UPL Limited (UPL.NS) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

July 20, 2023

BSE Limited IN Materials Chemicals shareholder_meeting 35 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Dear shareholders, good afternoon, and a very warm welcome to the Extraordinary General Meeting of UPL Limited being held through video conferencing facility. [Operator Instructions] Please note that the recording of the proceedings of the meeting shall be made available on the website of the company. I now request Mr. Jai Shroff, Chairman, to commence the proceedings.

Jaidev Shroff

executive
#2

Dear shareholders, good afternoon, and very warm welcome. Welcome to the Extraordinary General Meeting of UPL being held through video conference facility. [Operator Instructions] So good afternoon, dear shareholders and fellow directors, ladies and gentlemen. I hope all of you and your families are keeping good health and are doing well. I request a quorum -- the requested quorum is present, and now I call the meeting to order. I would like to introduce my colleagues on the Board and others invitees who are attending the EGM today. At the onset, I'd like to welcome R.D. Shroff, Chairman Emeritus of UPL Group. The Directors present at the EGM are: Vikram Shroff, Non-Executive Director; Hardeep Singh, Lead Independent Director; Naina Kidwai, Independent Director; Suresh Kumar, Independent Director; Carlos Pellicer, Non-Executive Director; Raj Tiwari, Whole-Time Director. Dr. Vasant Gandhi is unable to attend the meeting since he's currently traveling due to prior engagements. I'm also pleased to welcome Usha Rao, who is proposed to be appointed as an Independent Director for the second term of 5 years in the forthcoming AGM. We also have with us Mr. Rajendra Darak, the Vice Chairman of the UPL Group; Mr. Anand Vora, our Chief Financial Officer; Sandeep Deshmukh, Company Secretary. Further, we have representatives from all our statutory auditors, BSR & Co. LLP attending the meeting. I now request Sandeep Deshmukh to begin the formal proceedings of the meeting. Over to you, Sandeep.

Sandeep Deshmukh

executive
#3

Thank you, Chairman, sir. Good afternoon, dear shareholders and other attendees. As the members are aware, this Extraordinary General Meeting has been convened using audio-visual means in compliance with circulars issued by Ministry of Corporate Affairs and Securities and Exchange Board of India. The company has taken all possible steps to ensure that the shareholders are provided with an opportunity to participate in the EGM, either through video conferencing facility or watch the live webcast and to vote on the resolution. As the EGM is being held through video conferencing, appointment of proxies is not applicable. The Board of Directors have appointed Mr. Bhaskar Upadhyay, Practicing Company Secretary, as the scrutinizer to ensure that remote e-voting and e-voting at EGM is conducted in a fair and transparent manner. The scrutinizer is also present at the meeting. The notice dated 23rd June 2023, convening this meeting has already been circulated electronically to the members of the company. And with your permission, I take it as read. The special resolution at Item #1, namely to approve business realignment consisting of slump sale of Specialty Chemical business to a wholly-owned subsidiary, namely UPL Specialty Chemicals Limited is proposed in the EGM notice for approval of the members. May I now request Mr. Jai Shroff, Chairman, to brief the members on the proposed resolution.

Jaidev Shroff

executive
#4

Thank you, Sandeep. I'm sure you have all gone through the EGM notice, wherein we have explained the proposal in detail. As the members are aware, the company began its journey of realignment of business with the intent to create sustainable pure-play business platforms. We completed the first phase of realignment by creating 2 distinct pure-play platforms, namely domestic crop protection business, UPL Sustainable Agri Solutions Limited and Advanta Seeds business as Advanta Enterprises Limited. Post the completion of the first phase, the company holds investment -- holds investment in UPL Sustainable Agri Solutions Limited and Advanta Enterprises Limited with minority stakes held by leading global PE investors. As part of the investment, the company presently has 2 verticals: specialty chemicals and formulation. With the successful completion of phase of realignment, we now propose to complete realignment process by transferring Specialty Chemical business undertaking through UPL Specialty Chemicals Limited, a wholly-owned subsidiary established by -- established specialty chemical as a pure-play manufacturing platform of global scale for consideration of INR 3,572 crores. The undertaking consists of 10 manufacturing units, which will be transferred as a slump sale basis on an ongoing concern. The formulation business, considering our 3 units and the R&D facility at Thane will be retained by the company. The realignment of the Specialty Chemicals business will facilitate scaling up of this business as -- at a faster pace, accelerating growth in the B2B AI manufacturing and will also help achieving better operating efficiency. The objective of this proposal has been explained in detail in this explanatory statement. In terms of provision of Section 180 of Companies Act 2013, the approval of shareholders is accordingly sought for the special resolution at Item #1 of the notice. Before the voting lines opened at EGM, we will be happy to answer any queries, if any, beyond this proposal. Sandeep?

Sandeep Deshmukh

executive
#5

Okay. Thank you, Chairman, sir. We would now like to make a few announcements before we begin question-and-answer session. The resolution contained in the EGM notice has already been put to vote through remote e-voting facility provided by the company. Members who have not yet cast their votes and who have -- who are participating in this meeting will have an opportunity to cast their votes during the meeting through the e-voting system provided by Link Intime. Members can click on the option, favor or bid against, happening against the resolution description on the InStaMeet platform to avail this feature. Voting lines are open for voting at the EGM for those shareholders who have not yet voted. We request the shareholders to limit their speech to 2 minutes in the interest of time and the same shall relate only to the matter content in the EGM notice. Also, we urge the members to avoid repetition of questions asked by the earlier speakers. For convenience of all, the Board and Management will respond to the queries at the end. We'll now begin question-and-answer session.

Operator

operator
#6

Thank you, sir. We have a few instructions for the members who have registered their names for the question-answer session. The participation at this meeting and the facility of joining the EGM through video conference is being made available to the members on first come first serve basis. All members joining this meeting are by default placed on mute mode to avoid any disturbance arising from the background noise and to ensure smooth and seamless conduct of the meeting. The names of the shareholders who have registered as speaker shareholders will be announced, and those shareholders will be unmuted. The speakers will be required to unmute the audio and the click on the video button from their side for the 2-way interaction. In case of any speaker shareholder is not able to join through video mode for any reason, they can continue through audio mode by asking their questions. We would request the speakers to use the earphones so that they are clearly audible, minimize any noise in the background, ensure that WiFi is not connected to any other device. In case there is a connectivity problem at speakers end, we will move on to the next speaker to join. The speakers are requested to finally mention their names and the location from where they are joining. And once you've asked your question, you can continue to watch the proceedings of the EGM. If a member faces any technical issue, you can contact on the helpline numbers provided by the EGM notice. I now ask the first speaker, Mr. Praful Chavda to ask his question. Please unmute your audio, video and proceed.

Unknown Executive

executive
#7

I think he is not there.

Sandeep Deshmukh

executive
#8

Okay. You can proceed with the new speakers.

Operator

operator
#9

Okay I now request Mr. Yusuf Rangwala, to ask his question, please unmute your audio, video and proceed.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#10

Hello?

Operator

operator
#11

Yes, sir, you are audible. Yes, we can hear you, sir.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#12

Sir, I will ask 3 questions, sir. Question number wise, question number one, why did the company considers a slump sale and not demerger of the business? Question number one. Question number two, are there any plans for investors in this company, just like S.S and Advanta. And sir, I would like to know one more thing. After these 2 companies, whether this company will be listing on NSE or BSE? Point number three, after the 3 slump sales, what will be -- what is a business left after this in the UPL, sir, I would like to know. After the 3 slump sales, what will be your business left with sir? And I would like to know one more thing, sir. What is total number of staff at present, sir. [Foreign Language]. Point number four. Point number five. Sir, after this business, which you are -- I'm supporting the resolution, my full support and full faith in you, sir. We would have one of the leading in this company, sir. I'm having full support with you, sir. My full support for this resolution, sir. And nothing more to add. [Foreign Language] how is your health, sir? I would like to know regarding your health, sir? How is your health sir? Health is good, sir?

Jaidev Shroff

executive
#13

Very good.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#14

Nothing more. How is your rain is going? Bombay, everything is raining, sir? Whether there is rain or no? Everything open, sir? I would like to know one more thing. Here raining is there [Foreign Language]. Thank you very much. May God bless our company, and [indiscernible] for giving me a link and also very excellent department, sir. Thank you very much, especially our Sandeep sir and his team for giving us link and also calling us, sir. Thank you very much [Foreign Language].

Operator

operator
#15

I now request Ms. Lekha Shah and Mr. Satish Shah to ask his questions. Please unmute your audio, video and proceed.

Unknown Executive

executive
#16

Lekha ma'am, you are unmuted. You can proceed with the question. Lekha ma'am, you are unmuted. Can you please process with the question.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#17

Hello. Can you hear me, sir.

Operator

operator
#18

Yes, ma'am.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#19

Thank you, ma'am. Respected Chairman, sir, Board of Directors, [indiscernible]. Good afternoon to all of you. Myself Lekha Shah from Mumbai. I acknowledge the timely receipt of notice, which was sent [indiscernible] time, our Company Secretary, Sandeep sir, and Ajit sir. [Technical Difficulty]. I believe any decision taken by Chairman sir will be good for shareholders. Chairman sir, I pray to God that He always showers his blessings upon you. Chairman sir, [Foreign Language]. Sir, what is the total [Technical Difficulty]. So I strongly and wholeheartedly support the special resolutions for today's meeting and my best wishes always to our company and its prosperity.

Sandeep Deshmukh

executive
#20

Can you please repeat the question? Ma'am, can you please repeat the question? We could not hear you.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#21

Sir, what is the total number of employees? And how many women employees are working in our company?

Sandeep Deshmukh

executive
#22

Thank you, ma'am. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#23

Mr. Satish Shah, please, can you go ahead and ask a question?

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#24

Madam, Satish Shah [Foreign Language]. Thank you so much.

Operator

operator
#25

I now request Mr. Suresh Jain to ask his question. Please unmute your audio, video and proceed.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#26

Hello? [Foreign Language]

Unknown Executive

executive
#27

Yes, we can hear you, you can ask the question.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#28

[Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#29

Now I request Mr. Praful Chavda as he's already in, please ask your question. Unmute your audio, video and proceed.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#30

Chairman, sir, Board of directors. [Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#31

I now request Mr. Anil Parikh to his question. Please unmute your audio, video and proceed.

Unknown Executive

executive
#32

Person with the said name is not connected in this conference.

Operator

operator
#33

I now request Mr. Gaurav Rajatkar to ask his questions. Please unmute audio, video and proceed.

Unknown Executive

executive
#34

This person with the said name is not connected.

Operator

operator
#35

I now request Ms. Celestine Mascarenhas to ask her question. Please unmute your audio, video and proceed.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#36

Hello? Am I audible?

Operator

operator
#37

Yes, ma'am, you are audible.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#38

Respected Chairman Emeritus, Mr. Raj Shroff; Chairman, Jai Shroff; Members of the Board, Madam specially, my fellow shareholders attending this virtual meet, I am Mrs. C. Mascarenhas. I'm attending from Mumbai. First of all, I thank the Company Secretary for registering me and for sending me an e-notice of the demerger, not demerger, slump sales, and registering me as a speaker at my request, thank you so much and also giving me this platform to speak. I'm very obliged for the full team. Now I come directly to this resolution. See, this as a slump sale, the specialty chemicals, which are 10 units, will be going through UPL Specialty Chemicals Limited, a wholly-owned subsidiary of UPL, and this will handle all the specialty business. That's what I understand. Then we will have a UPL formulation business and R&D will be at UPL. Now I only want to know what made us, I mean the Board to make it as a slump sale of the specialty business and whether in future once it becomes very strong, now specialty chemicals are a little bit down in the international market also. And here, I would like to know whether you have refrigeration, chemicals -- specialty chemicals for refrigeration also because these are very high price, like Navin Fluorine has and that's why the market cap of Navin Fluorine is always flying high. So I would like to know if in future, this UPL Specialty Chemicals business becomes very strong. Will it be listed and gives value to us, to say anything? I know this company and the whole group very well. I used to come in those good old days to Vapi also and always be there and participatory. So I wish you all, all the best and especially, I remember Madam very much. With this, I wish you all, all good health and may our company grow instant to strength. And now Mr. Mascarenhas, he's also would welcome to Vapi. He also wants to say just 2 lines of appreciation.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#39

Hello? Hello, can I proceed?

Unknown Executive

executive
#40

Yes, please.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#41

Respected Chairman sir, very distinguished members of the Board and my fellow shareholders, good evening to you all. My name is Aloysius Mascarenhas. I am a very old shareholder of this company. I -- we both used to come to Vapi and attend all the meetings, AGMs. So we have never forgotten our company and will always remain loyal to this company, which has done so much to us and the shareholders. And my question now is only two. Sir, we are exporting to many countries of the world, and we must be receiving most of the revenue by way of dollars. Dollar is increasing day by day against the rupee. So what is our net revenue by way of dollar increase? And another thing, sir, who are our peers and competitors, both in the domestic and in the international market? And what is our market share. Sir, I don't want to ask more since many questions have been asked. So I wish you personally all the Board members, Madam Sandra others for giving me this patient hearing. Thank you. God bless you.

Operator

operator
#42

I now request Ms. Shobhana Mehta to ask her questions. Please unmute your audio, video and proceed.

Unknown Executive

executive
#43

Shobhana ma'am, please can you unmute and ask your question. Yes, we can hear you now.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#44

Can you hear me?

Operator

operator
#45

Yes, ma'am. We can hear you, ma'am. You can go ahead.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#46

Respected Chairman, Raju bhai, Jai bhai, Shrimati Sandra ji [Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#47

Thank you, ma'am. Dear shareholders, we now take a break of 5 minutes, after which the shareholders' queries will be answered. Please stay with us. [Break]

Operator

operator
#48

Welcome back everyone, I now request the Management team to reply to the queries.

Jaidev Shroff

executive
#49

Welcome back. Thank you for all your questions. I'm very happy to answer some of them. And my colleague, Sandeep and Rajendra Darak will answer the rest. As far as the specialty chemical and chemical industry is concerned, chemical industry has seen a huge growth in the past 5 years and UPL Chemical manufacturing platform, which has been a core strength of the whole group has become one of the largest specialty chemical and manufacturing platform in the country and one of the leading ones in the world. Today, we are catering not only to the agrochemical business, which is traditionally where UPL is present, but we are catering to a huge other sectors, such as dyes industry, such as pharmaceutical industry, such as fire retardant industry, water treatment chemical industry, EV industry and many other futuristic and growing sectors in the world. The demand for specialty chemicals will continue to grow as the Indian GDP continues to grow, and we believe that this business needs a special focus. Creating a 100% subsidiary will create a dedicated focus and allow us to focus on being -- continuing to be a leader in fulfilling the needs of not only in India, but around the world. As the China Plus One strategy continues to unfold, Europe and the U.S. will depend more and more on India to be a manufacturing hub. And our subsidiary chemical -- specialty chemical company will be benefited by this hugely. Today, the opportunity for the sector in all these areas, is huge. And I believe that this business unit requires a dedicated focused attention to be able to cater to all the needs, which are required in a growing economy where we are talking about doubling our GDP every 5 to 7 years. And I believe that, that opportunity is huge. As far as the slump sale and the other aspects, we believe that the value generated by our subsidiary for the shareholders will be enormous. The Board of the company and the management will continuously evaluate options to create better shareholders value going forward. And all these details will be shared with you as expected time to time after proper consideration and understanding of how to create additional shareholder value. At the present time, there is no discussion about listing the company, but that is always an option to unlock shareholder values. As far as our staff in the whole group is about 14,000 people, and we have about 15% is women, about 2,000 women work in the group. I now hand over to Rajendra and to Sandeep to answer the rest of the questions.

Rajendra Darak

executive
#50

I think that you did cover the question on slump sales versus demerger. I think that was one of the questions from the members. I think as Jai alluded from -- for 2 aspects. One is we wanted it to remain the specialty chemicals to be part of the group, and with the intention that's why we've created a 100% wholly-owned subsidiary. And the most efficient and the defined time frame to execute was a slump sale because any other process, including demerger, would have necessitated too many regulatory approvals, which could have delayed and taken unpredictable time equally on the context. And since it's a 100% whole-owned subsidiary, the slump sale was the most efficient way to get there. Thank you.

Sandeep Deshmukh

executive
#51

So to answer the last question, there was a question about number of employees. So UPL as a group has more than 14,000 employees. And there are about a little above 2,600 women employees in the group. So I thank the Board members, Executives of the company and the shareholders for participating in the EGM. Mr. Bhaskar Upadhyay, scrutinizer, is authorized to oversee the voting process for those shareholders, who have not yet cast their votes. The voting lines will remain open for 15 minutes. The voting results will be announced on or before 22nd July 2023 and shall be disseminated to the stock exchanges and will also be placed on the website of the company and Link Intime India Pvt. Ltd. Thank You.

Jaidev Shroff

executive
#52

Hardeep?

Hardeep Singh

executive
#53

Good afternoon, dear shareholders. On behalf of the Board, I'd like to thank all of you for attending this meeting. You're part of a great company, and we value our relationship with you. We wish you well, good health and a long future with UPL. God bless.

Operator

operator
#54

Thank you, sir. We request all the members who are not yet cast their vote to do so within 15 minutes. Thank you.

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