Sweco AB (publ) (SWECB) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Sweco Q2 2024 Financial Report Webcast. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Marcela Sylvander, CCO. Please go ahead.

Hello, everyone, and welcome to this presentation of Sweco's Q2 report. Sweco's President and CEO, Åsa Bergman; and CFO, Olof Stålnacke are with us today to take us through the results of the second quarter. Åsa?

Then welcome, everyone, to Sweco's Q2 presentation. And before we present the second quarter of 2024. Let me give you a quick overview of Sweco. Sweco is Europe's leading architecture and engineering consultancy with operations in 8 geographical business areas across 15 markets in Europe. We are a well-diversified business operating across 3 different segments with a good balance of private and public clients. The foundation for Sweco's long-term success is our mix of competencies spread across 22,000 experts, our focus on organic and acquired growth as well as our efficient and decentralized operational model. With strong financial track record and financial position, we are focused on continuing our growth journey and build on Sweco's success. With this introduction, let's move over to the Q2 highlights. Q2 was another good quarter for Sweco. We continued the positive momentum from Q1 and delivered a quarter of solid growth and improved margins. Net sales increased by 11% and the organic growth amounted to 6%. EBITA improved by 12%, adjusted for the positive calendar effect in the quarter as a part of our efficiency measures, restructuring cost of SEK 58 million are also including it in the results. The positive development was mainly driven by higher average fees, higher billing ratio and a continued FTE growth. I am very pleased that the margin improvement increased to 9.8%. With this summary, let us dive into more details. As I mentioned, we continue to build on the momentum from the first quarter with a positive operational trend. 6 of 8 of our business areas reported organic growth and EBITA improvements in the quarter, and we continue to keep a good pace in recruitment. I would also like to highlight that 7 out of 8 business areas achieved margin improvements in the quarter. Over the past few quarters, we have put increased emphasis on our efficiency and billing ratio. And I'm pleased that we are now seeing a higher billing ratio in the second quarter. Let me give you an update on our work to improve our efficiency. Efficiency improvements are key to improve our margins. And over the past quarter, we have implemented a series of measures. This includes redundancies, mainly in the U.K., but also in Sweden and Finland. We have also initiated a group-wide organizational review to streamline the organization. We are now pleased to see that these measures are starting to have effect. Repositioning in the U.K. is progressing according to plan, and the business area reported a positive result in the quarter. We are also seeing an uplift in our profitability across most business areas and improvements in our billing ratio. This will remain the key priority going forward, but we are pleased to see that we are taking steps in the right direction. Looking then at the overall market situation, it is generally in line with previous quarters. The overall demand for Sweco services remained good, especially related to the green transition. In Water, Energy & Industry segment, we see continued strong demand related to the transition in the Energy and Industry segments and a strong demand in Water. We see a weak demand in traditional industry services. In the transport infrastructure segment, we see good demand supported by infrastructure investments and transition to more sustainable transportation. And in the Buildings and Urban Areas segments, we see stable demand in public buildings and a continued weak demand in residential and commercial real estate with variations across markets and subsegments. With that, I will hand over to Olof to walk you through the numbers. Please, Olof.

Thank you, Åsa. Starting again with a summary of the quarter. We see net sales of SEK 8.1 billion. 6% calendar adjusted organic growth, 3% from M&A and no significant FX effect. EBITA is SEK 794 million, excluding the significant positive calendar effect, which are SEK 68 million or 12% up and margin is at 9.8%. In the EBITA, we have also taken SEK 58 million in restructuring costs a bit more than we announced in Q2 where we talked about around SEK 45 million. Excluding these restructuring costs, the EBITA increase would have been 22%. Leverage is down significantly from last year at 1.1 after a strong cash flow quarter. Looking at net sales adjusted for calendar, again, 6% organic growth, and we see organic growth in 6 out of 8 BAs. Denmark and Germany and Central Europe continues to show very strong growth, and we see solid growth also in Sweden, Netherlands, Norway and Belgium. Finland and especially U.K. has negative growth. These are also our weakest markets and the markets where we have taken the most significant restructuring actions. The growth drivers, again, have been continued fee increases, also FTE growth. We maintain recruitment and personnel turnover has continued to decline in the quarter. In the quarter, we are also very pleased that billing ratio contributed positively to growth. And finally, one can add that there was no significant impact from absence in the quarter. Looking at EBITA, we see a 12% increase adjusted for calendar. And as said, excluding the restructuring costs, the EBITA growth would be about 30%. The positive calendar impact, we see margin improvement in all BAs except Belgium, who still delivered 12.9%. Denmark, Norway and Sweden also delivered double-digit margins. Finland is at 9%, Netherlands at 8%, and Germany and Central Europe delivered 6% in another solid quarter. Norway, again, has the biggest calendar effect. 40 more working hours, primarily due to Easter. U.K. remained marginally profitable despite taking additional restructuring costs in the quarter. If we then look at the EBITA bridge by business area. Overall, higher average fees continue to be a positive driver together with FTE growth. and now also billing ratio, while higher personnel expenses, including the restructuring costs had a negative impact. Looking at the BAs, 6 out of 8 delivered increased EBITA. Belgium is in line with last year. Denmark and Germany and Central Europe just as for the growth, once again delivered the largest EBITA improvements. Netherlands also had a strong quarter with Sweden and Finland improving despite taking significant restructuring costs in the quarter. We took SEK 35 million in Sweden and SEK 50 million in Finland. In the U.K., we have concluded our restructuring actions in the quarter, adding another 100 FTE reduction to the 100 FTE reduction we did in 2023. The calendar effect from 13 more working hours corresponded to a positive SEK 162 million in net sales and EBITA impact. Looking at financial position, net debt is significantly down versus Q2 last year after a strong cash flow quarter. The working capital release and also decreased M&A outflows. Leverage is at 1.1, also significantly down versus last year and well below our target. We remain financially strong with available liquid assets of SEK 3.3 billion. And as last quarter, we have a slide on the calendar effect. And with the end of Q2, we have now put the big calendar swings from Easter behind us. We have a significantly positive calendar in Q3, a high number of working hours in the quarter, but of course, it's also the holiday quarter, making it our smallest from a financial perspective. Positive calendar is also in July, meaning that it will probably have limited practical impact in the Nordics. So we may not get the full impact of the calendar effect. We have a small positive total for the year for the first time since 2020 and with our increased size, 1 hour now corresponds to approximately SEK 13 million. With that, back to you Åsa.

Today, I am happy to announce 2 new acquisitions. First one is a company called Frilling + Rolfs and this is the first new acquisition in Germany for some years, and this is a milestone for us in Germany. The acquisition adds 30 experts specialized in the growing market segment of water treatment, enabling us to capture more business opportunities. The second company is Valstar Simonis, and this is an acquisition in the Netherlands that will further strengthen Sweco's position in the field of technical installations for sustainability, comfort and safety in buildings. This acquisition is adding 60 experts to Sweco in the Netherlands. The projects won in the quarter reflect our broad and diverse expertise across several growth segments. Energy sector remains an interesting growth area. In the quarter, we won a project to support VoltH2 in the development of a green hydrogen plant in the Netherlands. Defense is another sector with growing demand. And here, we secured a 4-year contract with the Danish Ministry of Defense for support in construction and development of military properties. Need for more sustainable transportation is shown in 2 different types of projects 1 in Finland, where we will support the development of a tramway in the city of Turku and another project in the U.K. where we are transforming a major road into a corridor of walking, cycling and public transport. Let me now conclude by presenting our key priorities and focus areas going forward. We remain focused on capturing business opportunities by further strengthening our market position in Europe's green transition and by tapping into attractive growth segments such as health care, pharma and defense. We also focused on executing on our M&A agenda, announcing 2 new acquisitions today and are actively working with a broad pipeline. And we will continue to focus on our efficiency to improve our billing ratio and margin. This includes all the initiatives I have presented today and a strong efficiency focus across the organization. All in all, Sweco remains well positioned to continue our journey of profitable growth. We are committed to capture growth opportunities. Thank you.

Thank you, Åsa and Olof and now we will open up for questions. And as said before, it is possible for you to ask them directly through the phone line or through the chat function. So please, Melanie, if you could steer us.

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Dan Johansson from SEB.

I have 3 questions here. I'll take them one by one, if it's okay. Maybe first one, it's quite encouraging to see the billing ratio improving this quarter. Did you see most of the positive impact from the efficiency measures already now in Q2? Or is that sort of more of a boost ahead of you as well that you only saw a minor impact on these measures made?

I think you should see it. It will be a gradual impact. And obviously, all the actions we have taken has not happened at the start of the quarter, but gradually. So assume that the improvement will continue sort of all things equal.

Okay. Sounds good. And another question, more market-related perhaps. Yes, as you know, the weak demand for -- within residential and commercial real estate has been around now for many quarters. But in your more early cyclical exposure, I guess, such as parts of architecture, are you not starting to see more projects coming in now, perhaps starting now in H2, although from low levels, I guess? But -- or is it just still very, very dark out there in the real estate segment?

There is no change in the segments you referred to, it's still weak. And as I said in the previous quarter, we will start to report when we see effects in our orders received and in our order book related to those segments that you referred to. They are still weak.

Yes, fully understand. And maybe a final question. Interesting now to see the first acquisition in Germany for quite a long time. I guess we could see more of that coming in the coming years. But how do you assure that you're expanding in a controlled way this time? You don't run into similar challenges you previously had in Germany? It would be interesting to hear your take on that.

I mean, of course, you learn from whatever you experience and it's the same with us. So we work with a very strict DD process. We are working with a broad pipe of targets. So first of all, we are making sure that we focus on the right areas and the right competencies that we need to continue the growth in Germany in the right way. And then, of course, we're very selective in that process. So yes, and a very strict and firm DD process, I would say, be selective and have a good DD process.

And I think -- I mean, we're adding to that is, of course, that we are making the acquisition is a sign that we see that we have ways of working and processes in Germany that are now a sort of a stable foundation to add companies to.

Yes.

Our next question comes from the line of Fredrik Lithell from Handelsbanken.

Congratulations to a nice and strong report. I have 2 questions for you, and it's really on your weak spots in U.K. and Finland. So I would like to hear you elaborate a little bit on the U.K. Is that a good enough platform do you think for bolt-on acquisitions? Or do you need to sort of restart the U.K. given where you are and what you're working with right now? And in terms of Finland, it has been a weak market situation in general in Finland is our assessment anyhow. It would be interesting to hear from you if you see this is mostly a market situation or is it something in your organization that is troubling you as well would be interesting.

If I start with the U.K. market, if we refer back a bit to the Q1 report, especially the public market has been challenging for some time. So when we're talking about positioning the U.K. market it is really to focus where we see more stable growth. So with that focus and the measures and redundancies taken, we foresee a more stable performance going forward. But -- so what you see in the quarter is that we see a gradual process related to the activities that we have taken. And we are optimistic about the business opportunities in the U.K. market going forward. When it comes to Finland, I have to say, it's mainly and have been mainly a market situation, if you refer to the weak performance going back in Finland. We see that with the measures taken and the redundancies that we have taken in Finland, both in Q1 and Q2 that we are in -- we are well positioned in the Finnish market. And then, of course, related to the efficiency measures that we talk about that, of course, covers Finland as well. So we work both with the market and with internal measures to become even more competitive on the Finnish market.

Very good answers. Just a follow-up on Finland there. I mean as you say, it has been a weak market broad-based, more or less. And there are other players there as well that also have suffered and are struggling a little bit evenly. Do you feel that you have the same pricing environment in Finland? Or is it so that, that is also a weak spot in terms of pricing?

I would say -- and Fredrik, I would say that Finland had same -- have had roughly the same price increases in other countries. So we have sort of not -- as we said before, not sacrificed pricing for volume in that market either so.

And maybe that is good to comment on that we are and Finland is also very good at this to select the right projects and also to be able to utilize what we have to be efficient when it comes to the pricing as well.

Our next question comes from the line of Johan Lönnqvist Sundén from Carnegie.

First one is on the order book situation. You didn't give any comments that I have found in the report on the order book situation. Is it possible to quantify or put any direction of how the order book has developed quarter-on-quarter?

The order book has continued to grow in absolute terms. It is slightly down in relation to LTM net sales growth, but we don't see any break in the trend it is growing in absolute terms, as said, then we will still have a good order inflow. No sort of directional change on that one.