Terna S.p.A. (TRN) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

July 27, 2023

Borsa Italiana IT Utilities Electric Utilities earnings 48 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Terna First Half 2023 Consolidated Results Presentation. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to our host speaker today, Mr. Omar Al Bayaty, Head of Investor Relations and Sustainability. Please go ahead, sir.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#2

Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Terna First Half 2023 Result Presentation. The call will be hosted by our CEO, Giuseppina Di Foggia; and our CFO, Agostino Scornajenchi. Following the presentation, we will have the Q&A session. We kindly ask to submit question to Investor Relations at Terna.it. Please Giuse, the floor is yours.

Giuseppina Di Foggia

executive
#3

Thank you, Omar, and good afternoon, everybody. Let me -- the Annual General Meeting appointed the new Board of Directors with Igor De Biasio as Chairman and myself as CEO. I'm delighted and proud to take up this new challenge. From what I have seen, Terna is in excellent shape. Our people have outstanding skills and know how, which means we will continue to grow in a sustainable way. Energy transition is a mandatory part to a sustainable future. We intend to further enhance Terna's role in the energy transition, continuing along our strategic roadmap for the development of the electricity system of the future. Now before starting to analyze the figures, I would like to share with you the main achievements of the first part of the year. Regarding regulated activities, let me remind you that last March, we presented the new 10-year national development plan. More than EUR 21 billion of investment aimed at continuing the integration of renewable sources and the progressive result of coal-fired power plants. Terna foreseen CapEx plan will be crucial to achieve national and European decarbonization targets. I'm pleased to say we are well on track with the investment and usage in our plan. What have we achieved regarding the sustainability in the period? Four of the most prestigious international indices that select leading companies in terms of ESG best practices have recently confirmed the inclusion of Terna. Our ESG commitment is also reflected in Terna's refinancing. Last May, Terna signed an ESG-linked revolving credit facility for EUR 1.8 billion. And last week, we successfully launched a fixed rate green bond of EUR 650 million. The market reacted positively with demand of [ slipping ] supply by almost 4x the offered amount. These transactions demonstrate the group's strong commitment to introduce ESG criteria also as a strategic lever to create value for all its stakeholders. Finally, regarding shareholder remuneration. In June, we paid EUR 20.83 per share as a 2022 final dividend. So the total dividend for the year, including the interim payment of last November, is equal to EUR 31.44 per share in line with our dividend policy. After this brief introduction, let's now look at the latest trends of electricity demand in Italy. Turning to the next slide. As you can see from this chart, in the first 6 months of 2023, national demand was about 151 terawatt hours with a decrease of 5.3% on last year when national demand was 159 terawatt hours. The reduction in electricity demand in the first half of the year is mainly due to the increase in average [ in features ] in the winter period and the reduction in industrial consumption. In the first 6 months of 2023, renewable sources covered about 35% of a national demand, 3 percentage points higher than the last year. National net total production stood at 126 terawatt hours, about 10% lower than the same period in 2022. Despite that, let me highlight the increase in hydro and photovoltaic production, which grew by 18% and 4%, respectively, compared to the first 6 months of last year. I should add that in the first half of 2023, renewable sources covered about 42% of the national net total production. Now let's move to the main figures of the period. In the first 6 months of 2023, group revenue and EBITDA were up by 12% and 8%, respectively, on last year which means EUR 155 million and EUR 72 million higher than the first half of 2022. For the first time in Terna's history, EBITDA cross the record threshold of EUR 1 billion in the first 6 months of the year. We also reported a group net income of EUR 411 million, the highest amount ever with an increase of 3% on 2022. Group CapEx was EUR 831 million, recording a double-digit increase of 26% on the same period last year. Let me underline that this is a record-breaking level of CapEx for the first half of the year. This is proof of our ability on execution and confirms, once again, Terna's central role in the energy transition process. To support this acceleration at the end of June 2023, net debt stood at EUR 9.5 billion versus about EUR 8.6 billion at the 2022 year-end. Thanks to this solid set of results and our focus on execution, we are well on track on delivering our 2023 targets. So I can confirm that we will achieve all the guidance provided. Now allow me to invite the CFO, Agostino Scornajenchi, to give you a more detailed analysis of the half yearly figures of 2023.

Agostino Scornajenchi

executive
#4

Thank you very much, Giuse. And let's start with revenues analysis, moving to Page #8 of the presentation. Total revenues in the first half of 2023 increased by 11.6%, reaching EUR 1,485 million, up by EUR 155 million versus last year. The growth was attributable both, to regulated and nonregulated activities, which contributed for EUR 110 million and EUR 45 million, respectively. . Let's now go into the details of the revenues evolution moving to the next slide. Regulated revenues reached EUR 1,263 million, EUR 110 million better than last year. The increase was mainly driven by the investment acceleration made on the national grid and the higher output-based incentive effects related to the higher benefits generated for the system. Nonregulated revenues reached EUR 222 million, 25.3% higher than last year. Nonregulated growth was mainly attributable to the increase in revenues coming from Brugg and Tamini, and to the higher contribution of the Energy Solutions, mostly related to LT Group. International revenues were set to 0 in accordance with IFRS 5 accounting standard referred to assets held for sale. Now let's go through operating cost analysis at Page 10. As you can see in this chart, total operating costs stood at EUR 466 million, 21.4% higher than last year. Regarding regulated activities, the increase was mainly attributable to the insourcing of new competencies and increased level of activity. While no regulated activities have been impacted mainly by higher costs for the purchase of raw material and services related to Brugg and LT Group. Let me now analyze EBITDA, moving to the next slide. Due to the previously mentioned effects, first half 2023 group EBITDA reached EUR 1,019 million, EUR 72 million better than last year. The increase was mainly attributable to regulated activities, which contributed for about EUR 67 million more versus the same period of last year, showing an EBITDA of EUR 990 million in the first half of 2023. Let's now have a look to the lower part of the profit and losses. Turning to Slide #12. The Depreciation and amortization amounted to EUR 380 million. The increase versus last year was mainly due to the impact of new assets becoming operational in the period. As a consequence, EBIT reached EUR 639 million, 5% higher versus the first half '22. We reported net financial expenses at EUR 59 million. The increase versus last year was mainly due to the high level of inflation registered in the period and to the increase of the interest rates, partially mitigated by the increase in capitalized financial expenses and financial income on available liquidity. Taxes stood at EUR 169 million, EUR 8 million higher versus last year, essentially due to increased profit and to positive one-off item recorded in first half of '22. As a consequence, our tax rate stood at 29.1%. As a result, group net income reached EUR 411 million, 3.3% higher versus the same period of last year. Moving to CapEx analysis at Page 13. In the first half of 2023, total CapEx amounted to EUR 831 million, 26% higher than last year, confirming the solid acceleration aimed at enabling the energy transition process. Indeed, we invested about EUR 777 million in regulated activities. Among the main projects of the period, it's worth mentioning the Tyrrhenian Link, the Paternò-Pantano-Priolo installed Sicily, and investments in stabilization devices as synchronous compensators. Among CapEx categories, Development CapEx represented 50% of total regulated CapEx. The sales CapEx stood at 12%, while asset renewal and efficiency was 38%. Nonregulated and other CapEx stood at EUR 54 million. This includes capitalized financial charges and other investments. Regarding net debt and cash flow analysis shown on Page 14, net debt at the end of June 2023 was about EUR 9.5 billion, around EUR 900 million higher than 2022 year-end level, and mainly as a consequence of the investment in the period and of the reduction of net trade payables vis-a-vis the 2022 year-end. During the period, we generated an operating cash flow of EUR 750 million, which sustained the CapEx acceleration made on National Grid. Let's now make a deeper analysis of our debt profile. Moving to Page 15. In line with our cautious and proactive debt management approach, at the end of this first half, we registered a fixed over floating ratio or gross debt of about 89% and an average duration of about 5 years. Moreover, in April, Terna successfully launched a 6-year fixed rate single trans bond issue for a total amount of EUR 750 million, issued with a spread of 70 basis points over the [indiscernible], and an annual coupon of 3.625%. In addition, few days ago, Terna launched a 10-year fixed rate green bond addressed to institutional investors for a total amount of EUR 650 million. The issuance has been very successful in the market and the final spread of 90 basis points over the [indiscernible]. The green bond will have a duration of 10 years and will pay a coupon of [ 3.8775% ]. The net proceeds from the issue will be used to finance the company's eligible green projects defined in compliance with the Terna green-bond framework. Moreover, with the aim of confirming our leadership in the sustainable financial market, let me just recall that in May, Terna signed an ESG linked to revolving credit facility a total amount of EUR 1.8 billion. This transaction allows Terna to count on a liquidity appropriate to its current rating for strengthening the company's financial structure and demonstrate the group's strong commitment to the introduction of the model, which aims to reinforce sustainability at a strategic level for creating value for all its stakeholders. Thank you very much for your attention. Now before starting the Q&A session, let me leave the floor to Giuse for her closing remarks. Please, Giuse.

Giuseppina Di Foggia

executive
#5

Thank you, Agostino. So having seen the strong set of results for the period, let me conclude this presentation with some closing remarks. First of all, Terna will continue leading the energy transition process by providing the state-of-the-art services and ensuring security of supply and efficiency for end users. As stated in the presentation, despite the extremely challenging scenario and the significant investments required to meet the needs of the system, Terna continues to preserve a solid and sustainable capital structure as well as maintaining a low risk profile. This is our commitment also for the future. In addition, Terna will carry on guaranteeing value creation for our stakeholders focusing on the execution of the actions foreseen by our industrial plan. Sustainability is a fundamental part of our business model. Our strategy will ensure we maintain a high-quality standard of service in a system characterized by increasing complexity. Our strategy will also keep us on course to reach a national and international decarbonization targets. Sustainability is not only what we do, but also how we do it. It is part of our way to manage business from the circular economy to dialogue with the local community from science-based decarbonization targets to diversity and inclusion initiatives. This is the way we want to ensure a common sustainable growth path to all Terna stakeholders. Now before moving to the Q&A session, let me say that I'm sure our strong commitment and enthusiasm will guide us towards future growth and allow us to face all future challenges. And we are already working on the new plan that we expect to present by the first quarter of 2024. Thank you for your attention. We are now ready for the Q&A session.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#6

We received a strong set of questions. For the sake of time, we have grouped some of them together. We will begin with a series of questions for the CEO, then we will move on further questions for CFO. So Giuse, the first group of questions are related to the CapEx plan. Any expectation of further increase?

Giuseppina Di Foggia

executive
#7

We are well on track with the execution of our CapEx plan, and we are committed to maintaining our strategic road map towards the energy transition. Indeed, last March, we presented the new national development plan with more than EUR 21 billion of investments expected in the next 10 years. And we are focused on execution any other consideration about our CapEx plan will be part of the discussion of the new business plan that we foresee to present by the first quarter of 2024.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#8

Thank you, Giuse. Regarding dividend policy, are you [indiscernible] any change?

Giuseppina Di Foggia

executive
#9

Well, our dividend policy is fully sustainable and is aimed at maintaining the right balance between fair shareholder remuneration and the sustainability of the investment plan. I believe that each guarantee is constant and predictable growth as well as full visibility over the planned period. As I mentioned before, any other consideration will be part of the discussion of the new business plan in -- by the first quarter of 2024.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#10

About international strategy, we can expect any updates?

Giuseppina Di Foggia

executive
#11

The consolidation of LatAm activities will allow Terna to maximize the value of the international portfolio, optimizing the group's risk return profile. At the same time, we will continue to scout for other opportunities. This may also be with the partnership and will be selected ensuring a low-risk profile and linked capital absorption, leveraging the know-how developed by Terna.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#12

Thank you. We are also receiving some questions about potential interest in new geographies for international development.

Giuseppina Di Foggia

executive
#13

Well, our focus will be addressed on those markets with high growth profile and low country risk. We will take a gradual approach offering and leveraging our know-how in the design and operation of infrastructures.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#14

We are receiving also a questions about WACC update. If you can give us a comment about that.

Giuseppina Di Foggia

executive
#15

They allowed -- the work will be subject to an evolution to verify if the threshold foreseen by the trigger mechanism is met or not. The observation period for the main macroeconomic variables in the formula will close at the end of September. Since the calculation of the parameters and the potential review is still subject to the evolution of the main variables in the coming months. For the time being, we cannot provide you with precise guidance on the expected WACC final value for 2024. I can only tell you that an update they allow the return being slightly given the level at which rates are today. It's too early to comment about 2025 allowed WACC level.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#16

We received also some question related to the TotEx framework. Any update on that? What's your view?

Giuseppina Di Foggia

executive
#17

We strongly believe that the introduction of TotEx would be consistent with the part already undertaken towards an output-based approach. The framework will be focused on targets and benefits for the system with the rewards linked to outcomes. In the TotEx approach, we see an opportunity to create further value for the electricity system and the shareholders. It could promote an even higher overall efficiency through new output-based regulatory measures, ensuring benefits for the system. We are fully committed to TotEx and satisfied about the progress made with the resolutions on output-based incentives.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#18

Regarding output-based incentives. Do you think that the level of output-based is sustainable?

Giuseppina Di Foggia

executive
#19

The current framework rewards Terna for the benefits we are able to guarantee to the system. This is mainly through the reduction of ancillary services market cost and the reduction of a bottleneck among and within market zones. I believe that our collaborative relationship with the regulator will continue with the common objective to enable the energy transition in Italy always ensuring the security of supply and efficiency for end users. In this regard, I think that the reliable track record the regulator has always shown, and its decisions will also be reflected in the design of output-based incentives.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#20

We received also questions on procurement and authorization. Could you provide details on project execution?

Giuseppina Di Foggia

executive
#21

Yes. Once again, I underline our CapEx plan is solid and safe, and our projects are well on track. Regarding procurement, despite the challenging scenario, potential shortages of raw materials do not represent a risk for Terna. So I can say that we are on the right path regarding the authorization process, construction activities and procurement in line with the milestone set in the updated industrial plan.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#22

And about renewables. Any updates on renewables installation rate in Italy?

Giuseppina Di Foggia

executive
#23

Until 2021, the installation rate was around 1 gigawatt yearly, while in 2022, around 3 gigawatts have been installed. Diesel growth in the pace of installations has also been confirmed in the first month of 2023. In fact, since the beginning of the year, about 2.5 gigawatts of new renewable capacity have been installed. The acceleration is ongoing, and we need to see a range of coordinated and integrated actions to stay on track.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#24

Yes. And about that, which are the necessary measure to accelerate renewable development?

Giuseppina Di Foggia

executive
#25

We need to further speed up the installation rate of renewable energy sources to achieve the decarbonization target foreseen by the [indiscernible] scenario. The time required for a permit needs to be renewed and the profitability should be more visible.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#26

And some question about storage. Are there any news about this development, could Terna be [indiscernible]?

Giuseppina Di Foggia

executive
#27

Despite its pivotal role in the energy system, storage capacity has not grown significantly in recent years, mainly due to the lack of a proper investment signals from the energy markets. Our plan does not include any investment related to storage projects. Storage should be developed through market actions, and Terna cannot be directly involved. We strongly reiterate the importance of storage development for the electricity system, and we will actively monitor its evolution.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#28

Thank you, Giuse. Last question for you. There is a question regarding field and grow balance in Terna equity story. What's your view about that?

Giuseppina Di Foggia

executive
#29

We are fully committed to ensuring a strong growth for the future, to enhance the value creation for our shareholders. The Terna investment proposition is based on a balanced combination of growth and value, CapEx and shareholder returns. We think that this is the most appropriate way to [ align ] Terna's investment case, including a well-balanced opportunity of yield and growth.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#30

So now let's move to the question for the CFO. The first one, how many output-based incentives have you accounted in the first half, and is it confirmed the full year contribution?

Agostino Scornajenchi

executive
#31

Yes. Thank you, Omar. The output-based incentives that we have recognized in the first half '23 are in the region of EUR 130 million or less. They are related to dispatching services and market efficiency incentives for EUR 100 million and other items connected to cost savings and benefits on interzonal incentives connected to the creation of additional transport capacity among the different pricing so for the remaining value. For the full year 2023 let me say what I already said in the previous presentation, in the first quarter, we assume a general amount of output base in the region of EUR 300 million, mainly related to the expansion services for market efficiency incentives. For the remaining part of the business plan, at the moment, we expect the incentives contribution to continue in coherence with the performance I just described.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#32

And what about the net debt evolution in second half of this year and '24?

Agostino Scornajenchi

executive
#33

Well, as you know, we are not going to provide any specific guidance for year-end '23 and '24. Let me say that our net debt will reflect the guidance that we have provided on CapEx and earnings per share and also on the level of working capital that we do expect for the end of '23. You have to remember that the end of '22, with benefit of a positive cash flow effect deriving from some working capital fluctuation related to some pass-through cash items that remain in our focus, and we'll be progressively resorbed during the year '23.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#34

Thank you for the comment, Agostino. Which is the cost of debt in the first half '23 and, if possible, the full year '23 expected cost of debt?

Agostino Scornajenchi

executive
#35

As of today, as a consequence of the increase in the interest rates, we are slightly below 2%. You remember that the regional cost of debt that we have communicated at the moment of the business plan presentation was 1.3%. This figure will increase, of course. And we do expect that at the end of '23, we should land somewhere around 2.5%, reflecting the interest rates increase, observed and expected. You have heard the recent decision taken by the authorities on that. And this will remain associated with our growing CapEx plan for the company.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#36

Thank you. We received a question about [indiscernible]. Could you update us on the funds and the impact on Terna?

Agostino Scornajenchi

executive
#37

Well, let me divide the answer in two parts. The first one is that last December, with respect to the ecological transition process, sustainability, resilience of the electric infrastructure, the Italian government approved the financing of nine projects for a total investment value of EUR 150 million that we have proposed to increase the resilience of a portion of our [indiscernible] [ 1,700 ] kilometers. We confirm that those projects will be completed by the end of June '26, that is the deadline expected for the P&L. There is also -- sorry, let me conclude. There is also an ongoing discussion between Terna and the Italian government for the definition of another subset of projects that could ensure those objectives. In particular, those projects have the purpose of increasing the transfer capacity across different market zones guaranteeing digitalization of the system, promoting energy exchanges between different countries and ensuring safety of interconnected energy system. We are working on the set of objectives, and we will communicate it as soon as it will be possible.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#38

Thank you. About renewables, could you please give us an update on grid connection request?

Agostino Scornajenchi

executive
#39

Well, Italy has set an ambitious target for the penetration of renewables. The capacity will have to grow at least 65, 70 gigawatts within the framework of the European Union Green Deal in the next year, and this is an extremely important challenge. What we have seen was a huge increase of grid connection requests, especially from solar and wind future installation. . We can remember that at the end of June, the number of those renewable connection increased by more than 100% compared to the end of '21. As of today, the total level of connection requested coming from renewables, including storage, solar, wind onshore, wind offshore, hydro, biomass, geothermic was not so far from 400 gigawatt at the end of June 2023.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#40

Thank you. Coming back to net debt. When do you expect to complete working capital absorption?

Agostino Scornajenchi

executive
#41

Well, as said before, we had some advantage at the end of '22 from some known pass-through items that remain in our pocket. There was some delay from the energy authority in issuing some resolution to give us the possibility to [indiscernible] some money to the market operators. And this will be reabsorbed in the coming months. More in general, the first half '23, you have seen a decrease of about EUR 370 million compared to the end of '22. This result, of course, had a negative impact on our net financial debt, but is quite physiological given that there is a slight reduction in net trade payables that is due to the increase in capital expenditure during the last part of the previous year. You know that in the second part of the year, we accumulate a lot of investments. That need to be paid on the first part of the next year. Similar increase, we are in the region of EUR 150 million in net receivables resulting from regulated activities that are connected with the incentives mechanism revenues that we have accounted last year. This will be paid only after a specific period of liquidation in line with the resolution that introduced such specific incentives starting from the end of '22 and other marginal impacts on other net liabilities, primarily due to decreasing guaranteed deposits and other minor items.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#42

Thank you, Agostino. And operating, what measures are you taking into consideration to maintain the current rating, also in the future?

Agostino Scornajenchi

executive
#43

Well, this is something that we have discussed several times. Let me confirm that. We strongly believe that the current rating reflects the strengthness of the group and its financial solidity. Of course, we have a significant capital increase that has been already made, and something that will continue in the future. In this challenging scenario, the company is committed to maintain the strong financial structure during the plan, also taking actions on the debt side as we did in the past when we decide for an hybrid that sustained our ratings and our capital structure. Just a general reminder, you know that according with the Standard & Poor and Moody's methodology, the rating of Terna is still one notch above the [indiscernible] for the Italian Republic. And in case of change in the rating of the Italian Republic, this will have, of course, an impact on Terna.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#44

Thank you for comments, Agostino. And about [ PF ], can you share us your view on the new PF draft, what are the impacts on Terna, [indiscernible] on the 10-year development plan?

Agostino Scornajenchi

executive
#45

You know that as required by the European regulation, the Italian government decided for an update of its national and climate energy plan, submitted to the European Commission at the end of June. This update reflects the new European targets, namely the Fit for 55 package that we already discussed. And this, of course, will generate an increase of the needs of the system to accelerate and developing renewable and on our side and accelerate the realization of grids. Implications are clear. This update target share 65% of renewable energy and electricity consumption, that is a lot. And this will be mainly achieved by a strong growth of wind and solar capacity that will have to reach more than 100 gigawatts in 2030. The wind capacity will have to increase by 57%. That was the [indiscernible] at December '21 and the solar capacity was more of 16 gigawatt respect the end of '21.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#46

Thank you, Agostino. Question about balance sheet structure. Do you believe that you have enough balance sheet headroom to maintain this level of investments in the next year to come? Or do you need to reconsider your balance sheet structure?

Agostino Scornajenchi

executive
#47

Sure, Omar. Let me confirm what I just said. Of course, we have to manage a significant CapEx increase in order to fulfill with the increasing needs of the system and to support the energy transition. This, of course, will drive to an increase of our financial leverage. However, as we already communicated during the presentation of our business plan, we are still committed to maintaining a strong financial structure during the plan, also through actions on the debt side. In this regard, let me remember again, that we issued our first hybrid bond in February '22 in order to sustain and support our capital structure. We cannot exclude that we will do that again.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#48

Thank you, Agostino. Come back to regulation, which will be your next step about OpEx framework.?

Agostino Scornajenchi

executive
#49

Well, about OpEx, we are in the middle of our transition period, we do expect, let me say, a first application of TotEx [ ROS ] methodology in a sort of, let me say, preliminary approach and the long-term approach and the final integral approach that will take place in the long term. Today, we are in the middle of the discussion with ARERA with our regulator. ARERA issued two resolutions. The first one related to the preliminary approach and the second one for the final long-term application that details are expected by year-end. Today, we cannot say something more. Let me confirm that, as usual, we do expect the TotEx application, we represent more an opportunity than a risk for us. Given that the moment the authority will provide the premium will provide value to our ability to create value for the system to create value for the final user. We will be more than happy to have participation of share of those benefits in our profit and losses. So more challenging, more complicated, but we are sure that it will represent an opportunity for us.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#50

Thank you, Agostino. We received also a specific question on [indiscernible]. Is the [indiscernible] project including your 10-year development plan?

Agostino Scornajenchi

executive
#51

Yes, it is. It is. You know that in order to support the increase of the needs of the electricity system of the future connected with the increase of renewal that we have for the coming years, as we did already today, we also change, let me say, a change of approach also from a technological perspective. This is why we have defined the so-called hybrid projects, taking into account different new drivers. First one is start synergies and explore synergies with existing assets, modernizing the existing 220 kV and 380 kV power lines. We had limited intervention on existing lines and areas, but with different technologies in order to increase our transport capacity. There are a lot of areas in the country that are now not used or they're close to being dismiss, and we will like to work. On this brownfield sites, in order to not create any additional impact on the environment, but let me say, keep industries where they are already. Of course, we have to reinforce network security and robustness and also we need to have a modular approach in the different projects. Two, as communicated to the market last March, the new development plan provides this either with approach with the launch of different and innovative project for a total amount of EUR 11 billion out of the more EUR 20 billion for the total size of the plan, to achieve the targets of the future with an increase of -- and the further acceleration of our investments.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#52

Thank you, Agostino. Last question for you about operating expenses. You expect some recovery in recent OpEx increase or at least the [indiscernible] OpEx adjustment in the next regulatory period?

Agostino Scornajenchi

executive
#53

Yes. During the first half of '23, we have registered an increase in the labor cost. We have also registered an increase in external costs due to increased activities and also new initiatives also communication activities as the communication campaign that was -- the broadcast communication campaign that was concluded 2 months ago. In the long term, we do expect that all this cost increase will be recovered in the tariff guaranteed by the regulator.

Omar Al Bayaty

executive
#54

Thank you. There are no more questions.

Giuseppina Di Foggia

executive
#55

Thank you. Thank you very much for your time today and for taking part in this call. It has been a pleasure to meet you.

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