Tanger Inc. (SKT) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
November 18, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Kathleen McConnell
analystGood morning. I'm Katy McConnell, Citi equity research analyst covering retail REITs, and I'm pleased to be moderating the Tanger Outlet Factory presentation today. Please note a copy of disclosures can be available upon request. A question-and-answer session will follow some opening remarks from the company. [Operator Instructions] Joining us today from the Tanger team, we have CEO, Steve Tanger; Steve Yalof, President and Chief Operating Officer; Jim Williams, CFO; and Cyndi Holt, VP of Investor Relations. So now I will turn it over to Steve to kick things off with some opening remarks.
Steven Tanger
executiveThank you, Katy. Our company, Tanger Outlets, is the only publicly traded REIT specializing solely in the ownership and operation of destination, open air, outlet centers in the United States and Canada. Our centers provide an excellent value proposition for retailers that cannot be duplicated by e-commerce or other brick-and-mortar formats. Many of our tenants report that outlet stores remain one of their most profitable and important retail distribution channels. For many, the outlet business provides higher margins and lower customer acquisition and logistics costs than other distribution channels. Our open air, value-oriented centers provide retailers a direct touch point to what is often an incremental consumer and allow our tenants to maintain brand integrity through control of product placement and pricing. From a shopper perspective, we deliver sought-after brands, consistent value and more importantly, now than ever, a great experience. Our portfolio has proven resilient throughout our history, especially since governmental mandates were lifted throughout the second quarter of 2020. Shopper traffic has now rebounded to more than 90% of prior year levels and virtually all occupied stores are now open. October rent collections are more than 90% of the billed amounts. Each of these metrics demonstrates the value of outlet stores for retailers. Our balance sheet further differentiates Tanger. Our financial strategy has always been conservative with great emphasis on maintaining sufficient liquidity to provide optimal flexibility. This has served us well in 2020. As of today, our $600 million in unsecured lines of credit are fully [Technical Difficulty] debt maturities for over 3 years. Our business has generated positive cash flow since July and our $40 million cash balance as of the end of October has continued to grow during the fourth quarter. There is no question that COVID-19 has been impactful to our tenants and to our business. In the first 9 months of 2020, we recaptured over 0.5 million square feet of space in our consolidated portfolio due to retailer bankruptcies and restructuring, including over 200,000 square feet during the third quarter. Most of these situations were caused or accelerated by the virus. This provides a unique opportunity to diversify our tenant mix to include more our goods and to upgrade the mix to include more upscale brands. Today, everyone in our company acts as a leasing rep. On a mission to fill vacant space with exciting tenants and produce incremental NOI. While uncertainty remains around the duration and magnitude of the pandemic, we are encouraged to have already leased approximately half of the space recaptured during the quarter with incrementally new leasing. A portion of this new leasing is to pop-up stores, which allow us to introduce new brands and product categories to our portfolio, providing our shoppers with more brand variety and product choice and allowing the retailer to test the outlet distribution channel or a new Tanger market. While pop-up arrangements do not generate the same level of revenue as permanent leases, they do not require a landlord investment, and they offer the upside of potentially converting to permanent leases in the future. As we continue forward, we are sharpening our focus to -- on returning to long-term sustained growth. These efforts are centered around our core business. In addition to leasing, we are enhancing property operations and marketing. On the operations front, we have strengthened our operations team to amplify the planning and execution of operational strategies and expense management initiatives, grow center occupancy and develop new revenue opportunities. The underlying element of this approach is to ensure we have an empowered field-driven organization that is laser-focused on increasing NOI. Regarding marketing, driving shoppers to our centers remains a key priority. We have accelerated our digital marketing efforts, including the launch of our curbside and virtual programs as initial mandates expire, along with enhancements to our loyalty program and mobile app. The entire Tanger team is excited by the prospects for our company. Although it will take time to return to sustained growth as we continue to work through the impact of the pandemic and recent tenant reorganization, our portfolio of open air, value-oriented assets and our balance sheet are poised to perform and thrive in the future. Katy, I'll turn it back over to you.
Kathleen McConnell
analystOkay. Great. So with all that's happened since earnings with the election and a COVID vaccine potentially on the near-term horizon now, how has your outlook for the business, leasing and a potential recovery time line changed, if at all?
Steven Tanger
executiveSteve Yalof, are you on? I'll let you take that.
Stephen Yalof
executiveThanks, Steve, and thanks for the question, Katy. Well, as far as the time line is concerned, I think leasing, we've realized -- and I would say, in the past month, that the leasing reps that we're doing business with, representing the retailers have turned the faucets back on, so to speak. And there's been some leasing activity -- a lot more leasing activity in the last 30 days. So we're pretty encouraged. As far as the -- some of the vacancy that we've taken back that was exacerbated by the pandemic. It's going to probably take us a little while to get through that. But we are encouraged by our pop-up program, that's been pretty robust over the past 3 or 4 months. We brought some new tenants to the platform. And if history is any indication where we've had pop-up tenants in the past, we've converted them into long-term and full-term tenants that have grown within our portfolio. So we're excited about the prospects of growing some of that pop-up business. Most recently, 2 new tenants to our portfolio, Robert Graham and J. McLaughlin just joined us. They just opened stores in our portfolio as pop-ups, and we're hopeful that they'll grow within our portfolio as well. So I think we have a little bit of a steep road ahead of us as far as leasing is concerned, but I think prospects are pretty good as retailers are now starting to look at space again and have open to buy.
Kathleen McConnell
analystGreat. And then can you just touch on some of the advantages that you've seen in being an outlet focused REIT that have differentiated the company, especially as you've dealt with the impacts of the pandemic and how you expect to recover from it?
Stephen Yalof
executiveWell, first, let's start with the fact that we're open air shopping centers. And I think that's probably the most important part. As the mandates lifted in the retail stores, the non-essential retail started to open, our retailers returned back to our platform extremely quickly. In fact, Steve mentioned in his opening remarks that over 99% of our leased space has reopened. Traffic has also returned pretty quickly. We reported that our September traffic was in the high 90 percentile. In October and November, both over 90% of last year's numbers, and that's with about 30% less operating hours. Going forward, the month of November, we've now gone to -- we've added back 2 hours to the day, and we did so as a holiday selling season, we started promoting our holiday selling season at the beginning of the month. So we think the open air format, we think the value pricing, we've got an extremely loyal customer. Our VIP customer and our Tanger insider makes up a large portion of the folks that interact with us regularly on the web. And are digitizing our mobile app and web has given us the opportunity to showcase more product online so that a customer can have the full journey from shopping online, window shopping online and actually executing their purchases in our shopping centers. So I think open air, coupled with everyday value pricing, coupled with our amplification of digitizing our offering on our mobile app has made our platform a real solid platform for the go forward.
Kathleen McConnell
analystYes. Maybe you can expand on some of those digital programs that your tenants have worked on. And in light of that, how are you thinking about the risk of a second wave of lockdowns in your markets and how your tenants are positioned to keep business going to some extent?
Stephen Yalof
executiveWell, first of all, on the digital front, when -- when the mandates were ordered, we went to work over here. And obviously, one of our key initiatives was to figure out how we could distribute product to our loyal customers. I referenced earlier, our Tanger Insider and our Tanger VIPs, both of whom interact with our website on a regular basis. And we wanted to make sure that we were able to sell products to our loyal customers, who were in a geography where perhaps their stores -- the stores or the shopping centers in their markets had not yet reopened. And in that connection, we birthed the virtual shopper program. We stood it up as a beta test at the beginning of June, and it went live towards the end of the month. And since that time, we've had over 220,000 interactions. Obviously, we set that up just as a test, and it was more of an amenity to our VIP customers. But with the amount of traction that we've gotten, we've -- we're working on programs currently to commercialize that. And I think that, that's going to be an important piece of our business. If God forbid, there is a second wave, and we're -- and some of the non-essential retail has to close, at least we have a way of distributing our products to our customers. We have a way of our customers communicating with the retailers. And through this virtual shopping program, we believe that customers who need products or want to buy products from our outlet centers can purchase those products, and we can have those shipped and delivered to them. With regard to the non-essential -- with the essential retailers, a number of retailers in our portfolio have -- are starting to sell as part of their merchandise mix, essential products with the expectation that should there be a non-essential closing, they will have a product assortment in their store that will allow them to stay open. And obviously, being in an open air format, that will be a desirable place for a lot of people to go and continue to shop.
Kathleen McConnell
analystAnd bigger picture, how do you think about the risk that e-commerce could ultimately play in the outlet space if more of your tenants are building out these online platforms?
Stephen Yalof
executiveWell, I think a lot of our tenants already have online platforms, but I think most of our retailers don't have outlet online. Because their online business, the margins in online business are stressed as it is, they're selling their full-priced products primarily on their -- through their e-commerce and their channels. But we provide the opportunity for retailers that are using their online or e-commerce selling platforms to sell full-price product, we can allow them to sell their off-price product through our channel. And a number of retailers have stood up a lot of the product that is available in an outlet, hard to find online the outlet assortments, and we showcase a lot of that outlet assortment on the Tanger web and on the Tanger mobile app.
Kathleen McConnell
analystAll right. And then, Steve, given you joined Tanger during the beginning of the pandemic, what would you say are your initial impressions so far? And as you step into the CEO role, what would you say are your top corporate priorities heading into 2021.
Stephen Yalof
executiveWell, having stepped in, in the middle of the pandemic, my top priorities, obviously, are sticking to our core business, which is the leasing, the marketing and the operating shopping centers. From an operational point of view, we have had a new Executive Vice President of Operations join our company in the last 1.5 months, somebody who I had the opportunity to work with in past positions in the outlet business. Who is going to bring a whole set of discipline and focus to how we operate ground up our shopping centers. And the timing couldn't be any better. One of the discipline she brings to the table is local leasing initiatives. And right now, with some of the restructurings and a lot of stores coming back to us, we're going to -- and with most of our leasing team unable to travel, we have the opportunity to leverage our general managers and our field teams in each of the shopping centers to do a lot of the canvasing and a lot of the local leasing on our behalf. So we've got our leasing team working with their national tenants. We've got a robust top-up program from a leasing point of view. And then from the ground up, we've got our field teams out in the field looking for exciting retailers, local retailers, food and beverage, experiential retail that has become important in those particular geographies, and we're moving forward in doing a lot of that leasing as well. So it's a top-up and a bottom-down attack from a leasing point of view.
Kathleen McConnell
analystGreat. So before we dive into leasing, I just want to touch on where do rent collection levels stand now? And in recent months, October and November, have they been trending in the right direction?
Steven Tanger
executiveJim, I'll turn that over to you. You may have your phone on mute.
James Williams
executiveI did. I'm sorry, Katy. Yes, we're very pleased to have made tremendous progress in third quarter and reporting an 89% rent collections with another 3% expected to get to 92%. And so we're continuing to make progress, and we're seeing as we move into October, already in the 90% and so far, November is trending very similar to that. I think just kind of looking forward, we will -- this whole year, there's still going to be a few and smaller amounts deferrals and these onetime concessions. Most of that was occurred in second quarter where most tenants selected to take those as a lump sum. But there's a few that had -- were taking credits on a monthly basis. So a little bit of that's going to be flowing through the balance of the year. So we won't get to 100%, for sure. But we're very pleased to see that now get into the 90s and growing.
Kathleen McConnell
analystAll right. Great. And then can you update us on your exposure to bankruptcy tenants today? And what's your outlook for tenant fallout that's still to come in 4Q and post holidays, relative to the impact that we saw in 3Q?
Stephen Yalof
executiveWell we shared with you that we anticipate getting another 400,000 square feet back between now and the end of the middle of next year. And we don't foresee any surprises beyond that. But as we indicated, at least in Q3, we were able to mitigate a lot of that occupancy that we got back with new leasing. And obviously, employing all the strategies that I just shared with you, we feel pretty confident that we'll take a bite out of that space. We certainly think it's going to take some time to get there, but I think we'll be able to -- I think our leasing team -- and Steve said in his opening remarks, everybody on our team is a leasing representative. I think we're equal to this task. And obviously, the open air outlet shopping facility, coupled with the fact that we are pretty much a low-cost provider relative to other bricks-and-mortar and street retail and e-commerce. So there's a reason why a lot of the retailers returned as quickly as they have to the outlet format, low capital requirement to open new stores and great margins for retailers. So we're looking forward to moving forward and getting that space leased.
Kathleen McConnell
analystGreat. And then maybe you could walk through a little bit in more detail what backfilled leasing demand looks like today for outlet space? And where are you seeing the most and the least demand as far as [indiscernible] and size formats go?
Stephen Yalof
executiveWell, first of all, none of our spaces are particularly big in outlet. So we're about -- one of our largest spaces in the outlet is probably about 25,000 square feet. So we don't have large boxes that are difficult to fill. Also, another fundamental is that our bay depth is about somewhere between 80 feet and 100 feet. So we don't necessarily have awkward configured locations. They're also easy to reconfigure and require very little capital to do so. Lastly, our shopping centers are typically designed where we provide a storefront for the retailer, which is not necessarily typical in other forms of retail. So that requires a lot less capital for a new retailer to open up a store in our format. That said, a lot of the new leasing is coming from a number of places. First of all, it's coming from existing retailers that are doing extremely well in the platform itself, and they're expanding, whether they're expanding existing stores and getting bigger or expanding deeper into our portfolio. We've also -- are tapping the hard goods market, where there's historically been huge dependency on apparel and footwear in the outlets. We're reaching out and where we've been most successful recently is with home stores. In fact, we just added a West Elm and a Pottery Barn in our shopping center in Lancaster. They came from another mall in the area that has seen some vacancy. And so they've decided to move into our outlet center in an outlet format where they believe the traffic is. So -- and then lastly, we're going after a lot of retailers that have not -- that do have outlet center presence, but not necessarily presence in our shopping centers. And we're starting out, as I said earlier, with pop-up stores with a lot of these retailers so that we can give them the opportunity to try before they buy essentially. And where we've had success doing that before, retailers like Vineyard Vines, Tory Burch and Lululemon, we're hoping that we'll have similar success with some of the retailers that we're working with now in some of our shopping centers. Particularly in the Northeast and also in the Sunbelt, where we're working with a lot of new-to-market golf brands that are looking to be in this format now.
Kathleen McConnell
analystAnd so would you say the size in the leasing pipeline, would you expect to see an acceleration in leasing volumes in 4Q?
Stephen Yalof
executiveI don't want to guide to where I think it's going to go. But again, I think there's leasing activity in the last 30 days that we haven't seen since April. Like I said, retailers now have a capital plan and they have open to buy. And it's our expectation that we're going to capture our share of that open to buy.
Kathleen McConnell
analystOkay. And then maybe you could walk us through the typical time line to re-lease space once you've signed a new tenant? And how are the landlords and tenants sharing in that CapEx burden today? Is that dynamic changing at all?
Stephen Yalof
executiveWell, typical time line, I would say it's really all across the board. So for example, I mentioned J. McLaughlin. J. McLaughlin took -- we signed at least 2 weeks ago. They took delivery possession last week. They're going to be open on Saturday. So that's a pop-up store in one of our more popular centers out on Long Island's East end. That's a pretty short fuse. They'll be taking a space that was vacated by an apparel store. So they get the benefit of the existing build-out. Obviously, they'll commercialize it and make it their own. But that's a good indication of a quick turnaround time. And with that local leasing initiative that I spoke to you about, we'll be working with a lot of local retailers with similar time lines where we can turn vacant space into cash flow quite quickly. Obviously, a lot of those spaces will be short-term leases while we keep the space warm essentially, our focus is really to do long-term and permanent deals. But right now, occupancy is critical to us, maintaining a high occupancy is better for the customer and the shopper. It brings a more vibrant experience for the customers that are shopping, our shopping centers, and that's pretty critical.
Kathleen McConnell
analystAnd for the bankruptcy space that's already fallen out to date, maybe then you could update us on the progress you've made in re-leasing that space, whether it's in negotiations and discussions or LOIs, how much is addressed at this point, would you say?
Stephen Yalof
executiveWell, first of all, I think it's important to understand that with the lion's share of the bankruptcy space is -- these bankruptcies were really more restructurings than they were liquidations. So we're finding that we have a lot of our tenants that were or are in bankruptcy, have opened their stores in our portfolio and continue to operate as we negotiate through the bankruptcy workouts. So as far as other vacancy is concerned, I think there's a lot of opportunity created by some of the vacancy that we got, particularly in some of our top shopping centers that have been trending extremely high occupancies over the last few years. And now are creating new opportunity for existing retailers that want to get bigger in the portfolio or other retailers that we haven't had room in those particular centers. A lot of that space will be filled with some of the higher end power retailers that we're talking to now and a lot of the athletic footwear, some of which will be expanding, and some will be taking new stores in our platform.
Kathleen McConnell
analystOkay. And then maybe you could touch on how lease negotiations are going now and provide some color on the negative leasing spreads that we saw in 3Q? And should we expect that kind of as a near-term run rate or could it potentially get a little bit worse before improving?
Stephen Yalof
executiveAgain, I think that's all across the board, too. I think the first thing we have to look at is our renewals. I mean we are pretty much -- we're within 150 basis points of where we were as far as completing renewals this time last year. So obviously, the renewable business is robust, and we're moving forward to getting our renewals completed. As far as the new deals are concerned, by definition of pop-up, obviously, we're willing to accept less than market rent for a pop-up. But again, a lot of those deals, the short-term leases, the pop-up deals that we're working on right now, yes, I mean, we're making promotional deals in order to lease the occupied space. But again, once the market corrects itself, we'll give ourselves the opportunity with those short-term leases to appropriately price our real estate. So I do think there's going to be some short-term or near-term pressure on rents. But I think that once the market corrects, our rent as a percentage of sales is very attractive for a lot of retailers. It is not bank breaking. And in fact, a lot of retailers have spent a lot of time on the retailer side. Outlet centers are huge contributors from a 4-wall profit point of view for a number of retailers out there. And we believe going forward, we'll be able to correct from a rental point.
Kathleen McConnell
analystOkay. Great. And then maybe you could walk us through quickly your top priorities for capital allocation in 2021. And how does the dividend fit into that plan? How are you thinking about establishing a sustainable level next year?
Stephen Yalof
executiveI think Mr. Tanger is going to take that question. Steve, you might be on mute.
Steven Tanger
executiveI'm on mute? At least I hope not. Can you hear me okay?
Stephen Yalof
executiveYes.
Steven Tanger
executiveWe are committed to maintaining REIT status. And as such, we'll reinstitute the dividend next year. The timing and the cadence of the payment of that dividend, we have not determined yet. As far as capital allocation is concerned, we will continue to allocate capital to maintain and update our shopping centers. So that when our customers come, they have an enjoyable experience. We will allocate capital to help our tenants get open and contribute to their store build-out. That payment usually is not made until they're open and starting to pay rent. So it's a direct link to additional NOI, and we will allocate capital to continue to reduce our debt. So those are our major capital allocation buckets for next year.
Kathleen McConnell
analystAll right. Great. Well, I think that wraps up our time here. So I want to thank you, again, Steve and the whole Tanger team and everyone listening on the line. We appreciate the time.
Steven Tanger
executiveThank you, Katy.
Stephen Yalof
executiveThanks, Katy.
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