Sysco Corporation (SYY) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
September 6, 2023
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Jeffrey Bernstein
analystGood morning, everyone. My name is Jeff Bernstein, and I'm the Restaurant and Foodservice Distribution Analyst at Barclays. I'm thrilled to introduce our next presenting company, Sysco Corporation. With us this morning, we have on your far left -- Kevin Hourican on your far left, President and CEO; Kenny Cheung, recently named CFO; Neil Russell, CAO; and Kevin Kim in the front row, Head of Investor Relations. And while we are thrilled to have Sysco at our Consumer Staples Conference, our primary conference is our consumer discretionary event, our Eat, Sleep Play Conference, which includes our restaurants and food service distributors as well, along with gaming, lodging and leisure, in our offices in New York the week post Thanksgiving this year, November 28 and 29. Hope to see many of you there. But now specific to Sysco here, by way of background, for those who not familiar, Sysco is the global leader in selling, marketing and distributing food products to restaurants and others. Globally, Sysco services over 725,000 customer locations over 330 distribution facilities most recently generating last year's $76 billion in sales. But to share more detail, I will turn it over to Kevin and the team to walk through several big picture slides, and then I will lead some Q&A. With that said, I'll turn it over to President and CEO, Kevin Hourican.
Kevin Hourican
executiveThank you, Jeff. I appreciate Jeff and the Barclays team for the invitation to this year's conference, and we appreciate everyone in the room and who has joined us on the webcast as well for coming into listening a little bit about the Sysco's story. I will be brief, will be clear, and then we'll turn it over to Jeff for Q&A. Let's jump in this. As Jeff said a moment ago, we are a leader in the Foodservice distribution industry, and we're the only player at scale from a global perspective. We call ourselves the backbone of the food away from home industry, serving all sectors of food away from home, restaurants big and small, health care to travel and industry, to business and industry, travel and hospitality and then to say, recreation in government business and everything in between. If it's consumed outside of the home, we Sysco are the largest player in that space. As Jeff said, we did $76.3 billion of top line sales last year and just a little bit more about who we are on the right from a segmentation and customer breakout perspective. We felt the map would be an illustrative representation of our company and who we are as well. So I want to be very clear about this map. The green countries or the countries that are in green are where we have physical domiciled locations with warehouses, delivery partners that are Sysco employees and we're doing what we call last-mile delivery. Our largest business by far is in the U.S., our second largest business across the border to the north in Canada. We also have a meaningful presence in Europe. In Europe, the countries are a little bit smaller. So I'll call them out. We are in Ireland. We are in Great Britain. We are in France. We are in Sweden. Those are the countries and we also have a burgeoning business in Latin America. A little more on the newer side of our growth curve in bionic, if you will, from a business growth perspective, we are in Mexico, Costa Rica, Panama, the Bahamas, and we have an export business called IFG, which is based out of Florida. And it's with that, that I'll pivot to the countries that are in that light blue color. So that light blue color is where we distribute food through our freight forwarding IFG business, and we hand off the last-mile delivery to a company like Sysco in those countries. How that business comes to me is one of two ways. One, we can put people on the ground, boots on the street to do sales in those countries. The other is one of our current customers like Cheesecake Factory opens a new store in MiddleEast, and they want Sysco to be able to get their proprietary products because we handle all of their goods to that country and then we hand it off to another third-party entity that does the final mile delivery. What's interesting about IFG, and my last and final comment here is it's also what we call the Business Scout that can help us determine what types of countries we might be interested in planting our flag in the future. And I point to Costa Rica as an example in that regard. We were exporting food to Costa Rica to a third-party partner. We then did a little bit of a JV with that partner. We ended up buying the company and now we operate as full fledged Sysco in Costa Rica, and we run that business very profitably. We are #1 in the majority of the companies that we are in -- countries that we are in. And we're not #1, we're #2 from a market share perspective with clear intent on giving each of those businesses to #1. So we are the largest at scale in what we say are the following words, scale matters meaningfully in this industry. It matters from a purchasing scale perspective to get to the best possible landed cost, and then it's important for distribution economics. As Jeff said, we have more than 300 distribution centers. And because of that, we are closer to the customer than most that we compete against which means fewer miles driven from the highest cost component of the supply chain, which is the final mile delivery. We also have the largest sales force in the industry more than 7,500 strong. And these are culinary experts and culinary pros, they are culinary school grads, they're ex restaurant owners themselves, they were former chefs, they are experts in food, and they sell the broad range capabilities of what Sysco has to our customers. They're not [indiscernible] orders. These are professionals. Our job is to help that end restaurant customer, mostly mom-and-pops more successfully run their business because when they succeed, we succeed because they are ordering more from Sysco. So let's talk a little bit more about the industry. We love this industry. We love it for the following two primary reasons. It's big and it's growing. It's a $353 billion industry. And as you can see with the exception of the COVID disruption year, it's consistently growing. One of our favorite charts that we like to show is an x grid where a show is food away from home as a percentage of total purchases going up to the right which will be purchased at the grocery store is going down to the right -- those two lines crossed before COVID. We had a temporary dislocation, and we are back in better than ever. There is more food being consumed outside of the home from a dollars spent perspective than is being spent at the grocery store, and that is a long-term secular trend. People and consumers were time starved. They're becoming more and more time starved over time. And because of that, they're choosing to consume food away from the home more often than not. Point 2 is that despite our being the biggest at 17% of the total market from a market share perspective, we, Sysco, are growing our share of wallet, and we are growing our market share. So we have a growing pie, and we are taking a bigger slice of that growing pie consistently over time. We are the largest and most profitable from an EBIT margin rate perspective, and we have become a growth company because we are consistently growing faster than the industry. And now there is a slide right here, which we call the recipe for growth. Previously, we've showed it as a growth we are ready to these 5 things works in concert -- with one another to create a reason why customers will choose Sysco. Today, we're showing it through this more recipe format and they accomplish the same objective. Here are the 5 things that we are doing at Sysco to increase share of wallet to better serve our customers, to make them choose Sysco of the other options they have in the market. It starts with improved digital tools. We need to have the best ordering platforms in the industry, the easiest to use website in the palm of their hand on the customer's phone. That ordering platform needs to prompt them for things that would be logical to be placed in their ordering basket. And it suggest an order from them because we can predict the needs of that restaurant. We need to make it as easy as possible for that restaurant owner to be able to focus on what matters most to them, which is the quality of the food presentation for their customers. They don't want to have to worry about what time the truck is going to show up or how to place that order. We want to make it simple, clear, easy and personalized. So we've made a personalized website and digital ordering platform that's unique to each and every single one of the customers we serve. The pricing is unique to them. The assortment that they see on their website is unique to them and the assortment is curated in the way -- curated in a way that's relevant to their assortment. Italian restaurant, Asian restaurant and everything in between. Number two is we have great products at a great price. We have the broadest assortment in the industry. We call broadline assortment, which is everything that a general broadline distributor would carry like dry goods and frozen goods and everything in between, but we also have the largest fresh assortment in the industry. We buy more fresh produce locally than anyone in food service. We also have a specialty meat cutting operation where we can do custom cut of fine steaks like [indiscernible]. We do all of their custom cut steaks and deliver JIT exactly the cut that they need, [indiscernible] on hand that they need at the flavor profile that they need. That is Sysco. We do those things. Complete for broadline inventory assortment, deep expertise and produce, deep expertise in the center plate. And recently, we've added Italian specialty to that platform, and we will do more good work in Asian over time. When you have the strongest and most flexible supply chain in the industry. For decades, we have the most efficient from a cost to serve supply chain, and our supply chain is becoming more agile, more nimble and more customer-centric. Specifically, what that means, what are the needs of our end customers. They want a late evening order cutoff as late as possible. What is obvious. They don't know what tonight dinner rush would be. They don't know what exactly we'll sell off the menu tonight. So the later we can make that order cut off and deliver tomorrow morning. So they're back in stock for the next nights menu. That is what our customers need, that's what they want, and we are doing more of that work than anyone in the industry. Important of all, we need to be there when we say we're going to be there. We need to show up on time, we did deliver in full, and we need to meet those needs. Expertise in service I already spoke about. We have the largest sales force in the industry. They are culinary professionals where we are getting even better as a company is the following. We have what's called a sales consultant to generalist who's an account owner with the relationship manager of that individual restaurant. And to be clear about that, this is a relationships based business. We're in that restaurant every week with that sales consultant, where we are getting even better is leveraging produce specialists, protein specialists, and as I've laid Italian specialists because of individual sales consultant can't be an expert in every category, and we are pulling in that we can further penetrate sales with those customers. And last but not least, what always leading the industry means we will continue to invest which includes M&A, and we are very interested in what we call tuck-in acquisitions that can add capabilities in specialty skill sets to Sysco that either don't exist or white spaces on a geographic map where we don't, for instance, have a produce company. We will be filling in those white spaces. To my last slide is the following. Today, we are here to say the following. We just provided guidance back in the middle part of August for our fiscal '24. We're essentially 2 months into that year, and we are reiterating our guidance for fiscal '24. We're off to a good start, and we have confidence in our ability to deliver this plan and to deliver this budget. The constructs of that budget are the following: $80 billion approximately in total top line sales, which is mid-single digits top line growth. In adjusted EPS from a bottom line perspective of $4.20 to $4.40, which is a 5% to 10% growth from the low end to the high end of that range. We communicated back on our earnings call that some key components environmentally will be true in fiscal '24. A bit lower overall market volume growth versus '23. [ 0.2 ] is on inflation/deflation. We are currently experiencing deflation in the core U.S. market, and we expect that to reverse at roughly the midyear point. While we are currently still experiencing inflation in our international business, mostly driven by Europe because of unique environmental conditions in Europe. So a bit lower market volume growth, a bit lower than what is normal inflation for this industry, what would be almost in the 2% to 3% range, and we expect it to be lower than that this year in total. But we will manage our expenses extremely efficiently taking on meaningful cost across the company and we throw all that recipe together, it will deliver the top line growth that I just mentioned to $80 billion in total. And deliver the bottom line growth of the $4.20 to $4.40 EPS guide for the year. Off to a good start. We're confident in our ability to hit this plan. And with that, I welcome, Kenny, up to the stage. Kenny, over to you.
Kenny Cheung
executiveThank you, Kevin, and good morning, everyone. It is great to be here in Boston with you all. Before I start, I would like to thank our customers, our colleagues around the world, our partners and our shareholders. Thank you for all you do, and thank you for the commitment to Sysco. Now, you just heard Kevin talk about a few things. Number one is reiterating and reconfirming our guidance for the annual fiscal year '24. We're off to a great start. Number two, our strategy, recipe for growth is yielding dividends and to adding accretive value for enterprise. And point number three, we are the market leader. We are the market leader in a growing industry, and that comes with attachment rates of leading industry profitable margins. Looking out the future, our company, Sysco has the building blocks, has the fundamentals, has the ingredients to take our company to the next level. These ingredients pun intended are fivefold. Number one, strong, robust balance sheet; number two, ample liquidity and free cash flow; number three, market leader position. Number four, world-class talent in which we have. And last but not least, the Sysco brand, iconic and well established. We are positioned for growth, and we are positioned to win. Now speaking of growth, let's take a look at the first page here. You can see across 3 buckets: Sales, EBITDA and EPS. On sales, we grew in fiscal year '23 to $76 billion. That is a 22% CAGR across 3 years. For EBITDA, we grew to $3.8 billion. That is a 31% CAGR across 3 years. And last but not least, all the way down to the bottom line, EPS last year came in at $4.01. It is an astounding big 67% CAGR increase over 3 years. Fiscal year '23 demonstrated positive volume increases, which led to double-digit sales growth. Coupled with operating leverage, which I'll talk about in a little bit, those 2 formulas yielded strong double-digit growth. Our EBITDA earnings actually grew 2x faster in fiscal year '23 than our sales. That is real-time leverage. Our top line grew 11%, EPS grew 23%. Mind you, these 3 CAGR growth rates are above market industry averages. They are above. Altogether, with the actions I just described, these rendered a record year for us in fiscal year '23. Turning to the next slide. You can see positive operating leverage. This is a focus area for our business. This is all about driving margin dollar expansion and margin rate expansion. Both dollars and rates. You can see from the left-hand side to the right-hand side, we started out the year a bit slower out of the gate as our volume was much slower than expense growth, meaning we had two headwinds in our business. We had snapback cost as well as excess over time. That really burdened the leverage in the first half of the year. As you can see, we made our way towards the back half of the year and the snapback costs as well as the excess overtime subsided down to 0 by the end of the fiscal year. The good news is these 2 cost pressure are no longer in the system. And that, coupled with our focus on supply chain efficiencies, productivity, resource optimization, rendered a very strong operating leverage towards Q4. That trend, we expect a positive operating leverage to continue into fiscal year '24, and why are we confident, well for starters, last year, at the end of the year, we did target $100 million and structural cost takeout. And by the way, the good news is all of the $100 million has an action. So said differently, we will realize $100 million on the P&L from a year-over-year savings standpoint. The only thing I want to caution is we are not done. We're not done. We're going to watch the market carefully. We're going to watch the dynamic backdrop very deliberately and deploy actions, if needed, to allow us to further drive operating leverage and deliver on the full year. Let's move to the balance sheet and cash flow, which I mentioned is a key ingredient for our company in terms of strength. If you look at our top line and bottom line growth for last year, they were a record. Now if you double click, our cash flow was also a record year for us. Taking a look at the $2.9 billion of operating cash flow, $2.1 billion of free cash flow. This really talks to you about the quality of earnings of our business. If you further double-click those two numbers, the conversion rate of operating cash flow in our business was about 75% and our free cash flow conversion rate from EBITDA was roughly 55%. Again, it talks about the robust earnings power of Sysco. Additionally, if you look on the right-hand side, or yes, on the right-hand side, you can see that we did achieved our commitment of net debt leverage target of 2.5x by the end of the year, the target of the range was 2.5x to 2.75x. The last comment I would say on this page is fueled by our ability to generate strong cash flows, we have the luxury to do both. By both is investing significantly into our business, but also rewarding our shareholder base, which leads us to the next page. Capital allocation. You can see very clearly, our investment priority are in three different folds. They remain balanced and they remain consistent. This is anchored by our strong cash flow generating ability, which provides us optionality and flexibility as it relates to these three areas. First and foremost, we will always invest in the business for growth. We will deploy capital against items like technology stack, automation, fleet, building and tuck-in M&As, as Kevin talked about. As Kevin also mentioned, the first bucket also includes our investment in recipe for growth, which is delivering success across the enterprise. One thing to note return on investment, ROIC is the lens for the [ rubrics ] in which we will operate to ensure we are generating optimal return based on the capital that we deploy. Second, we will continue to maintain strong balance sheet, investment-grade rating. This allows us to have access to the capital markets at very attractive rates. So when opportunities avail themselves, we can fully take advantage of it, assuming it hits the hurdle for ROIC. So now least and very important for us is any excess capital will be returned back to shareholders. We are committed to maintaining our dividend aristocrat status, which I'll talk about in a minute. And we are constantly in the market and consistently in the market of repurchasing shares. Sysco is the only full distributor with an investment advanced grade rating and a dividend payer. On to the next page. This is one of our favorite pages. It's a page that, it's a slide that we are extremely proud of, based on a strong track record. We have increased our dividend for 54 consecutive years, putting us in a very early group of dividend payers in the consumer staple space. For FY '24, we plan to pay out approximately $1 billion of dividends. Now if you draw the line of the dividend yield, that is roughly 2x S&P 500 average. Now we also expect to complete roughly $750 million of share repurchases. Now that number reflects up depending on our M&A pipeline, however, as of right now, we are committed to $1.75 billion that return to shareholders this year. Over the course of the past 9 years, including 2014, that number is $17 billion to shareholders via dividends and share repurchases. In closing, as Kevin highlighted, we remain on target. We are confident with our full year guide for fiscal year 2024, which is mid-single digits on the top line with the corresponding outsized growth on earnings, and that equates to roughly 5% to 10% growth on EPS year-on-year. We expect to generate another record year of free cash flow as well and continue to leverage our size and scale in the marketplace. One of the things I love about the company is this is a high-volume business and micro adjustments sparked out especially around operational efficiency. We ended last year FY '23 with momentum, and that is carrying into this year at the story moment. We are optimistic with our ability to deliver a great year. But from my standpoint, I'm more excited about delivering for future years to come. Thank you for your time today. And with that, I will turn it back to Jeff for Q&A.
Jeffrey Bernstein
analystThank you, Kenny. Thank you, Kevin. So I have a few questions for you feeding off of your presentation. I think investors are obviously pleased to hear the reiteration of the fiscal '24 guidance 2 months into the year. Just wondering if you could talk about that confidence in the environment that we're currently in? Both on the top and bottom line. And your ability to achieve that regardless of the environment we might face?
Kevin Hourican
executiveSure great. Appreciate the question. I'll start and then I'll pass to Kenny for additional comments. So we are confident in our ability to hit the year as both Kenny and I said in our prepared remarks. We also gave context a couple of months ago about what we expect the environment to be fiscal 2024 will be a bit muted as a market perspective, from a volume growth versus normal. And then this unique environment in the U.S. where we will be deflationary for at least for first full half of the year was also unusual across the past 25 years, I think there've been 2 years of deflation over the past 25 years, and that's unusual. What we communicated on our earnings call back in August and when we are reiterating today, is that we are going to grow both our top line and our bottom line in those market conditions. And as Kenny did said, we just did it in Q4, which is why we have confidence in our ability to do it in fiscal year 2024. We experienced deflation in people and our core U.S. business, and we still grew our GP dollars per case. We were able to grow both our top and bottom line. We're off to a good start, 2 months in. It's a long year. There are still many things that could occur. There are unique curve balls, that could, in fact, happen this year. 1 of Kenny's main points that I want to reiterate today is the following. If some unique things happen. If the volume growth is slower in the overall market than what we expected. We will take the appropriate actions as a leadership team to pull other levers within the P&L in order to deliver the bottom line. And mostly, that's through expense management, disciplined return on investment of our capital and managing our business extremely well. But 2 months in off to a good start, we're confident. Kenny, I'll pass it to you for additional comments.
Kenny Cheung
executiveYes. Thanks, Kevin. We are very confident with our ability to hit the full year guide. And let me say a few things. Number one, as Kevin talked about, our confidence is being supported by how we managed in Q4. In Q4, despite the fact that we did experience deflation in our U.S. market in the back half of the quarter, we achieved gross profit dollar per case increase. We've achieved gross margin expansion of 28 bps. We also achieved operating expense -- operating margin expansion of 56 bps. Our EBITDA for Q4 actually grew 4x faster than our sales. So we know how to operate in a dynamic environment that we see currently today. The second piece I would say is that to Kevin's point around we will monitor the macro landscape carefully, and we will deliberately deploy actions proactively and responsibly as well. The last point I would say is, believe it or not, we have a [indiscernible] of data. We have a lot of data in our business. So we are one of the first folks in their value chain, I can see trends coming along the way. So that ties up very nicely in terms of being proactive with market level insights.
Jeffrey Bernstein
analystGreat. The market share idea that was mentioned earlier with your 17%. Where do you think your opportunity is today to take that number, whether in your share of wallet, your position in the market, people often talk about further penetrating existing accounts, adding new accounts, M&A, just your confidence and your ability to do that regardless of the environment?
Kevin Hourican
executiveWe love this question, and there's some key data that we use with investors to reiterate, why this industry and why Sysco. First it's a very large total addressable market, $350 billion, of which we have [indiscernible] only 17%. And there's 2 more data points though that really convey the upside opportunity here. One is we serve roughly 50% of the unique doors out there from a restaurant count perspective. We absolutely have the opportunity to grow our door count, winning net new business for Sysco since we have the largest sales force in the industry. The second point though when I actually it's the even more important point is we have roughly 30% share of wallet of the existing doors we serve. In that vector of growth is the most profitable vector of growth because in any case we can add on the Sysco truck that's already stopping at a restaurant is profitable because it's the hard part that has already been done, driving from point A to point B to get that truck to the end customer. So what do you have to believe in order to be able to penetrate further on both of those vectors. I'll focus mostly on the second, which is the share of Wallet opportunity. We are the leader in the industry for what's called broadline goods, which is flours and sugars and shortenings, dry goods, frozen goods and everything in between. Well, we have an enormous opportunity to grow is in what we call specialty, produce, protein, Italian, Asian, we already did really well in Mexican, which is why I'm not mentioning that one right now. In those specialty businesses, by the way, they're all very large businesses. Our market share is well below the 17% that we have in total. When we can penetrate further in specialty and move up the penetration market share component within those specialty businesses and get specialty to match total broadline, it's worth billions of dollars of top line growth. That's what you've seen us getting over time, acquisitions that we've done. We just announced BIX Produce, which is a FreshPoint like entity based in Minnesota, that was white space on our geographic map. We did not have FreshPoint. There are still white spaces in the United States, where we do not have fresh produce. Northwest and the Northeast remain two large DMAs where we're not fully penetrated in specialty. So you'll see us doing things in M&A space. You'll see us doing things with greenfield of expanding our capabilities, enormous opportunity to improve in the specialty. And I'm only going to say 2 for time's sake. The second is further penetrate with product that we currently carry. We currently sell with customers who aren't buying those products from Sysco. And what you need to do there is to be right on price and you need to be able to inspire the customer to buy. And that's the work we've been doing on our digital tech space. We have procured a pricing tool that allows us to be what we call right-on price at the item customer level down to the individual SKU for the individual restaurant and to show that to the customer on a website that's unique to them. And as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, inspire them and prompt them to buy. So if they're in the checkout queue, just like if you're ordering on our website for your retail needs, and they didn't add flour, and we know they buy flour on a regular basis or they should. We can prompt them right then when they are in the checkout experience with a unique offer that's time bound that's good for them. And by the way, guess who also get to that same offer. The sales consultant that serves that account is going to get that same offer in their CRM tool. It may show up with that customer that week. They're going to be talking about that offer in selling the value prop on why that item is to be bought from Sysco. So we have big opportunities to continue to grow. We've grown faster than the industry for 3 consecutive years, and we believe that we accelerate and have confidence that will accelerate in fiscal '24. Jeff, back to you.
Jeffrey Bernstein
analystYes. No. The next question I have, I know it's a very important topic for Sysco and Neil, I know you're very passionate about it as well. Just wondering if you could talk about sustainability. You're ability to achieve your sustainability and DEI goals and how leadership, more importantly is held accountable on the progress of those goals?
Neil Russell
executiveYes, sure, Jeff. Thanks for asking. It's an important topic for us as you said the 3 of us up here are very committed to this work. And let me break your question down into 2 parts, if I could. The first is we do this work because it's the right thing to do, and we could stop there, but we don't. That's values. We continue down the path for the value part of it, meaning this work is also important to our customers and to our suppliers for restaurant tour to have on their white board this fish came from here matters. And for them to be able to sell it to the end consumer, how that was responsibly harvested as an example, matters. And if you do this work correctly, you can take those values to create value, and we believe in that opportunity. And that's a big advantage for us. We are investing in these capabilities ahead of peers and competitors who just don't have the capital or capabilities to do that, and we're going to be ahead in this space. And that's good for us. But again, it's also the right thing to do. Part 2 is more specific to your question, which is then we actually put our money where our math is, meaning we pay our management team on this work, not just mainly because I'm responsible for sustainability. But literally, all years across Sysco have in their short-term incentive plan, these goals that we've laid out to achieve and whether we hit these metrics each year or not. And we do it basically by saying we've got a really important 2030 goal, for example, on Greenhouse Gas Emissions to reduce our own emissions by 27.5%. And if you are here, and that goal is there, what are the activities to create the slope in the line between here and there that we need to accomplish each year and the achievement of those activities to be on that right path is how we will achieve that payout as a team, not just individual leaders. So everybody is committed to it. The organization has rallied around it, and it's going to add value to our customers.
Jeffrey Bernstein
analystUnderstood. Kenny being that you've only been here a few months, first of all, congratulations and your ability to deliver a compelling presentation. I was wondering from the operating expense standpoint, maybe you could provide a little detail on that $100 million of economical savings that you talked about? And how you're going to look at that in fiscal '24, given the current macro, you made it sound as if things get tougher. We're going to re-hit that and potentially take that above $100 million. So your thoughts on that?
Kenny Cheung
executiveSure, sure. First of all, thanks for the welcome. It's great to be here. So the $100 million, let me answer it two different ways. One is specific $100 million. And to your second point, how do you think about expenses going forward. The $100 million, as I mentioned, the good news is all of it has been actioned. We actually have a huge pipeline at the end of last year as we saw inflation would be around the corner. So our team totally proactive approach. Again, this goes back to the rich data set that we have in our business. The $100 million, all action on day one from [indiscernible] standpoint, you should expect pretty straight line in all 4 quarters. Why is that? Because it's sort of day one, right? So that's the phasing of $100 million. In terms of where you'll see on the P&L, it's mostly in the SG&A line. That's where it's mostly going to sit. This is on top -- on top of the supply chain efficiencies that Kevin described earlier. This is on top of the work that we do on strategic sourcing. This is purely mostly on the SG&A line. So what's in there? Right? So think about from the back office support, think about finance, accounting, legal, communication, et cetera, right? So think about those buckets in terms of savings. Now to your point just now, Jeff, we're not stopping. We're continuously evaluating the marketplace, looking at the dynamic backdrop and implementing a robust pipeline for further ideas to strengthen our operating leverage for our business. The way we think about expenses to drive leverage is twofold. One is gross profit growing faster than expenses. And also, as you saw in Q4, bottom line earnings growing faster than revenue.
Jeffrey Bernstein
analystUnderstood. I've got a slew of more questions, which I guess I'll say for the breakout room because we are out of time, but I want to thank Sysco and specifically Kevin, Kenny, Neil and Kevin again for joining us. And hopefully, you'll join us in breakout room. Thank you very much.
Kevin Hourican
executiveThank you all.
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