VAT Group AG (VACN) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
October 15, 2026
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, welcome to the VAT Q3 Trading Update Call. I am Valentina, the Chorus Call operator. [Operator Instructions] The conference is being recorded. The presentation will be followed by a Q&A session. You can register for questions on telephone. For operators, the conference must not be recorded for publication or broadcast. At this time, it's my pleasure to hand over to Fabian Kota, CFO. Please go ahead.
Fabian Chiozza
executiveLadies and gentlemen, good morning, and welcome to VAT's Q3 2026 Trading Update Conference Call. On the line with me this morning are Michel Gerber, Chris Wigle from our IR team. Our CEO, or cater is attending SEMICON West in San Francisco. And as it's in the middle of the night for him, he's having a good night sleep to be well rested to continue what can only be described as an ultra high intensity week triggered a semiconductor ramp that undergoes an unprecedented growth phase. After my introductory remarks, we will start the usual Q&A session. . The feedback we are receiving from our team present at Semicon West is always the same. Demand remains tremendous, and as an industry, we see records being shattered. Let me start with the broader semiconductor market backdrop. The industry continues to benefit from powerful long-term growth drivers and the USD 1 trillion revenue milestone is now expected to be reached 3 to 4 years earlier than originally anticipated. While much of the current attention is focused on the AI data center build-out and the significant infrastructure investments that come with it, we believe it is important to distinguish between the catalyst and the underlying driver. AI is clearly accelerating demand, but the more fundamental trend is the continued advancement of semiconductor technology itself. The industry is moving to increasingly sophisticated manufacturing architectures, including gate-all-around transistors and sub 2-nanometer process technologies. In fact, since recently, we saw the introduction of consumer devices incorporating 2-nanometer chips demonstrating that Moore's Law remains very much alive and continues to drive higher levels of semiconductor performance and manufacturing complexity. To support these technological transitions, investments are accelerated across the ecosystem. Existing facts are being expanded and new facilities are being brought online, particularly in advanced toci and DRAM. In many cases, projects originally planned for the latter part of the decade are now moving forward on more aggressive time lines. It is also worth remembering that previous semiconductor growth cycles were largely driven by consumer electronics, especially smartphones. Those markets remain healthy and continue to innovate. However, today, the strongest source of incremental demand is the rapid build-out of AI infrastructure by the longer-term growth opportunity remains anchored in the increasing complexity, performance requirements and semiconductor content across a broad range of applications. For VAT, this reinforces our conviction that the current market momentum is supported not only by an AI investment cycle, but by durable technological trends that continue to drive advanced semiconductor manufacturing forward. Let's talk about the records we achieved in the third quarter. Order volumes tripled in Q3 compared to a year ago, reaching record levels as new production capacity for leading-edge semiconductors remains highly sold after and continues to drive significant demand for VAT products. Following Q2 of 2026, this marks another record for VAT and reflects the strength of this current cycle and is substantially amount of our own expectations when we indicated the flat order pattern for Q3 during our half year results call. Let me talk about the nature of the orders. They are predominantly from our core semiconductor customers, driven by the continued supply-demand imbalance for advanced semiconductors. This imbalance is expected to last well into 2027. In the past weeks, we have received 1 question repeatedly. Are you seeing double ordering or inflated orders? Our answer is clear. We are not seeing double bookings, but orders that are driven by real capacity demand. One note worth the indicator of the continued strength in demand is that order lead times have further lengthened during the year and currently extend to approximately 9 months or more. While at the beginning of the year, this was as little as 3 months. This situation provides us with better visibility of the customers' needs as well as helping us plan manufacturing capacities and supplier demand. We mentioned at the half year call that the challenge this year will be to continue the ramp of our manufacturing capacity at the required speed. Our factory outlook confirms that we have been able to deliver another quarter with a sequential 30% growth, and we are on track to achieve a quarterly output run rate of around CHF 450 million by end of 2026. We achieved Q3 sales of CHF 376 million, up 29% sequentially and up 46% year-on-year. The book-to-bill ratio increased to around 1.9x, and our order backlog sits at CHF 980 million. Comparing this to our order book last year, this represents an increase of 280% and is testament to the unprecedented and unexpected steepness of the increase in demand. Turning to our manufacturing footprint. We continue to systematically expand capacity to support future growth. Ramp investments initiated at the beginning of 2026 continued into Q3. VAT added an additional 450 FTEs in Q3 globally and aligns the supplier base for continued growth into 2027. In Switzerland, we are further optimizing our factory layout and workflows. Assembly utilization has now increased to more than 75%, enabling us to absorb additional demand while continuing to improve operational efficiency. In Malaysia, utilization has reached over 90%, and we will ramp our production further by bringing Factory IB online during the first quarter of 2027. This marks the next important step in our capacity expansion road map and moves us closer to our planned manufacturing capacity of up to EUR 1.2 billion at the site. In Romania, we are advancing the site from a semi-finished goods operation to a fully integrated manufacturing location. Going forward, finished products will be shipped directly from Argos to customers worldwide, increasing the site's contribution to total factory output by approximately CHF 200 million to CHF 300 million. We continued to invest in our workforce as well. Since our half year update, we have added approximately 450 employees bringing our global workforce to around 4,500 FTEs across all locations. As a result, we continue ramping towards our global footprint capacity of approximately CHF 2.5 billion and have identified additional levers that allow us to expand beyond this. We believe this manufacturing footprint positions VAT well to support the anticipated growth in semiconductor demand over the coming years. At the same time, given the industry's growth trajectory, we will make decisions regarding the next phase of capacity expansion in due course. We expect to provide an update on our longer-term manufacturing road map during 2027. Most of this growth is visible in the semiconductors unit. Our Q3 orders were up 37% sequentially and 270% year-on-year. Sales increased by 39% and 70%, respectively, reflecting the capacity ramp activities. Looking at our other 2 business units, in Advanced Industrial growth was seen in orders for vaults used in scientific instruments and analytical products as well as systems with exposure to semiconductors by end markets such as coatings and industrials have seen a flat year-on-year order development. Orders in Global Service increased by 52% sequentially and by 88% year-on-year as demand surge for consumables amid overall high utilization rates. Repairs and retrofits saw a strong increase as well in line with the sector's growth rates. Sales, however, increased by only 2% sequentially and by 4% year-on-year. Many fab customers are maximizing output of new chips, limiting tool downtime from maintenance work or upgrades. Here, the order window has widened as well. This brings us to the outlook, which remains very positive and exciting. We second our customers' public statements of unprecedented demand in their reading, they claim visibility across the sector that now spans over the next 8 quarters. We believe that the market remains in a strong structural growth phase as about 150 fabs, either under construction or planned over the course of the next 3 years to address the persisting supply and demand imbalance. Assuming each fab will require on average more than USD 10 billion of WFE industry is well on track to seeing WFE growing to over USD 200 billion per year in the years to come. WFE estimates have been ticking higher throughout the year compared to our Capital Markets Day in May 2025. WFE estimates for 2026 have increased by 35% and for 2027 by over 66%. For this year, markets believe that WFE could reach up to USD 155 billion and might cross EUR 200 billion in 2027. Based on the production expansion activity witnessed in Q3, we remain on track to reaching our quarterly factory output run rate of CHF 450 million by year-end. As a result, we expect 2026 to be another record year for orders, sales and free cash flow with higher EBITDA, EBITDA margin and net income compared with 2025. For the last quarter of '26, we expect sales in the range of CHF 420 million to CHF 450 million. Looking further ahead for '27, we are preparing for a sales volume that is significantly above previously communicated guidance of CHF 1.5 billion to CHF 1.7 billion. This concludes my prepared remarks, and we now turn to the Q&A session. Moderator, please open the line for the first question.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Yang Mean from Goldman Sachs.
Unknown Analyst
analystMy first question is on the capacity ramp-up in 2027. So what is your current status of your Malaysia 1 factory. And if I understand correctly, you have identified additional levers to allow you beyond the current global capacity of 2.5 billion does this meaning that you would be launching a new CapEx to be a third hub? And my second question is on the impacts of your further hiring and inventory preparation that you've previously mentioned? And how should we think about the margins impact for the full year?
Fabian Chiozza
executiveThank you for your question. Maybe I answer the status of the capacity build-out of Malaysia first. So Malaysia 1A is running at above 90% utilization. So clearly, at a high level. But overall, Malaysia capacity includes 1A and 1B and amounts to more than EUR 1.2 billion. So globally, our current footprint provides for around EUR 2.4 million to EUR 2.7 billion of capacity. This means that our capacity remains sufficient for the strong demand in the years ahead. What has changed is the speed and magnitude of the market development. We originally thought this capacity would take us into 2030 with today's demand momentum we need to take the next capacity decision earlier than initially anticipated. Then on the margins, look, we are currently adding significant resources ahead of the growth opportunity because execution and delivery are the immediate priorities. However, the productivity of these new employees will progressively increase as the ramp matures. At the same time, we continue to run efficiency programs to support our margin performance question.
Operator
operatorThe next question comes from Desert from UBS.
Joern Iffert
analystWould be also to, please. And the first 1 is on the order trends to come. How do you think about the order book in the next 1 or 2 quarters? And to also better read the extended window of ordering timing from customers. What do you think the order intake of around EUR 700 million reflects on hemiacequipment CapEx? Would you feel comfortable with around EUR 270 million, EUR 280 billion just is a reflection of this. And the second question, if I may, on the capacity ramp, how should we think about the quarterly progress going into Q1 and Q2 2027 as current order run rates would clearly show revenue run rate of more than EUR 500 million per quarter. .
Fabian Chiozza
executiveYes. Look, on the orders, I think we should factor in this effect that we have observed now in Q3 on extended order windows. And normalizing for that effect. I would expect that our Q4 orders will land somewhere between EUR 500 million to EUR 600 million. Going forward, this plateau seems to repeat as per current indications of our customer build plans. And as I have said in my prepared remarks, -- we have very good visibility for the next 6 to 8 quarters ahead. With regards to the capacity, as I mentioned before, we are on track with our internal targets to add about 30% quarter-over-quarter. Overall, when I just look at Malaysia, there, we are clearly ahead of this as Malaysia plays a very pivotal role in this ramp and has also stood up to our very high internal ambitions. In Switzerland, obviously, the ramp is a little bit less accentuated, but nevertheless, meeting the targeted levels. So with about CHF 450 million exit run rate for Q4, I do expect that we are able ramp further. We will definitely have the usual seasonal effect in Q1 around Chinese New Year. But overall, I would expect that the growth in factory output is continuing. However, most likely not at the 30% quarter-over-quarter, which we have now seen at the beginning of the ramp. With regards to your last question on WFE, our internal projections, as mentioned are pointing at about EUR 200 billion for next year. And then I would sit somewhere around EUR 250 million to EUR 60 billion for 2028 at the moment, which is a volume assumption, which we currently use in our planning.
Operator
operatorThe next question comes from Oliver Huang from Bank of America.
Oliver Wong
analystMy first question is on pricing, whether -- I think you mentioned something about pricing increasing in your press release, but I assume that's related to your customers raising prices. So I was just wondering on your end, whether there are any pricing effects to be here.
Fabian Chiozza
executiveHere, just to repeat what I have been telling also in recent investor meetings that our pricing is value-based which means we don't automatically increase pricing because our customers do so. Our pricing reflects technological value we provide, particularly through technology advanced and new product introductions. At the same time, certain input cost inflation, such as transportation and raw materials will be passed through. And here, we have also seen this over the past couple of years that we adjusted catalog prices into Q4 to be then effective as of January of the following year. .
Oliver Wong
analystAnd my follow-up would be whether you could share a bit more color on the composition of domestic China demand and your orders and revenues?
Fabian Chiozza
executiveYes, absolutely. So China continues to develop in line with our expectation. We have seen orders just ticking a little bit above the around about 30% sales share of China, overall, markets are developing very, very favorably, and our strategy remains to work closely with the OEMs, codeveloped technologies and win the relevant specifications.
Operator
operatorThe next question comes from Timo Teri from Barclays.
Timothy Lee
analystMy first question is about the customer behavior. So I think you mentioned there's no double booking or inflator orders in your commentary. But do you see if your customers are placing all the space on their orders secured or they are placing orders to us based on their expected coming orders from the chip makers?
Fabian Chiozza
executiveYes. Thanks for your question. I would assume that with this increased visibility overall, customers are also placing orders now as they see demand for their tools building. Another evidence for this would be that we're still receiving quite some reconfigurations, which would point at specific changes or, let's say, reprioritization in their demand. So overall, I would agree to your observation. .
Timothy Lee
analystUnderstood, very helpful. And then my next question is about the service business. I think we obviously see a very strong ramp-up in terms of all in the quarter. As you mentioned, it's profit due to the higher utilization of the customers. How should we think about the growth momentum from as long as the treatment is probably they can continue the run rate. But on the other hand, we probably also have like a much a stronger increase in the installed base next year. Is it fair to assume the service growth will continue to be take up further in '27 onwards.
Fabian Chiozza
executiveYes, I can definitely confirm this assumption. Our service business will not only benefit from an ever-growing installed base, but also continuously strong demand for upgrade retrofits plus, obviously, the consumables business, which serves the high utilization rates in the fabs. So here, nothing has changed. You saw that the orders increased by 52% sequentially and I would see this pattern observed in Q3, really idiosyncratic and not as a, say, concern over the midterm growth trajectory for our service business. .
Operator
operatorThe next question comes from Martin Jungla from BNP Paribas.
Martin Jungfleisch
analystA quick follow-up on the order trends from an earlier question. You would have -- you mentioned that you would expect a book-to-bill above 1 in the fourth quarter as well, right? So in your comments, you mentioned drivers for the strong orders were the anticipated price hikes and also concerns about the availability like what factor would you say is the larger driver here? And would you say that these drivers would also be the main factor for the Q4 order intake in were there any larger price increases announced for certain cost pass-throughs in the Q3 or maybe for Q4 that has driven customers to Russian orders early in the third quarter .
Fabian Chiozza
executiveIt's using a little bit the crystal ball here. But what I can assure you is that historically, when we communicated price increases. There was some uptick in order momentum, but certainly nothing that would now materially change the picture. So the the key growth driver remains the fundamental demand for our products. And there might be some pricing-related orders, but I really wouldn't see that as a key factor here. .
Martin Jungfleisch
analystOkay. Interesting. But the cost -- the price increases that were announced in push through in Q3? Or is this mainly a key thing as usual?
Fabian Chiozza
executiveNo. I mean again, we constantly adjust prices for our custom valves or whenever we introduce new products. On the other hand, you have some catalog parts, mostly in advanced industrials, but also some service products where we do adjust pricing towards the year-end, and this is a communication that is happening usually in autumn and then implemented by the beginning of the year. .
Martin Jungfleisch
analystOkay. No, that makes sense. And then just on the ramp also a quick follow-up. You're guiding for EUR 435 million, roughly midpoint for the fourth quarter higher Q-on-Q. You mentioned the seasonal impact of Chinese Nia in the first quarter. Would you still see revenues up Q-on-Q in Q1, including this effect?
Fabian Chiozza
executiveYes, absolutely. So I would see revenues further growing into -- not just into Q1, but obviously, also then progressively throughout 2027. And the key distinction here is between sales and factory output. So we increased sales by around 30% in Q3, now continue to ramp production towards this EUR 450 million output run rate. You need to consider for Q4 that sales are affected by fewer production and shipping days around the holidays and also by some deliberate rebuilding of consignment inventory ahead of 2027. And with that, I'm also providing you now the confirmation that we expect a strong Q1 despite the events or seasonal events like a Chinese New Year. So we're now really cranking up the system, replenishing these warehouses increasing goods in transit that we can then also harness this through Q1 2027.
Operator
operatorThe next question comes from Backa from Jefferies.
Unknown Analyst
analystI just had a question on your capacity -- potential capacity increases you might need to do if you were needing to increase capacity, how long would this take to ramp? And if we were to assume that you might need this incremental capacity at some point in 2028, when is the latest you can make this decision on the additional capacity.
Fabian Chiozza
executiveYes. As you're right, Lisa, the current discussion is not about the near-term capacity constraint with about staying ahead of our customers' requirements. And as such, we are currently assessing further capacity expansions. This is not within the existing footprint. So within the existing brick-and-mortar where we have capacity of around EUR 2.4 billion to EUR 2.7 billion. We're already thinking beyond that, which then would also include some additional buildings, et cetera. The lead time for such additions is when you do it outside of Switzerland is somewhere around 12 months plus qualification, you end up somewhere up to 18 months, which suggests that these discussions are currently running within VAT. And as mentioned, we will provide an update on this during the course of 2027.
Operator
operatorThe next question comes from Nabil Aziz from Rosedene burn.
Timm Schulze-Melander
analystJust had a follow-up on pricing and margins. So would there be any meaningful impact to gross margins heading into 2027 and beyond? And could you talk about some of the puts and takes on gross margins heading through 2027. And any factors that might cause this to differ meaningfully from the current kind of 64%, 65% range?
Fabian Chiozza
executiveWell, thanks for the question. Look, when you reflect on the gross profit margin trajectory, you clearly see that we have been able to gradually increase this to now around 65%, 66% levels amidst a series of negative effects that were burdening this development. So we continue to drive our continuous improvement programs, operational excellence relentlessly. At the same time, the further ramp of production outside of Switzerland will also bring some positive contribution to the margin. And with the price increases, which we drive as usually, to merely compensate negative effects such as material, labor inflation, huge spikes in transportation costs, energy costs. I would assume that our gross profit margin will hover somewhere around 66% going forward.
Timm Schulze-Melander
analystAwesome. And then I just had a quick follow-up on FX. What's your assumption for FX in the quarter and you're embedded in your guidance for revenues and kind of what's your expectation through.
Fabian Chiozza
executiveYes. Look, the guidance is always based on the year-to-date average rates, which we use also for the revenue recognition, and that is currently EUR 0.8 million over Swiss franc. This is what's embedded in the guidance. Going forward, yes, a tough one. I think we were equally surprised about the current strength of the U.S. dollar versus the Swiss franc. I would, however, assume that the long-term trajectory of strong Swiss franc remains very, very valid. So I would say it's a matter of time up until this search will end and the Swiss franc will again become a little bit stronger.
Operator
operatorThe next question comes from Craig Abbott from Capterra.
Craig Abbott
analystYes. Apologies. Yes. My questions were also going to be around the gross margin, and you just a moment ago, talked us through very clearly how you see that progressing. So my question has been answered. .
Fabian Chiozza
executiveOkay. Thanks, Craig. Thank you. So it seems we are coming to the last question already. So operator, I think the last question is for Rob, right? .
Operator
operatorYes. The last question comes from Robert Sanders, Deutsche Bank. .
Robert Sanders
analystCould you just contrast your order strength between Chinese OEMs and non-Chinese OEMs? And could you also talk about the impact of IFRS 18 as you look to next year, what does that mean for your gross margin percentage? Obviously, today, it doesn't include employee costs, depreciation, et cetera, like that? .
Fabian Chiozza
executiveYes. Thanks for your question. I sort of or hinted already at the Chinese order share, which was slightly above the 30% revenue share for Q3. Slightly above means low single-digit percentage. On IFRS 18, in your question, you're mixing 2 subjects. The first 1 is the, let's say, the presentation of the financial statements. And the other 1 is how we account for it. So we are currently disclosing our financials using the so-called P&L by nature. For now, we would continue to do this also under IFRS 18. However, IFRS 18 provides a couple of new management performance measures. We, however, envisage to continue to provide you with the very well-introduced understood metrics. However, this would ask for some further disclosures, which we will make. And as such, you should not expect any material changes of this accounting change.
Robert Sanders
analystSo no change to the presentation of gross margin percentage Yes. Thank you. .
Operator
operatorWe now have a question from Leases from AWP Finance Nate.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. I know it's a bit late. Just given the current market reaction to all the all the chip stocks and so on, like you maybe have a comment on the market fear given all the AI investments and so on?
Fabian Chiozza
executiveYes, thanks for your question. We obviously monitor these developments closely, but our demand outlook is not based on individual AI projects or even external headlines as we see them surface from 1 day to another. So what ultimately matters for us is what our semiconductor equipment customers are planning and also our own planning for '27 and '28 is increasingly based on those direct customer conversations and these continue to indicate strong growth. So bottom line is we see it through this noise. We have confirmation from customers, but also from end users that about 150 fabs are still going to be built. At the same time, I would expect that also further clarity surfaces on the business models themselves on all these AI applications and models.
Operator
operatorOkay. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Fabian Chiozza for any closing remarks.
Fabian Chiozza
executiveYes. So thank you very much for your continued interest in VAT. As we have said, earlier on the ramp is here. I think we are in the middle of the storm here as we continue to ramp our capacities and serve the customers with these unprecedented demand. The next touch point we have with each other will be March 2, 2027 with the full year results release, and then we're also attending some IR conferences still in Q4, early Q1 and we're looking forward to further engagement with all of you. And for now, I wish you a good day, and speak to you soon.
Operator
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