Teleflex Incorporated (TFX) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 14, 2024

New York Stock Exchange US Health Care Health Care Equipment and Supplies conference_presentation 28 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Craig Bijou

analyst
#1

Good afternoon. My name is Craig Bijou. I am one of the medical device analysts here at BofA. And it's a pleasure to have Teleflex with me, and from the company, Liam Kelly, CEO. Welcome. Thank you.

Liam Kelly

executive
#2

Thank you very much. Glad I got here.

Craig Bijou

analyst
#3

I've heard about the elevator issues. All right. Maybe let's just start with if you could just kind of recap Q1 results and kind of some of the strength that you saw there.

Liam Kelly

executive
#4

Yes. So we were really happy with our Q1 performance, beginning with revenue. Revenue came in strong. We saw a very strong March, in particular, in some of our business units that I'll get into in a second and ultimately came in $11 million ahead of where we thought we were going to land at the -- in the first quarter. The businesses that outperformed were really our Interventional business. The environment in the cath lab is still globally very attractive, and it's an area of ongoing growth and opportunity for the company. OEM continues to perform well over a multiyear period now as the microcatheters perform well as part of the HPC acquisition but also our general extruded catheters and our suture business performs well. Surgical took a nice step-up within the quarter. So those are the business segments that performed well. Interventional Urology came in, in line with expectations, grew at 6.1%, so very positive start there. And geographically, Asia Pacific, double-digit growth. EMEA came in at 9% growth for the business. So I think all in all, it was a real solid performance. Then you come down to gross margins and op margins. They both come in ahead of expectations. Our gross margins were beyond the high end of our full year guide, so a really good start to the year. Our operating margins were towards the high end of our full year guide in excess of 26%, and earnings grew 3.9%. So anytime you grow earning, your revenue grew by 3.8%, your earnings grew by 3.9%, that's a good start to the year by any yardstick.

Craig Bijou

analyst
#5

Great. That's a great summary. Want to talk about just some of the guidance for the year before kind of diving into some of the specific segments. And I think Q2 -- you expect Q2 growth to decelerate despite easier comps from where it was in Q1. And given some of the strength that you just talked about in Q1, I guess, why may we see a little bit of a pullback in Q2 growth? And then obviously, that implies the second half, a little bit of a ramp there. So I just kind of want to get your thoughts around the full year and how you see the full year playing out.

Liam Kelly

executive
#6

So first of all, our guidance for the full year is unchanged. We still expect to grow 3.75% to 4.75%. Now investors familiar with Teleflex will know that, within those numbers, there is a headwind of 1% from an inorganic perspective. We exited an MSA, and we anniversaried that and also the acquisition of Palette. So you put those 2 together, so our organic guide, if we want to call it that, is 4.75% to 5.75%. And we still feel confident in our ability to achieve that. We guided to the second quarter to do $760 million to $765 million, which is 3.7% growth. And the seasonality is normal. You normally take a wee bit of a step back in Q2 over Q1, so that would be pretty normal. And -- but you are right. It does imply that the business improves in the back half. And there's a few very simple reasons for that. Number one, Palette, which is our latest acquisition, will continue to ramp as we go through the year. We still expect Palette Life Sciences to do $66 million to $68 million on a full year basis. And 6 months under our ownership, I have to tell you, it's gone very well and coming in, in line with expectations. The -- we also anniversary 2 recalls as we go through the year. So once you get into Q3, we will have fully anniversaried the recall in the vascular business and the recall the anesthesia business. So you should expect to see the vascular business pick up somewhat in the back half of the year. And those are the really, the biggest moving pieces in the second half of the year. But I think we feel confident as a company that we can achieve the goals that we laid out for ourselves at the beginning of the year. And it's 1 quarter in and only 3 more to go, and we'll be there.

Craig Bijou

analyst
#7

Similar question on the EPS line. I apologize given that it's just 1 quarter. But you did allude to your strong beat, I think a beat by $0.15 in Q1. I think the guidance was raised by $0.025 at the midpoint. There is some incremental FX headwind that's kind of built into that. But it still looks like the beat's -- the Q1 beat isn't necessarily fully flowing through to the full year guidance. So I mean anything that -- I mean, again, is that conservatism to start the year? Or is there anything else that we should be thinking about that could impact the margins?

Liam Kelly

executive
#8

Yes. Well, I guess it depends on how you look at the glass. Is it half full or is it half empty? I am really proud of the performance candidly in Q1. I think, as I said earlier, any time you grow your earnings faster than your revenue, that's a good quarter. And as we go through the year, we'll continue to execute. We've been executing well for the last 5 quarters. So I've said to investors many times, Teleflex is going to execute over the period of time. We're now 5 for 5, and we won't be happy until we're 10 for 10 in that regard. Now specifically to EPS, we didn't guide to -- I just want to start there. We didn't guide to a Q2 number. We guided for revenue. We did not guide to earnings per share. Our internal plan, we exceeded by $0.09. So what we rolled through at the bottom end of the range was a $0.05 of that beat, and we're also offsetting $0.05 of headwind from FX. So we actually rolled through $0.01 more at the bottom end than we actually beat by. And one thing I forgot to mention on the revenue line, Craig, that we updated our FX assumptions, and there's a $6 million negative impact in Q2 driven by that update in FX. The biggest impact is a total, I think, of around $10 million. Biggest impact of that is in Q2. And also, there was a little bit of a pull forward in revenue from OEM. We shipped some business in Q1 that we had originally anticipated shipping in Q2 and -- but they're rounding errors in the whole of a $3 billion annual business.

Craig Bijou

analyst
#9

Got it. And maybe getting into some of the segments that you mentioned that have shown some strength. Start with OEM. And there are several, I guess, other businesses or other companies that have an OEM business, talked about inventory work down. And we keep hearing this. It doesn't seem to be impacting you guys that much. And then maybe just -- maybe you can go into a little bit more detail on why your OEM business has been as strong as it has been over the last several years. Can it maintain a double-digit growth trajectory? And is it customer end markets? Is it some of your differentiated products? I would just love to understand kind of how you guys see your business and the impact that it can have on the overall business.

Liam Kelly

executive
#10

Yes. I mean I think our OEM business traditionally in the past was growing around 4%, 5%. Definitely, over the last number of years, it has accelerated that growth, and there's a few reasons for that. Number one was we acquired a company called HPC, which brought us into the microcatheter area. And you're just in faster growing end markets in that business. So you're in the neuro space, the EP space, so by definition, you get more growth in those spaces. And then the core of the business, the extrusion part of the business and the suture part of the business have also performed well. So we've always said that this business is well capable of doing high single, low double digits with good execution. I think that this year, it'll do that. It had a really strong start. Because of the slight dynamics with the orders, Q1 to Q2, it'll take a little bit of a step back in Q2. But I still think that this is a business that is well capable of driving to that level. And I think this year, we'll demonstrate it yet again that it's a high single, low double-digit grower for the remainder of the year.

Craig Bijou

analyst
#11

Interventional was another business that if you look over the last 5 quarters, a couple of quarters, you've got 20-plus percent growth in that business. So how sustainable is that? Or how should we think about the forward-looking profile of that business? Can that be a double digit? Can it be higher? Or can it be low double digit? Can it be teens? Any way to think about what that business could be?

Liam Kelly

executive
#12

So there's a few elements within that business that continue to perform very well. Obviously, you have MANTA in there, our large foreclosure product. That had strong double-digit growth in the first quarter, which, again, continues to contribute to the growth of the overall Interventional business. Our complex catheter business, which is from the legacy VSI acquisition back in 2017 continued to perform well. We launched GuideLiner Coast in the beginning of last year. That has performed well. You've got GuideLiner, traditional TrapLiner. You got Turnpike and that range of products that continue to do well. We also launched a new intra-aortic balloon pump a number of years ago. And while that is not a new product anymore in the United States, it went through its registration process overseas and is seen as a new product, in particular, in the overseas markets. And it's getting some traction, and obviously, the balloon catheters that go with that, over a multiyear period, are important. And the lifeblood of that business is new product introductions. So as I said earlier in the year or last year, we launched the GuideLiner Coast. We just watched a limited market launch for the Wattson guidewire, which is -- seems to be being well received by the customers. We have the Ringer, which is a perforation balloon catheter that's going to come through in the back end of this year. And then late in 2025, we'll get the Triumph catheter into the market as well. So we have a cadence of new products coming through in this business. And I think that this business, again, is well capable of that high single, low double-digit growth. And this year, it started fast. So I think it's a business that we're excited about. I mean, the cath lab right now is a good place to be. It's a good place to drive revenue. You get higher growth in that segment. And our business is performing well, and it's good execution by the team.

Craig Bijou

analyst
#13

Got it. So want to talk about UroLift, and the math suggests maybe low teens growth for UroLift specifically in Q1. By our math, I think your guidance implies that it might be down 10% for the full year. And I guess the question here is when do you think we can see some stabilization in that business, particularly in the U.S. I think that's where -- what investors are looking for. I think that, I mean, in my opinion, it does a lot for you guys once we kind of hit that baseline. So how do think about -- like how do you think about when that can happen?

Liam Kelly

executive
#14

So first of all, Interventional Urology grew 6.1% in the quarter. Still feel confident in the guide that we gave at the beginning of the year. I think Interventional Urology will grow 7.5%. Palette life Science is going well. It came in, in line with our expectation in Q1, as did UroLift. It delivered what we expected within the quarter. A couple of things within that. The office side of service continues to be a challenge and also the training of the 50 reps. So we're cross training 50 reps that are our best UroLift sales force, and they are now being trained on Barrigel. So once we get to end of Q2 and into Q3, all of those -- that training will be completed, and those individuals will be back in the marketplace. I still think that there's a cohort of urologists that want to do this procedure in the office side of service. And it's really all about the office side of service. That's where the decline and the change in reimbursement definitely had an impact. At some stage, it will bottom out, and as soon as the office side of service bottoms out, then UroLift will grow because, for the entirety of last year, it grew in the hospital side of service, and it's growing in the international markets. So we will continue to manage what's within our control. We -- in last year, we trained as many urologists as we trained during the peak in 2019. We have a volume rebate program in place in the office side of service. We have continued to put a focus on the clinical aspect of the product. And at AUA, we had 5 key papers that were published. I guess a few of the noteworthy ones was the patient satisfaction with UroLift following the procedure compared to being on meds and also the comparison between all of the BPH procedures based on stats from the MAUDE database based on complications from many of these other procedures. And coupled with that, there was another study we presented on readmission rates for all of the BPH procedures, and it demonstrated the lowest readmission rate back into a hospital after you've had a BPH therapy is for UroLift. So the product continues to perform well. International is going well. Japan is performing well. And it's really about bottoming out the office side of service. And I do believe that we do feel confident that, that will happen at some stage. And we also feel confident in our guide as we have it right now.

Craig Bijou

analyst
#15

Got it. Maybe on international, so I guess, Japan is obviously a big market. So -- and I know at one point, you had said you expected a similar ramp to the U.S., roughly 1/3 of the size, same timing. So one, does that -- is that still your view of the Japan market?

Liam Kelly

executive
#16

Yes. In a word, yes. Yes.

Craig Bijou

analyst
#17

Okay. And I mean, I guess, what other international countries are you seeing a pickup?

Liam Kelly

executive
#18

Yes. So really, when you look internationally, you want to look at the markets that are going to move the needle. And the markets that are going to move the needle are right now Japan. It doesn't mean we're not doing business in other parts of Asia. We are in India. We're in Taiwan. We're in Korea. We're in other parts of Southeast Asia. And we began in Australia with one of the very first market. But the needle movers are really going to be Japan and ultimately, China. And where we're at in China is we have got the product registered. We are currently trialing the product to get it listed on the tenders in Shanghai and in Beijing because they're the 2 biggest provinces. As we go through that process and get it listed, we should get that listed as we go through this year. And then in late '25, '26, we would hope to get reimbursement for the product in a more broader area of Mainland China. And that would then allow us to make sure the out-of-pocket expense, because it's a pay-for-play model there even if you have insurance, the out-of-pocket expense for the patient that would be receiving the procedure would be much less.

Craig Bijou

analyst
#19

Got it. I mean any early idea or early potential contribution from China ramp? I mean how should we think about that? Is it -- does it look like Japan? Does it look like the U.S.?

Liam Kelly

executive
#20

So from a number of patients, it's very impressive because you've got such a huge population there. There are actually more patients that suffer with BPH in China than there are in Americas because it's so large. But really you got to focus down on the Eastern Seaboard. And if you focus down on the Eastern Seaboard, then you're looking at a population similar to Japan that you would be able to attract, so again, around 1/3 of the size of the U.S. market based on that geographical split. I think it's early days. Right now, we're just ramping slowly. We're in the private hospitals, and we're ramping, as I said, in the public hospitals. And as we start to get traction and get it listed on the tenders, then we'll be able to give a more wholesome update as to where that product category will be going. But again, they are the needle movers overseas. It's really focused on -- I would encourage investors to focus on Japan and China because those are the ones that are going to make a difference.

Craig Bijou

analyst
#21

Got it. Palette, you talked about how well it's doing, still relatively early. But maybe just the confidence in your high teens to low 20s growth, is that market expansion? Or is it share taking. I guess maybe a little bit more color on kind of how you are going to get to that level of growth.

Liam Kelly

executive
#22

Yes. So I feel confident in the high teens to low 20s. I think that, that basically gets you to that number of $66 million to $68 million that I've been talking about on a full year basis. As I sit here today, feel really good about that. For us, it's about white space and growing into that white space. The stats are staggering when you look at how many patients don't get spacing rather than when you look at how many patients do get spacing. Of our UroLift population that use UroLift every day, only 20% of them use Barrigel, only 40% of the new spacing, so 60% of white space to grow into. And that's a $330 million market TAM that we're growing into. So our focus has been to convert the market. There are some conversions along the way as one would expect because the technology is being very well received. What clinicians tend to like about the technology is that you can mold with the technology, so therefore, you don't have to rush. It doesn't set as quick as some of the technologies out there. So it allows the clinician time to actually use the Barrigel product to cover the entire prostate and therefore, to protect the other sites -- the other organs. One thing I would want to mention as well is that we're in the early stages. We've agreed the protocol for an additional study that we believe will be able to expand the market for Barrigel by an additional $100 million or beyond that $330 million. We have identified the sites that are going to participate in the study. We know how many patients we need to recruit. We're in conversations with the FDA just to finalize the follow-up because it's really measuring -- toxicity is what you want to measure. And that indication would expand the market by another $100 million. And we believe that Barrigel would be the only spacing technology in this particular application that would be used -- that could be used in that application. None of the other spacing products would be able to be used in this specific application.

Craig Bijou

analyst
#23

Okay. Helpful. I do -- I want to talk about 2025. I know you're not going to give guidance. You have an LRP that's out there. That's your final year. There's a bit of a disconnect, which I'm sure you're aware and investors bring it up between where the Street's modeling, your margins, your revenue growth and what is implied by the LRP. So I guess -- I mean, I guess the question is how do we understand kind of what '25 could be? I think you've talked in general about revenue growth and some of the ways to get there. It might be a little bit harder to see the margin expansion at least from an investor perspective. So I guess how do we think about revenue growth margin expansion in '25? And I guess go.

Liam Kelly

executive
#24

Yes. So I think if you look at the LRP, the components of it were -- and we're in the second year of it right now, is a revenue CAGR of 6%. And in the first year of the LRP, we grew 6.5%. Obviously, our guide has the 100 basis points of headwind that we spoke about. But I think we see line of sight to get to that 6% CAGR. On the gross margins, we were going to expand our gross margins by 250 basis points. So that gets us north of 61%. In the first quarter, we were north of 61%. So I think that if we focus on executing on that gross margin. And as you know, you can't get op margin without gross margin. So I feel that we have good line of sight to the 250 basis points of gross margin expansion. It is going to be more difficult to get to the operating margin of 29%, but the target is the target as we sit here today, and we're going to continue to execute towards that. I believe that Teleflex is well capable of getting to 29% operating margin and indeed, beyond that in the fullness of time. We'll see what happens as we close out this year on both revenue, gross margin and op margin. Then we'll use that as a jump-off into the final year of the LRP.

Craig Bijou

analyst
#25

Got it. And I don't know, your normal cadence is an Analyst Day and the new LRP every 3 years. I mean is that something we should expect next year in '25?

Liam Kelly

executive
#26

Yes. I think that sometime in 2025, we should -- we would have the LRP. My preference would be to have it in the autumn, fall time frame. So I think May is a little bit early. You still have a lot of the year to run through, so we might do it a little bit later. We'll update the investment community as to when we selected the date.

Craig Bijou

analyst
#27

Okay. Maybe just talking on inflation and supply chain. You guys have been very transparent with some of the headwinds that you've seen. I think you're expecting inflation to be a little bit higher in '24 than it was in '23. So maybe just think about -- or if you can give us some color on maybe a dollar difference and then how far above that is normal.

Liam Kelly

executive
#28

Yes. What is normal anymore? So I will tell you that on -- if you go back to pre-pandemic times and pre-inflationary times, our normal inflation was somewhere in that $20 million. As we went out to the other side of the pandemic, that tripled to $60 million as an inflationary number. What we have expected in this year 2024 is not deflation but disinflation, and that's exactly what we're seeing. We're seeing stability and improvement in our freight and in our material costs compared to the prior year period, still up but not growing as fast as it was. So we are seeing exactly as we thought the disinflation that we anticipated. I think that the -- you do have the dynamic of the inflation that was last year, gets capitalized and gets rolled off the balance sheet in the first half of this year so that you will see that in the first half of this year. But we've got good line of sight to that, so I think that's well manageable. And I don't believe you're going to have that, a significant cap and roll as you go into 2025. So it should help with our margin expansion goals and being able to achieve that 250 basis points expansion.

Craig Bijou

analyst
#29

And I mean could we see lower inflation in '25? Is that too much of a...

Liam Kelly

executive
#30

You mean deflation?

Craig Bijou

analyst
#31

Yes.

Liam Kelly

executive
#32

I think that would be tough to see deflation. I don't see any early indicator that you're going to get to deflation, but I do believe that you will continue to see disinflation when you go into 2025. To get into a deflationary mode would mean price reductions from all your suppliers. I can't see them queuing up for that. But I do think that our team has managed it exceptionally well, and I think they've -- as well as managing it exceptionally well, they forecasted exceptionally well. And we have been able to identify what it's going to be for an entire year and map it out. So I think we have a pretty good read and understanding as to what it's going to be in this year. And that gives us a lot of confidence in what it's going to be in 2025, and we would envision definitely continued disinflation in 2025.

Craig Bijou

analyst
#33

Only have a minute left. Maybe I'll segue into pricing. You've kind of talked about it and just your confidence that you can continue to deliver positive price as you have for the last several years.

Liam Kelly

executive
#34

Yes, we -- every year, we set out our stall and we've been able to deliver at least 50 basis points. That's the last 2 years, and it's the same this year. I think as we head into next year, I think it will be in that ballpark as well. I think we've been selective in our pricing. You've got to be careful that you don't want to impact the volume because of the pricing. And I think that we've, again, done a pretty good job in managing our pricing, pushing through appropriate pricing on the appropriate product categories without having a disenfranchised customer that would impact volume.

Craig Bijou

analyst
#35

Got it. I think with that, we're out of time. So thank you, Liam.

Liam Kelly

executive
#36

Thank you very much. Cheers.

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