US Foods Holding Corp. (USFD) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
January 14, 2025
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Kelly Bania
analystGood morning, everyone. I'm Kelly Bania, Food Retail Analyst at BMO Capital. Happy to have this opportunity to have a fireside chat here with US Foods, second largest food service distributor in the U.S. We're just going to dive right in and given the short meeting here. But thanks to ICR for hosting another great conference. And thanks for taking the time to meet with everybody. So just, obviously, to my left, CEO, Dave Flitman, and CFO, Dirk Locascio. I have a million questions as usual. But -- maybe we can start with some opening prepared remarks if that makes sense.
David Flitman
executiveJust a couple of things I wanted to say for maybe those that aren't as familiar with the story, but good morning, Kelly, and thanks for doing this. Look, from a competitive standpoint, we have distinct competitive advantages in our industry. I just wanted to highlight those quickly. So all in our space, we're the only pure-play U.S.-only focused distributor. And I think that matters. Our story is a bit simpler than others, but importantly, inside the company, it allows us to focus in a really deep way on the things that are going to matter in broadline distribution. Secondly, we're the only ones that are focused on the 3 fastest growing and more profitable customer types in the space, that being independent restaurants, health care and hospitality. And importantly, we've been at those 3 targeted customer types for a very long time. and have a long track record of taking profitable market share, and we expect that will continue. Third, we have been and continue to be the industry leader in digital technology. That's an area we pride ourselves on at the heart of why we drive digital is to make it easier for our customers to do business for us, and we also believe there's incremental sales force productivity and uplift because of that digital technology. Excitingly, we -- ours is very much a self-help story. We've talked a lot about our initiatives in both gross profit, operating expenses, and we expect that work to continue into our new long-range plan. Excited about our new long-range plan. We're excited about the one we're just wrapping up here in 2024. But we laid out in June, the fastest growth algorithm in the industry, and we've got a lot of confidence in being able to hit that. And importantly, that growth algorithm is underpinned by $4 billion of cash flow that we expect to generate over the next 3 years with about half of that being deployed to share repurchases. So we've got a great model. We've been winning. We're excited about the future, and we've got good momentum going into '25.
Kelly Bania
analystGreat. Maybe just to follow on that, Dave, it's been 2 years really since almost exactly since you've been with the company. So -- just maybe start with a reflection on the progress that you've been able to make in those 2 years, the receptivity to the changes you're making, just kind of a look back at those first 2 years.
Dirk Locascio
executiveYes. I think we've had a great first 2 years with the organization. I mean, it was everything I hoped when I was contemplating the change 2.5 years ago coming in here. We've got an organization that's highly focused on the customer. and that's really important. It matters a lot in distribution. I just reflect back on the Long Range Plan that we're finishing up here, and we'll talk more about that in a couple of weeks when we have our earnings release. But I had the opportunity to change that and modify that when we came in. And I know there were a lot of questions about whether we could do what the company had said before I joined, we were going to do. And I was pretty thoughtful about that over the first 6 months, and I did not change it. And the reason I didn't change it, there are a couple of reasons. One is we were largely -- the organization was focused in the right areas. So I didn't see a lot of voids and things that the organization should be doing that they weren't. But importantly, I brought an element of focus and a strong bent towards execution since I've gotten here. And to your last question, I think the organization has been really receptive to all that.
Kelly Bania
analystOkay. Maybe to just follow on that. So the 3-year outlook you outlined a very detailed plan this summer. I guess as you think about that plan, where do you see the most upside to that? Where do you see the most risk to achieving that? And I think the particular focus maybe on the top line target of that 5% to 8% kind of top line over that 3-year period?
Dirk Locascio
executiveSo we were very thoughtful obviously, before we put those targets out there. And as I said earlier, it was the fastest growth algorithm in the industry, and we've got a lot of confidence in being able to hit those targets. A couple of things I would say, importantly is, first of all, we've got really good momentum in all areas of the P&L, and we have for quite some time. That obviously informed the targets that we put out there. Secondly, to your concern around case growth. Ours is very much a self-help story, first of all. And I think the third quarter, our most recently reported quarter just underpins in the quarter that's been the lowest foot traffic in the restaurant space since the COVID recovery. We actually hit the new growth algorithm. And I think that's an important point for people maybe who aren't as confident in our ability to do that. We've done it without any macro tailwind. I think that's an important point, and I want to just emphasize that point. In terms of upside to the plan, I think we're still in the early innings, Kelly, of the self-help work that we've been working on here for the past couple of years, and I think that's going to carry the day when you think about gross profit, the things we're doing to drive private label penetration with our customers. Importantly, that saves them a bunch of money and it's -- those cases are twice as profitable for us as a manufacturer brand. The work we've been doing for a long time now around strategic vendor management. And I'd just point out that we do that very much in a partnership with our suppliers. It's not a punitive thing. And importantly, those suppliers, those manufacturers looking for growth. So our ability to continue to outpace the market growth in those 3 customer types that we're driving -- is a really important key to the success that we're having with that work. And then the last point I would make around the case growth, '24 was some noise in it, given the macro and all that low foot traffic. But importantly, if you go back to 2023, we hit that 5% to 8% in every quarter in 2023. That also informs our confidence to put those targets out there. So we feel good about the momentum, and we feel good about the targets.
Kelly Bania
analystThat's a good point. I want to follow up on the restaurant traffic because that gets a lot of attention. Everyone sees the numbers, others are talking about it, but you have been able to hit your targets despite what is happening at restaurant traffic. So I guess question is...
Dirk Locascio
executiveAnd importantly, we're not doing anything crazy. We're doing that in a sustainable way for the business.
Kelly Bania
analystDo you think there's too much focus on that by investors? And what how could that -- how positive could that be if restaurant traffic did start to improve? Would that be kind of an upside? It seems like maybe your plan assumes a very conservative assumption for restaurant traffic -- is the point I'm trying to get at.
David Flitman
executiveYes. Obviously, I understand the focus that investors have on it. It's kind of the life-blood of the industry and the growth. But I'd point out to since 1970, all but a handful of years, food away from home has outpaced food at home. We expect. We don't see anything on the horizon that would change that trend over the long term. But just like in other areas, things ebb and flow. Obviously, I'd like to have a stronger macro, we'd benefit from that. The other point I made in the third quarter, and Dirk and I talk a lot about this, our ability to continue to take market share is extremely important. And we did that in a relatively soft macro environment in the third quarter. And if you recall, we actually accelerated our market share gains from Q2 to Q3. Okay, when the macro comes back, we're going to be in an even stronger position with our customers. So we're running our playbook. It's working, and we've got a lot of confidence in our execution.
Kelly Bania
analystOne more kind of on this topic, and then I want to switch gears, but what do you think is the hindrance for better restaurant traffic? And you've seen some of the kind of the value players get maybe a little bit more aggressive? Do you think the restaurants need to do more of that. What other pain points are you hearing from your restaurant customers today?
David Flitman
executiveWell, I think, obviously, there's been a lot of pain for the consumer I think that's the driver. But as you look at the operator, just think about pre-COVID and the cost that they've absorbed since then in terms of inflation, labor cost inflation, interest rates haven't been their friend -- in terms of lease cost and the things. So there's been a lot of cost pressure. And that's why it's so important that our playbook gets run effectively for our customers because a lot of what we do, including our private label brands, helps reduce their cost to operate. The work that we do with MOXe makes it a more efficient and seamless engagement with us. They don't spend the time dealing with that. We talk a lot about our products and the time that it saves them in the kitchen. Our private label brands oftentimes are precooked, prepackaged, and we're saving them 30 to 60 minutes per case. That matters in a high labor environment. So I think those challenges just play to our model verywell.
Kelly Bania
analystThat makes sense. I guess question -- a couple of questions on market share. So you mentioned the focus areas that the company has been focused on for many years. You have a 10% total market share, but then you have a higher share with independents and health care and hospitality. I think those numbers outlined at the Analyst Day were 18%. So I guess the question is that we often get is just about the competitive cycles within those different segments, whether it be independents, which is usually the big focus, health care and hospitality and then other chains. So how would you rate the competition in each one of those segments? And how does your market share position kind of influence how that plays out?
David Flitman
executiveI'll start and ask Dirk to give a little historical color on that. The way I couch our industry in those segments and just broadly with food-service distribution, it's a very fragmented industry. It's highly competitive just by nature. We saw that change a little bit during COVID. I think, I would couch this as a very normalized competitive environment, which is always highly, highly competitive.
Kelly Bania
analystThat's me. Just getting excited about that.
David Flitman
executiveBut I don't see anything in the industry. It's highly competitive just by nature. We saw that change a little bit during COVID. I think I would couch this as a very normalized competitive environment, which is always highly competitive.
Kelly Bania
analystThat's me. Just getting excited about that.
David Flitman
executiveBut I don't see anything more or less competitive than we have historically. Dirk's got a lot more time with the organization. I don't know if you want to weigh in there.
Dirk Locascio
executiveI think that's exactly right. And then the other thing with our focus in those 3 areas is so they are the -- typically the most profitable, the biggest profit pool in the industry. And the area where we think we can differentiate them. And so whether it's the technology, the service models, and that's what we've continued to double down on and serving those customers more effectively and differentiating. And so from a share perspective, that's why we over-index and why you'll expect us to continue to talk about gaining share a focus on those three types. Other customer types, such as chains, like we've said, all chains are good and are bad. We're going to continue to optimize that and serve where it makes sense. But back to the point of the differentiation that focus on those 3 customer types is what we're going to continue to double down on. And that market share gain, that's an important part of our self-help story that Dave talked about. It's about self-help on the top line, it's self-help in gross profit and self-help and productivity, all driving that fastest industry algorithm.
Unknown Analyst
analystOne of the questions I often get that I thought would be good to address was -- just with all the advantages that the three have -- scale, you are definitely kind of positioned as a lead of some of the technology front. But even private label. The question I often get is why not -- why are the Big 3 not gaining more share? What are those smaller kind of competitors? What do they do well? And what can you learn from them to kind of incorporate into kind of your strategy as well?
David Flitman
executiveI think the smaller players have been around a long time. They're typically local or the best regional compete in two areas, I think, really well. One is relationship, local relationship and second is service. You've heard me say a lot that I don't think that anyone has been consistently excellent in service in this industry. We aim to turn that into a competitive weapon through time. That's why we're so excited about the momentum we have on improving our service levels. Just a quick aside on -- that. When we -- went into COVID, we started to measure service to our customers differently. We measured it a success if we're able to satisfy the customer order with substituted products. Going into '24, we changed that went back to measuring it the way the customer feels it. They want what they order on time and full every time. And when I -- when you hear me come and say that we're reaching historically high service levels in the company, it's that measurement. It's on time in full with exactly what the customer ordered. We've got a lot of work to do, but I feel really good about the momentum we've gotten over the last couple of years in that area.
Dirk Locascio
executiveSo in these venues, we talk a lot about all the things we have on self-help within the P&L. And so to Dave's point, we've also got a similar series of activities going on service, quality, safety, that are really around that customer experience since research has shown us over the years that no one is really that differentiated. So improving our experience that, we provide to the customers is an important part and another set of things that we're doing to continue to improve.
Kelly Bania
analystOkay. And I guess the key focus for -- key KPI, I guess, is always the independent case growth, given the margin structure there. I think you've talked about a 30% to 50% leverage on the growth of the sales force and how that results in case growth. So I guess, has anything changed over time with that formula, whether it's MOXe or different tools that you're giving to your sellers? Or is that kind of a formula that we should think about going forward once that sales rep gets to maturity?
David Flitman
executiveI think that's been a historically valid way to think about it, and I think it will be the right way to think about it going forward. There's a lot of dynamics that goes into sales individual sellers productivity, particularly with the new hires, it depends on their background and whether they've been in the industry a while, what role they've had if they have been or whether they come from outside the industry. And we hire all of that. And so we've got a mix of talent coming on all the time. But I think at steady state, that 30% to 50% is the right way absolutely to think about it.
Kelly Bania
analystOkay. And what about the other question we get a lot about is comp structure for that sales force. And there had been some changes. How is that going? What's the feedback from your sales reps? And should we anticipate any more changes?
David Flitman
executiveSo look -- we get this question a lot. I think there's too much meat about the tweak we made a year ago. And let me just describe that for you. Predominantly, that change was moving from 70% fixed and 30% variable back to a more balanced 50-50, which is the way the company operated prior to COVID -- or basically just going back to where we were. We made a couple of other tweaks around making sure we have the right incentives in place for our private label brands, for instance. Largely, that was accepted well by the sales force. We did not thoughtfully make any changes going into 2025, but that doesn't mean we would never change anything going forward. That's something we'll always constantly review and make sure we're hitting the sweet spot and getting the behavior we need -- our sales force, but feel good about where we are right now.
Kelly Bania
analystOkay. That's great. Another question, a big topic, obviously, new administration coming in next week. Tariffs has been a big topic. What are you looking at that we've seen so far from this administration that could be impactful to you -- either way positive or negative?
David Flitman
executiveDirk do you want to take that one?
Dirk Locascio
executiveSo we're following the broad range of things closely like a lot of companies. But our expectation is -- it's probably less of an impact for us in our industry than a lot of others. Two main areas that we focus on is, one is you made reference to tariffs. We think it will be less of an impact for our industry just because the bulk of the product comes from within the U.S. A couple of examples -- produce, for example, sometimes the year comes from places like Mexico and you have some non-food products that came in from overseas, but the bulk is within the U.S., so pretty limited impact there. The other place would be around taxes. So for us being a wholly U.S. company. We probably are not the example of paying our fair share of taxes. We do pay our fair share. There's always so much tax planning you can do. So to the extent there were any reductions in tax rates, we would probably pretty fully benefit from that. So those are the two main areas -- but again, our expectation overall for our whole industry would be pretty limited at this point.
Kelly Bania
analystOkay. It makes sense. And then, Dave, you mentioned the work that you're doing with suppliers. And the way that kind of you outlined it on the next 3-year plan, it's a pretty significant contributor to that EBITDA growth, and that bottom line growth. So maybe can we just talk about that in more detail? You sound like it's -- really a partnership. You're really working with those vendors that are driving growth. How does -- how can you continue to pull this kind of savings for the organization, what should we expect with your SKU count going forward? Just help us understand how you execute a program like this.
David Flitman
executiveYes. So we've been at it for a long time, Dirk escribes this as the third to fourth cycle he's seen in his tenure with the company. But importantly, it is predicated, Kelly on the growth that we're able to achieve, and that's a consistent performance that our vendors have seen. We very much do that in partnership with our vendors. So as we're able to provide that outsized growth in certain products that they have, they're willing to incent us in a number of ways that could be a rebate. That could be marketing dollars to market their products -- or other areas of combined drive growth for the industry. We've been at it for a long time. Our vendors are excited about the future. Importantly, we said recently, we would deliver $230 million in the LRP, we're just wrapping up and accelerate that to $260 million. There are a couple of things that we started to do differently in that work in 2024 -- that helps inform that future target. One of those I'd point to is the tail of our vendors. So think about smaller vendors in size and scale with less products. That's an area the company really historically did not focus on. It's a little more complicated. It's more tedious, just as the other number of vendors involved. We got after that in an aggressive way in the back half of '24. And then secondly, Historically, it's been at the vendor level that we've thought about it. We started to tweak our approach still underpinned with that vendor approach, but starting to look deeper in the product categories, category by category, to make sure that we're thinking about those categories right in terms of the both products, the number and types of vendors that we have in those areas. And so I think those couple of varies on top of the work we've historically done will help inform the future target.
Kelly Bania
analystOkay. That's very helpful. The other thing that seemed to kind of be rolling out very smoothly is the new routing system, which is a big change, I would think, execute that at a DC level. So I think you're up to maybe almost 50% of the miles maybe by now. But maybe just an update on that, the feedback that you're getting from both sales and operations as you've kind of rolled that out?
David Flitman
executiveSure, Dirk you want to talk about that?
Dirk Locascio
executiveSure. So you're right on track to be about 50% of miles at this point and expect to largely be done end of 2025. And as we -- like with new technologies, again, we went slow in the beginning, and then we've been in full deployment through there. And so overall, we're able to deliver a better service experience to the customer from an on-time perspective. As we've deployed it, what we've done is we've taken advantage of a number of the capabilities. But you haven't fully turned the dials. What we don't -- is we don't want sales, operations, customer to feel like their experience is extremely different -- versus take advantage of some things to slightly improve on time, and then we continue to improve that experience over time. But we're very pleased, and I think the the work we did on the front-end that we've talked a lot about over the last 1.5 years on the process side of options and sales working together, really set up well for the front-end work that needed done before we rolled out Descartes and that's really been a key enabler of a successful rollout to date.
David Flitman
executiveAnd just to piggyback on that, that work that Dirk talks about, you can't change routing without impacting the customer. So we've done this in partnership with our customers. And when he says that the customer is going to have a better experience. We mean from a service standpoint, hitting the targeted delivery windows, every time on time and in full. And so we've been able, through this work to tighten those delivery windows and get them right for the customers, in that when he said, go slow to go fast. There's a lot of work involved upfront before we roll that out in the markets, and we're doing a good job of it.
Kelly Bania
analystAnd are you able to -- do you have any metrics on service levels in that half that have already had this system deployed versus the other half? Or are you seeing -- is there anything you can share on that front?
Dirk Locascio
executiveSure. Without specific numbers, we have seen an improvement in cases per mile in those markets above and beyond. And then the on-time experience, just a better sort of definition of the customer expectation, to Dave's point of when they expect the on time. And then saying -- as it gets implemented, to see that continue to improve. And our expectation is that will continue.
Kelly Bania
analystAnd then maybe just I thought -- I think we have 2 or 3 minutes left, maybe just an update on the acquisitions the past few years. We've had Saladino, Renzi, iWC. How are integrations going what have we learned so far? And what are the key priorities going forward as you think about M&A?
David Flitman
executiveI'll just hit this quickly and then flip it to Dirk. We're excited about all 3 of them. They're going extremely well, at or better than what we anticipated when we acquired them. Our M&A strategy is very much tuck-ins. And when I say tuck-ins, it's the smaller local acquisitions that we're targeting. I love our footprint. We're in all the major MSAs across the country. The opportunity in what we did with each one of those acquisitions was improve our local market density and get more efficient in how we get our products to the customers. That was really the strategy behind all of those, and we're quite pleased with the progress, and Dirk can talk a little bit about the integration work that we've done there.
Dirk Locascio
executiveGot it. And that local density and the integration is an important part that you'll continue to hear as we talk about future acquisitions. And what we're focusing on is going to continue to be, as Dave said, the broad line tuck-ins. And it's those where they have a strong mix of independents. They have a strong focus on the customer. We think would be good cultural fits and help us take miles out of the system by being closer to the customers. In each of the one in New York, one in Nashville are good examples of doing that. And then when we do integrate them, we do bring them onto our systems, but we have a very thoughtful process, again, because we want to make sure that whether it's the local team, the customers, they realize that things aren't changing overnight that the experience they're used to in the service. We're going to continue that, and we're going to build on with some of the advantages from US Foods, the things we talked about earlier today. The technology, the added product assortment, et cetera. And then over the first typical year, we will then bring them onto our systems as well.
Kelly Bania
analystOkay. We have 1 minute left. Maybe, Dirk, just for you. One of the different elements about the next 3-year plan is really the free cash flow and particularly the free cash flow that's being allocated towards buyback? So maybe can you comment on just the thought process there and -- from my point of view, I don't know if -- The Street is modeling all of that in. Maybe some are just a little bit more conservative on that front given it's a multiyear kind of plan there. But -- just the thought process and how you looked at that allocation of that? I think it's $4 billion over the next years.
Dirk Locascio
executiveYes, that's right, $4 billion of cash flow as a result of the strong P&L algorithm that we've outlined. We will continue to invest in a very healthy way in the business and CapEx to continue to maintain and expand the business. We will -- we don't need much from a debt pay down. We do see leverage, which is already a very healthy place. We finished the third quarter at 2.8x, well within our 2x to 3x target range. We expect to see that drift down some over the period -- worth earnings growth versus debt pay-down. We've spent a lot of energy over the last few years, getting our leverage to a very healthy place, and I feel good about our capital structure. And then we'll continue to opportunistically pursue tuck-in M&A, and that leaves the roughly $2 billion towards share repurchases. And the combination of looking at what one of our competitors traded at pre-COVID plus what we would expect a share price to do with the earnings outlook we have, like it's a very good use of capital over the period of time and happy to deploy it in that way and take advantage of the strong cash flow the business is operating, both from and generating from earnings as well from effective working capital management.
Kelly Bania
analystPerfect. Well, I think we have to wrap it there, but thank you so much.
David Flitman
executiveThank you.
Dirk Locascio
executiveAppreciate it Kelly.
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