Vector Limited (VCT) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

February 24, 2020

New Zealand Exchange NZ Utilities Multi-Utilities earnings 34 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good morning, everybody. Welcome to Vector Limited's conference call and webcast to discuss the company's financial and operational results for the half year ended 31 December 2019. [Operator Instructions] I must advise you that this conference call is being recorded. I'd now like to hand you over to Vector's Chair, Dame Alison Paterson, who will take you through the call. Please go ahead, Alison.

Alison Paterson

executive
#2

Good morning, everyone. Again, welcome to Vector's results briefing for the half year ended 31st of December. As you know, I'm Alison Paterson. I am Vector's Chair. Joining me on the call today is Group Chief Executive, Simon MacKenzie; and Chief Financial Officer, Jason Hollingworth. A reminder that as in recent briefings, we are not intending to go through a detailed page-by-page recital of the investor material. Rather, we want to provide insights into what we see as the key aspects of the results and allow more time for Q&A with you all. I know many of you have a keen interest in dividend, so I will begin today's presentation with a summary of Vector's half year dividend payment and changes to Vector's dividend policy. I will then hand over to Simon to provide an overview of the key aspects of the half year results. Jason will comment a little more on the numbers before Simon will close with a short statement on Vector's outlook. We will then be happy to take your questions. So as to dividends. When the Vector Board approved the current dividend policy in 2017, we agreed that we would review the policy once again once we knew the outcome of the DPP3 regulatory reset. The reset is crucial for Vector because it determines the maximum allowable revenue for our electricity business as well as limits for network quality standards. We received final confirmation of our regulatory resets in November last year. The DPP3 period will take effect from the 1st of April 2020 and run through to 31st of March 2025. Considering the Commerce Commission's final decision, the Board has decided to update the dividend policy. The Board has resolved to move from a policy of progressively increasing dividends by $0.0025 per annum to a policy of maintaining the current dividend of $0.165 per annum. Please note, we expect to increase dividends in the future based on projection -- projected growth in Vector's businesses. And the dividend policy statement, which we'd upped onto the network this morning, states that, "We believe this approach is more in line with other listed companies." The Board has also decided to move away from a policy of fully imputing dividends to attaching imputation credits at a rate of 10.5%. Therefore, shareholders will receive a partially imputed dividend payment of $0.0825 per share on the 8th of April 2020. I'd like to add that in considering the payment of any dividend under this updated policy, the Board will ensure that the company will maintain its current BBB credit rating with Standard & Poor's or the equivalent; secondly, have the financial capacity to meet its medium-term investment and operating requirements; and finally, comply with all funding covenants and the solvency test in the Companies Act. I will now hand you over to Simon to provide more insights into the year.

Simon MacKenzie

executive
#3

Thanks, Alison. I'd like to start by touching on some of the key -- of the operational highlights for the half year. Auckland's growing population has once again contributed to strong electricity and gas connection growth. We made 8,488 new electricity and gas connections, up 24.3% on the prior comparative period. To keep pace with Auckland's growth and enhanced network integrity, we invested $156 million in our networks during the period. This works out to $6 million invested every week, which is a 25% higher than the same period last year. This effort helped us to achieve a 13.7% improvement in SAIDI minutes as well. Overall, electricity volumes were flat at 4,396 gigawatt hours, with higher residential volumes offset by lower business volumes. Metering growth continued in both New Zealand and Australia during the half year period, with 61,000 additional meters deployed in Australia and 23,000 in New Zealand. We now have 1.64 million advanced meters in our fleet, with 222,000 of these in Australia. During the period, we invested $65 million in capital expenditure to continue growing our Metering business. This was an 8.9% increase compared with the equivalent prior period, with most of the increase reflecting the acceleration of deployment of new advanced meters in Australia. The growth and innovation opportunities for metering in both New Zealand and Australia continue to be significant. And with continued investment, Vector Metering is on track to deliver another solid performance in FY '20. In early December, a key milestone for our Gas Trading business was reached with plans confirmed to transfer the Kapuni gas treatment plant and associated assets to Todd Energy. The deal resets the relationship between Todd and Vector and creates strong alignment in terms of our shared interest in seeing the Kapuni field developed further. The sale, which is due to be completed in the coming months, will not have a material impact on adjusted EBITDA for the Gas Trading business in FY '20. Our Gas Trading business' financial performance delivered a good result given the very challenging market conditions. This included a 1.7% lift in LPG bottle swaps. And now I will hand over to Jason to provide an overview of Vector's financial performance.

Jason Hollingworth

executive
#4

Thanks, Simon. For anyone that's got the slides, I'm on Slide 4, which is an overview of Vector's financial performance. Our revenues continue to benefit from strong connection growth across our networks and the further expansion of the Metering business in New Zealand and Australia. However, these gains were partially offset by increased maintenance to improve electricity network reliability aligned to the DPP2 period. The group delivered a steady earnings performance for the 2020 half year with adjusted EBITDA of 265 -- $264.5 million, which was in line with last year's comparative result. We've invested capital expenditure to improve asset reliability, support growth in Auckland as well as investment to support increasing deployment of advanced meters. Reflecting these priorities, total capital expenditure in the first 6 months has been $240 million, an increase of $38.9 million or 19.3% up on the prior period. Group net profit after tax was $80.5 million, down $2.8 million on the prior year's result. This result was largely driven by higher depreciation, amortization and increased maintenance costs, partly offset by higher capital contributions and lower interest costs. Operating cash flow was $256 million, up 16% on the prior year's results. The stronger cash flow was driven by several factors, including lower interest costs, higher capital contribution receipts, lower loss rental rebate payments in the period compared to the prior year and working capital movements. On to Slide 5, looking at the segment earnings. You'll note that we've made some changes to the segment structure, with Metering now separated out into its own segment. The remainder of what was traditionally been known as our Technology segment is now included as Other. Adjusted EBITDA for electricity and gas distribution in the 6 months to 31 December 2019 was down $9.5 million to $189.2 million, a 4.8% decrease compared with the prior period. This result was largely driven by lower sales revenue and the phasing of electricity maintenance expenditure focused on improving network reliability and reducing outage minutes. Gas Trading business' financial performance in the 6 months to 31 December saw adjusted EBITDA flat at $20.8 million. As Simon mentioned earlier, we see this as a good result given challenging market conditions. Adjusted EBITDA for the Metering segment was $76.1 million in the 6 months, up $8 million or 11.7% from a year earlier, with most of this increase reflecting the acceleration of deployment of new advanced meters in Australia. Vector PowerSmart's HRV business has continued to focus on improved business operations over the 6-month period, and this is -- and HRV's financial performance has improved. This is expected to continue into the second half. And Vector Fibre has also improved its performance over the period. Looking at Slide 6. During the period, we invested significant capital expenditure to improve asset reliability, support growth in Auckland and increase deployment of advanced meters in Australia and New Zealand. Reflecting these priorities, total capital expenditure in the 6 months has been $240 million, an increase of $38.9 million or 19.3% on the prior period. Capital contributions rose $3.9 million or 9.5% to $45.1 million from $41.2 million a year earlier, reflecting continued connection growth and the significant development taking place across Auckland. And I hand back to Simon to talk about the DPP3 reset.

Simon MacKenzie

executive
#5

Thanks, Jason. So on to the outcome of the DPP3 regulatory reset. As Alison has already mentioned, Vector received a final decision from the Commerce Commission in late November last year. The weighted average cost of capital has been set at 4.57%, which is down from 7.19% is the previous default price period to expected return. This will see a revenue reduction of circa $25 million relative to the year to 31 March 2020. The expected impact in quarter 4 this year is $7 million. The impact on revenue would have been greater had Vector been earning its full allowable revenue in regulatory year '20. However, the Commerce Commission forecast inaccuracies have resulted in Vector earning an actual return of 6% as opposed to the allowable 7.19%. As we have previously outlined during the 2013 to 2019 regulatory years, Vector's under-recovery of actual revenue relative to allowable revenue was approximately $270 million. While we acknowledge that the DPP3 regulatory settings have partially been corrected to remove growth forecast inaccuracies, it is disappointing that exposure to ongoing inflation forecast errors, inaccuracies remain and in what we believe to be an inappropriate risk-free rate input into the weighted average cost of capital when compared to other jurisdictions. Furthermore, the reset has created $189 million funding gap for the DPP3 period. This restricts the capital expenditure available to Vector over the next 5 years and comes at a time when we're experiencing significant growth of Auckland's electricity network. Although this outcome will impede our ability to invest in Auckland to the level we believe is necessary over the next 5 years, we are committed to upgrading and maintaining Auckland's electricity network to the best of our ability. Accordingly, we have adjusted some of our policies to reflect the funding envelope we have been allowed by the Commerce Commission. Lastly, we expect these line charge reductions to be passed through to customers given this regulatory reset. Turning to outlook. We expect Auckland growth to continue, and we are still targeting around 12,000 new electricity connections in FY '20. In Metering, we are targeting 50,000 to 60,000 additional advanced meters in New Zealand and 130,000 to 140,000 in Australia. In terms of guidance, adjusted EBITDA guidance is between 100 -- sorry, $495 million and $505 million for FY '20 and CapEx guidance of circa $500 million. Alison, Jason and I are now happy to take any questions.

Operator

operator
#6

[Operator Instructions] Your first question today comes from the line of Andrew Harvey-Green from Forsyth Barr.

Andrew Harvey-Green

analyst
#7

A couple of questions for me. And first one, just around the dividend and clarifying a couple of things. In terms of, I guess, imputation levels going forward, it looks like that you're no longer intending to prepay tax, which is, I guess, what you've done in the past. Once that prepaid tax balance has gone, in essence, will you be looking to increase imputation levels to whatever tax levels you are paying? And how soon do you expect that to actually take place?

Jason Hollingworth

executive
#8

Look, I think that's a reasonable assumption, Andrew. Yes. But the Board obviously will consider that down the track. I think the policy is all about the Board having opportunity each reporting period to consider its dividend policy, having regard for the performance of the business.

Andrew Harvey-Green

analyst
#9

Okay. So there's nothing formal, I guess, around imputation policy as such.

Jason Hollingworth

executive
#10

Yes, no, nothing formal.

Alison Paterson

executive
#11

The Board accepts that it's inefficient to prepay tax to impute dividends. And we intend to cease doing that.

Andrew Harvey-Green

analyst
#12

Yes. Okay. That's great. Second question is actually just a clarification. When I was sort of calculating the numbers according to the distribution, I guess you're talking about imputation tax credits, I think, of just under $0.01, $0.00967. I was calculating this as an imputation level of 30.2% as opposed to 10.5%. And if it was at 10.5%, it would be around about 0.33 of a percent. You may just want to double-check that and come back in terms of what the expected imputation level is. Just wanted to clarify that.

Jason Hollingworth

executive
#13

Yes. I think I know what you're talking about, Andrew. We spent a bit of time on this yesterday, just looking at how the NZX likes this to be disclosed. So the tax credit is 10.5%. There are some issues around how different people disclose that in terms of percentages of imputation, so happy to take that off-line with you.

Andrew Harvey-Green

analyst
#14

Yes, sure. Okay. And last question for me is whether you have given any further consideration of going to a customized price path, and I guess you've had 3 months to digest the full price path decision.

Simon MacKenzie

executive
#15

Andrew, it's Simon. Look, I guess the reality is that we consider the customized price path. We're having conversations with the Commerce Commission. But as you appreciate, we also have to focus on the challenge in front of us with regards to growth in Auckland, but that is something that we are considering and in dialogue with the Commission.

Operator

operator
#16

Your next question comes from the line of Grant Swanepoel from Craigs.

Grant Swanepoel

analyst
#17

Just first question on the Auckland demand and how that's going. I see demand for ICP is down 1.4%. I think the trend was starting to stabilize. Is this a new trend developing? Or is it just a weather-dependent situation?

Simon MacKenzie

executive
#18

Yes. Grant, I think as we've identified, there's a difference between business and residential. So we're seeing residential will be slightly higher and business will be slightly lower. But overall, I think we've seen a -- over the years, we've seen a gradual decrease in demand or volume. We've seen that slightly flatten. But again, I think you're correct with regards to the impact of weather and temperature. It probably explains some of that variance we're currently seeing at the moment.

Grant Swanepoel

analyst
#19

And then in terms of natural gas, down another 9% in volume terms. Do we have to wait for your new Kapuni deal to come through before we see a stabilization in those volumes?

Simon MacKenzie

executive
#20

I think with regards to the Kapuni deal being down 9%, it's largely to do with -- from a volume perspective of ceasing to supply a large commercial customer. And as I guess what we'll see with the Kapuni deal, then that gives us certainty about volume for liquids and some of the gas, and we'll continue to operate. Obviously, appreciate it's a very challenging market conditions at the moment, but the volume was largely to do with the reduction given the loss of a large commercial customer. Jason might add one thing.

Jason Hollingworth

executive
#21

Yes, just -- we're having a couple of field outages and including in the current period as well. So it is a tough market with these outages and given our trading sort of book. So yes, I think we've said it's challenging and it is. So Kapuni will help, but we still buy gas from some of these other fields, and they have been out over the period.

Grant Swanepoel

analyst
#22

And my final question, just on that other HRV side of things. So don't get me wrong, I'm really pleased that you're splitting out meters. But those little businesses are now going to be lost in corporate. If those do rebound back beyond this $4 million to $5 million per half, will you be disclosing what's going on there relative to corporate costs going forward?

Jason Hollingworth

executive
#23

Yes. We will, Grant. There's accounting rules about when you can treat something as a segment. So until we get to that level, we just have to treat them in that Other bucket. So we can have bucket of Other, we just -- we have to do what we've done. So if it gets to a size, we will break them out again. But I think that will take a few years before you get to that point.

Operator

operator
#24

Your next question comes from the line of Stephen Hudson from Macquarie.

Stephen Hudson

analyst
#25

Just a few for me. I just wondered if you could split out the $189 million of disallowed OpEx and CapEx. I know you've got a slide in there, Simon, but you did reference, I think, $189 million of disallowed OpEx and CapEx. And just how much of that is sort of discretionary versus nondiscretionary? Secondly, I just wondered if there was a -- if you could steer us on what sort of debt cost reductions you're expecting in the coming year, maybe one for Jason. And customer contributions, I just wondered if you could give us some guidance for the FY '20 year. What's embedded in your CapEx -- in your growth CapEx guidance there?

Simon MacKenzie

executive
#26

Okay. Look, I guess slide -- we have got to seek the breakout there with regards to OpEx versus CapEx separation between the -- what we call our asset management plan in '19 versus OpEx allowance, which has come through from the Commission. As you'll see there, you can calculate that. But obviously, the larger share does arise from the CapEx amount. That CapEx amount, obviously, what we focus on is ensuring that we're investing in the existing network to make sure we're maintaining, upgrading and replacing assets that might be end of life; and then to operate under the DPP3, then we look at the remainder CapEx, which is largely related to what you'd say is growth. And hence, that means that we've looked at our capital contribution policies, and we can essentially flex that up and down. I'd also note that, obviously, those are forecasts, and what we see occurring with regards to the growth OpEx -- sorry, the growth CapEx side, in particular, is things like relocations and in large kind of infrastructure projects that are related to some of the other activities around Auckland, whether it's like the central rail loop or other projects. So we have to take that into account. And if they tune up or they don't is also obviously dependent on the activity and the timing of those. Probably best just to pass over to Jason with regards to capital contribution forecasts and the CapEx amount.

Jason Hollingworth

executive
#27

Yes. Well, I guess they are linked to exactly what Simon has talked about in terms of that growth and deliver contributions going forward. So that's an adjusted amount of guidance we've given you there, excluding the contributions side. They will come through depending on what happens in the Auckland market. But we guide excluding this. And there's a third question. Stephen, I'm sorry, I forgot what that was.

Stephen Hudson

analyst
#28

Sorry, just to clarify, Jason, the CapEx number is a -- excludes customer contributions then?

Jason Hollingworth

executive
#29

Net of contributions. Yes.

Stephen Hudson

analyst
#30

Right. Okay. And yes, it was just some feel on what you're expecting in terms of interest cost savings for the coming year -- or sorry, for this year.

Jason Hollingworth

executive
#31

That will continue to flow through. Look, I have to come back to you on exact number, but we're in the market soon, perhaps do a large issue. So we're certainly picking up the benefits of this current interest rate market, and that will flow through as we've got a couple of bonds that mature this year as well. So I can come back to you on exactly what that delta is, but there are some reasonable savings coming in.

Operator

operator
#32

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from the line of Tom Davidson from Aspiring.

Lance Reynolds

analyst
#33

Jason, it's Lance here actually at Aspiring. I just kind of want to go back on the imputation level. Obviously, we've got, I guess, a circa $0.04 gross dividend cut. So it's reasonably material. Could you just give us some comfort? I know it's all [ period end dark ] accounting, but medium term, is it in your vision that the stock returns to full imputation on a 5-, 10-year view, I mean, as a function of tax depreciation, [ prepay and ] roll-off and things just normalize through time? Or was this a structural move down? Any color would be great.

Jason Hollingworth

executive
#34

Look, it depends how much cash tax we end up paying in the business, which, again, you can look at our current results and you can project that forward. We have growth in our Metering business, so it really depends on our sort of medium-term forecast for the business, which we don't give but I think you can work through. But ultimately, it's -- what will drive that is the amount of tax we are required to pay on our earnings each period.

Simon MacKenzie

executive
#35

Also, the other aspect, just to note, just to reiterate, I think there's a high dependency on what happens with the interest rate environment. And it's very clear that with the interest rate environment as we currently see it for the regulated side of our business, that has a material impact on our revenue because the low interest rate goes straight through into weighted average cost of capital and into earnings. So to the point with regards to looking at imputation out further into the future, it will be a function of what's happening with interest rate environment. We've got another reset in 2025. And also, obviously, we see positive growth with Metering. And I think it'd be fair to say that it's not different to a lot of other listed companies around imputation. So we're -- the Board will obviously review the policy as we progress. And also, the other impact that we have is that our cash flows get back-ended, particularly from a cash flow timing perspective because of the way in which the regulatory methodology works. So all in all, we think that, obviously, moving to the 10.5% is the right decision. And obviously, dividend policy will be reviewed. And as Alison noted that we expect to be able to increase dividends as we go forward, basically on the projected earnings of the business.

Alison Paterson

executive
#36

We've said we will not prepay tax, but it goes without saying that to the extent we are paying tax, we will use those payments to impute dividends going forward. We haven't done any modeling yet, but we're looking to what year before we've exhausted our prepaid tax, quite a few years out.

Simon MacKenzie

executive
#37

It's 2025. We've got to actually have another reassessment then.

Alison Paterson

executive
#38

Yes, 2025.

Lance Reynolds

analyst
#39

Okay. But I do concur from a prior analyst who said imputation rate is more like 30% in '19 because my understanding was it's what you -- what credits you're paying as a percentage of what would the credits would have been at full imputation, but it's obviously just a presentation metric. But maybe -- yes, again, I concur to the analyst.

Operator

operator
#40

Your next question comes from the line of Nevill Gluyas from Jarden.

Nevill Gluyas

analyst
#41

Just one question for me. In respect to the DPP2, you said you sort of fell short quite considerably against what you think should have been allowable. What should we think about DPP3 in terms of whether or not you might be squeezed into a shortfall against sort of allowable revenue for that period?

Simon MacKenzie

executive
#42

Yes. Look, I think, obviously, as we mentioned, the Commission has moved from a price path to a revenue path, which means that what we previously were getting hit by was basically the growth assumptions of volume on the network. So that's been removed. But essentially, we still get -- we're still subject to the difference between actual inflation and the forecasts. So for example, if they're still forecasting 1.5%, 2% and actual inflation comes in at 1% or below the index, we also get squeezed.

Alison Paterson

executive
#43

For clarity, the Commission uses the reserve bank inflation forecasts. That's not based on the past history. They are bound to target the midpoint of the range. It's got nothing to do with whether or not current inflation trends are that. And something that was a surprise to an ex-reserve bank staff that we talked to, they hadn't really understood the impact of those forecasts on organizations such as Commission who use them as expected trends.

Nevill Gluyas

analyst
#44

It does sound like quite a material reduction in sort of the risk of shortfall as before. Is there any chance of a sort of small beat against regulated numbers, again, inflation which you've [ managed ] that way?

Jason Hollingworth

executive
#45

If inflation goes up -- so we have our revenues set now. If inflation goes high in New Zealand, then our revenue will follow the inflation path, which could be higher than the Commission had in their model because your Commission's fixed inflation at the reserve bank midpoint effectively over the next 5 years. So I guess we're exposed to that. And if inflation goes high, we'll benefit from that.

Operator

operator
#46

[Operator Instructions] There are no further questions at this time. I would now like to hand the conference back to today's presenters. Please continue.

Simon MacKenzie

executive
#47

Well, thanks very much, everyone. If you have any questions post, obviously, from the analysts, get in contact with Jason and any media for Elissa Downey. We'd like to thank you for joining us. We hope we've presented and given full color on what's going on from a Vector perspective, and we look forward to speaking with you at the end of the year results. And again, just like to just recognize thanks to the staff at Vector for this last 6 months. It's been hard work with a few areas, but we continue to look to how we can deliver outcomes to our shareholders. So thanks very much.

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