Syndax Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (SNDX) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

January 19, 2023

NASDAQ US Health Care Biotechnology conference_presentation 31 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Kalpit Patel

analyst
#1

All right. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for tuning in to our first fireside chat of the day at the B. Riley Oncology Conference Day 2. I'm Kalpit Patel, part of the biotech team here at B. Riley. I'm pleased to introduce our first fireside chat with Syndax Pharmaceuticals. We have the CEO, Michael Metzger; Anjali Ganguli, CBO; CFO, Keith Goldan, joining us from Syndax. If you have any questions for the team, please feel free to e-mail me at kpatel@brileyfin.com. With that, I'll pass the mic on to Michael. For those who are new to the story, Michael will give a quick overview, and we'll dive right into the questions then.

Michael Metzger

executive
#2

Great. Well, thank you, Kalpit, and thanks to the B. Riley team for inviting us today, and really appreciate the coverage and the opportunity to answer questions that anyone may have about Syndax. So let me just maybe start off by saying or positioning us as really in a unique way as a company. I think many of you know, both of our pipeline agents are in ongoing pivotal trials with data and potential regulatory filings in 2023. Both assets are poised to be first to market and potentially best-in-class targeted medicines within the hematology space, addressing what we believe to be multibillion-dollar market opportunities. Longer term, we're really excited that both programs offer the potential for very broad franchise opportunities beyond their initial registration indications. And recently, we did a financing in December of last year. We closed a financing, $172.5 million, which brings us to roughly $500 million on a pro forma basis. We'll be able to deliver based on that cash balance, be able to deliver significant clinical and regulatory milestones this year and potentially launch both of these products down the line as well as execute on selected business development transactions, which, as you know, feeds our early pipeline. So this is, I think, shaping up to be a really, really important year for the company, an exciting year for the company of growth with several key milestones, of course, which we'll talk about. And we'll talk about our 2 individual programs, which really address major unmet medical need within the hematology space. So excited to dive right into it. So thank you.

Kalpit Patel

analyst
#3

Thanks, Michael. And a lot of the conversation lately has been focused on revumenib, right? It's been an important -- you've had an important update recently. But I want to maybe do this differently and start with your second asset first, axatilimab for chronic graft-versus-host disease. You have a pivotal trial that's ongoing. Talk to us about the data that you've seen in chronic graft-versus-host disease. You've had an 82% response rate at month 6 and a 50% response rate -- sorry, 50% response rate at month 6 and 82% by month 6. So how competitive is this profile in your view and in the landscape of cGVHD agents?

Michael Metzger

executive
#4

Yes. Thanks, Kalpit. So I think this is -- just to start off, I think it's a very competitive profile, and it's an emerging commercial space and opportunity for new medicines to treat chronic graft versus host disease. The data that you quoted was from our Phase II portion of the trial that we presented at, not this past year's ASH, but the ASH before. It was recently published in Journal of Clinical Oncology. This is data that was in 23 patients, 1 milligram per kilogram of axatilimab given every 2 weeks. And that's one of the doses that we're testing in our pivotal trial. And as you laid out, 82% of the patients responded to treatment within the first 6 months and 50% were in response at cycle 7, day 1. So yes, this is -- I think based on the approved agents, recently approved agents, this is what we believe to be a very competitive profile. And if you look at Jakafi and belumosudil, they had data in the 70% response range -- 70% to 80% response rate in the first 6 months and 50% for Jakafi at cycle 7, day 1. So again, very similar. Importantly, this is data that we accumulated in our trial after 3 prior treatments. So these are very heavily pretreated patients in the relapsed/refractory setting, perhaps another line later than some of these other agents that were approved. And I just quoted some of their data. So we are seeing excellent cross-organ responses in chronic graft-versus-host disease. And what I mean by that is it's a multi-organ manifestation of disease, and what physicians are looking for is having responses in areas such as lung and skin, and then you get them in multiple organs. And so those are 2 of the more difficult-to-treat organs, and we've seen really very good responses in those areas. And I'll also note that we've shown in our early trials that we've been able to reduce the use of steroids for these patients, which, of course, physicians are keen to do based on the long-term effects of steroid treatment. So all in all, I think a very competitive profile to what agents have been recently approved, but we're certainly going to test that further in our pivotal trial.

Kalpit Patel

analyst
#5

Okay. And what about the durability in the Phase II? Can you comment on the median duration of response in a 1-year -- maybe a 1-year response, if you have that data?

Michael Metzger

executive
#6

Yes. So you may not know, but the median duration of response in the Phase II was not reached. So that's an ongoing question, right? But the majority of patients in that trial have been offered greater than 6 months. And there were, I think, 6 patients out of the 23 that were on over 1 year. So I think the overall durability will be, again, tested in the pivotal trials, but I think it's a very good sign that patients are not only tolerating treatment and getting responses but staying on for a very good amount of time.

Kalpit Patel

analyst
#7

Okay. And if I recall correctly, the baseline demographic [ PAD ] patients who received other newer drugs like Kadmon's drug, ibrutinib or even ruxolitinib, do we have response data in patients who had prior exposure to these agents?

Michael Metzger

executive
#8

Yes. I think we have seen that in our trial. I think it's relatively small numbers of patients who have been through these other treatments. But I think -- and again, the overall Phase I, Phase II was a small number of patients. But I would emphasize that we have seen patients come on our trial who have first received Jakafi and/or belumosudil and have done well. And I think that's due to the fact that -- and this will bear out in the pivotal trial due to the fact that this is a different mechanism of action. So this is directed at the monocyte-macrophage lineage. The other treatments are more B-cell, T-cell directed. And so the fact that patients respond to a different mechanism of action is not a big surprise to us. Certainly, we'll see more patients in the pivotal trials that have gone on these other agents and then come on our trial.

Kalpit Patel

analyst
#9

Okay. And maybe some color on the side effects that we have seen in the Phase II. I'm noting lower rates of ASP, ALT increases, significantly lower rates of CPK increases and lower lipase increases in the Phase II versus the Phase I. I guess is that just a function of patients in the Phase I maybe receiving higher doses when you're dose escalating and you didn't see that as you sort of moved on into the Phase II?

Michael Metzger

executive
#10

Yes. Maybe I'll ask Anjali to address that, please.

Anjali Ganguli

executive
#11

Yes. Thanks, Michael. And yes, Kalpit, thanks for the question. I think it's actually kind of hard to say because most of those higher increases did come from the increased dosing, which was in a very small number of patients. So we've included both the 1 mg per kg every 2 weeks and the 3 mg per kg dose every 4 weeks in our pivotal trial to really test the hypothesis to see if there really is a difference in the therapeutic index between those doses. A lot of those, if not all of the AEs that you cited, are on target AEs for inhibiting the CSF-1R pathway. Basically, as Michael mentioned, you're shutting down the macrophage. And in the liver specifically, the Kupffer cells are the macrophage population that clear a lot of those enzymes. And so you're basically just inhibiting clearance. It's not actually a signal that there's liver damage or toxicity building up in the liver. And what we see based on our dosing schedule is there is a period of time before the next dose where the macrophages recover and clear those enzymes. And so just naturally, those levels go back to normal before the next dose. So there's no accumulation of this effect either. So we'll see in a larger population and longer treatment how that really plays out and if there's a true difference between those doses.

Kalpit Patel

analyst
#12

Okay. Okay. That's helpful. And the discontinuation rate related to adverse events was, I believe, between 8% and 9%. Based on the design of the Phase III, would you expect similar discontinuation rate? And how does that maybe fare relative to approved agents in this setting at the same follow time -- median follow-up time?

Michael Metzger

executive
#13

Yes. Anjali, do you want to take that one as well?

Anjali Ganguli

executive
#14

Yes, sure. I think, Kalpit, in this pretty heavily pretreated population, I think an 8% or 9% discontinuation rate is very acceptable. The Phase III is actually designed very similar to the Phase II expansion. And so it could be that we get a few patients that are earlier lines and maybe more fit, if you will, to tolerate any type of therapy. But overall, we've seen a very tolerable profile with axatilimab. And as Michael said, we've had many patients -- a good portion of patients stay on for over a year, even some over 2 years. And so we're not too worried about toxicity. I think the bigger question is what will the patients respond to, how severe is their disease, and that is usually what is leading to discontinuation.

Kalpit Patel

analyst
#15

Okay. And one item that I've heard from investors is that despite showing promising efficacy in chronic graft-versus-host disease, they're sort of wondering how the non-oral formulation sort of weighs in here, right? I mean I think Kadmon's drug was an oral drug, and the feasibility of something oral is much easier than an IV administered drug. So is that really a hurdle based on the disease management and how often patients are seen at the doctor's office and perhaps for product life management purposes?

Michael Metzger

executive
#16

Yes, Kalpit. I think we don't see it as a barrier. In fact, our research seems to suggest that physicians like to see their patients in this setting pretty regularly. These are, I would say, pretty sick patients and high-touch patients. And so the idea here is that while this is an IV regimen, all these patients will cycle through treatments, right? They have limited options. And so it's a very severe disease. And so the physicians are looking for tolerability. And they're also looking, first and foremost, for efficacy. And I think as long as our agent can deliver on those 2 pillars, I think we're going to be in a very competitive position. And I think the fact that they're going to see their patients relatively often -- and as you know, we're testing every 2 weeks -- every 4-week dose in the Phase III, which may be a little bit more convenient over the long term. But we haven't received any pushback from physicians that this is not a convenient regimen for patients to take. And in fact, as you know, they're staying on, in some cases, for a long time. So that's -- I think that pattern bodes well for the future of this drug. And also, I would say that life cycle is something that we think about with our partner relative to things like subcu and other regimens. So I think that's something that's on the table for the future. We haven't talked much about our plans for that, but there's certainly, I'd say, the open possibility that that's something we pursue in the future as well.

Kalpit Patel

analyst
#17

Okay. Sounds good. Let's maybe switch gears to revumenib. This is a Menin inhibitor that's being advanced for advanced leukemias. You've shown an impressive 27% CR/CRh rate at the RP2D in both KMT2A rearranged patients as well as NPM1 mutated patients. Talk to us about the patient groups that were treated in this trial as well as the efficacy expectations with salvage treatment in this setting for both ALL and AML patients?

Michael Metzger

executive
#18

Yes. So -- good question. So let me talk a little bit about the population first. So this is a heavily pretreated population, median 4 lines of -- prior lines of therapy. In the trial, 46% of the patients had at least one prior stem cell transplant, 60% had prior venetoclax. And I'd say a significant percentage of patients had co-mutation. So these are complicated patients and very late-line patients. The alternative for these patients versus getting a therapy that addresses their mutations such as revumenib really is hospice, right? I mean they're not able to tolerate any additional treatments. They have exhausted chemotherapy. They've exhausted targeted therapy. So they're really at the unfortunate end of their patient journey. The results we showed here, median overall survival is something that stands out to us of 7 months. We know third line or later -- third-line patients in this setting overall survival is less than 3 months. So again, this is an early trial, but very promising result on survival. At the recommended Phase II dose, the CR/CRh rate was the same in both MLLr and NPM1 subsets, which I think you quoted is 27%. We thought there was a pretty impressive median duration of response of 9.1 months at the data cutoff. And the median time to response is important. So patients don't have, with this disease, a lot of time to wait for a response. And the time to response median was 1.9 months, so very quickly. And I think the important thing to again remind ourselves here is that these are patients that have gone through 4 prior lines. So they're essentially fifth-line patients. And what that, I think, speaks to in particular is with good results like this, how would you do in earlier-line settings. And certainly, in combination, you'll do that in combination in earlier line setting. So establishing ourselves with single-agent activity -- strong single-agent activity for NPM1 as well as KMT2A is, I think, a really good start to not only get the drug approved but essentially see potential utilization in earlier line settings, which we'll do more work on.

Kalpit Patel

analyst
#19

Okay. And do we have a sense of how many ALL patients were enrolled in the early-stage study for revumenib? It's one of the more common questions that I received. Is it just a handful of patients in line with the epidemiology of the disease? Or is it more than a handful of patients?

Michael Metzger

executive
#20

Yes. I think we -- in the trial or the data we showed at ASH this year, 11 patients in the Phase I were ALL patients. So it's a small number relative to the 60, but it's certainly, I think -- we think, representative of the patient data that we've seen -- that we'll see going forward. I would also point out that we did get breakthrough therapy designation at the end of last year, which was important for the program that covers relapsed/refractory KMT2A disease, whether it's AML or ALL, adults or pediatric patients. So I think FDA -- and maybe this is one of your other questions. But FDA, I think, has in our case, looked at the data across populations and sees it as potentially one disease, which will have an impact potentially on our filing that we do later this year. So this is an interesting development for us, but we see ALL as well as AML as being an important part of our overall strategy for getting this drug to patients.

Kalpit Patel

analyst
#21

Got it. And MRD-negative responses are obviously very important to the outcome for these patients. What jumps out to you regarding the MRD-negative response rate and then the subsequent stem cell transplant rate? If you can comment, do you view this profile of your drug as a differentiating factor than the other Menin inhibitor that's out there?

Michael Metzger

executive
#22

Well, we do. And I think it's, again, more data for our drug as well as other competitors we'll have to -- we'll see how that goes. But so far, based on the data that we've seen thus far with our drug and our competitor's drug, I think the MRD rate is very good. Of the responders, 78% were MRD negative. This is, I think, amongst the highest or if not the highest that some of our physicians have seen relative to targeted agents. So that's an excellent result. And the important -- it's an important predictor of what patients -- if they have an MRD-negative response, the physicians are more apt to bring them to transplant, which is important for their potential outcomes. So I think this is really, really important. And I'd also point out that the NPM1 patients that responded were all MRD-negative CR. So that sort of further suggests not only that we're seeing MRD negativity across KMT2A patients but also in NPM1 patients. And again, all of these patients -- some of these patients, whether they're KMT2A or NPM1 have gone on to transplant and done really well on the therapy. So I think MRD really sets the stage for that patient continuum and I think potentially differentiates us from some of the other therapies that are being developed.

Kalpit Patel

analyst
#23

Okay. And maybe, Michael, one could argue that revumenib has more QTc prolongation while ziftomenib has more differentiation syndrome. And we think -- when we think about the practical utility of these drugs, is one adverse event more limiting than the other in terms of keeping a patient on therapy for a sufficient amount of time? Or do you think we don't have sufficient data at this point to make that sort of a conclusion?

Michael Metzger

executive
#24

Well, no, I think side effect of both drugs, obviously, will bear out in later-stage trials. I think we've been very encouraged with the bolus of data that we've seen. And relative to QTc, I think we tracked Grade 3 QT at 10% or less in our trial. I think what's beneficial relative to QTc is our drug has a reasonably short half-life and doesn't accumulate. And so we're able to identify QT prolongation early on in treatment because these patients are monitored for it. And if they do reach a Grade 3, we dose-reduce them. They don't stop taking the drug. By the next dose, they generally resolve their QT and go on to -- many go on to have complete responses, if not have stem cell transplant as well. So really, I think this is a very manageable lab abnormality. Patients don't know that they're having it. Physicians aren't concerned about it. We've done a lot of work to try to understand if this is something that concerns them. I think they generally have a lot of experience with AML and ALL therapies that do prolong the QT. So I think this is among side effect -- possible side effects, this is a very manageable and minor one. There's been no downstream clinical manifestations such as arrhythmias or sequela of any sort. And so I think this is something to monitor but not potentially to really worry about, and we have it very well in hand, and physicians seem to be comfortable. So relative to our competitor and some of the other competitors out there that have things like, as you mentioned, differentiation syndrome of a very severe variety, I think there's concern with that because essentially, it could be life-threatening, and that has been the case for some of our competitors. So we don't seem to have that in terms of severity. I think there's been differentiation syndrome in our Phase I trial, which we reported. I think it's a Grade 2 or less in 16% of the patients. We monitor for it. We take the necessary precautions and instruct our physicians to do so in managing this. You do see it as -- this is a differentiation agent. All Menin inhibitors targeted therapies are in general. And so I think the idea that it's going to occur is real. The severity of it feels quite different, and it has probably something to do with the properties of the drug -- of our drug versus some of our competitors. So I do think that's a different part of the profile that will bear out over time. But thus far, based on what we've seen at ASH and what we've reported in our trial, I feel like the drugs are actually performing differently.

Kalpit Patel

analyst
#25

Okay. Got it. And you have a pivotal study going on right now for revumenib. I guess are there any key differences that you want to highlight quickly between the Phase II and the Phase III?

Michael Metzger

executive
#26

Yes. The protocols are very similar. I would say that the one thing that I think is really very promising -- and we saw some patients go back on trial -- go back on drug in the compassionate use setting. We reported on this at ASH. This is following stem cell transplant and engraftment, physicians putting their patients back on therapy and maintaining them in a complete response for as long as possible. That's a paradigm that's emerging, and our patients are able to do that in the Phase II trial. They were not able to do that in the Phase I trial based on protocol. And so I think that's a very interesting dynamic and could really change how patients are treated in this setting, potentially setting up for earlier-line treatment maintenance and so forth in the, call it, frontline maintenance-type setting. But this is relapsed/refractory and, of course, is not possible with a lot of other targeted therapies.

Kalpit Patel

analyst
#27

Got it. And I think you've noted before that the FDA has maybe giving you some guidance on the CR/CRh requirement for the pivotal cohorts. I guess has the FDA also given you guidance on the median duration of response for the CR/CRh? Or is that not part of consideration of the package?

Michael Metzger

executive
#28

Yes. So I would say there are regulatory endpoints such as CR/CRh and durability. They generally -- we've had extensive discussion. We've agreed on our protocols with FDA related to our trials and what they're -- what the statistics are for those trials. We haven't disclosed kind of what those -- what the lower bound or the target point estimate is for those trials. But suffice to say, I think we've had good alignment there. And durability is generally what they want to see. And again, this is just based on historical. When we looked across precedent drugs that have been approved, historically, they're looking for 4 to 6 months duration of response. And I would say also, based on precedent for efficacy, they're looking for roughly 20% more CR/CRh. Again, that's not a hard and fast rule, but it's something you can look at other drugs and say those are the drugs that were approved, and that's what they achieved. In terms of the clinical endpoints and the profile, I think physicians have a sort of a broader view of what's important. Not only are they interested in CR/CRh and duration of response, but they're particularly excited. And as I pointed out earlier, the MRD negativity is really key to their treatment of patients and getting them to transplant and, again, the full clinical profile beyond just having duration of response to CR/CRh. They want to understand how patients are tolerating the treatment, how they're doing in terms of MRD, can I get them to transplant. All of these things are really, really critical to how the patients do on the therapy.

Kalpit Patel

analyst
#29

Okay. And can you remind us if you're planning on packaging these individual cohorts into one regulatory filing? Or is it sort of going to be on a rolling basis individually?

Michael Metzger

executive
#30

Yes. So it's a great question. I think we'll have more to say as the quarter rolls on here. And it's a little bit to have some flexibility. And what I mean by that is the FDA granted us BTD, as I mentioned earlier. That allows us to potentially put 2 of the cohorts together. That's KMT2A AML and ALL. We'll have to see how the enrollment comes together, and we're having more discussion with the agency this quarter. But we'll potentially have the option to put 2 of them together, and then there's NPM1 as well. So we haven't said which one is first, second or third. But right now, we're guiding -- our guidance is still the same. It's 1 of the 3 before the end of the first quarter or by the end of the first quarter, data in the third quarter and then a potential filing before the end of the year. So guidance remains the same.

Kalpit Patel

analyst
#31

And maybe 2 last questions, if I can squeeze them in. Michael, what could a label potentially look like assuming that the data are positive? And then, Keith, you've had an equity offering recently. Have you given us an updated cash runway? And we'll call it.

Michael Metzger

executive
#32

Yes. So maybe I'll just take the first one, and Keith, you can just follow up. So look, I think there -- we probably envision 2 indications from the AUGMENT-101 trial. I think one of those indications is treatment of relapsed/refractory KMT2A, acute leukemia. This is sort of regardless of age or phenotype. That's one. I mean there is some flexibility in there, but that's -- based on our BTD, I think that would be one potential label and the other being treatment of relapsed/refractory NPM1 AML. So again, further discussion warranted and data to be generated, but those are certainly forward-looking ideas. And I think one other thing to note there is that we've treated patients that are first line to 12th line. So there's a wide range. So we don't expect there to be a limitation for how many prior treatment lines will be required before starting revumenib. So I think that's a really important thing. I think we anchor on the fact that we've -- in the Phase I, we treated fifth line -- what amounts to fifth line patients. But I think ultimately, when we get labeled, hopefully, we'll have the ability to treat patients potentially even after 1 or 2 lines. So I think moving much earlier in the treatment paradigm could do even more -- or have more of an impact for these patients.

Keith Goldan

executive
#33

And on cash runway, Michael mentioned earlier, Kalpit, that post offering, we had $500 million pro forma as of 30 September. And the new guidance is that, that gives us cash runway into the second half of 2025, which is potentially a year post launch, allows us to create a ton of value for patients, physicians and really our shareholders with a number of clinical, regulatory and commercial milestones that Michael has reviewed.

Kalpit Patel

analyst
#34

Okay. Great. Fantastic. Michael and Keith, thank you very much for joining us today. Fantastic updates on your end, and I look forward to additional ones throughout the year. Thank you very much.

Michael Metzger

executive
#35

Great. Kalpit, thank you so much. Good to meet with you. Talk soon.

Kalpit Patel

analyst
#36

Thank you.

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