Valterra Platinum Limited (VAL) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
November 5, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorGood day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Anglo American Platinum's Media Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference call is being recorded. I'd now like to hand the conference over to the CEO, Natascha Viljoen. Please go ahead, ma'am.
Natascha Viljoen
executiveOkay. Thank you so much, and good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining this Anglo American Platinum briefing call at such a short notice. I'm joined here today by Craig Miller, our Finance Director. You would have seen that since announcement that we've released this morning that we have made the preemptive decision to close ACP B units following a series of water leaks. We have been indicating through the year and again in our Q3 production report on the 22nd of October that the ACP B has been fragile since start of early in the year. We have increased the monitoring control and controls around our ACP Phase B units to be able to continually assess the condition of the converter plant. And it has served us well to this point in discovering water leaks, helping us to shut down the furnace safely and bring it back up safely. Our primary concern has always been for the safety of our employees as well as ensuring a safe operating environment and protecting the integrity of our plant and surrounding assets. However, given the increase in the number of leaks and further repair work required at this stage to repair the late series of leaks on our Phase B unit, we took the decision to close Phase B unit at this stage. The ACP management team has really done an extraordinarily good work to keep Phase B operating safely over the past number of months. And now the focus can solely be on finalizing the construction of ACP A and commissioning. And that is very well on track to start out towards the end of this year, and they have managed to pull it forward from Q2 next year into this year. So this is also part of a broader asset integrity strategy that we have rolled out across our business. And in line with this, our Phase B unit will now undergo a full rebuild in 2021. We will do in a way to mitigate the risk that we have only Phase A up and running. There are portion of Phase B that is of higher risk than others, and we will schedule it in a way to allow us to target the high-risk areas first and then the low-risk areas that will allow us that, if necessary, we will have a backup. Also probably just important to note that all our long lead items for the rebuild of ACP B is already on site. So that brings us then to the impact for the remainder of the year. So from a refined production perspective, as of the end of October, the company has refined 2.4 million PGM ounces. The closure of ACP B unit until it ACP Phase A unit is recommissioned will result in an increase in our working process inventory, and this will be released the moment we get ACP A up and running. We've made significant progress, as I mentioned, in Phase A unit, and it remains on track to commission before the end of the year. As a result of the closure of ACP Phase B unit, we've lowered both our refined and production guidance -- sorry, refined production and sales guidance for 2020 to circa 2.5 million PGM ounces. And previously, this was 3.1 million and 3.3 million PGM ounces. There's no change to our other guidance, as all the operations are running well. And so M&C production remains between 3.6 million and 3.8 million PGM ounces. We do have contingency plans in place, and we will be engaging with our customers to minimize any disruption to contractual obligations. We can now take questions.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Allan Seccombe of Business Day.
Allan Seccombe
attendeeA number of questions. I noticed that there's no force majeure declared now. Is there a reason for that?
Natascha Viljoen
executiveAllan, we will continue to manage our obligations within our contractual agreements. And I think we are encouraging our customers to ensure that we can do that.
Allan Seccombe
attendeeOkay. So does Anglo have enough metal? Can it source enough metal in the market to meet those contractual obligations until ACP A is up and running?
Natascha Viljoen
executiveWe are certainly working with our customers, Allan, to make sure that we can comply to obligations and meet their needs.
Craig Miller
executiveSorry, Allan, just to complement that, as Natascha states that, our contingency plans have been put in place in order to mitigate any impact to them.
Allan Seccombe
attendeeOkay. Would this be a purchase of metal off the markets to meet those contractual obligations?
Natascha Viljoen
executiveAllan, those are all work in progress, on progress at the moment. Between conversations with our customers and sourcing metal, we also have metal in the pipeline on the other side of ACP that we will be maximizing as much as possible.
Allan Seccombe
attendeeAnd then the -- 2 questions following that. The cost of the rebuild of ACP B in 2021, I mean, what has been spent on ACP A up to this point?
Craig Miller
executiveAllan, on ACP A, you recall that our guidance was between ZAR 500 million and ZAR 600 million. We're still operating within that capital range. So that's still underway. Clearly, obviously, with regards to the ACP B and the rebuild, we'll provide you updated guidance on that. I can't, on the top of my head, just remember that number, but it is something that we're working through at the moment. So we'll come back to you.
Allan Seccombe
attendeeOkay. And then, Craig, while I've got you on this one. The cost of this lost traction of the lost refined production for the year, have you got a number for it that we can use?
Craig Miller
executiveLook, Allan, with the current spot prices, the impact of EBITDA in 2020 as a consequence of this is between ZAR 5 billion and ZAR 6 billion. So -- but I think that's important just to point out that this is impacting 2020, and this inventory is clearly in our work in progress pipeline. And so as we unwind that work in progress pipeline, those earnings will come through. We anticipate the pipeline to unwind over the next 18 months or so to taking us into 2022 given the disruption now and the ongoing performance of the asset from an M&C perspective.
Allan Seccombe
attendeeOkay. Just so I understand, so the EBITDA impact for 2020 is between ZAR 5 billion and ZAR 6 billion, but this will be unwound over the next 18 months as stockpiles are worked through, right?
Craig Miller
executiveThat's correct. Exactly.
Natascha Viljoen
executiveYes. But it's not -- it's timing rather than a loss.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] We have question from David McKay from Miningmx.
David McKay
attendeeCan you hear me?
Natascha Viljoen
executiveDavid, yes, we can.
David McKay
attendeeOkay. Just wanted to confirm that EBITDA hit, was that a function of this latest event now? You're not referring to all of the events that occurred this year?
Craig Miller
executiveThat's correct, David. It's just related to the revision that we're making now to refine the sales guidance, taking us from between 3.1 million to 3.3 million ounces to 2.5 million PGM ounces.
David McKay
attendeeGot it. Okay. All righty. And then, Craig, just -- this is probably one for you. Just would this event at all change the Board's thoughts? Perhaps maybe you can say regarding the dividend, full year dividend payment.
Craig Miller
executiveSo David, as you know, we do have a capital -- sorry, disciplined capital allocation approach. We will expect the dividend back as we always do at each reporting period. And so we'll start working on that towards the end of the year and in preparation for our results releases in February. I think it's just worth pointing out just from a liquidity perspective, we have about ZAR 28 billion of cash available at the end of October and ZAR 25.5 billion of committed facilities. So from a liquidity perspective, we're in a good shape.
Operator
operatorThe next question comes from Felix Njini of Bloomberg News.
Felix Njini
attendeeJust to clarify, what's the platinum-palladium split on the revised guidance? And if you don't mind just reminding us again, when is Phase A expected to come back onstream? You said later this year. Do you have an exact date?
Natascha Viljoen
executiveFelix, so just -- as mentioned earlier, we've pulled forward basically by close to 4 months from next year, while even a little bit more. And we are in the end the last bit of construction, and we'll start commissioning. So happy to commit that it will be before the end of this year.
Craig Miller
executiveAnd Felix, then to your other question and the anticipated platinum production is about 1.1 million ounces, refined production is about 1.1 million ounces. And palladium production is about 0.8 million ounces.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] We have a follow-up question from Allan Seccombe of Business Day.
Allan Seccombe
attendeeSorry, before I get to my question, Craig, sorry, I missed those numbers that you told Felix. What are the reductions in platinum, palladium and rhodium, please?
Craig Miller
executiveThey're not the reductions. They're revised. So in determining the revised 2.5 million PGM ounces of refined production for the year, that will comprise of about 1.1 million platinum ounces and about 800,000 palladium ounces.
Allan Seccombe
attendeeAnd do you have a rhodium number on that?
Craig Miller
executiveNo.
Allan Seccombe
attendeeOkay. The -- sorry, and I haven't had time to go through this properly. But so since March, the revised downward forecast of refined metal, how does this compare to what you guys were saying in March? I just need to understand, is this the entire disruption to the year, including the March force majeure and so on?
Craig Miller
executiveNo, no, no. So just recall, so when we came -- so in March, when we -- our original guidance was between 4.3 million and 4.7 million PGM ounces for the year. And then clearly, then we had the ACP incident, and we revised the revised production -- we revised the refined production guidance down by about 900,000 PGM ounces. I mean, clearly today, it's taking that back down by a further sort of circa -- sort of 600,000, 700,000 ounces to get to your 2.5 million ounces. So the cumulative impact is between sort of 1.5 million and 1.6 million ounces as a consequence of the ACP incident. The delta that of that between the 4.2 to -- sorry, 4.3 million to 4.7 million and the 2.5 million is basically the impact of COVID where we've had lower throughput of M&C, which we recalled back in April.
Allan Seccombe
attendeeTrue enough. And I'm not sure if you guys can answer this. But what is the impact on the overall PGM market with this much metal coming out of it?
Natascha Viljoen
executiveI think I don't know if it's a tricky one to try and guide between the impact of COVID, the uncertainty in Europe and U.S. elections. So if I had a crystal ball, I would venture a view on that.
Allan Seccombe
attendeeAnd you don't have one in your hand, right?
Natascha Viljoen
executiveMy goodness. If I had one, I would have seen that today.
Allan Seccombe
attendeeAnd Natascha, is there a plan B for ACP A? When it comes into production next year -- at the end of this year, by the end of this year, what happens if there's problems with that as well? Or are you completely confident that the rebuild is of such a quality that you're not going to have to disrupt refined production again?
Natascha Viljoen
executiveYes. Allan, we are very measured in our approach on B. So what we're going to do with B, we're not going to demolish it as a whole. Our more fragile areas are in the cooling area of the furnace, whilst the half is more -- has got a higher level of integrity. So we're going to start our rebuild in the areas where we've got the biggest risk in the cooling zone in the freeboard and off-site areas. We'll leave the hot intact. When we've done that, we will then convert -- to conversion and demolish the half and rebuild the half. So in that phased approach, mitigating the risk that we won't take it off all at once. We have quite a bit of focus on A to make sure that we protect the integrity of A. That's also why we're working towards the end of the year to get it up and running. We've built in a number of the systems and the learnings that we've had from B so far into A, and we'll continue to rebuild on the integrity of that furnace. I think probably also important just to know, broader from a systemic point of view, reviewed the broader structures and asset integrity systems to continue to build our asset integrity confidence across the business.
Operator
operatorNext question comes from [ Sebenzile Khumalo ] of Media24.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeThis is probably just a weird question. So with both asset A and B being out, where is the processing taking place? Since Natascha mentioned that the company has not secured a force majeure, I was wondering where is the processing taking place right now.
Natascha Viljoen
executiveOkay. All right. Thank you, [ Sebenzile ]. So [ Sebenzile ] we -- so our plant A has stopped. We obviously -- up to the point that we stopped ACP B now, we have had nickel that was going through the pipeline. So we'll continue to process that and empty the pipeline. And then we will fill the pipeline the moment A is up and running. So no other processing will be taking place. At the moment, the pipeline is empty. But we're also processing whatever metal is in the pipeline. Sorry, perhaps I can just add. So [ Sebenzile ], I don't know if it would be helpful. If we consider the value chain, we were aware that ACP is the bottleneck where we bring all of the metal together in our value chain for the first time. From there on, it goes to base metal refinery and precious metal refinery. And that pipeline, we've continued. Obviously, the metal was flowing through from ACP into the base metal and precious metal refinery. And that's the portion that will continue until all of that metal is processed.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] We have a follow-up question from Allan Seccombe of Business Day.
Allan Seccombe
attendeeCraig, the cumulative reduction in refined production for the year, is it fair to say that that's going to be released over that 18-month period that you mentioned earlier?
Craig Miller
executiveYes, Allan, that's the expectation that it will be rebuild after call it, say, 1.2 million PGM ounces. We will release over the next 18 months or into -- so around about between 2022.
Allan Seccombe
attendeeInto mid-'22. Okay.
Operator
operatorThat was the final question. Do you have any closing comments?
Natascha Viljoen
executiveThank you so much. Sure, I have. Again, just from our side, thank you for making yourself available at such a short notice. Again, just one thing to re-emphasize that I think it's really important for us to have run this asset safely. We've definitely had a very competent team who's also fairly new with us, who looked after this and made sure that we could mitigate through the concerns on integrity in the furnace and keep it up and running for as long as they do. But we did get to a point that I just cannot guarantee that we're going to run it safely. The impact of getting it wrong doesn't only have safety implication, but could also impact further infrastructure around the furnace and have a further impact that I don't think we need to manage. It's one of those times that a short-term decision could have a long-term impact. So very confident that this is the right decision. Also very pleased that we've been able to pull back ACP A very significantly. And the focus now with the team and with operational and the project team is to get ACP A up and running, get it stable and with enough -- with -- well, stable and with a high level of integrity so that we can run through this work in process that we pulled up over the last year. Thank you.
Operator
operatorThank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's conference. Thank you for joining us. You may now disconnect your lines.
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