Thermal Energy International Inc. ($TMG)

Earnings Call Transcript · April 28, 2026

TSXV CA Industrials Machinery Earnings Calls 19 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

William Croslland

Executives
#1

I'm William Crossland, CEO of Thermal Energy International. Thank you for joining us this morning for our third quarter earnings call. Our news release, financial statements and MD&A are available on our website and have been filed on SEDAR. After my prepared remarks, we'll have a question-and-answer session, at which time qualified equity research analysts and institutional investors joining us on MS Teams will be able to ask some questions. If you're joining us online, you should be able to see our slide presentation on your screen now. Before we go any further, I have to point out that today's call may contain some forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable security laws. Wait a minute. Okay. There we go. Forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, and undue reliance should not be placed on such statements. Certain material factors or assumptions are applied in making forward-looking statements, and actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in such statements. For additional information, please refer to our financial statements and MD&A for the quarter and our other filings with the Canadian securities regulators. In terms of an overview, I'm pleased to share that Thermal Energy delivered solid performance in the third quarter, highlighted by record Q3 revenue of $9.4 million and record trailing 12-month revenue of $33.3 million. We also saw signs of operational leverage with sharp improvements in adjusted EBITDA and net income, both in the quarter and over the past year. Our balance sheet remains very healthy with virtually no debt and strong cash and working capital positions. And our order intake for the quarter was up 26% with our trailing 12 months up 41% to an all-time high of $31.3 million. We had revenue of $9.4 million for the quarter, which is a record for our fiscal third quarter. It also represented a 62% increase compared to our third quarter last year. Our heat recovery revenues remain near all-time highs, and our GEM revenues were up year-over-year as well. Looking at the trailing 12 months ended February 28, we had revenue of $33.3 million, which is a new record amount and up 92% from 3 years ago. We had operating expenses of $3.1 million in Q3, which was up about $548,000 from a year ago. However, the variance was mainly due to an increase in foreign exchange loss of $402,000. On a trailing 12-month basis, operating expenses were up $1.6 million. And again, the largest variance driver was a $538,000 decrease in foreign exchange gains. Other significant drivers included approximately $240,000 as a onetime investment in technologies and facilities, an increase in staff incentive costs of about $109,000 because of significantly higher profit and a $480,000 increase in general salaries and benefits. As many of you know, we invested a fair amount in growing our business starting in fiscal 2024 and fiscal 2025. This included expanding our sales, marketing and engineering team. As we communicated then, we expected these investments to negatively impact profitability over the short term, but they would begin to pay off in fiscal 2026. This is clearly demonstrated here on Slide #6. While our adjusted EBITDA was down in both Q3 2024 and Q3 2025, it has reversed course quite significantly. In fact, adjusted EBITDA climbed to $519,000 for the quarter, up $686,000 year-over-year and highlights the operational leverage possible as we scale our business. On a trailing 12-month basis, our adjusted EBITDA almost doubled year-over-year to about $2.1 million. It's a very similar story when it comes to net income, which was up $741,000 in the quarter to $338,000, which was a nice but expected reversal from what we reported in Q3 the last couple of years. Again, on a trailing 12-month basis, we had net income of $1.3 million, which was an increase of about $1.1 million from a year earlier. From some of our previous earnings calls, you will know I'd like to highlight that our business produces robust operating cash flow. On Slide 8, we show how operating cash flow, excluding changes in working capital items, tends to be significantly higher than our net income. You can clearly see this is the case when looking back at our trailing 12-month periods for each of the past 4 years, during which time our operating cash flow totaled $7 million. A year ago, for the trailing 12-month period, our net income was only about $230,000, but we generated nearly $1.6 million in cash flow. And for our most recent 12-month period, our net income was approximately $1.4 million, but we had cash flow of more than $2.2 million. And so over the last few years, we've used our operating cash flow to materially strengthen our balance sheet, bolstering liquidity, maintaining a solid working capital position and aggressively reducing down debt. And this year, we also spent about $500,000 buying back 3.6 million shares. We ended the quarter with $4 million in cash, up 41% from the $2.8 million we had at year-end, and we had $3.7 million in working capital in the third quarter, up 53% from the $2.4 million at year-end. Additionally, we are now essentially bank debt-free after paying down over $3.9 million in term loans since May 2022. including $1.4 million in the last 4 quarters, and we've done all of this with our own internal operating cash flow. As a result, we now have a cleaner, stronger, more flexible financial base to support continued growth. In addition to our strong financial results for the quarter and Q3, we continue to receive a good flow of orders, including repeat business. I want to take a moment to highlight some of the key orders we received in the quarter. Back in the middle of December, we received a $3.2 million turnkey heat recovery order from a leading multinational frozen food company. This is our second heat recovery project with this project -- with this customer, which happens to have over 40 manufacturing sites around the world. Also around the middle of December, we received a $1.5 million order for a turnkey heat recovery project from a multinational building materials company. This project includes four 2-stage heat sponge boiler economizers to be installed at a second customer site. We had our first turnkey order from this customer last July at a different site. The third order I wanted to highlight is a $1 million turnkey heat recovery project secured in February. The scope includes installing a 2-stage heat sponge economizer on each of three natural gas-fired boilers to capture waste heat from their exhaust stream. This marks our ninth turnkey projects with this global customer and our third consecutive HeatSponge turnkey deployment with them. Since 2019, we've delivered more than $14.6 million in projects for this client and have now at least partially penetrated 28 of their manufacturing sites across nine countries with many more to go. The orders I just highlighted contributed to a total order intake of $8.7 million for the quarter, up 26% from last year and $31.3 million for the trailing 12-month period ended February 28, which is up 42% from the same period a year earlier. At the end of the third quarter, we had an order backlog of about $15 million. While this is down a little from a year earlier, given the higher order intake and higher revenue, the slight reduction in our backlog highlights that we have been more efficient at converting orders into revenue over the past couple of quarters. And we attribute this at least in part to the investments we made in our engineering team these past couple of years. So as a quick summary before opening the call up for questions, we had record Q3 revenue and record trailing 12-month revenue. We achieved significant increases in adjusted EBITDA and net income for the quarter and trailing 12 months. Our balance sheet has been strengthened and remains very solid with virtually no bank debt. And we had strong order intake for the quarter and for the trailing 12-month period, and we continue to have a healthy order backlog. Overall, we believe we are very well positioned to continue executing our strategy and creating long-term value for our shareholders. That's it for my prepared remarks. I would now like to open the call for questions. I will turn it over to Trevor Heisler at MBC Capital Markets Advisors, who will moderate our Q&A. Please go ahead, Trevor.

Trevor Heisler

Attendees
#2

[Operator's Instructions] And your first question comes from Donangelo Volpe at Beacon Securities.

Donangelo Volpe

Analysts
#3

I'm calling on behalf of Russell Stanley. So first off, just given the impact that revenue has -- the revenue mix has on gross margins, can you provide any color on the revenue mix this quarter and how that compares to the revenue mix within your current backlog?

William Croslland

Executives
#4

Yes. It's -- as I've said before, traditionally, turnkey projects were about 2/3 of our revenue and equipment sales were about 1/3. And during the COVID period, that switched because we couldn't get to site. And now it's trending more back towards 2/3, 1/3. So that's basically where it's at, both from our revenue standpoint and our backlog.

Donangelo Volpe

Analysts
#5

Okay. And were there any gross margin headwinds in the quarter beyond revenue mix?

William Croslland

Executives
#6

Headwinds on a trailing, the quarter -- the gross margin varies pretty significantly in the quarter generally. But overall, over the last few quarters, we have been improving our margins, and that's been strategic on our part.

Donangelo Volpe

Analysts
#7

Okay. And then final question for me, and then I'll pass the line. So the prior quarter top line featured some turnkey heat recovery project revenue that came a bit sooner than you guys expected. Did you see any similar pull-forward demand of work in this quarter? Or were there any deferrals that you'd like to call out?

William Croslland

Executives
#8

No, this quarter was think it was largely in line with what we expected at the beginning of the quarter on our call back in January. So we -- maybe a little bit more than we expected, but generally in line with what we were expecting in terms of revenue.

Trevor Heisler

Attendees
#9

And your next question comes from Jesus Sanchez at Caster Investment Fund.

Jesús Sánchez León

Analysts
#10

On realizing this great quarter. It is great from my point of view to see that all that backlog that we have been accumulating all these past quarters is finally transforming into revenue. My only concern will be how are we in capacity terms? Are we doing good? Or do we have some spare capacity in case we receive further orders and our backlog start to increase again?

William Croslland

Executives
#11

No, we've got pretty good capacity right now. If we get lots of orders beyond our expectations, then we might need to hire an engineer or two. But I think we're in pretty good shape right now to continue growing the business. We don't have any plans to add people at this point.

Jesús Sánchez León

Analysts
#12

Are the people that we hired and trained like two years ago are ready making results in the company? Have you start noticing that effort being paid off?

William Croslland

Executives
#13

Yes, it's starting to, for sure. Yes, especially with the engineers, as we've seen, we've been able to deliver some of these projects quite quickly with improved margins. And so we believe that's the additional engineering capacity that we've added over the last few years in the training.

Jesús Sánchez León

Analysts
#14

I don't know if you can comment on the geography mix of the revenues. How are we seeing things, how our European business is doing compared to our American one?

William Croslland

Executives
#15

Yes. It always varies a little bit. It goes up and down both North America and Europe. Over the longer term, it's always been around 50-50, Europe and North America. This year, North America is a little bit stronger. Last year, Europe was a little bit stronger. So we would have expected North America because natural gas prices are very inexpensive in North America compared to Europe, but it keeps keeping pace. So we're pretty pleased with that. So like I said, this year, North America is stronger than Europe. But last year, it was the other way around. But I don't see the mix changing much from the sort of 50-50.

Jesús Sánchez León

Analysts
#16

From your conversation with your customers, do you think that we will see an uptick in request or bidding due to the high prices of natural gas and energy that we are seeing in the U.S.

William Croslland

Executives
#17

Yes. It's still early days, but I would think we will. We did see that pretty significantly in Europe when the war in Ukraine started and the natural gas prices spiked. There's a lot of natural gas, liquefied natural gas terminals being built in North America that we think will push prices up in North America for natural gas over the longer term. So we're still pretty optimistic. But in terms of -- with the Iranian war, we haven't really seen -- we expect it will have an impact because customers will tell us even if prices go back down, they're seeing some pretty significant volatility, and that was their concern, and that has been their concern since the Ukraine war. So I think it will be positive for us, but I can't say yet.

Jesús Sánchez León

Analysts
#18

I guess it's too early and we are still assessing the volatility. The last one for me, Bill, the Supreme Court of the U.S. dropped the tariffs. I don't know if we can or are going to submit any claim for the tariffs paid.

William Croslland

Executives
#19

You know what? If it is, if we are able to, it will be a small amount. We're pretty well set up in both the U.S., Canada and Europe. So we can manufacture our product in the U.S. if we can. So we haven't really been hugely impacted by the tariffs, which would imply we haven't got any sort of significant claim coming.

Trevor Heisler

Attendees
#20

Okay. And it looks like there are no further questions at this time. Please go ahead, Bill.

William Croslland

Executives
#21

Well, I just want to, as always, thank everyone for their continued support and interest in Thermal Energy International, and we look forward to speaking with you again next quarter. Have a great day, and bye for now.

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