United Therapeutics Corporation (UTHR) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
November 17, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Eun Yang
analystGood morning and good afternoon. This is Eun Kyung Yang a biotech analyst with Jeffries. So next to presenting companies, United therapeutics, it's one of your fireside chat. And presenting from UTHR is James Edgemond, CFO. James, thanks for joining us. But before we start, Dewey is going to give us a disclaimer. Dewey?
Dewey Steadman
executiveYes. Good afternoon. Our remarks today may include forward-looking information about our business, and please see our SEC filings for risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ. And thank you. And so I'll turn it back over to you, Eun.
Eun Yang
analystSo James, why don't we start with a quick overview from you, then we can go in Q&As?
James Edgemond
executiveYes. Eun, thank you, and thank you for the invitation to the Jefferies Virtual London Healthcare Conference today. We really appreciate kind of the invitation, the opportunity to connect again. It's the second time for you and I this year. And we've had some really good conversations throughout the day today. So really thank you for that. And as you already noted, I'm joined today and will be joined today in our fireside chat by Dewey Steadman, who is UT's Head of Investor Relations. So he'll be available too for any questions as well. So just as a quick kind of overview, Eun, and thank you for the opportunity before we jump into Q&A. From a third quarter perspective, where we just reported and a follow-on from that earnings release, it was a very good quarter for United Therapeutics. We had excellent growth in Tyvaso and Orenitram. And I also wanted to touch on a couple of things about key milestones, really, going forward for us. We've had a lot of questions today around what is next for United Therapeutics. And then just to touch on a few of those going forward. And I know we're going to spend some time in the next 30-minutes talking about it. But 5 items, I think, are worth to bring up are really the INCREASE clinical trial results. That, as you know, are currently under FDA review, and we're going to spend a few minutes talking about that. The next is Remunity, which is really a new approved pump platform for subcutaneous delivery of Remodulin. It is approved as well and launch preparations are really underway for that. And the implantable system for Remodulin is another surgically-implanted Remodulin pump that will deliver medicine right to the pulmonary bed. We anticipate launching that in 2021. And we're also going to spend a few minutes, I bet, on BREEZE, which is treprostinil Technosphere, which is our license agreement with MannKind Corporation and our dry powder inhaler. And there's probably a couple of things we want to touch on in terms of where we are in that process. And lastly, really the ralinepag advance studies, which are an IP receptor agonist, and these are 2 studies that are 1 that's on the cusp of launching and 1 that has already been launched, with ralinepag, which was the in license agreement from Arena. And again, we're excited about those 2 studies, which is really a new biologic and new chemical entity for us. It's in that platform, but a new chemical [indiscernible] PAH. But I would say those are certainly key milestones to think about for UT going forward. But with that, I'll turn it back over to you to run through some questions that may be of interest for you or some of the investors out there.
Eun Yang
analystYes. Thank you, James. So for the third quarter, it's a good quarter. And one thing was very noticed -- noticeable was strong, Tyvaso sales two quarters in a row. And although you guys mentioned the majority of the sales came from the approved indication, PAH. But a post positive Phase-III INCREASE data, the street assumes that there must be increased off-label use. So the question to you, I know you don't really promote off-label use. You haven't really disclosed what the off-label use is or the Tyvaso has been. But after the data, because the patients who are treating PAH the patients, the physicians that are treating those patients are overlapping with the PAH patients. So after the past, they will face the INCREASE data, can you share with us what have you been hearing from the medical community about the potential of a PH-ILD indication? Also, what's the kind of a current diagnosis rate? And once the drug is approved sometime next year, hopefully, April. Do you think the diagnosis array would go up, so the actually potential number location could increase?
James Edgemond
executiveYes. Thank you, Eun. Great question. There's a couple, I guess, questions embedded in there. And so let me try and tease them apart. So Tyvaso, as you mentioned, had a great quarter, really 2 consecutive quarters. I would say a strong revenue growth. And if you reflect back on just the September 30 quarter, it had approximately 17% year-over-year growth. As you mentioned, we don't promote off-label use, and we can't really track off-label use for Tyvaso. The data that we get in very de-identifiable form really doesn't give us any visibility other than to PAH treated patients where Tyvaso is currently approved and WHO Group 1. That said, there could be PAH centers, of course, that are prescribing Tyvaso to PH-ILD patients. But right now, we only cover about 25% of those potential PH-ILD prescribers with our current sales force. It's also important to note that there were prior trials in this space. There were for systemic PAH agents that were unsuccessful. As such, going into this INCREASE trial, some of the medical communities saw a very little chance of success and what we believe was an opportunity for success in a very underserved market. And one other point really on the Tyvaso, your -- first part of your question, I think, in a couple of questions. Is that there could be a possible, what I would say, halo effect for Tyvaso. The clinical trial results for INCREASE were very strong, right? It hit its primary and all secondary endpoints. And that could have reconfirmed to some prescribers of really, the benefits of Tyvaso, but it also could have rekindled interest from those that didn't prescribe Tyvaso and really to relook at it for the benefit of PAH patients. Again, all we get visibility is into really, PAH patients, but there could have been this kind of halo effect across Tyvaso. Now I think the second part of your question, and correct me if I'm wrong, was really around the opportunity.
Eun Yang
analystYes what is the diagnosis rate? About PH-ILD.
James Edgemond
executiveYes. So again, as I mentioned, really successful, really excited, INCREASE clinical trial results that really was the first pivotal clinical trial to show a benefit in patients with PH-ILD. As you know, and maybe for those who are just new to the story, interstitial lung disease, or ILD, as I referred to, it is really a significant scarring of the lungs. It's often complicated by pulmonary hypertension, PH or high blood pressure, the lungs. But with that background, let me transition really to get to the heart of your question around opportunity. And one thing I'll compare it to is the existing PAH space. So we see today around 45,000 patients in WHO Group 1 PAH. They're being treated with over a dozen therapies in the current market. We estimate in WHO Group 3, which is PH-ILD, that opportunity to be about 30,000 patients in the U.S. where currently, as you know, there's no approved therapies for use to be treating these patients in WHO Group 3. And so we think with Tyvaso, if it's approved, we're looking to increase significantly, the number of patients that are prescribed Tyvaso. And just to follow-on with that, just to give you another sense of some of the trials when we think about opportunity. We also have the PERFECT clinical trial or study that was started, it is paused. It should restart very soon. But that PERFECT trial for pulmonary hypertension associated with COPD. That's under investigation with our PERFECT trial has a potential opportunity, we think, of about 100,000 patients that currently have no approved treatments for therapy. In addition, we're also pursuing opportunities in idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis, IPF outside of PH in our TETON studies, which could be an additional approximately 100,000 patients. And these patients currently have 2 treatment options that are considered really, maybe imperfect solutions by the medical community. But -- so just to give you a sense of where we frame the opportunity, not only in PH-ILD, which we think is significant, but also in these other indications that we're continuing to study.
Eun Yang
analystSo if we think a PH-ILD, you said about 30,000 patients in the U.S. So given the fact that there is no approved drug, and once the drug is approved, you guys have mentioned on the third quarter earnings call that you're going to be increasing your sales force, primarily focusing on PH-ILD. And realistically, what kind of penetration that you could achieve at peak? Out of 30,000 patients.
James Edgemond
executiveYes. Thank you, Eun. So let me kind of frame the question. So Michael Benkowitz, in a prior earnings call, I think, talked a little bit about his plans to increase the sales teams to address this new opportunity. And so let me kind of frame up maybe a little bit of a response relative to some prior discussions. But for PAH, we currently call on about 4,000 to 5,000 doctors. However, 80-plus percent of PAH patients are concentrated in about maybe half of those physicians. So we focus our efforts accordingly there. For PH-ILD and specifically that opportunity, we estimate that there are about a 25% overlap with our current call points, however, the number of treaters and concentration of patients is very similar, we believe, at this point to PAH and the research we've done. The other thing, maybe 2 things I would say is from a budget perspective, when we think about the SG&A and the costs associated with increasing the sales teams. We do still kind of apply and apply consistently the budget algorithm around 50% of prior year revenue really determines what we spend on an annual cash operating basis. So even with the increase of this opportunity in our sales teams, we're still going to be within our historical budget normal algorithms, where, again, we don't spend more than 50% of prior year revenues on our cash operating budgets in the next year. So it's just kind of a governor for us. And the last thing I would say, really, if I can add on one last thing, with respect to our hiring plans for PH-ILD, is that we're approaching this really around an April PDUFA date, right, for the Tyvaso sNDA. And as such, these hiring efforts that are ongoing and expected to be ongoing will be completed in the early part of next year. So that hiring ramp is kind of this year and going into next year in terms of scaling up to address the opportunities and new call points for PH-ILD.
Eun Yang
analystI see. So PH-ILD, so you mentioned that there is a 25% of physician will -- between PAH and PH-ILD. So when you target the other 75% of PH-ILD triggered population. Then do you the PH-ILD is a little bit more diffuse to patient population in terms of distribution? Or they are also in the concentrated centers that you can effectively focus with about 25% increase that we do in FDA.
James Edgemond
executiveWell, based upon the research so far, Eun, in terms of how we're going to structure this additional new sales teams. We believe it represents kind of what our experience has been around the existing PAH physicians and the prescribing physicians in terms of concentrating our efforts there. Obviously, if there's an opportunity where additional sales teams are redirecting some sales teams from this going in assumption. I'm sure Michael and the sales teams will want to make a pivot to that kind of opportunity. And certainly will do so accordingly. But we think at the moment, it kind of overlays how we're seeing the PAH prescribing community at this point.
Eun Yang
analystI see. Okay. So do you think the last two question on PH-ILD, do you think that you would have FDA panel prior to approval?
James Edgemond
executiveI do not believe that we will need FDA panel prior to approval. I know Dewey is on, and maybe I can just check with him in terms of maybe his experience.
Dewey Steadman
executiveYes, there was no mention of the need for an advisory committee meeting in the acceptance letter that we received in August.
James Edgemond
executiveThanks, Dewey.
Eun Yang
analystRight. And then, James, you mentioned TreT [indiscernible] is a dry powder formulation device combo. So I think on the third quarter earnings call, you said that PK studies to completing analyzing the data and Phase III study BREEZE switching study is underway, potentially completed by end of this year. So obviously, strategic focus on the data. Would you say in terms of the data timing and then how you released the data, would you release the PK data once they analyzed? Or would you combine the data with BREEZE data when it's available.
James Edgemond
executiveYes. Thank you, Eun. It's a great question. It's a program that we are incredibly excited about, and especially with our partnership with MannKind -- sorry, license agreement with MannKind regarding the TreT technology. So let me kind of answer your question and give a couple of points to kind of frame this opportunity that I said we are incredibly excited about. The first is, I'm glad to share kind of with you and announce that the BREEZE study has been fully enrolled at this point. So we expect last patient last visit sometime in December 2020. So I can say today with you that it has been fully enrolled, and we're really excited to share that with you. And as a reminder, just for those who may be new to the story, the BREEZE clinical study is evaluating the safety and the pharmakinetics of switching patients, PAH patients from Tyvaso to Treprostinil Technosphere. Also as a reminder, and you mentioned this, the pivotal pharmacokinetics study, which has been already completed, and we've talked about this, is the second clinical study in healthy volunteers to compare the pharmacokinetics of Treprostinil Technosphere to Tyvaso. So we'll spend the weeks following the conclusion of the BREEZE study, analyzing the data from BREEZE as well as a healthy volunteer PK data. And we're still on track for an NDA submission in the first half of 2021. The FDA has indicated a couple more points, but the FDA has indicated that these 2 studies, if successful, will be the only clinical studies that are necessary to support FDA approval. We also expect the stability work to be done by the end of the year. And one item, I think that's important to note, is that we expect the Tyvaso DPI packs, so which is used with TreT, will be refrigerated prior to use but can be stored at room temperature for up to 2-weeks before used by the patients. So when you think about the BREEZE study, there's really 3 components we've been working on, which is the BREEZE clinical trial, the PK study as well as stability. And I know that MannKind is working on a human factors test as well. But we're really excited about this program. And as you can tell, even within COVID, the teams have made tremendous progress. I mean, it's really a testament to the commitment and dedication of, what we call Unitherians, our employees within UT, to be able to really get through and fully enroll this BREEZE study, which is important to the program and ultimately, the filing overall. So really, really, really good news.
Eun Yang
analystOkay. So filing is for first half of next year, but when do we begin to see the data before the filing when the study is completed and data is analyzed?
James Edgemond
executiveYes. We're not going to, I think, commit right now to kind of press releases or visibility in the data. And I think as we get closer, we'll certainly make the decision on how we want to present it, whether it's separately or whether we included with any other public filings and earnings call. And I think some of that, Eun, is going to really be dependent upon kind of the timeline and the evaluation of the data overall. But I think it's an important one just to recognize today the progress that Unitarians have made really to get to this point, which has been a really tough year. But again, really, really good news to say the trial has been fully enrolled.
Eun Yang
analystYes. So we will track your filing first half of next year. Question 2 is that when you expand your market opportunity beyond PAH, PH-ILD into IPF kind of a broader indications. Why not run -- why not run restoration trial in those broad indications with the TreT? Why would you do that with Tyvaso? Seems like there would not be a huge time gap.
James Edgemond
executiveEun, you cut out a little bit, Eun. Is your question on using TreT in PH-ILD and other indications?
Eun Yang
analystYes. For example, TETON study?
James Edgemond
executiveYes. Well, right now, it's not approved, right? So I think it's really important to take the steps to get TreT approved and part of, I think, your embedded question, when you cut out a little bit is around PH in ILD. And we're certainly going to ask for that when we go to approval. But if it's not something that the FDA would approve based upon PH-ILD, the INCREASE trial and using the traditional Tyvaso nebulizer. We're certainly going to think about doing what we would call a BREEZE 2 study, to be able to provide the FDA the information to use, for example, TreT and PH-ILD. And remember, the BREEZE study was relatively small. It was 45 patients, each 3 weeks. So I think there's an opportunity to think about how we can work with the FDA. And if we need to do a separate BREEZE 2 study, we'll certainly do that, so we can present the data as quickly as possible to the FDA on the opportunity to use it in PH-ILD. But at this point, it's not approved. So I think we want to make sure we cross that hurdle.
Eun Yang
analystYes. So my question was a little bit on the TETON study, kind of expanded a broader opportunity for nailed product. So when you fire TreT first half of next year, approval could come probably early part of '22 and that you are starting TETON study next year. So it still feels like there is not huge time gap between TETON study start and then '20 approval. So why not use TreT to run TETON study instead of a Tyvaso?
James Edgemond
executiveI think it's a good question. I think the way the protocol is being developed for TETON, and Dewey correct me if I'm wrong, is not to use the TreT device, but to use what is an approved product in terms of what was used in the INCREASE trial for a successful trial. I think the opportunity going forward could certainly be to use the TreT device in the TETON studies. But I think the protocol has been written right now is around using the Tyvaso nebulizer. Dewey, I don't know if you have any more background to share with you?
Dewey Steadman
executiveNo. I think it's the most appropriate way for us to go about this considering our patients and to bring a product to market as quickly as possible. So there would be, and I was speculating here, that it would be 1 year-long lag getting TETON started out if we're waiting for a TreT approval, and that's a year that we're not addressing an unmet need in the IPF market.
James Edgemond
executiveI think, Eun, just to add on to Dewey's point. If you think about some of the dates that Martine has provided for the TETON study in the last earnings call, if we want to start enrolling a 400-patient study in the first quarter of 2021, one to do is point of addressing a population that, where we think, right, that's the hypothesis of the clinical trial is to have meaningful success. But two, I think trying to get this going as quickly as possible to satisfy this need is really, really important. And then I think there's ways, maybe longer-term, to think about working with the FDA in terms of using that device. But I think Dewey is right. The way the protocols and the timeliness of trying to address this opportunity is where we think we want to get the trial going with a protocol we know that worked well and the INCREASE clinical trial.
Eun Yang
analystOkay. In terms of Remodulin, you are developing a number of line extension products. So Remunity is going to be launched soon. And also implantable pump and other stuff. So when you think about your line extension products, your goal, is it kind of maintaining the Remodulin market share or expanding it? Or both?
James Edgemond
executiveWe think expanding it. So with Remunity, ISR and Trevyent, we do think we can expand the Remodulin patient population with improved convenience, really relative to the existing systems, you recall that we estimate right now 30% to 40% of our PAH patients refuse parenteral therapy. So there's ample opportunity really to expand the patient use using these new delivery devices. And remember, PAH is a very complicated disease, right? With a very heterogeneous profile. And if you think about it, that means there's really no 1 right option for all the variety of patients that unfortunately would get PAH. But by us continuing really to enhance our offer, enhanced and really next-generation for treprostinil options where there would be parental, and we can talk about inhaled or oral, we're really trying to maximize the opportunity and prospects that a patient will find to use treprostinil therapy ERP. And 1 really that their physician thinks is the best, best one for them. So we think not only the pump platform is just for Remodulin. But if you think about the other delivery devices, we can really expand our reach really, out to these patients who overall may have not tried a treprostinil therapy.
Eun Yang
analystI see. So when you expand your market opportunity in the parental therapy with the line extension products or Remodulin, would -- do that potentially impact investor Trevyent or TreT opportunity? [indiscernible] back?
James Edgemond
executiveWell, I -- well, 2 things, right. We do think providing a delivery device, right? And we talked about Remunity, ISR or Trevyent and even some of the TreT. We really want to provide an option where the physician provides the administration of treprostinil that's in the best and most effective way to treat that patient where they are, right, in the disease state. Really, that's the most important thing for us. So whether they choose 1 or the other. We're happy as long as that patient is getting the right administration in a way that's convenient and effective for them. But if you think about also like TreT, so Treprostinil Technosphere, that actually could be one that addresses an entirely new patient population in PH-ILD. So if we're able to secure for example, the INCREASE SNDA, get that approved in April, which we talked about, that can certainly expand that market opportunity for TreT. And we also think there's a lot of convenience factors around TreT. So I think to your point around what is a good device for patients in a broad perspective. That's what our goal is really to provide an opportunity for a patient to be administered our therapy in the best and most effective way overall. And that should expand and grow the market, if we think about Remodulin, and it could expand the market opportunity. If we think about Tyvaso and eventually into TreT and some of the new indications in PH-ILD.
Eun Yang
analystSo when you look at [indiscernible] to historically, majority of revenue has been generated in the U.S. right? And I think on the third quarter, even with PH-ILD, you want to focus on the U.S. first. But -- like when you look at new indications such as PH-ILD as well as the Remodulin line extension products, there could be significant opportunity outside the U.S. So can I ask you what you're kind of like a medium to long-term plan to expand into territories beyond the U.S.?
James Edgemond
executiveYes. Thank you, Eun. It's a good question. And 1 that we've gotten a few times, even today, kind of with some of the investors in the conference. I think our main focus, Eun, right now, is really to make sure that we get the PH-ILD, kind of the increased sNDA approved by the FDA. The U.S. market and the U.S. opportunity is large for us. And we think there's really an identified patient base that can benefit from our therapy. And so we do not want to kind of move our focus away right now in terms of getting U.S. FDA approval. It's a market that we know. It's a market that we do well in. I think to your point about ex-U.S. opportunity is clearly something that Michael and his team, Michael Benkowitz, who's our President of UT, is working on. It's something that is high on the list, something that he's evaluating, and we want to make sure we do it in a very thoughtful way. And we approach these international markets because there's a lot of complexity as well in terms of dealing with different countries, different reimbursement systems, pharmacokinetics and things of that nature that are unique. On sometimes a country-by-country basis or a regional basis. And so we are looking at it, but we want to be thoughtful, but we certainly don't want to distract ourselves from our first opportunity, which is really to get the increase in the PH-ILD opportunity approved in the U.S. and have a successful launch. But ex-U.S. revenues are certainly in top of mind and on the list of Michael Benkowitz and his team, and they're evaluating that.
Eun Yang
analystOkay. Will be about minute remaining time. James, would you give us closing remarks?
James Edgemond
executiveYes, Eun, thank you. And again, thank you for the opportunity today. We've enjoyed the conference in this fireside chat, as I mentioned, second time this year. But since we have a minute, and I'll quickly run through, I just want to spend a minute on how UT is really pivoting from being solely a PH company to becoming both a PH company as well as a pulmonary fibrosis and other forms of interstitial lung disease company. You're beginning to see this pivot with us really moving into a group of PH patients within WHO Group 3 and pulmonary hypertension is not really their primary medical challenge, but rather is interstitial lung disease. It's, of course, worsened by the pulmonary hypertension, but the source of their pulmonary hypertension is ultimately interstitial lung disease. So for the first time, we're moving into a group of patients for whom pulmonary hypertension is not their #1 problem. And secondarily, for the first time, we're moving into a large Phase-III study in which patients do not have pulmonary hypertension. They don't have it at all, and they simply have a form of interstitial lung disease. UT's pivoting is occurring with a new Phase III clinical trial program called TETON, which is comprised of one or more Phase-III studies of Tyvaso in subjects with various forms of chronic fibrosin interstitial lung disease. In the first study, the TETON study, we'll enroll patients with idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis. So this is the point that Martine talked about at the last earnings call. Then I just wanted to pull it through to give investors and also you, a sense of kind of a pivot at UT and I think, in the direction that we know well, and we expect to do well in. So thank you very much, Eun.
Eun Yang
analystThanks again [indiscernible] and thanks to you. Have a great day.
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