Compañía Cervecerías Unidas S.A. (CCU) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 5, 2026

SNSE CL Consumer Staples Beverages earnings 61 min

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Operator

operator
#1

Good day, everyone, and welcome to CCU's Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call on August 5, 2026. Please note that today's call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Claudio Heras, the Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Claudio Heras

executive
#2

Welcome, and thank you for attending CCU's Second Quarter 2026 Conference Call. Today with me are Mr. Eduardo Ffrench-Davis, Chief Executive Officer; Mr. Felipe Dubernet, Chief Financial Officer; and Mr. Diego Munizaga, Financial Planning and Investor Relations Manager. You have received a copy of the company's consolidated second quarter 2026 earnings release. As usual, the call will start by reviewing our overall results, and then we will move on to a question-and-answer session. Before we begin, please take note of the following statements. The statements made in this call that relate to CCU's future financial results are forward-looking statements, which involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual performance or results to materially differ. These statements should be taken in conjunction with the additional information about risks and uncertainties set forth in CCU's annual report submitted to the CMF and in our Form 20-F filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, both documents available on our website. It is now my pleasure to introduce our CEO, Mr. Eduardo Ffrench-Davis.

Eduardo Rodríguez

executive
#3

Thank you very much, Claudio, and thank you all for joining us today. It is my pleasure to share with you our second quarter '26 financial results for the first time as CEO of CCU, company in which I have worked for more than 20 years, and I am proud to lead at a time that we need to look to the future with a strength and conviction that has always characterized us as we face a particularly challenging context. Nonetheless, we have always shown a long-standing track record of adaptability and for sure, execution. Therefore, to continue successfully shaping our future, I would like to mention some relevant changes that we have defined. We have designed the strategy Vamos por Más, which is built on our 4 main pillars: First, the first pillar, increase our focus on businesses. The second one, boost operational synergies; the third one, act with greater agility; and fourth one, accelerate our transformation. These pillars are oriented to generate growth and to respond to the new demands and challenges of the market. To support this strategy, we will execute changes in our organizational structure as well as strengthening our internal processes and capabilities to remain at the cutting edge of new trends while enhancing our technological transformation. This transition will be implemented gradually throughout this year with our main focus being to ensure operational continuity and for sure, performance. I am confident in the commitment that has always characterized all the CCU employees. And together, we will prepare CCU to successfully navigate current and future challenges. Regarding our second quarter performance, CCU delivered a solid 59.4% consolidated EBITDA expansion, mostly driven by a robust set of results in our main operating segment, Chile, which expanded EBITDA 26.2%. The international business operating segment also contributed to a higher EBITDA by posting a 25.8% lower EBITDA loss. As we continue facing a soft consumption environment in Argentina. On the other hand, the wine operating segment contracted EBITDA by 61.9%, sharply impacted by unfavorable trends for the wine category globally and a higher cost of wine. I will now pass the call to our CFO, Felipe Dubernet, who will give you further details about our performance by operating segment during this quarter. Felipe?

Felipe Dubernet

executive
#4

Thank you, Eduardo, and good morning, everyone. Consolidated net sales grew 4.8%, almost fully explained by 6.4% higher average prices in CLP as volume declined 1.5%. Higher prices in Chilean pesos were mostly a consequence of revenue management initiatives in all our operating segments. And in terms of volumes, the 2.5% increase in the Chile operating segment was offset by decreases of 7.4% and 13.7% in international business and wine operating segments, respectively. Gross profit grew 6.8% and gross margin improved 76 basis points. MSD&A expenses rose 3.3% due to higher distribution expenses associated with higher oil prices during the quarter and restructuring expenses in Argentina and in the wine operating segment. This was partially offset through ongoing efficiency initiatives, mainly in logistics. As a percentage of net sales, MSD&A expenses decreased 62 basis points. In all, EBITDA grew 59.4%. Regarding net income, we recorded a higher loss from second quarter of 2025, mostly due to a nonrecurring negative effect of CLP 6,068 million from an impairment loss related to our business in Bolivia and lower income taxes in second quarter of 2025 coming from a nonrecurring positive tax effect in Argentina. In terms of our segment, the Chile operating segment expanded top line by 1.5%, explained by 2.5% higher volumes gaining overall market share versus same quarter of last year, partially offset by 1% decrease in average prices in Chilean pesos. During the quarter, the nonalcoholic categories grew mid-single digits, outweighing the low single-digit decline in alcoholic categories, which encompasses beer and spirits. Flavored low alcohol ready-to-drink products led by brands such as Stones in beer, Mistral and Kantal in spirits continue to show excellent results with volume growing double digits in the quarter and representing 8.3% of total alcohol in this segment as of June 2026. Average prices contracted due to mix effect in the portfolio, partially offset by revenue management initiatives in all categories. Gross profit increased 9.4%, mainly driven by lower direct costs, mostly coming from the 5% appreciation of the Chilean pesos against the U.S. dollar, impacting favorably our U.S. dollar-denominated costs, partially offset by higher aluminum prices. MSD&A expenses grew 3.5% below inflation, although as a percentage of net sales increased 71 basis points due to expenses pressures coming from higher distribution costs, partially offset by efficiencies. Altogether, EBITDA recorded a 26.2% increase and EBITDA margin expanded to 264 basis points. I would like to mention that during the quarter, CCU acquired a 49% equity interest that Nestlé Chile held in our subsidiary, Aguas Nestlé. After this acquisition, CCU reached 100% ownership in this subsidiary, allowing us to further consolidate our leadership in a steadily growing water industry in Chile, which is expanding low double digit as of June 2026. Following the transaction, we will maintain our strategic relationship with Nestlé, continuing the distribution of the ready-to-drink coffee-based beverage products and water brands in Chile. In International business operating segment, net sales increased 15.7%, driven by 24.9% higher average prices in Chilean pesos, partially offset by a 7.4% contraction in volumes. Higher average prices in Chilean pesos was due to revenue management initiatives, mainly with price actions in Argentina in line with inflation. Volumes in these segments were below last year, mainly explained by Argentina due to a high single-digit contraction in beer and water industries and a difficult business scenario in Bolivia, marked by social unrest and [ loans growth ] that disrupted our operations. Gross profit increased 20.8% expenses grew 7.6% as a percentage of net sales decreased 460 basis points. EBITDA resulted in a 25.8% lower loss versus second quarter 2025. During the quarter, we incurred in restructuring expenses in Argentina by CLP 1,408 million. The wine operating segment posted a top line drop of 14.1%, mostly driven by the 13.7% decrease in volumes as average prices contracted 0.5%. Lower volumes were driven by industry contraction in export and domestic market in Chile. The decline in average prices were lower due to a negative mix effect in the portfolio and a stronger Chilean peso against the U.S. dollar, which impacted negatively export revenues. These effects were partially offset by revenue management initiatives. Gross profit fell 26.9%, mostly due to cost pressures from a higher cost of wine, partially offset by efficiencies in manufacturing. MSD&A expenses dropped 3.7%, mostly due to the lower business scale. Altogether, EBITDA decreased 61.9%. During the quarter, we incurred in restructuring expenses amounting CLP 1,633 million. To navigate the difficult scenario in the wine business, we will continue pursuing efficiencies and keep developing a strategy of accelerating high-margin innovation. In this regard, as of June 2023, flavored low alcohol ready-to-drink products based on wine almost doubled versus last year, mostly driven by the launch of the single-serve can version of our brand [indiscernible], among other brands backed by our multi-category production capabilities. Regarding our main joint venture and associated business in Colombia, we posted mid-teens volume growth during the quarter. We are focused on that country on building brand equity and scale to enhance profitable growth in the future. Now we will be glad to answer any questions you may have.

Operator

operator
#5

Our first question comes from Alejandro Fuchs from Itaú BBA.

Alejandro Fuchs

analyst
#6

I have 2 very quick ones, if I may. The first one, I wanted to see if maybe you could elaborate a little bit on how you see the competitive environment in Chile, especially on the soft drink market. Anything that has changed in the last couple of months? And maybe how do you see the rest of the year? And then the second one, in terms of alcoholic, especially beer in Argentina, we saw volumes continue to be pressured despite the sporting events this quarter. So I wanted to see if you could break down for us what do you expect for the rest of the year and if there was a positive impact or not given the sporting event in the country?

Eduardo Rodríguez

executive
#7

Alejandro. I will take the first question from Chile. In terms of competitive environment in Chile, especially in the soft drinks, always this is a very mature category compound by different segments. Actually, we operate 9 segments within that micro category. And it has always been very competitive. But we believe that the trends will continue. All the better-for-you products, all the healthy products such as waters, flavored waters, juices, functional products are growing, and we will see that they are continue growing. We have a strong position in terms of market shares in those categories, and we will invest in those categories in order to get more innovations and to push the mix on those category. Within the CSD categories, we are doing a great job with Pepsi within the cola segment and with strong brands in the flavor subsegment as well. But we believe that the soft drinks will continue growing mainly through better-for-you products, which we believe that we have a very, very strong position. The second question, the beer in Argentina, I will pass that question to Felipe.

Felipe Dubernet

executive
#8

Alejandro, yes, the second quarter, as you noticed, we decreased our -- the beer industry contraction was high single digit. However, we are comparing particularly, let's say, high comparison base in the second quarter of last year. you know in quarter 3 volume collapsed as this is in line with a significant rise on interest rates in Argentina, unemployment due to all the macroeconomic adjustment that were done in Argentina last year. So we should look or see a recovery in volumes in second half of 2026. One, because of the company base in quarter 3 on the one hand. But also what we are seeing now is a continuous improvement in volume trends in Argentina since March. if we adjust seasonally adjust the volumes in Argentina, we are seeing a recovery month-on-month since March. A more stable macroeconomic scenario in terms of inflation and devaluation in Argentina, yet has not translated into a more dynamic consumption environment. However, everything is volatile, and this is a forward-looking that I cannot make sure to you, we should see a more robust consumption environment towards the end of the year as we have seen, let's say, some good signs in March in terms of improvement of volumes.

Operator

operator
#9

Our next question comes from Fernando Olvera from Bank of America.

Fernando Olvera Espinosa de los Monteros

analyst
#10

My first question is related to the strategic plan that you mentioned in your initial remarks. Maybe if you can give some color of what are some of the targets that you are planning to achieve with this new strategic plan in the medium term? That would be great. And my second question is related to Chile. How do you expect consumption to behave in the remaining of the year? And maybe if you could share some initial thoughts about 2027 considering the mega reform approved by the government?

Eduardo Rodríguez

executive
#11

I am very optimistic for the future. So I will ask you both questions. The first one around the new strategy. For sure, this new strategy will be part of our new strategic plan. We are going to create a new strategic plan based on 2 main things. The first one is going to be a 4-year plan looking forward to the 2030 and setting some KPIs for that year. And the second thing is we are going to interrupt the current strategic plan to create a new one -- and this new strategic plan is based on the strategy format that I talked on the beginning of this presentation. This strategy is based basically in 4 main pillars, and I will explain a little bit more further on these pillars. The first one is to focus on businesses, which is not mean that we haven't had focus on business, but we will strengthen our focus in our businesses, separating or differentiating our core businesses with our high potential businesses. We are going to go deep in our multi-category strategy with focus on each single category. leading distinct consumption occasions and growing volume and margin across all our operations. We are going to be very focused on consumer occasions and to go deeper in those occasions and satisfy consumers in different places, times with our multi-category portfolio, which is something that we really believe that is very strong. The second one is operational synergies. We will reach greater productivity and efficiencies, leveraging our multi-category strengths and the reduction of redundancies. We are looking for the whole company. We have done a first single act like synergy in wines and liquors especially in the domestic Chilean market. But we have several more things to come in order to get more synergies, leveraging our multi-category spirit and occasion. The third one is agility. We will implement a greater autonomy to respond to the market. We are living in a very volatile market with accelerated changes, and we want to be more agile in order to respond those changes. Less operational friction we have called or[ toolbox ] and a real-time control in our operation with leaner and more connected structures. And the fourth one is transformation. We have been very -- we are doing some transformation, especially with digital tools in sales, for example, with in our logistics and planning, integrating new tools, people and tools, structures and processes and industrial in our facilities as well. But we will go big on that with an architecture based on new processes and technologies, putting the digital transformation as the #1 enabler of synergies and mainly growth. So that's answering your first question. Fernando, obviously, more is coming in our strategic plan. And for sure, I cannot say anymore. But this is the main mindset that we are creating in order to have a new strategic plan focused on profitable growth based on our main capabilities. The second question is about per capita consumption or volumes trends in Chile. Of course, we received the yesterday actually, and was a good thing. But obviously, we cannot say that we are -- as a country, we are ready to grow as we have done in the past. But we still believe that our categories are facing a new trend. For sure, we cannot avoid the downtrend that we are facing with alcohol. But we believe that our categories with innovation and certain things we can turn around that situation. The wine situation is basically -- it's a global one, but we have seen some early stages of early green -- how do you say, the green graphs with, for example, [ gleces ] ready-to-drink products -- we launched our new wine ready-to-drink products, I don't know, 1 month ago, and it has been very, very successful. So we believe that we can turn around this alcohol down trade in the domestic market. And on the nonalcoholic business, as I mentioned before, we see that our portfolio, better-for-you portfolio based on waters, flavored waters, juices and nectars and functional, we are #1 in all of those categories. We believe that we'll continue growing, integrating new consumer occasions and satisfying consumer needs that are eager for more alternatives and not only based on CSDs. So we believe that in terms of per capita consumption will be a second semester in order to see how the economy is turning around in a positive way, but we believe that our portfolio, it's prefer to turn around the that we faced on the first semester.

Felipe Dubernet

executive
#12

Tax reform. Let me complement what Eduardo has said regarding tax reform. I think it's a good news for the country, the approval of the new tax reform reducing corporate taxes in Chile. When will this come to more consumption is something that we cannot predict. But however, in the long term, it's a good news for the country to boost investment in the country, to boost employment. Of course, this could boost the consumption for our products. But as you know, there are many variables or many other inputs that are key for the level of consumption.

Operator

operator
#13

Our next question comes from Felipe Ucros from Scotiabank.

Felipe Ucros Nunez

analyst
#14

Perhaps a few follow-ups on the new strategy and the upcoming midterm plan that you're still working on. And I realize that you're still working on the plan, so it's probably a little too early to have definitive answers on this, but perhaps you can give us some initial thoughts on 3 things that I'm curious about. The first one is hedging. CCU has stood out within the publicly traded industry as one of the only companies that doesn't hedge, right? And there's some chatter in the market that this generates different pricing needs than your competitors. So just wondering if within your strategy, there are any changes that you plan to make around this or perhaps bring to the Board for potential changes. The second side is wine. Obviously, it seems like you're already doing some restructuring there and you're innovating quite a bit. But wondering if there's like a bigger transformation around the approach and the strategy that you guys have had towards the wine segment. perhaps whether you'll try to accelerate premiumization or any other things that you plan to change there? And then the last one is for Colombia, where you guys have had a decent performance this quarter. Just wondering if there are any changes that you plan on that side of the business?

Eduardo Rodríguez

executive
#15

Three main questions. I will pass the first one to Felipe and the second one to Felipe Dubernet and the second one, third one, I'm going to respond directly.

Felipe Dubernet

executive
#16

No, our policy regarding hedging of commodities for exchange rate remain unchanged. This is a policy that is reviewed every year by the Board of CCU. But as of today, remain unchanged. So now Eduardo will answer you the question regarding the 2 important business of wine and Colombia.

Eduardo Rodríguez

executive
#17

Yes. Regarding wine, for sure, we are facing an important trend globally. We are an important player in Chile for sure. But -- and at the same time, we are an important player outside in the export. So we are doing, I think, 2 main things. The third one is not only integrating liquors, which we have an important ammunition or power in Chile with the wines in order to get synergies, but also we are doing this in order to fulfill consumer needs that we believe that are coming together. Today, the consumer is not only choosing product by product, it's choosing based on consumer occasions. And we believe that together in Chile with a portfolio combining wines and spirits, we can satisfy better to our consumer and for sure, increase volumes through that strategy. In terms of global export, we are focusing our main capabilities on BSP on exports, on exports, increase our footprint outside, getting more markets within the company and basically strengthen our position in terms of production, getting synergies and efficiencies from there. So we believe that wine could -- we are just in some place, some pieces. For sure, we are facing a very important global trend. But we believe that we can start in turning around that situation with this strategy. For sure, we have to see how it evolves, but we are taking decisions around that business now. In Colombia, we still believe that we have a very, very important or plenty of space to grow over there. Colombia is an interesting country. It's facing a change in his government now. For sure, it's -- we are leaving a very, very good, good momentum in Colombia. We are double-digit growth with beer and Manta over there. And we are plenty of innovation and a new strategy setting up to Colombia in order to get more of this country. Colombia for us in this strategy, Vamos por Más is a core country for us. We are there to grow, and we are there to win some battles. So we are going to strengthen our position in Colombia, and we believe that we can create momentum of -- continue the momentum that we are facing on that.

Felipe Ucros Nunez

analyst
#18

Great color. Maybe if I can do one follow-up on the cost decline, less strategic, but -- you did mention that the cost of wine had increased, and I thought that kind of stood out in stark contrast to what [indiscernible] reported where they're having much lower cost of wine and a very strong harvest. So just wondering why you think there's a difference. Perhaps it has to do with the regions, different climate in different regions, maybe with the suppliers of grades that you guys use. Just wondering if you can comment a little about that differential?

Eduardo Rodríguez

executive
#19

I pass this to Felipe. Yes, I pass this question to Felipe. I pass this to Felipe Dubernet.

Felipe Dubernet

executive
#20

Okay. Yes, Felipe, regarding the wine cost, as you know, this year, we are facing a particularly unfavorable input cost in terms of wine cost in our P&L as the whole industry. As you mentioned and as you mentioned, a competitor also, we have had a positive wine harvest this year. That will reduce going forward, our cost of wine as we reduce, of course, inventory levels that are depending on how we evolve in the volumes. So we see in the business that is suffering a lot, not only in consumption, but also in the input cost side, in the exchange rate side for our export business this year a lot. So at least we are seeing some green grass in the horizon now with the input cost of wine going forward. But as I said, will depend on how we deplete our inventories going forward.

Operator

operator
#21

Our next question comes from Thiago Bortoluci from Goldman Sachs.

Thiago Bortoluci

analyst
#22

And I think my very one question is for you, Eduardo. Once you take the CEO role and evaluate the situation in Chile more broadly, how satisfied would you say you are with the price points and price sensitivities, price relativities in each of the categories in Chile? And do you think there is any particular segment that needs a more focused targeted shift or strategic pilot in the next 6 months? And related to this, how inflation and oil prices particularly impact your pricing decisions, particularly for the second half of the year? I know you have already implemented a price adjustment. How much of your underlying cost inflation is covered with this?

Eduardo Rodríguez

executive
#23

Well, as you see in the presentation, we have a very strong results in Chile. Chile mainly through the different categories from the 2 categories keeping our momentum and market share with the beer category and improving our prices and the excellent development of nonalcoholic business, improving our market shares and improving our prices, we are facing a very good position regarding the second semester. In that terms, obviously, there are always opportunities in terms of pricing. Consumers are less willing now to take lease prices, increase on lease prices as we have done in several companies have done in the past. So new technologies and new strategies are -- we have to put it in place. So in our new strategy, revenue growth management is important -- has an important role in our strategy. Obviously, revenue growth management is a huge area that we can go deep dive, but there are several initiatives like, for example, let me give an example, the TPO initiatives, trade promotion optimization within the modern trade and several and use of algorithms. We have a proprietary algorithms called sales, which is helping us our revenue growth management in traditional trade that we have -- we can help us to drive price without hitting the consumers and hitting all the places and SKUs at the same time. So technology processes and intelligent based on algorithms will help us to improve our mix, not only driven by prices, but also driven by channel and format or pack types mix. So I'm confident that we have done a very good job on prices within the first semester, and we will continue with new tools doing a great job on the second one.

Operator

operator
#24

Our next question comes from Alvaro Garcia from BTG Pactual.

Alvaro Garcia

analyst
#25

Can you hear me?

Operator

operator
#26

Yes, we can.

Alvaro Garcia

analyst
#27

Okay. Sorry about that. Eduardo, Felipe Eduardo, congrats on the new role. I have a question on the Nestle transaction, the water transaction in Chile. One, I mean, it's a pretty hefty transaction from a financial standpoint. So I'm wondering if that -- how you're thinking about sort of leverage heading into 2027, how you're thinking about the dividends into 2027. So that's one aspect of the question. But the other is sort of whether it changes the operating model for that business specifically? I'm guessing the answer is no. But maybe on brands, maybe just like 100% ownership, does that give you more flexibility on brand strategy in water specifically? So if you could speak to any specific changes on the back of that transaction?

Eduardo Rodríguez

executive
#28

And regarding your question, let me answer it with the strategy. As you know, the water business is growing a lot. And within the water business, we have different kind of products. We have mineral waters, which satisfy certain part of the consumers, purified water, which compete directly with tap water actually and flavored waters. Our strategy remains the same, but with this acquisition, we are going to strengthen certain part of that strategy. We will continue creating momentum with Cachantún as the #1 mineral water within the country. As you may notice, we have launched several innovations with Cachantún, Strong Cachantún, the black one has been very, very successful, not only competing against water business, but also getting momentum and getting consumer occasions from CSPs, which is something that is very interesting in terms of the water penetration. Within the -- so we will continue with that. Regarding the flavored water, you have seen that flavors are growing, different SKUs are growing, different pack types or PPA strategies are getting momentum as well. We have launched several innovations, especially with gas -- and they are creating, again, an important growth coming from different categories and not only coming from the water categories. And finally, Purified Water Purified Water, we have been -- we switched our strategy from Nestle [indiscernible], Nestlé, which was a license fee coming from Nestlé to our Manantial brand and Manantial has done a very, very great job. Now we are incrementing our market share in a sustainable manner and with a strong numbers against our competitors. And at the same time, taking volumes from tapwater, which is in Chile, at least is a huge, huge undercover market. So we believe that with this acquisition, we will strengthen our -- we will make more agile our decisions around the water business, and we will on growth. And regarding leverage questions, I will pass the question to Felipe Dubernet.

Felipe Dubernet

executive
#29

Yes, the leverage, as you noticed, increased from 1.7 last quarter to 2.4% this quarter. This is due because we used the cash we had on hand that came from the issuance of the 1.4 international bond we did in 2022. So it was a very good proceed of this acquisition because it's accretive on the one hand. So it would enhance -- further enhance our net income going forward as we have 100% net income from this business. So going forward, at the end, as we see -- if we could see a recovery going forward in Argentina that has a terrible second half on last year and the growth on the strong results we are delivering in Chile, we should converge towards the middle of the range that we have defined between 1.5, 2.5 net financial debt EBITDA going forward. So certainly in quarter 4 or not certainly, but we look that with good perspective on reducing the leverage. Regarding dividend policy, as maybe you know and it's in the financial statement, the policy in CCU is to distribute at least 50% of net income, and this is maintained in this coming exercise or coming in this year. For 2027, we need to wait until the shareholder meeting, which is typically in April, if this policy changed or not. But the policy remains the same to distribute 50% of the net income at least...

Operator

operator
#30

Our next question comes from Rodrigo Alcantara from UBS.

Rodrigo Alcantara

analyst
#31

Just want to touch base again on Argentina. I guess the answer was very clear, right, from a macro perspective and totally get it. It's hard for us to predict, right, what to expect in the second half. Still was not clear for me. The share performance, right, when you look at your number and another brewer, right, just wondering if you can help me understand what you attribute this share performance we observed during the quarter, specifically in beer, right? If you can give us granularity on the portfolio, the brands, Heineken portfolio and your own brands? And what are you planning to do in order to revert that share-wise, again into the second half? And very quickly would be on to when and when to expect, right, the launch of Heineken Ultimate if following the launch in Brazil, it would be fair to assume anytime soon, could be in Argentina as well. Those would be my questions.

Eduardo Rodríguez

executive
#32

The first one regarding the market share in Argentina, well, we our numbers, we have Nielsen numbers, and we see our market share in Argentina year-to-date very -- growing a little bit, but flat in that terms. For sure, we are eager for more as we are saying. And we believe that our new strategy that we are trying to put in place in Argentina for the next year will get more -- a little bit more market share. We have a very strong national brands, but also we have a very interesting local brands in Argentina that they are doing or could be do a greater job region by region. So at least our numbers say that we are stable in terms of market share in Argentina and actually gaining a little bit on value market share comparing the volume market share because as Felipe mentioned in the presentation, we have done several price increase during the last quarter. Regarding the Heineken Ultimate, for sure, we have a very strong pipeline in terms of innovation. Heineken Ultimate is trying to reach consumer occasions that are not satisfied by the typical normal beer products that are in the market in Brazil is doing a great job, and we are seeing to integrate that innovation in several operations within our business, not only in Argentina, but in other places as well. So news are coming soon.

Operator

operator
#33

Our next question comes from Maria [ Paula ] from Nestle.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#34

So I've got 2 questions about the Colombian market. And the first one is, is the current expectation for Colombia to continue delivering mid-teens growth? Or are we -- or are there any anticipated changes to the growth trajectory moving forward? And the second one is as part of the Vamos por Más strategy that is Colombia one of the core countries and this strategy aims to deliver higher quality and more profitable growth, should we expect Colombia to continue relying primarily on the value segment as a growth driver? Or will there be a stronger strategy focused on premium brands moving forward?

Eduardo Rodríguez

executive
#35

Maria, thank you for the 2 questions. Regarding the first one, for sure, it's difficult now to predict -- it has always been difficult to predict the future. But now in Colombia, it's more difficult because governments are changing. So we will see how is this new government set up in Colombia. Regarding of that, Colombia is definitely a place that we believe that we have plenty of space for growth. We truly believe in that market. We have been there -- obviously, we have a furious competition over there, but we believe that we have built a strong branch -- and certain parts of Colombia, we are doing really, really well, for example, in Cartagena. So we believe -- we still believe -- we believe in Colombia, we don't know if the market, the industry will grow at the same pace that we have done in this last quarter, but we believe to increase our competitive position over there. In terms of our portfolio, Colombia is a very mainstream portfolio compared to other regions or other countries within Latin America, and it's dominated by our competitor over there. So we believe that the way that we can improve our profitability over there is to compete asymmetric with a different portfolio. So we will increase our portfolio in terms of different brands, set in different places and try to reach profitability with that strategy on the future.

Operator

operator
#36

Our next question comes from Kevin Zavala from UBS.

Kevin Zavala

analyst
#37

Just want to question regarding distribution expenses. This quarter remained a source of pressure despite some efficient initiatives already underway. So if you could explain which components are driving the increase such as fuel, labor, fleet utilization, et cetera. And in relation to that, I mean, which business process are the first targets for your digital investment? And I would like to hear from you what do you expect the most tangible benefits, whether either sales effectiveness, demand for casing, procurement, manufacturing, logistics from this investment in digital?

Felipe Dubernet

executive
#38

Kevin, we have some trouble with the system here, but we solve it. So I'm Felipe. So I will take your first question. We have some noise problems, but I think you were wondering about how oil and distribution expenses are impacting our P&L. So I will take this part of the question. The second part regarding the future, I will -- Eduardo will take it. So as you noted, we build KPI that is expense -- total expenses. It does include production costs, distribution costs or D&A as a whole. So despite the higher distribution cost because of oil pressures we had, we have been able to reduce our overall expenses over net sales by 56 basis points in a consolidated basis, which is very good and keep our expenses below Chilean inflation, 3.8% Chilean inflation in the period is 4.2%. In my view, this is good because at the same time, we were investing more, especially in Chile behind our brands that is building the future. So at the end, having this external pressure of oil in distribution costs on the one side. But on the other side, higher level of inflation. But on the other side, being able to invest more for the future for our brands, I think, is the perfect equation for a company like us, and this was particularly good this quarter. If you look and we are implementing efficient initiatives in all key aspects of the business with good results, mostly in logistics. That in his previous role was led by Eduardo as he was the Head of the non-alcoholic business and the logistics in Chile. And also, I forgot to mention that we have restructuring costs in 2 business that are suffering such as Argentina and the wine business that if we exclude those effects, our total expenses on a consolidated basis will be around 3% growth. So this is much less than inflation. Of course, and then I will pass to Eduardo, -- looking at the future, we need to improve our margins. That's sure, especially going towards our pre-pandemic margins that we have, and this needs more efforts in terms of synergies and efficiencies. So Eduardo will make a comment and then come back.

Eduardo Rodríguez

executive
#39

Yes, Kevin, of course, within the new strategy that we have presented, the Vamos por Más transformation is a key pillar, not only for getting efficiencies and improve our EBITDA margin, but also to be a fuel for or enabler for growth, which is something that is for top line growth, which is something that this kind of business needs in order to be better, stronger and with higher margin as well. So the digital transformation, as Felipe has mentioned, has been very, very successful, not only with low-hanging fruit initiatives, but also some Stage 1 initiatives, but we have done it silos by silos now. The future and the new structures that we are setting up is going to integrate all the transformation activities because if I am making a transformation in logistics in order to improve our logistics system, it's not 100% connected with sales transformation. Sometimes there are inefficiencies within that. So the new structure and the new strategy for us is going to integrate the end-to-end value chain and set an appropriate structure in order to get that transformation and end-to-end system and also integrate IT and AI capabilities within that structure at the same time. So we are going to be more agile and penetrate silos and be end-to-end in order to get that transformation. And of course, there are plenty of examples for that, but real-time control now, for example, control towers in logistics, planning, commercial, industrial are, for example, a key system that we are going to put in place in order to get real-time synergies because when you are managing, for example, an efficiency on a line, but you are looking back that numbers 1 month with 1 month, you cannot make the adjustment -- the necessary adjustment to get the efficiencies on real time. So it's just an example. Obviously, more things to come, but future is an important -- or transformation, sorry, on the future is a key point of our strategy.

Operator

operator
#40

Thank you so much. I'm not seeing any more questions. So perhaps I can hand it back to the CCU team for the closing remarks.

Eduardo Rodríguez

executive
#41

So thank you. Thank you all. Thank you, moderator. Thank you all the people who have listened this Q&A session and listened the presentation. Thank you for the people who have done the question. I am very optimistic and I'm very eager for more. So in this new role in CCU, I've been here 20 years, 21 years, I've been -- I born in this company, but I'm looking with several challenges and optimism in the future. So finally, we have to navigate these current challenges and volatile business context and keep projecting CCU's future. We will act with more agility and more focus while delivering synergies and efficiencies across all our operating segments, together with the strengthening of our portfolio to adapt to new consumer trends by growing in high-margin innovation category is key for our plan. Working with collaboration, we will be prepared with the strength for our 2027 and 2013 strategic plan with more focus, more synergies, more agility and more transformation. Vamos por Más, thank you very much for attendance, for your attendance and see you in the next chapter.

Operator

operator
#42

This concludes the call for today. We are now closing all the lines. Thank you, and have a nice day.

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