The Necessity Retail REIT, Inc. (GNL) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
May 24, 2023
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorGood morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. This call is being webcast on the Investor Relations sections of GNL and RTL's websites at www.necessityretailreit.com and globalnetlease.com. Joining me today on the call to discuss the exciting transaction are Michael Weil, President and Chief Executive Officer at Necessity Retail REIT, and Jim Nelson, CEO at Global Net Lease. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. The following information contains forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties. Should one or more of these risks or uncertainties materialize, actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements. We refer you all to each company's respective SEC filings, including the annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2022, filed in February 2023, and all other filings with the SEC after that date, and contained in the presentation regarding the transaction posted to the Investors Relations section of GNL's website for additional risks and for a more detailed discussion of the risk factors that could cause these differences or otherwise impact our business. Any forward-looking statements provided during this conference call are only made as of the date of this call. As stated in SEC filings, GNL and RTL disclaims any intent or obligation to update or revise these forward-looking statements except required by law. Also during today's call, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe can be useful in evaluating the company's financial performance. These measures should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute to our financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliations of these measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are available in the Transaction presentation posted to the Investor Relations section of GNL's website. Please refer to the recent earnings releases for more information about what we consider to be implied investment-grade tenants, a term we may reference on throughout today's call. GNL and RTL also intend to file with the SEC a joint prospectus and proxy statement regarding the proposed transaction and investors are urged to read this document when it becomes available, because it will contain important information about the proposed transaction. I'll now turn the call over to Michael Weil.
Edward Weil
executiveGreat. Thank you, operator, and good morning, everybody. I'm happy to be joined today by Jim Nelson, the co-CEO of what will be the merged GNL and also the CFO, Chris Masterson. Many of you know us in our current roles, and frankly, we're very excited about the announcement of this merger and coming together. The merged GNL will be the third largest publicly traded net lease REIT with a global presence. And one of the things that we're very excited about is just the overall scale of the company, the diversification, and frankly, a number of things that I plan on talking about on today's call and probably get into with the Q&A. I hope you have all had a chance to read the press release that was filed last night as well as the investor deck. There's a lot of pertinent details in both, and if you haven't had a chance, I do hope you will look through the decks as well. Let me get started. First of all, we announced a transaction, a stock for stock merger. GNL will be acquiring RTL. The RTL shareholders will receive 0.670 shares of GNL and as I mentioned earlier, this is going to be a very significant publicly traded net lease REIT with exposure of course not only in North America, but in Europe as well. The increase in size, scale, and overall prominence, this will be a $9.6 billion asset portfolio. The company will have over 1,350 individual properties, and we'll talk a little bit about some of the diversification that comes from that. We think about it in terms of geography, asset type, tenant, and industry. We have mitigated concentration risks. The top 10 tenants in the portfolio represent less than 20% of the overall straight-line rent, and our largest tenant in the portfolio, who is FedEx, represents 2.7% of overall straight-line rent. As we think also of the overall portfolio, 55% of the overall portfolio is investment-grade or implied investment grade rated. So again, from a credit standpoint, we think that the 2 companies coming together really adds a lot. For the shareholders, which of course they're at the forefront of our thoughts, we anticipate this to be 9% accretive compared to GNL's Q1 2023 AFFO per share, and that accretion comes from a number of things. It comes from the scale and it also comes from the internalization of management, which I'll discuss in just a few minutes. Net debt-to-EBITDA of the pro forma company is reduced to 7.6x, which I think is a very important starting point for both companies as the overall balance sheet is stronger of the merged company and really gives us a great foundation to continue to operate and grow the company. For dividend coverage, we expect an 85% payout ratio of the dividend that the Board anticipates to be setting at a $1.42 per share at time of closing, and that's been reviewed and based on the implied earnings of the overall portfolio. One of the things that is exciting about that is, for the existing RTL shareholders that will become GNL shareholders, that's going to represent a 12% increase in overall dividend for those shareholders that become GNL shareholders, and then just overall for the GNL shareholders. aA transaction that has alignment across the board, 9% accretion, I think is very meaningful and shows the value of these 2 companies coming together, and then when we take into effect the benefit of internalizing management. In this transaction, we will eliminate all management fees at closing. The employees that have currently been running both RTL and GNL will be internalized. They will come over and become employees of GNL. There will be no contracts between the former advisor and GNL. It will be a completely self-sufficient, internalized management structure that we're very excited about because of the familiarity and the skills of the employees that will be running GNL on a day-to-day basis. It will reduce operating expenses significantly. It will increase cash flow, which will be used for a number of things, everything from debt repayment, acquisitions, further potential increase in dividend coverage. And we looked, frankly, at the industry, and we have seen that internally managed peers traded about 14.3x AFFO compared to about 7.1x for externally managed net lease REITs. So again, I think that's just another reason that we really look to the benefits of this transaction. And we anticipate annual savings of $75 million through the internalization and merger synergies. From a corporate governance standpoint, the Board has taken the steps to enhance corporate governance. The decisions have been made to opt out of MUTA, something that I think from a governance standpoint, the market has inquired about. We will declassify the board at closing. And the company stockholder rights plan, many of you refer to that as a poison pill, will also be repealed. So very much an alignment -- further alignment between shareholders and the company. Before I stop for Q&A, or to see if Jim has anything that he'd like to add, as stated in the press release, there is a go-shop. RTL has a 30-day go-shop and that is being handled by their financial advisor, Truist, who represented RTL in this transaction. And on the GNL side, Bank of Montreal was the financial advisor. So Jim, Chris, before we go to Q&A, anything that you guys would like to add?
James Nelson
executiveYes, let me just say a couple of things, and thank you, Mike. First of all, I'm really looking forward to working with Mike and Chris. I mean, we've got 6.5 years already running this company and it's going to be a seamless transition, which is beautiful. And the scale will be something that's very, very exciting and important for GNL and the reduced expenses and internalization of management is really terrific. So, Mike covered a lot of the net takeaways, the value-add here, and I just want to emphasize that we at the company are really excited about this. So thank you, Mike.
Edward Weil
executiveThanks, Jim. Chris, anything that you'd like to add or should we open up for Q&A?
Christopher Masterson
executiveWe can open up for Q&A.
Edward Weil
executiveAll right.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Bryan Maher with B. Riley Securities.
Bryan Maher
analystJust a few for me this morning. Very interesting transaction. Can you share with us what prompted the merger at this particular time?
Edward Weil
executiveThere were a couple of things that were really in our thoughts here. One, we just thought the combination made such great sense from a overall scale. And when the special committees were formed and they started to evaluate this, the information that they were provided by their financial advisors with the accretion, the dividend increase for the RTL shareholders, the overall value creation for the GNL shareholders, it just came to be very clear that this was going to be at almost $10 billion, a very meaningful transaction in creating a powerful net lease REIT that would benefit from scale. And then the conversations around internalization, just as an example, when we talked about internally managed peers trading at 14x AFFO and externally advised companies at 7x, we saw it as a good opportunity to really let the company find its true value with this scale. And so it -- timing just kind of happened naturally.
Bryan Maher
analystAnd then other than the internalization cost, the fee cost, what other costs are you expecting to merge the 2 companies together? Like how meaningful would that be?
Edward Weil
executiveThe overall cost to merge the 2 companies will be very, very low. There will be details provided in the proxy when that is filed. Obviously, that's something that's -- that the work is already starting on. But because the 2 companies are familiar with one another coming from the common platform, internalization will be the driver. And in that internalization, GNL is going to be moving into fully furnished offices that already exist. There's not a need for employees to be hired, so the G&A that's been calculated and published in the press release and the decks takes that all into account. And when we talk about the 9% accretion in the overall deal, that factors in all costs. So it is a very positive overall transaction for the merged GNL.
Bryan Maher
analystOkay. One more for me and then I'll hop back into the queue and let the others go. The $1.42 dividend, I think, you said it was an 85% payout ratio on AFFO. I think the peers are at -- I don't know, I think in the deck I saw 75%. What gives you comfort with that 85% payout ratio and how comfortable should be the shareholders that there won't be a subsequent dividend cut in the next couple of years?
Edward Weil
executiveWell, I always caveat at, Bryan, by saying dividend policy is set by the Board, and management is very comfortable with where the Board came out at a $1.42 and the 85% coverage ratio. The pro forma company has taken into account a steady state merger between GNL and RTL. The $1.42 to us feels that it is the right sized dividend and 85% ratio will generate retained earnings that will be valuable to the company overall. And then when we think about the potential growth in the portfolio, everything from acquisitions, lease up, some strategic dispositions that occur, the Board will certainly have the ability over time to evaluate -- further improving the coverage ratio, but at 85% we feel that it is a very solid starting coverage ratio and a $1.42 is a justified dividend, so we were completely comfortable with the Board's decision on that reset.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Mitch Germain with JMP Securities.
Mitch Germain
analystSo, Michael, in conjunction with closing, is it the understanding that you and Chris are going to resign from any other roles that you hold for any other reach that are in the AR Global organization?
Edward Weil
executiveYes. That is absolute and it's been determined already.
Mitch Germain
analystHow should I think about the growth prospects going forward? Obviously, RTL is facing some challenges on the tenant side with some bankruptcies. It does have some -- a pretty good leasing pipeline though. And then on the GNL side, obviously, you've got some office exposure. So how do I think about kind of your ability to grow earnings on a fairly steady consistent basis?
Edward Weil
executiveI think -- on the RTL side, I think your concerns are a little bit overstated. The portfolio has continued to show the ability to internally grow through lease up, et cetera. The other thing I would just point out is with the merged company, the further diversification of the portfolio adds a great level of additional safety, no tenant over 3%. So foundationally, we're very stable. Growth is an important aspect of running this company and that's something that we anticipate coming with more details on, in the future, as we get closer to a closing. What we wanted to do today was give the market a very clear picture of what day 1 merged GNL look like. And we're talking about -- I know, I've said it several times, and I guess I am intentionally trying to repeat it, but the proposed transaction is 9% accretive day 1, just from the combination of the portfolio, the known synergies from internalization, the removal of duplicate -- duplicative professional services like audit, et cetera. So, the company is really well positioned, I think, for continued growth, and we will be very eager to evaluate different opportunities to further grow through accretive acquisitions. There's a lot to come in this announcement. Obviously, this is day 1, but we're starting from such an exciting point. As you mentioned, RTL continues to perform at a very high level with lease up, as Jim and Chris can talk to. GNL continues to be very stable and they've had terrific performance with renewals and growth from that aspect. So there are a number of levers that we're excited to really develop and operate this company, so that it will have growth, not just in portfolio, but in earnings and AFFO.
Mitch Germain
analystYou talked about some of the cost synergies, right? So $54 million seems to be pretty straightforward on the external advisement and property management side, but how should we think about the additional $21 million? That does seem a lot to think about when you consider audit, maybe some legal, some public filing fees. Like what comprises that and how should $21 million play out in terms of the realization of how quickly you can realize those synergies?
Edward Weil
executiveThat additional roughly $20 million we project will be realized within the first year of the merger and it will be detailed in the proxy. The $75 million of annual savings that we've highlighted have been reviewed and vetted and Jim, Chris, and I are very confident, as you said, the majority of that comes from internalization. So, again, high level of confidence. There are not -- it's not a complicated synergies map to achieve these goals. So the $75 million is where we are comfortable and highly confident in achieving.
Mitch Germain
analystLast one for me. I know that you mentioned the go-shop, right? I think it's 30 days or so that you were handling, but I mean, was RTL for sale? Or was this just the situation that you've considered strategically today, and you'll see if the market has kind of any potential bids going forward? I mean, how should I consider how this process played out?
Edward Weil
executiveWell, again, Mitch, I'm going to rely on the details that will be published in the proxy for that, because this was handled -- both sides of this transaction were handled by special committees of the Board of the Independent Directors that I was not a part of. So the proxy will detail how this came about. And -- but I do think that a go-shop is a -- something that many deals have. It's a 30-day opportunity to see if there's a topper out there. And Truist is certainly capable of handling that process and we look forward to the outcome.
Mitch Germain
analystAnd is there a term fee if there is a higher bid? I didn't see that in the documents.
Edward Weil
executiveI didn't hear the beginning of your question. I apologize.
Mitch Germain
analystIs there some sort of fee that we need to consider if there's another bid?
Edward Weil
executiveI will have to confirm if that's been released yet. But I'm -- the details are all going to be provided, Mitch. I just don't want to get ahead of public disclosure.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Todd Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets.
Todd Thomas
analystYes. A couple of questions. I guess, first, I just wanted to follow-up on the growth and the 9% accretion that you outlined at closing. Is that just related to the internalization transaction and corporate G&A synergies? Or does that also include assumptions around operations, leasing? You've detailed and discussed the Mountain Express bankruptcy a little bit and things of that nature?
Edward Weil
executiveSo Todd, that 9% accretion takes into account, obviously, the synergies -- the $75 million of synergies. It also takes into account the known status of both the RTL and the GNL portfolios come together. It didn't -- there's no -- at this point in what's been publicly disclosed, there are no assumptions about growth other than what's in the company's existing pipelines.
Todd Thomas
analystAnd then can you discuss the internalization fee, the $325 million and $50 million amounts? A little bit of color on how that valuation was arrived at? And maybe for Chris, within the context around the pro forma 4Q estimate, how many shares are you assuming are outstanding at closing for that calculation?
Edward Weil
executiveChris, do you want to respond or do you want me to start?
Christopher Masterson
executiveYes, you could start. I'm just pulling the share information to make sure we put that out there.
Edward Weil
executiveOkay. Todd, I'm sorry, would you just restart your question for me? And I'll -- and Chris will jump in.
Todd Thomas
analystYes. I just wanted to see if you could provide a little bit of color on how those amounts were arrived at in terms of the valuation for the internalization transaction?
Edward Weil
executiveI will. So first of all, Todd, the internalization amounts were negotiated. They will be detailed in the proxy. So I'm not privy to releasing the details of that at the moment, but there were -- each company, GNL and RTL had a advisory contract between AR Global and the REIT itself. And that was negotiated as part of the transaction, as was property management, which was another existing contractual arrangement. What the ultimate goal of the company GNL was, we wanted full internalization and separation, not for any other reason other than we wanted to be a clearly independent company operating our own portfolio, making our own contractual arrangements for anything that might be needed. But part of the employee group that will be coming over includes a full European asset management team, a U.S. asset management team. So the company will be able to run its own property management and asset management platforms. So -- but they were fully and heavily negotiated. And I think the acceptance of stock by AR Global as the majority currency in the internalization shows great alignment and belief in the announced transaction. And we were excited to see that structured the way it was. And we think AR Global did a great job as the external advisor. But we're excited to be fully internalized and operating the portfolio as -- in the same way that a lot of our internally managed peers are currently doing as well.
Christopher Masterson
executiveAnd just to jump in about the shares. So about -- we have not disclosed the number of shares as part of the internalization component. But for the RTL stockholders, it's 0.670 shares of GNL that they received. And there was about 134 million of shares outstanding as of the quarter end. So that's roughly about 90 million related to RTL.
Todd Thomas
analystAnd then just back to the $21 million of merger synergy. So -- just so I understand, you're expecting that to be fully realized within the first year of closing? I just wanted to make sure, because it sounds like there could be some leases or technology or vendor contracts and things of that nature. But you're anticipating the full $21 million to be realized in the run rate within 12 months of closing?
Christopher Masterson
executiveThat is correct.
Todd Thomas
analystAnd then just one more. As we kind of think about the combined company going forward, do you plan to begin providing guidance as we think about 2024, whether full year '24 AFFO guidance, same-store growth and just more detail around the portfolio and assumptions going forward?
Edward Weil
executiveFinal decisions haven't been made, but I think you can tell by what we've published regarding the merger and the accretion and things like that. I would -- I believe that yes, we will be providing some guidance.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of John Massocca with Ladenburg Thalmann.
John Massocca
analystSo I think going back to the internalization fee, can you just walk us through the math for the $325 million equity component? I mean, is that based on shares as of yesterday's close or heading into the merger? Just kind of -- any kind of detail as to how we should think about the share count number that's going to come out of that portion of the internalization fee?
Edward Weil
executiveI'm going to have to ask that we wait until the proxy is filed. That will all be part of the disclosure. It's just not out yet.
John Massocca
analystAnd then maybe kind of bigger picture, you're going to have kind of these 3 property type buckets: the retail side of things, the office and the industrial. Are you going to focus as you look to grow on any one particular property type or dispose off any one particular property type, or is it going to continue to kind of have these 3 verticals as you go forward?
Edward Weil
executiveWell, as we think about the 3 verticals, we think that they all have very valuable qualities. And with our office, the office is single tenant, mission critical corporate headquarters. So unlike a lot of the conversations we hear about the struggles of different cities and their multi-tenant office portfolios, these corporate office complexes continue to be typically at 100% occupancy with activity throughout every day -- every business day. So the portfolio complements itself. We look at some of the peer set. We talked about being one of the 3 largest net lease REITs with global exposure and fourth largest overall net lease. And when you look at that whole range of companies, they have very similar exposure, retail, office, industrial. We will continue to see different markets and different buying opportunities, different cycles, et cetera. And that will -- that's what Jim and I and the acquisition teams will continue to evaluate as we look at the portfolio and where we have different opportunities to grow.
John Massocca
analystAnd then it's kind of implied a little bit in your answer to Mitch's question, but I just want to make sure I'm thinking about this right. The $54 million of synergies that comes from the internalization, that should be relatively instant upon closing of the merger, correct?
Edward Weil
executiveCorrect.
John Massocca
analystAnd then one last one. And I know this may come with the SEC filings, but any thoughts on timing for the shareholder votes for both RTL and GNL shareholders?
Edward Weil
executiveThat will all be announced. It's being worked on. We were really glad to get this out into the market last night, host today's initial call. You'll be seeing, as is customary in a transaction like this, further updates and dates, et cetera. So that will be announced shortly.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Michael Gorman with BTIG.
Michael Gorman
analystYes. Just wanted to start on the accretion side, if we could, and just kind of checking my math here. First quarter, GNL did about $0.38 a share in AFFO, so 9% accretion would be a little over $0.03 a share. Annualize that, that's $0.13 to $0.14 a share, with a few assumptions, and I know you're not disclosing how you're getting to the $325 million in stock, but just kind of a few basic assumptions there? You can get to like 225 million of shares. So if I average that out, that's like $30 million to $31 million of total accretion, which is less than 50% of the cost savings that you've actually laid out for the deal. So I'm just trying to figure out where the gap is between -- either what's going wrong with my math there, or where the gap is between the $75 million in cost savings and the $30 million to $31 million of accretion that's implied by the transaction?
Edward Weil
executiveI think you're making some assumptions or not making some assumptions because of what has to still be released, which will be in the proxy. So if I can, what I'd like to do is after the call, Chris and I will catch up, and Jim, of course, and let us see what we can get back to you with, that is publicly released now versus what's going to come in the further releases of the proxy.
Michael Gorman
analystOkay, right, because the only unknown in there is the share count associated with the break fee, right? That's the only unknown piece.
Edward Weil
executiveYes. What I can tell you is the 9% accretion that has been announced as part of the pro forma company is based on the first quarter '23 GNL results, as you said. It's been fully analyzed and that is what we're expecting upon closure of the transaction. So there's just probably some things that will come in the further release that you aren't able to take into account right now.
Michael Gorman
analystThat would be helpful, because like I said, that's over like 50% leakage on the synergy side. Another question from the presentation, and maybe for Chris, I -- you mentioned that obviously the line of credit wouldn't be assumed, which I think makes sense, that you'd be having a conversation with your lenders about, I guess, expending and reworking your line of credit as a result. So I guess 2 questions. One is, have you started those conversations already, just kind of given the overall credit environment? And then 2, I think it mentions drawing $818 million. I'm just curious where that figure came -- comes from, because as of 1Q, I think RTL had about $450 million outstanding on its line of credit and so even if you add in the cash portion of the internalization fee, that's still about $320 million higher than would be implied. So I'm just kind of curious where that $800 million plus draw comes from?
Christopher Masterson
executiveWell, there's also been draws post Q1 related to [ replacements ] in the U.K. and Germany, included in that balance.
Michael Gorman
analystSo -- I'm sorry, so the $800 million in additional accordion draw would not all be associated with the transaction?
Christopher Masterson
executiveSo that's correct. The additional about $800 million -- sorry, I'm just pulling up the number. Give me one second. Sorry, it has to do with some refinancing also.
James Nelson
executiveSo, remember, Michael, we've talked to you about the U.K, facility and refinancing that potentially on the credit line. So there are some re-financings in that number.
Michael Gorman
analystI -- I'm just -- I was just curious because the footnote mentioned just the repayment of the RTL credit facility and the internalization. That's why I was a little bit confused on that part.
Edward Weil
executivePart of it is because the European piece has already been done. So that leaves room under the credit facility with the accordion for the RTL payoff of their credit facility. And as Jim and Chris and I have talked about, we will look at the credit facility. We think that there is a great opportunity over time, whether it's a bond issuance. There are a number of different things that we will be able to do. But in the short interim period, the credit facility is going to be available through the accordion and will be in good shape. We don't need a bridge for this transaction. It's very straightforward for what the company is capable of transacting on.
Michael Gorman
analystAnd then just 2 technical ones for me, I guess. One was, what's the genesis or the reasoning behind the changing of the charter to the 8.9% threshold? And then can you just remind us what the shareholder vote threshold is for approval of the transaction on both the RTL and the GNL sides?
Edward Weil
executiveI'm going to get that for you in just a second. I'm asking our General Counsel.
Michael Gorman
analystAnd then I guess -- sorry, just one more as we're doing that. Just to confirm, I assume it is, but between now and the estimated close, there aren't any additional kind of internalization fees that are being paid on the RTL side, right? The $325 million plus the $50 million is the fully loaded internalization costs across the 2 organizations?
Edward Weil
executiveCorrect. So to your earlier question, RTL needs majority of shares outstanding, and GNL needs majority of shares cast at the meeting.
Michael Gorman
analystAnd -- just one last one, sorry. I know, you're looking to pursue -- more strategically looking to pursue kind of an unsecured balance sheet once with the combined entity. What is the percentage of assets or percentage of ABR or whatever, that is currently unencumbered? That you -- so like where does that sit today as you get started?
Edward Weil
executiveThat's something that hasn't been disclosed as part of the merger. So we'll take a look at that as we get further into it.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Nate Crossett with BNP Paribas.
Nathan Daniel Crossett
analystIt has been a while now already, but just one for the go-shop, would the buyer have to buy out the advisor fee? And then 2, if a buyer were to come in, should we be operating under the assumption that GNL would still be internalized?
Edward Weil
executiveThose are questions that the Board is going to have to answer. As we are thinking about it, we've announced a merger that we've gone through the details of, that we're very excited about. The go-shop will be detailed by Truist, the terms of it, et cetera. And I don't -- I -- it's not something that I can comment on right now.
Nathan Daniel Crossett
analystHow about -- are there any hurdles outside of the shareholder vote that you see in closing the deal that we should be aware of?
Edward Weil
executiveAny -- No, I don't. I think that's one of the -- again, the 2 companies have operated on a shared platform for quite a while, and the removal from that shared platform to the internalization brings those key dedicated employees to GNL. And so, it is really something that we think of as a very smooth transition. And Jim and Chris and I have really worked very closely together on what this looks like. And when we clear the shareholder vote, we're excited to start operating.
James Nelson
executiveAnd Nate, you have to really look at this. It's such an easy transition. I mean, because all these people have worked on -- a lot have worked on both. Some worked on each. But it's a very easy, natural transition. They'll just continue doing what they're doing, and we'll have a much larger company with a lot of benefits.
Nathan Daniel Crossett
analystAnd then just like the price that the advisor's getting GNL stock at, like, I know you said it'll come out in the proxy or -- But has it been decided yet? Or is it yet to be decided?
Edward Weil
executiveAgain, as much as our instinct is to answer questions, we are bound by waiting for the proxy to be released. So I'm sorry, but that will all come out in the proxy in great detail.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Mitch Germain with JMP Securities.
Mitch Germain
analystJust to -- I guess, maybe it was kind of what Nate just asked, but is -- the internalization, the fee, is that based on a VWAP from today? Or is it based on a VWAP at the time of closing?
Edward Weil
executiveMitch, I would love to give you a different answer than I gave Nate, but we're going to have to just -- we're forced to wait for the proxy to be filed. It will all be detailed there. I just can't get ahead of that process.
Mitch Germain
analystNo problem. And then, you're saying -- do we think G&A now, going forward, is 6% of combined rents? Is that the way to think about your G&A on a percentage basis? Is that kind of how you think about modeling this?
Edward Weil
executiveYes, we -- I think we're right in line with where we need to be at 6%, and that's the exact right way to think about it.
Mitch Germain
analystAnd will that -- does that 6% include like some sort of long-term incentive plan? Like is that contemplated, or is that something that's additional to that?
Edward Weil
executiveI don't know. I don't -- First of all, again, I'm going to tell you that, that all has to come out in the proxy, but I'm going to get back to you on that and see if there's an answer I can give you before the proxy. I'm not sure. I think that's a fully baked 6%.
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, our final call comes -- question comes from the line of Bryan Maher with B. Riley Securities.
Bryan Maher
analystYes. Just 2 quick follow-ups, hopefully you can answer them, Michael. The first one is, you talk about -- in the deck about the improvement in the leverage, I think to, I don't know, 7.5x. You have talked about in the past possibly seeking an investment-grade rating for RTL, and I think GNL is BB+ currently by S&P.
Edward Weil
executiveCorrect.
Bryan Maher
analystWould the long-term goal to become investment-grade rated?
Edward Weil
executiveAbsolutely, Bryan. I think 7.6x is a great place to start the merged GNL from, and we will continue to focus on further lowering net debt-to-EBITDA. We were really encouraged, S&P this morning put out a research update, Necessity Retail REIT. The ratings are placed on credit watch positive based on the announced acquisition. GNL also received an update from S&P that indicated that -- Chris, what was the language in the GNL note update from S&P?
Christopher Masterson
executiveI mean, effectively it said that they're maintaining the same rating with a positive view.
Edward Weil
executiveSo from the credit side of the balance sheet, Bryan, this deal is really good for both companies, and RTL merging into GNL, it will continue to be a positive. Short answer is…
James Nelson
executiveAnd also remember, Bryan…
Edward Weil
executiveSorry, Jim, go ahead.
James Nelson
executiveAll I was going to say was the rating agencies also look at the size of the company, and having greater scale works to our advantage.
Bryan Maher
analystAnd just lastly -- and I don't know if you can answer this or not, Michael, but do you know if AR Global will be subject to a lockup on the shares that they get, and how long would that be?
Edward Weil
executiveI can't -- I don't know, and I can't answer.
James Nelson
executiveAnd thanks, everybody, for calling in.
Operator
operatorThis concludes our question-and-answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Weil for any final comments.
Edward Weil
executiveAll right, thank you. Well, I appreciate everybody's time this morning. Jim and Chris and I are very excited about this announcement in the future for Global Net Lease. As you know, there will be more information being provided. I'm sorry that I had to say that, it had to wait until the proxy is filed, but I think everybody is understanding of that. And we will make sure that we continue to answer your questions, and look forward to a lot more information, and ultimately a really great transaction for shareholders. There's obviously a lot of benefit to this event and what we're doing here. So thank you all again, and if there's any follow-up, please reach out.
Operator
operatorThank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
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