Veralto Corporation (VLTO) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
October 30, 2026
What were the key takeaways from Veralto Corporation's October 30, 2026 earnings call?
In the third quarter of 2026, Veralto Corporation (VLTO:US) reported total sales growth of 7.5% year-over-year and an adjusted EPS increase of 19.2%. The company raised its full-year adjusted EPS guidance to a range of $4.49 to $4.52 per share, reflecting a 15% to 16% growth over the prior year. Management highlighted robust demand across segments, particularly in water quality and digital workflow solutions, signaling a strong outlook for the fourth quarter and beyond.
What topics did Veralto Corporation cover?
- Revenue Growth Acceleration: Veralto achieved total sales growth of 7.5% year-over-year, driven by a 5.1% core sales growth. Management stated, "demand for our products and services remains healthy across both segments."
- Adjusted EPS Guidance Raised: The company raised its full-year adjusted EPS guidance to $4.49 to $4.52, representing a 15% to 16% growth over the prior year. This was attributed to strong third-quarter performance and early gains from the cost optimization program.
- Strong Free Cash Flow Generation: Veralto generated robust free cash flow of $304 million in Q3. This strong cash generation supports ongoing capital deployment and strategic acquisitions.
- Healthy Demand in Water Quality: Management noted that 60% of revenue is recurring, with strong demand in both municipal and industrial applications. They expect core sales growth of 5.5% to 6.5% in Q4, driven by ongoing investments in product development.
- Cost Optimization Program Progress: Veralto's cost optimization program is on track to deliver $10 million to $15 million in savings for 2026. Sameer Ralhan stated, "we've had some early successes and a good start out of the gate."
What were Veralto Corporation's October 30, 2026 results?
- Total Sales Growth: 7.5% (+7.5% YoY)
- Free Cash Flow: $304 million
- Core Sales Growth (Q4 Guidance): 5.5% to 6.5%
- Cost Savings from Optimization Program: $10 million to $15 million (for 2026)
- Recurring Revenue Percentage: 60%
Veralto's strong Q3 performance and raised guidance indicate robust operational momentum, particularly in water quality and digital workflow solutions. The company's focus on cost optimization and strategic acquisitions positions it well for future growth. Investors should monitor the integration of recent acquisitions and the impact of macroeconomic factors on demand as potential catalysts or risks.
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorMy name is Erica, and I will be your conference operator this morning. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Veralto Corporation's Third Quarter 2026 Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I will now turn the call over to Ryan Taylor, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Mr. Taylor. You may now begin.
Ryan Taylor
executiveGood morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us on the call. With me today are Jennifer Honeycutt, our President and Chief Executive Officer; and Sameer Ralhan, our Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Today's call is simultaneously being webcast. A replay of the webcast will be available on the Investors section of our website later today under the heading Events and Presentations. A replay of this call will be available until November 9. Yesterday, we issued our third quarter 2026 earnings news release, earnings presentation, prepared remarks and supplemental materials, including information required by the SEC relating to adjusted or non-GAAP financial measures. These materials are available in the Investors section of our website, veralto.com, under the heading Quarterly Earnings. Reconciliations of all non-GAAP measures are also provided in the appendix of the webcast slides. Unless otherwise noted, all references to variances are on a year-over-year basis. During the call, we will make forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws, including statements regarding events or developments that we believe or anticipate will or may occur in the future. These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, including those set forth in our SEC filings. Actual results may differ materially from our forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements speak only as of the date that they are made, and we do not assume any obligation to update any forward-looking statements except as required by law. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Jennifer.
Jennifer Honeycutt
executiveThanks, Ryan. I want to start by thanking our 17,000 associates for delivering an outstanding third quarter. We continue to build on our track record of meeting or exceeding our financial commitments through rigorous execution in support of our customers. In Q3, Total sales grew 7.5% year-over-year. Adjusted EPS increased 19.2%, and we generated robust free cash flow of $304 million. We delivered 5.1% core sales growth led by water quality at 6.4%, with PQI at 3.2%. Both segments accelerated core sales growth sequentially from Q2 to Q3. Broadly speaking, demand for our products and services remains healthy across both segments. Relative to the fourth quarter, we expect core sales growth of 5.5% to 6.5% and approximately 5% growth from acquisitions resulting in total sales growth of approximately 10%. Based on our third quarter performance, fourth quarter outlook and early gains from our cost optimization program we raised our full year adjusted EPS guidance to $4.49 to $4.52 per share, representing 15% to 16% growth over the prior year. Our 2026 guidance includes benefits from our disciplined capital deployment. Year-to-date, we've deployed more than $1.65 billion across 4 strategic bolt-on acquisitions and the repurchase of 2.4% of our outstanding shares. Our most recent acquisition of Clean Water One expands our capabilities in water treatment solutions, and I'm excited to welcome the Clean Water One Associates to Veralto. With our strong balance sheet and robust cash generation, we have ample flexibility to act decisively on attractive new opportunities. This year's performance and disciplined capital deployment reflects the stronger Veralto that we have been architecting since our spin-off in 2023. As we mark our third anniversary as an independent public company, I'm proud of how much we've accomplished and even more excited about our future. Over the course of the first 3 years, we have simplified VES and bolstered our execution, accelerated innovation and strengthened our portfolio through disciplined M&A. These actions have accelerated our core sales growth, driven consistent margin expansion and double-digit adjusted EPS growth. I'm incredibly proud of what our team has accomplished. With a stronger foundation, talented team and proven track record, we are excited about the opportunities ahead and confident in our ability to deliver sustainable long-term value for shareholders. That concludes my prepared remarks. And at this time, we will now take your questions.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] And we'll take our first question from the line of Jeffrey Sprague with Vertical Research.
Jeffrey Sprague
analystThank you. Good morning, everyone. Jennifer, -- just kind of wonder -- you're not inherently a project-related business, but when I look at these kind of improving trends in industrial water, some of the digital workflow stuff, maybe some things going on in the muni side. I was just wondering if you could kind of comment on maybe the level of visibility or sort of confidence level in 2027. So maybe cheating here a little bit and trying to get an early 2027 preview from you.
Jennifer Honeycutt
executiveYes. Thanks for the question, Jeff. I think the way to think about our exposure here is -- we have a balanced portfolio in our water business between Muni sales and industrial sales. In fact, 50% of our sales in water quality are into industrial applications. Insofar as your question around municipal spending, as a reminder, 60% of our revenue sits in recurring revenue given the razor blade business were essential to the customers' operations. But when we do have equipment that gets sold as CapEx, it's part of the normal operational CapEx cycle. And that is to say that these tend to be facility upgrades or optimizations as opposed to infrastructure investments, which are more prone to federal funding fluctuations. So we see strong demand really for our solutions here relative to both the operating side of the business, whether that's our recurring revenue-based model or project-based business simply on the back of the secular drivers that we see, right? Recycle reclaim severe weather events, water scarcity and so on. So we feel pretty good about ongoing demand here, and we'll keep you posted once we get to 2027.
Jeffrey Sprague
analystAnd maybe just 1 on PI. On that side of the equation, is there some visibility on the CapEx side that's coming to view or not at this point?
Jennifer Honeycutt
executiveYes. I mean, by and large, the PQI side of the house is not a CapEx business. these equipment purchases in terms of marking and coding or packaging and color tend to be, again, operational improvements to existing lines Again, for our marketing and coding business, we've got 60% of that business is recurring revenue based and we've got a huge installed base there for continuing to upgrade as there are technology changes relative to substrates, packaging sizes and so on. we see good pull-through in our digital workflow solutions in packaging and color which, as you know, we've continued to invest there by virtue of M&A. So we see steady demand, and we feel confident about the future there.
Sameer Ralhan
executiveYes. And maybe, Jeff, I'll add 1 more thing is as you look at the Packaging color business on the digital workflow solutions business, that's growing nicely. There, we have pretty good visibility, given those are SaaS contracts. So as you know, we sign up the contracts and be recognizing revenue at time. So we have pretty good visibility on that side and then the market coding as Jennifer said, for us, the manned patents have been pretty steady.
Operator
operatorWe'll take our next question from William Grippin with Barclays.
William Grippin
analystGreat. Appreciate the opportunity here. My first question, you're flagging some early progress on cost saves here in the third quarter. I guess on top of that, small benefit here from tariffs. I was wondering if you could help us think about the margin cadence next year within that context. And I guess just maybe more specifically, just given the progress thus far on the cost saves, are you maybe seeing potentially more cost out opportunity than you had initially laid out?
Sameer Ralhan
executiveAs you kind of look at the cost optimization program, at the beginning of the year, we had said that roughly half the savings by 2027 and then full run rate in 2 -- that plan is still 1 to follow. Look, we've had some early successes and a good start out of the gate. So we're going to see $10 million to $15 million worth of savings in 2026, but for r 2027 at this point, just model it the way we kind of guided earlier, roughly half the savings. Will be more specific as part of the 2027 guide on where we stand. Just keep in mind, right, that the savings are net of investments as well. So there's always a little bit of a variation on the timing which we want to make sure that we properly dial in into the 2017 guide. So that's how you should think about the cost optimization program at this point on track with a nice early start in 2026 for us.
William Grippin
analystGreat. And my follow-up here. In the release last night, you noted strong demand for municipals in Hawk. I was wondering if you could provide a bit more color on drivers there, whether it be replacement cycle, new product introductions within that business or new customer wins? And maybe how are you thinking about demand trends exiting the year?
Jennifer Honeycutt
executiveYes. I mean I would say here on the muni side of water quality, we're really kind of firing on all cylinders here, and this is on the back of a 3-year build relative to commercial architecture, VES discipline new product development. And as a reminder here, we're really on the OpEx side of our customers' operations as opposed to CapEx. It's nondiscretionary spend, right? This is regulated testing. So customers are -- use our equipment to make sure that they stay within compliance, and I would say here throughout the last year or so, our new product development flywheel has particularly taken hold, and we see that across our analytics business as well as our water treatment businesses. So for municipalities, Hach's got a brand-new flagship spectratometer, got new ammonia and phosphate analyzers. And so we continue to see sort of great execution that's been bolstered by this increasing cadence of new product development launches. So we feel good about our position here, and we would expect that to continue.
Operator
operatorWe'll take our next question from Mike Halloran with Baird.
Michael Halloran
analystSo maybe just some thoughts on underlying trajectory in the short term here. You certainly heard the answer to Jeff's question. Just curious, it sounds like most of the pieces of your portfolio are tracking sequentially the right way. Anything that you're seeing that deviated from seasonality as you work through the quarter. But I guess the question, is there any areas of your portfolio that you're not seeing that positive trajectory? Or maybe put differently, are there any very obvious flex points that you're thinking about in the portfolio as we position for 4Q next year?
Jennifer Honeycutt
executiveYes. Thanks for the question, Mike. Broadly speaking, all of our businesses are trending well in terms of growth and sequential acceleration. I would say we've seen some timing differences relative to kind of project timing and that's affected pieces of our packaging and color hardware business. to a lesser extent on the water side. And I would say projects tend to move around a little bit, but they generally come through. So we haven't seen any indefinite delays or project cancellations but timing sometimes is variable there. In the main, I would say, by virtue of our large sort of recurring revenue business, things are pretty steady. Demand continues for the products and services that we have. We've got great secular drivers relative to data centers and feeder industries in power semiconductor and mining, recycled reclaim is big on the muni side as water scarcity becomes a bigger issue. And I would say in the Food Safety Modernization Act, it's driving a lot of need for product reformulation, packaging changes and so on. So we see good demand there as well. So I think we feel pretty good about the outlook here in the fourth quarter and the fact that we believe that momentum will continue here into 2027.
Michael Halloran
analystI appreciate that. And then just on the capital deployment side, it's been an aggressive year and balanced with buybacks and M&A. So maybe a twofold question. One, how are you thinking about the buyback intent in the short term? Obviously, you saw some of the ongoing repurchases in October. But then how do you think about the pipeline after having completed a fair number of acquisitions over the last 18 months or so?
Sameer Ralhan
executiveYes. Mike, thanks for the question. As far as the buyback is concerned, look, if you add what we have done in October that we disclosed, we effectively done with $550 million of share repurchases out of the $750 program. Look, I mean, we -- as we always said, we're going to be opportunistic. And if there's an opportunity in the marketplace where we think there's a disconnect between the intrinsic value of the market value, you should fully expect us to be using the authorization. So we'll continue on that path. As far as overall, the pipelines are concerned, look, the pipelines are pretty active on the M&A side, both. So as we kind of move forward, we expect to stay pretty balanced. So there's no change in the overall capital allocation strategy.
Operator
operatorAnd we'll take our next question from Nathan Jones with Stifel.
Unknown Analyst
analystThis is Adam Farley on for Nathan. Maybe on chemical treatment within water quality on the data center piece, what is Veralto's overall exposure to data centers within water quality maybe where do you think that exposure can grow to over time? And where in the data center construction time line does chemical treatment benefit.
Jennifer Honeycutt
executiveYes. So overall, as we've said previously, our total sales in the data centers today remains small. We will say that our data center growth continued to be very strong and, in fact, doubled in Q3, but that's obviously off of a small base. And the draw here is from both our treatment and our analytics businesses. we are, by virtue of our ChemTreat business engaged early in those project bills and get requested to participate in helping to consult on water train and water treatment design so that customers can optimize both water utilization, power consumption. Those often are counterbalanced to one another. And so finding the balance between power-efficient and water-efficient design is something that every data center is working to solve for. So we are involved early in the process. We have a good installed base relative to utility water and increasingly have offerings and are really in the liquid side of direct-to-ship cooling as well. So good exposure here, small base of business, growing double digits, strong double digits and we would expect that to continue for the foreseeable future.
Sameer Ralhan
executiveYes. I mean, Adam, as you're going to think about the data center business for us, especially on the treatment side, it's an annuity business for us. So yes, the bill cycle I get that question, but think of our business predominantly as more annuity business. So as these data centers come in and then operate.
Unknown Analyst
analystThat's really helpful color. And then just staying on all quality. Can you provide an update on your expectations for growth regionally? Do you expect North America to continue to lead growth maybe through next year and then maybe what are you seeing out of China?
Jennifer Honeycutt
executiveJust to clarify, the last point was what do we expect out of China?
Unknown Analyst
analystYes, in water quality.
Jennifer Honeycutt
executiveOkay. water quality. Yes. So China continues to be lower in its muni spend, kind of still bumping along the bottom there. We're not accounting for or expecting any significant change there. But as a reminder, China represents about 6% of our sales. In Latin America, water was down modestly year-over-year, but higher sequentially throughout the quarter here. Underlying demand is strong, the timing of some of these projects has been delayed, and that's largely on the back of waiting for election results and so on. I would say, given the completion of the election here in Brazil, that uncertainty should clear here, and we should start to see that demand start to increase. So we continue to watch our high-growth markets here -- they have been relatively lower than their name would suggest with good growth in the western markets of Europe and North America, but we continue to have good opportunities in Latin America, I would say as well in India, parts of Southeast Asia, but China is definitely still not investing.
Operator
operatorAnd we'll take our next question from Andy Kaplowitz with Citigroup.
Andrew Kaplowitz
analystSo maybe we could just double click into the reacceleration of organic growth you're seeing in PI. You Jennifer, you mentioned some project delays, but obviously, your growth has been picking up and you've continued to talk about acceleration in digital workflow solutions. So what are the core customers telling you? And given that the economic environment is sort of mixed out there?
Jennifer Honeycutt
executiveYes. I mean, I think what we see here is strong demand and bookings of our digital workflow solutions. This is on the back of the TraceGains Global Vision acquisitions being integrated into the Esko digital backbone and as you know, we book revenue over the life of the contracts, which gives us good visibility and confidence in the sequential core growth acceleration. We continue to see steady demand in marking and coating, right? There are some category changes within consumer product goods. But effectively, we see strong continued performance and uptake from our mid-market customers. That's going to continue to result in sequential core sales growth. And then I would say the other element here is Q4 has got a relatively easy comp in our marking and coating side of the business. So that's an element as well. And then finally, say that our sales recovery of our color measurement equipment and packaging and color, we would expect that to come back. And we see good commercial execution, good funnels. We exited Q3 with stronger service growth, and that gives us confidence here as we head into Q4.
Andrew Kaplowitz
analystVery helpful, Jennifer. And then Sameer, can you give more color into what you're seeing maybe in price versus cost, I think you're modeling adjusted operating margin to be down a bit in Q4 versus Q3, even excluding the tariff benefit in Q3. So just maybe the puts and takes on sort of how you're thinking about margin in Q4?
Sameer Ralhan
executiveYes. as you look maybe just sort of the margin first. If you look at the margin for Q4, yes, sequentially, most of the impact that you see is really driven by the Cleanwater1 acquisition. -- overall, for our Q4 margins, you should fully expect the fall-through to be 30% to 35%. So that's roughly 30 bps of a margin expansion on a year-over-year basis. Cost optimization program, if you look at the guide that we've given for the full year, that adds another roughly 40 basis points to the OMX for Q4. So that's a 70 and that 70 is mostly offset by Clean Water One acquisition. Is that how we're going to model in -- but as you know, in Q4, we do tend to make some investments to help support '27 strategic initiatives. So we've built in a fairly healthy amount of investment in Q4 tied to that. To the extent that those things come in light, of course, there will be upside to the guidance.
Operator
operatorAnd we'll take our next question from Jacob Levinson with Melius Research.
Jacob Levinson
analystJust to go back to Mike's question for a second on the M&A side of things. I know you folks have been pretty active here with a number of bolt-on deals. But can you just give us a sense of what that funnel looks like from here? Is a lot of these smaller assets that are out there? Or are there also some larger deals that you might be interested in as well?
Jennifer Honeycutt
executiveYes. I would say, Jake, that it's a mix. Both funnel or funnels on both sides of the house are healthy and full lots of cultivation work underway. I think what you've seen us do here in the first 3 years is build out our position in treatment in the environmental business and digital workflow solutions, all of which are expansions of our current positions, but squarely within our wheelhouse. So we feel good about the funnels -- there are all kinds of assets in those funnels. There are large deals, they're small deals, there's technology deals. There's geographic expansion deals. And so we have a track record here of going after these strategic bolt-ons. I think we're well served by that. But again, we've got a variety of different types of assets in our funnel that will continue to work and bring those in under the very disciplined approach that we've taken thus far to increase long-term shareholder value.
Jacob Levinson
analystOkay. That's helpful. You made a comment in your slide deck on Slide 4 that I'm not sure it seemed before around not graded facilities. I know you've done some work on the footprint, given everything with tariffs, but maybe you can just elaborate on what that really means.
Jennifer Honeycutt
executiveYes. I don't think it's unreasonable to think that some of our technologies might have atrophied in prior times. -- being a smaller portion of Danaher. And so this is just part and parcel to continuing to mine the shop here at Veralto and make sure that we are have modernized tech stack for all of our data systems to ensure that we are continuing to invest in technology. One example would be robotic automation of our Chemkey lines at Hach, right? We will continue to modernize and upgrade manufacturing facilities, our ability to utilize data in ways that are AI friendly. And so this is just part and parcel to making sure that we are staying fit operationally as we would say. And to make sure that we've got access to the latest and greatest tools to continue to be able to run the business well.
Sameer Ralhan
executiveYes. And Jake, like for those of you who have been to our hot manufacturing facility in the last 12 to 18 months and any of the tours, right, you've seen all the automation that we have done over there on the board manufacturing side. So those are the kind of examples where we are really upgrading our manufacturing footprint to be able to serve the customers more recently and more effectively here in the U.S.
Operator
operatorAnd we'll take our next question from John McNulty with BMO Capital Markets.
John McNulty
analystCongrats on some really solid results. I wanted to dig into the water side and in particular, water treatment and the UV treatment, just where you saw the double-digit growth I guess, can you help us to think about at least high level, how much price there was there? I think some of the players in the industry put out some blanketed type pricing and -- it looks like it was around mid-single digit. I know you're a little more surgical. So maybe a little more detail or color around the pricing environment would be helpful.
Sameer Ralhan
executiveYes, John, thanks for the question. Look, the pricing over there is in -- pretty much in line with what you're seeing overall, John. We want to make sure that we're coming the inflation and the chemicals that's coming in the chemical treatment side. but those are very selective discussions with the customers to make sure that we are serving them well and making sure we're getting paid for the service that we are delivering. So there is nothing out of the normal overall what -- from our perspective, pricing is an important lever. At the same time, installed base and having those contracts in place for the longer term is really key. As you know, as we kind of think about the water treatment, both on the ChemTreat side and the UV treatment side, having installed base really drives recurring revenue over the longer term. So we're always very mindful of that you're going to think of the price in the instruments versus the services versus consumables?
John McNulty
analystGot it. Okay. No, that's helpful. And then -- also in the water side you've made a couple of transactions, some very recent, some -- you've had a little duration on. I guess can you speak to the growth that you're seeing in those businesses? Are they seeing any incremental synergy benefits on the revenue side yet or not? And how you're thinking about that going forward?
Sameer Ralhan
executiveYes. Maybe, John, I'll start with that. If you look at the acquisitions that we've done on the water side, the first 1 was in situ at the beginning of the year, really solid start. You've seen us the expansion in the water side, if you look at the M&A contribution line in the water quality, like fairly solidly contributing that you see the impact of In situ. Overall, I would say on the synergy side of the commercial we are well ahead of the plan actually that we used to underwrite the acquisitions. So we're feeling really solid about the in situ and you're going to start seeing that in the organic growth as we kind of move into next year. . I would say the Aquafina acquisition that we did in Europe on the UV treatment side, again, really solid execution and contribution that we're seeing over there. Alpha UV and Cleanwater1, it's early days, right, Alpha UV, they've been there only less than a month. Cleanwater1 has been there for us than a month with us. So more to come on Alfa cleanwater as you're going to move into the year and we talk about the guide overall, really pleased with the execution and the synergies, especially the synergy part on both in situ as well as AQUAFIDES.
Jennifer Honeycutt
executiveWell, the way to think about this is all of those assets that Sameer just mentioned, are high single-digit, low double-digit growers, right? And these -- and it's by virtue of where they sit in the water treatment process and site certainly in groundwater hydrology side of things as municipalities look for intelligence around what water is coming into their plant as influence. Alpha UV, our UV business at Trojan, it's been a high single digit, low double-digit grower. Alpha gets us really good position in India. -- with good sales into sort of industrial applications and CleanWater One has a leading set of technologies that really help in sort of the disinfection odor control and solid management side. So again, these are all sort of technologies and product lines that sit in high-value areas that are structurally faster growing than some other portions of the portfolio.
Operator
operatorAnd we'll take our next question from Robert Davies with Wolfe Research.
Robert Davies
analystI had 2. One was just on the cost optimization program. You'd obviously fleshed out some early gains there, $10 million to $15 million. But -- could you provide us a little bit more color exactly what you're doing, what are the kind of main areas of focus is for that program? And then the second question was just around the sort of nonrecurring part of your business, sort of the 40%, I guess, of water quality. What's going on there? Do you see any sort of slowdown, any kind of impact from higher interest rates, any more caution or downtrading? That would be great.
Sameer Ralhan
executiveThanks, Robert. I'll start with the cost optimization first. The cost optimization program is really focused around 3 activities. The first is the simplification of the business processes. Second is the functional transformations to optimize the cost and then really looking at the investment that we can do to improve the competitive positioning from the technology perspective or the process improvement perspective. So how really the activities in the cost optimization program are our focus around. We've had a pretty nice start to the program early on. And as you're going to look at making the investments overall, we are still on plan to deliver roughly half of the savings by the end of '27 and the full run rate in 2028. So that's how you should think about the cost optimization program.
Jennifer Honeycutt
executiveAnd relative to your question around the 40% of water quality that is a hardware or instrument base. bear in mind that we've got hundreds of thousands of instruments from water quality sitting out in our installed base. And those will have a 7-year life on average. So ongoing sort of reoccurring revenue to upgrade hardware move to modern technologies as there are changes in the knowledge base of folks that sit in water treatment plants. There's a trend towards deskilling of the labor, and we've made concerted effort here to glass workflows, simplify the technologies that are deployed and so we feel good about the ongoing demand for new technology purchases and upgrading the existing installed base that's out there.
Operator
operatorAnd our next question comes from Andrew Buscaglia with BNP Paribas.
Andrew Buscaglia
analystI'm just wondering if you can kind of set us up into '27 on margins here. And I know you don't want to probably give guidance for next year, but I think your margins are really starting to accelerated, it is a stark contrast to kind of what else we're seeing this earnings season where cost and inflationary pressures are starting to sting some companies. But you guys have navigated that quite well. But before we -- just looking out to '27, are you cautious on cost creeping in any sort of business? Are you seeing any challenges on the horizon and have crept up in the last 3 months in terms of inflationary pressures. Yes, and kind of what's your view on just price cost and the ability to continue this margin acceleration into '27.
Sameer Ralhan
executiveYes, Andrew, thanks for the question. Let's start with the raw material cost and the price side first. As you kind of look at this year, look, we are seeing inflation, right? You're seeing the inflation in some of the materials that are tied to or which are oil derivatives. You've got to start looking at some of the transportation costs, memory prices, of course, as you know, we are an instrumentation company. So we do have some exposure over there. So we are seeing those price increases, but a really solid VES-driven execution and the partnership between our procurement teams and the business teams to help offset that. So at this point, as the results demonstrate both in Q3 and also as you look at the guide for Q4, we believe we are well positioned at least in 2026 to make sure we offset that and drive the margins. Now as we kind of move into 2027, look, we will, Andrew, talk in more detail in February. But overall, I think it's fair to expect that, look, we will have 30% to 35% of a fall through, and that's close to 30-ish bps on the margin side. cost optimization, of course, if you do the run rate, roughly $35 million cost saves. Now we look at $15 million already this year, right? So that's going to be a little bit of an upside on the cost optimization side on the margin side. But we are going to have a couple of headwinds as well on the margin side as we move into 2027. We got a little bit of benefit from tariffs, so that's not going to be there next year. And then some of the dilution from the CleanWater One acquisition. So they get lots of puts and takes. More details to come in February.
Andrew Buscaglia
analystOkay. Yes. And I wanted to ask on Cleanwater1 One. I think this deal -- what's interesting to me was that it's kind of a perfect set with Trojan and there seems to be some real synergies like real near-term synergies where you might even get some accretion in '27. It sounds like on the bottom line. Was that the impetus to do this deal or where it's like a kind of a cost savings margin ramp type deal? Or is it like a missing link to your kind of technology portfolio that you think you had to have?
Jennifer Honeycutt
executiveYes. I think we're most attracted to the leading technologies that are brought with the acquisition. This bolsters are our technology portfolio relative to treatment, and it expands our penetration into higher-growth water treatment applications. They've got a terrific 25,000 instrument installed base there, equipment installed base with deep applications expertise. We do see commercial synergies with Trojan and their UV treatment solutions. I think the first order of business, obviously, is don't break what we bought. So we will bring them in, in the customary way relative to other acquisitions and focus on making sure that -- they're firing on all cylinders as we look for those opportunities to bring synergies together with Trojan.
Sameer Ralhan
executiveYes. And Andrew, to your point, regarding the accretion, right? The point that I made earlier is on the margin, it might be a little dilutive. But from the EPS perspective, we expect it to be flat to slightly accretive as you said. .
Operator
operatorThank you. And we'll take our next question from Jeff Reve with RBC Capital Markets.
Unknown Analyst
analystThank you. Good morning, everyone. My first question is on just PQI and so the high-growth markets there grew 4.7% with strength in China and Latin America. I think that's a notable reversal from the declines earlier this year. I mean what changed? And is this recovery broad-based or concentrated in specific products?
Jennifer Honeycutt
executiveYes. I think 1 of the things that we see here with our high-growth market exposure in PQI is we see good growth in China as manufacturing has come online and industrial output increases there, particularly relative to our coding and marketing business. Anywhere in the world, we see a growing middle class that leads to more sort of consumption. We see that in India, I see it in parts of Southeast Asia, and we've seen relatively good uptake as well in Latin America for our products and services. So I think the secular drivers that are around sort of industrial manufacturing, for products that you'd see in our packaging and color side, in terms of brand development as well as coding and marking is something that we continue to see as well. So good position here in high-growth markets, and we would expect that to just continue.
Unknown Analyst
analystGot it. Okay. And maybe just to double click on PQI in the fourth quarter. I think you said you expect a meaningful acceleration in the digital workflow solutions. Can you just help us calibrate what meaningful means -- and is this driven by bookings and ACV already in hand? Or is there an element of pipeline conversion that needs to occur? Or is this an easy comp?
Sameer Ralhan
executiveYes, Jeff, when we say it's meaningful really, when you kind of look at the guidance, right, we said 500, 6.5% Petri will be closer to the high end of the range, right, for Q4 guide? -- what's driving it? It's really, as Jennifer said earlier on the call, right, is the digital workflow solution is going to be the biggest piece. There we have the bookings and be recognizing revenue over time. So when you kind of look at a 3-month period, we have a pretty solid visibility on that. On the Marking and Coating side, it's going to be a steady demand. So they have a little bit of comp helps for us. And last, the element that's giving us the confidence on the guide in Q4 is really the recovery in the color and measurement instruments. As you know, that business has been down for almost 4 quarters -- and as we exited the Q3, the order books look good, good commercial execution that is giving us the confidence. So really, it's not dependent on 1 factor or the other is it's really a combination of those 3 factors which is giving us the confidence as we're going to think about the core growth for PQI in Q4. Appreciate it.
Operator
operatorAnd we'll take our next question from Steve Volkmann with Jefferies. This is Jae on for Steve here.
Jae Hyun Ko
analystI guess I wanted to touch on water quality here a bit. Data center, obviously, small, but it has doubled and you kind of talked about chemical processing, food and bad power and mining also in double digit here. So are these kind of new site wins driven that kind of are going to build an annuity going forward? Or are those more so kind of recurring OpEx work? And how should we think about like sizing of this like fast-growing market exposure. I know data centers is small, but if we have to combine everything, how big are those?
Jennifer Honeycutt
executiveYes. So we don't disclose our sales by vertical market segment, Rest assured, when these are of size that require us to declare, you'll see it in print. But the way to think about our play in data centers is very much driven by the recurring revenue side of things. So for our ChemTreat business, obviously, there is a consultative opportunity early on when the plant is being designed. But the reality is, is where we really gain traction and start to accelerate is when those data centers come online. So there's greenfields, there's brownfields, there's expansion of existing data centers. The technology within a data center will be upgraded every 5 to 6 years. So over life of a 30-year data center. You've got 56 opportunities really to play a role in how they upgrade and optimize. But the reality is, is we've got to play in utility water and then certainly when those data centers come online, they're operating 24/7, and that's an opportunity for us to continue to have good penetration of our chemical solutions and services that go into everything from utility water to direct to chip cooling as well. So I think the drivers here are pretty durable in terms of how we think about this going forward with every data center that comes online and increasing opportunity for us to gain market share.
Jae Hyun Ko
analystAwesome. I guess following up on that, I mean, you kind of talked about increasingly offering into kind of the liquid side of direct-to-ship fooling here. and that kind of sounds like a different role from utility water caster. So what are you actually selling there? Is it like employed chemistry, monitoring filtration? And is the content per site kind of richer than like the traditional cooling water side?
Sameer Ralhan
executiveYes, there is going to be -- look, it's going to be fluid and the service is kind of tied to it. You've seen us announce a partnership with now as well, right on the glycol side. So it's a combination of things around that and the services that go along with it.
Operator
operatorAnd we'll take our next question from Josh Spector with UBS.
Unknown Analyst
analystThis is James Cannon on for Josh. I just wanted to I just wanted to dig into the regional trends in PQI again. To me, the Europe numbers seem to lag a bit versus -- to us, it seemed like the end consumer trends seem a bit more stable region to region. Can you just unpack what you're seeing there and how you expect that to trend going forward?
Jennifer Honeycutt
executiveSo yes, the low single-digit growth in packaging and color in Western Europe, -- what we see there is marketing and coding flat. We do see solid growth in consumables, but modestly lower sales and equipment. And that's largely on the back of some timing around customer spend. We do see solid growth in Western Europe for Marking & Coating during the first half of the year, and we do expect certainly to see some growth here in the fourth quarter.
Operator
operatorAnd we'll take our final question from Joe Giordano from TD Cowen.
Joseph Giordano
analystSP-24 So the acceleration at PQI here into 4Q. I just wanted to kind of understand how representative of that of the true underlying conditions as we go into next year? Like is that a good exit rate to be building? I know you don't want to give guidance here, but just is there anything in that kind of 6.5 that's a little bit of onetime, a little bit comps? Or should we kind of think about that's truly the pace of growth across that portfolio now?
Sameer Ralhan
executiveYes. Thanks, Joe, for the question. Yes, look, I won't draw straight line from that. Needless to say, in 2027 at this point. We'll talk about that in February. But if you kind of look at the buildup to the core growth in Q4 for PQI, right, marking & coating is kind of steady. So that should kind of flow into 2027 at this point based on everything that we know. . On the digital workflow solutions side, that is driven by the underlying demand in the TraceGains, Global Vision and CorSo product lines that should expect that to grow. But on the color measurement side, comp is helping, right? If you recall, we started seeing the weakness in the second half of last year. So Q3, Q4 were pretty weak in the color measurement side. So that will normalize over time. But we will talk about more in detail in February, Joe, but there are some elements which are kind of helping from a comp perspective here, too.
Joseph Giordano
analystYes. Okay. And then just on the water quality broadly, I'd say like -- as we've gone through the earnings season, most of the commentary across water has been utilities kind of little bit constrained on spend and project delays. And we fully appreciate the nature of your business is not into these projects, you're not doing water meters and stuff like that. But ultimately, if these utilities are facing kind of budgetary constraints to some extent, does that ultimately like roll over to you guys on some sort of lag to a lesser extent? Like how should we think about the issues that they're seeing in 1 part of their spend ultimately impacting like the totality of the spend.
Jennifer Honeycutt
executiveYes. I mean, obviously, the vast majority of our sales in water are OpEx instead of CapEx, where they are they tend to be on the operating side of technology upgrades and facility improvements as opposed to infrastructure where government funding and federal funding is more material. But look, we represent a low relative cost of the entire operating environment where critical workflows are essential. The cost of failure to the customer is high, and they're not going to take a chance on choosing not to fund water treatment operations. So our sales here are really durable, 60% recurring revenue. The other 40% is really around sort of upgrades and reoccurring revenue relative to equipment that needs to be replaced over time. So again, we see this as being pretty durable on an ongoing basis, and we are very minimally exposed to sort of federal funding fluctuations. So we like where we sit, and we continue to have good momentum here.
Ryan Taylor
executiveThanks, Joe. This is Ryan Taylor with Veralto. We just wanted to thank everybody for joining the call. That ends the question-and-answer portion of the call. And we really appreciate the engagement, and we wish everyone well, and we will talk to you next quarter.
Operator
operatorI would like to thank everybody for their participation. Please feel free to disconnect at any time.
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