Viatris Inc. (VTRS) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
September 17, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Jason Gerberry
analystHello, everybody. Good morning, good afternoon, depending upon where you're located. My name is Jason Gerberry. I cover specialty pharma and biotech at Bank of America. And I'm pleased to be introducing our next company presenter, Mylan, soon to be Viatris, following a fourth quarter expected merger close date between Mylan and Pfizer's Upjohn unit. So I am pleased to be moderating today's fireside chat. On the call with us today, we've got Robert Coury, Executive Chairman; Michael Goettler, future CEO of Viatris; Rajiv Malik, President of Mylan and soon to be Viatris; and Sanjeev Narula a CFO. We also have Melissa Trombetta on the phone from Investor Relations. I'm going to turn it over to Melissa. She's got some forward-looking statements that she wants to make. And then we'll go to Rob, who has a few prepared remarks and then I'll launch into Q&A.
Melissa Trombetta
executiveGreat. Thank you, Jason. Good morning, good afternoon, everyone. Just a few reminders, first, we're currently in a blackout period and we'll be limited on what we can say on a number of matters, including financial guidance for 2020. In addition, during today's session, we may make forward-looking statements, including related to the proposed transactions pursuant to which Mylan will combine with Pfizer's Upjohn business to create a new company that will be named Viatris. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause future results or events to differ materially from today's projections. Please refer to our SEC filings for a further explanation of those risks and uncertainties and the limits applicable to forward-looking statements. Thank you, Jason.
Jason Gerberry
analystGreat. And with that, I think, Robert, I think you had a few prepared remarks that you wanted to make and then I can go into Q&A.
Robert Coury
executiveYes. Just a couple of things. First of all, I want to express my thanks to you and to all your listeners. We are extremely excited. As you know, we rounded the corner, we're at or very near the close. I think all of us are very excited about the creation of this new organization. I have spent a tremendous amount of time with shareholders over the last few months. And so without no further ado, I'd like to -- I'm even more excited to introduce this new management team and use today as a beginning of a transition and more of a handoff to them as we move towards the close. So thank you very much, and I'll comment as necessary.
Jason Gerberry
analystAll right. Great. Well, I mean, to the extent that you guys are able to discuss, I am curious to starting with the Upjohn merger. And I know that part of the strategic rationale, expanding Mylan's presence into the Chinese end market and leveraging Upjohn's presence there, potentially being a partner of choice with young biotech companies, who have interesting, innovative assets but lack the commercial presence to bring those therapeutics to the Chinese market. I know that Pfizer had a pilot program, looking to sort of employ this strategy but never really went all-in on it. So I'm curious, maybe for Michael or Robert, if you can talk a little bit about why you believe -- what drives the confidence that Viatris could become a partner of choice in Chinese end market for innovative biotech assets?
Michael Goettler
executiveJason, this is Michael. And let me take that question. And you're absolutely correct about Upjohn. We had a few pilot programs. But let me say off the bat, Viatris is not Upjohn, Viatris is a combination of Mylan and Upjohn. And this is really a classic example of how you do more with more and actually much, much more. And it's one of the reasons that I'm so excited about this combination, one of the reasons we are, as a management team, so excited about the combination. Because together, we believe we have a very unique platform that will be of great value, not just to our current business but also to our partners. We now have a commercial presence in over 175 countries, strong commercial presence, China being one great example of that. We've got over 50 manufacturing sites around the world, the ability to be local, where we need to be with our manufacturing, strong technical expertise, strong science, farm side, regulatory, development capabilities, legal, you name it. We have speed, I think, is one of the hallmarks. We have a cost-efficient platform. And we believe there's a high demand out there, especially for mid-sized companies that otherwise don't have access to such a global platform. But if you can, Jason, allow me to step back a little bit and give your listeners a bit more context about all the ways we plan to create shareholder value. And this Global Healthcare Gateway, this partnering opportunity is just one of them. I think it's really important to understand the full Viatris story and our path to shareholder value creation. And let me start off the bat saying that our commitment to total shareholder returns is absolutely clear, starting with the firm commitment to the dividend, as we repeatedly said, 25% of free cash flow for the first full quarter after close. And then we do see significant potential for multiple expansion as well. And the path to get there is very clear and comes really in 5 stages. The first one is, as Robert pointed out, we're very, very close to closing of the transaction now. You saw that very recently, we received EU approval. So now the U.S. approval is the last hurdle remaining, and we're on track to close in quarter 4. I think that will be a very important event. Secondly, we then immediately change to Viatris' new business model, which includes the planned initiation of the dividend. But also, we're going to give 2021 guidance on Investor Day that is transparent to the investors. It takes into account all the puts and takes we see and what we believe we can do. And that will come, I think, end of February, early March is what you should count on. The third element is business execution, is taking these 2 amazing businesses, putting them together, integrating them while delivering and executing in a consistent and transparent way and a measurable way. And integration, we're very pleased with the progress that we're making. We are confident in delivering $1 billion in cost synergies over 4 years. That's an effort that Rajiv will be leading. We're delivering on our significant pipeline launches over the next 3 to 4 years. And also, we believe there are some revenue synergies that we can realize maybe after year 2. And then the fourth one is what you talk about, which is our priorities in capital allocation after dividend and after debt paydown, where all of our future investments will be very focused through the Global Healthcare Gateway. And this will not only fuel future growth but also return to shareholders. And if you look at the recent Mylan deal with Aspen, since you talk about business development, just as one example. Now as a disclaimer, I'm still looking outside-in due to obvious FTC restrictions. But what I can see on the outside, I believe that deal is a great example of what you can expect from us in terms of strategic fit, in terms of margin contribution, in terms of the discipline and shareholder value creation. So the Global Healthcare Gateway is one of the many ways we create value. If you take all of this, what I explained together, what you can expect from us over the next 4 years is an EBITDA, earnings and cash flow growth story, all while strengthening our balance sheet, delivering and returning value to shareholders, and then after those 4 years, top line growth with operating leverage that then continues to drive EBITDA earnings -- and earnings growth with significant financial flexibility. And if you look at all of this, the 5 stages I laid out and the financial profile they generate, in terms of stability, in terms of margins, the investment-grade leverage and the dividend yield, it's clear that Viatris is really in a class on its own and the profile speaks for itself. And therefore, we believe there's significant potential to deliver shareholder values through the dividend but also multiple expansion. So I'll pause there, but I really wanted to provide the context to you.
Robert Coury
executiveAnd I think the only thing I would add, Michael -- thank you very, very much. The only thing I'd like to add specifically to China, since that's been a reference of yours, we've been doing a lot of work in China beginning in 2008, spent a tremendous amount of time in '12, knew exactly what we wanted to do in 2016. And hence, why we saw this opportunity with the Pfizer Upjohn division there as a natural fit and also the closure of the building of the decade-plus of Mylan putting a global infrastructure in place, which is going to prove out to be an invaluable asset, Jason. Not only are we going to play and not only are we going to fill an unmet need globally, but I think we're going to play an extremely important role to governments. But in China, if you know anything there is about the market, you cannot undercut the type of reps, the long-term reps that have the deepest relationship with the government hospitals who control about 85%, 90% of the patient population. Everything is done through the hospital. So you can't even just think you can hire a sales force and think that you're going to get the kind of penetration. So when you think about the combination of especially the Chinese biotech companies, a lot of these biotech companies, even ones outside of China, have fantastic science. And so what we consider to be a partner of choice, either they can partner with us and we can help them with some of the science. But what we really bring to them is a global legal, compliance, regulatory and then most importantly, the high cost of infrastructure, they could never put that in place. So when you think about the high-quality infrastructure that we have, imagine the core competencies that we bring to the table, imagine what the biotech companies have, there's almost a huge need out there for the type of collaborations that we envision. And we're seeing it and living it daily. And China is a very special market. And I think we have an upper hand, given the longevity of the Pfizer Upjohn asset and what they've embedded in China because it's a very high-quality asset. Jason, next question.
Jason Gerberry
analystOkay. Great. And I don't want to belabor the point on China, but just one follow-up that I have. As I think about where you were as a company, 2016, focused on generic medicines, biosimilars, some OTC products in international markets. Fast-forward, I look at Upjohn's capabilities, they had a portfolio off-patent medicines. So just curious, organizationally, do you need to expand the internal biz dev team to identify new individuals that can the help identify quality biotech assets? Just wondering how the organization is structured to execute against that strategy.
Robert Coury
executiveI mean I think it's actually a great question, Jason. I mean there's a lot to your question, but it's a great question because this is not something you can do or even think about overnight. It's something that has to be very, very well planned out. I would just go start at the end, the Global Healthcare Gateway, I mean, you can rest assure that there will be a brand-new infrastructure being put in place there. Because you're going to see that the Global Healthcare Gateway is really not anything new, and forgive me, it's really an opportunity for us to package a lot of the things that we've already done but in a much more fragmented way. So one of the things that the management team, and Michael will take lead on this because the Global Healthcare Gateway will be driven by the CEO, that is the future of our company. But to bring some robustness so that people don't think that the Global Healthcare Gateway is just an inspiration or an aspiration, we are going to consolidate and package all the R&D investments we made to date. And what have we yielded with them? We're going to package all the business development deals we've done to date. And what did we yield? What is the return on investments? We're going to take a look at all the collaborations that we've done with partners and what -- not only what we have yielded for, say, Mylan, but what about the partners? What have we yielded for them? We think that, that foundational -- putting that foundation in place as a starting point, that will give people the real sense of vision of how we're going to scale that up on the Global Healthcare Gateway. So Michael, do you want to add anything to that?
Michael Goettler
executiveNo, absolutely. And I think what's maybe underappreciated a little bit the Mylan's track record here. So maybe I'll ask Rajiv to comment a little bit on that.
Rajiv Malik
executiveYes, Jason. Thanks for the question. And as you will know, I think just to correct a little bit of those stats, Mylan is not new to the off-patent brands. And as with Abbott, I think after Abbott and Meda, just before, we have this 33% portfolio of Mylan comes from this off-patent brand. And I would say that we have done a pretty decent job. And in fact, I'm very proud of some of the work which we've done with the Abbott brands. When we acquired these brands, these were at best, they were flat or declining. Now for example, this whole portfolio is growing. Creon is a double-digit growth, 12% growth from '17 to '20, Influvac, another double-digit growth, so is Dona or Dymista, which came along with the Meda. And I would say, Upjohn has further enhanced and strengthened our commercial infrastructure, product offering, our sales force, 14,000 sales reps across the globe, a very strong medical affairs team to support this, which you require, I think it's a prerequisite to sustain this off-patent brand. And I'm very confident that with the strengthening of these capabilities, we'll be able to do it even better with this off-patent brand. Michael, back to you.
Robert Coury
executiveBut let me just add one last thing, Jason. You talk about China, and I don't think you could talk about China enough. I think it's a mistake for anybody to think that what's going on in China is something that happened overnight. We have watched this -- just to maybe give you some color. When we bought Matrix in 2007, we inherited 2 manufacturing sites. And that really was our first exposure to China. We had 2 sites that provide excipients to our API business. So we've been studying China ever since. And I can tell you, in 2012, I think the government in China -- nothing happens overnight in China. The only thing that can happen overnight in China is they walk into your business and shut you down. That's probably the only thing that can happen overnight in China. Outside of that, everything China does is an extraordinarily -- and they have a very strong, very powerful, methodical process. They are well thought out. And so in 2012, I think they put in motion back then all the activity, you could just follow it along of what everyone is seeing today. So it's not anything new. We were able to follow along with that. And so we've actually been in China. And in 2016, because when we bought Meda, we inherited a commercial platform there. That's when we knew exactly what to do there. So I don't -- I think China is a huge opportunity for us going forward in the future. And hence, one of the things that, when I've given soft numbers out there about our starting point, a big chunk of what I've considered is what has happened in China. We just -- going forward, I said 2021 will be a real trough year for -- to start from. And a big portion of that is dealing with what's going on in China.
Michael Goettler
executiveJust one more thing to add, Jason, as I think your question was not about off-patent, your question was about on-patent and how we do this. So just to say at a high level, I think the platform we have is very, very impressive. There is a need out there. There is an unmet need out there, especially with small- and mid-sized biotech companies that don't have access to the platform that we have. And we fully intend to give you more color on where we see the opportunities, the strategy we're taking on Investor Day.
Jason Gerberry
analystGreat. Now maybe for Rajiv, just this -- can you just elaborate a little bit on the interplay between the Upjohn deal synergies versus the delayed Mylan restructuring program? I'm just wanting to get some clarity. I assume that these are completely separate. But I'm just kind of curious, as you think about the restructuring program, to the extent that, that's incremental to the deal synergies that have been clearly articulated.
Rajiv Malik
executiveSo Jason, I'm glad you're asking this question because I think this clarification is important, 2 completely different initiatives. And as we explained earlier, our business transformation work is nothing about cost-cutting but focus on unlocking latent value. We completed -- we took about a year -- more than a year to complete a holistic review of business plan and developed an integrated transformation plan, which included and not limited to. We started with the rationalization of the negative contribution margin products, which were not earning even their cost of capital. We focused on refocusing and redeploying commercial resources to promote further growth of our most responsive products while improving margins of unresponsive products. Centralizing and rightsizing our commercial and operating infrastructure, rather than every country having everything, we created those centers of experience to provide some of those services. We even comprehensively evaluated and reviewed our R&D pipeline and rationalizing investment, taking into consideration the evolving industry landscape and especially regarding the commoditized products and while we wanted to focus on going up the value chain from a science point of view. Now as it comes to synergies, that's -- clearly, these 2 companies coming together and the interplay between that, nothing to do with the business transformation. The first driver in synergy is [ cost to widen ], especially from Upjohn's perspective as Upjohn was in the process of being stood up and now won't need certain corporate functions and can save G&A; the second driver being overlap in selling and marketing when these 2 companies come together across several countries; the third being synergies which we can realize through the cost of goods. And most importantly, as you will appreciate that Upjohn will be relying upon multiple services being offered by Pfizer for a period of time as we separate and integrate through an arrangement called TSA, we will be able to absorb these services over a period of time. And as we come off these TSAs, that will be another contributor to the synergies. And Jason, you heard Michael speak about the confidence in the EBITDA growth. My confidence in EBITDA growth stems from the execution around this transformation and synergy program. And I'm -- we have a great track record. Between Mylan and Upjohn, we have great track record, not only meeting and exceeding these expectations, and I'm very confident about that.
Robert Coury
executiveThank you, Rajiv. It's a very fair question though, Jason. And it's actually a credible question. Because to be fair, when we started this business transformation, this was long before we even knew that the merger opportunity of this particular transaction was even at hand. And you are correct and why I think the question is credible, there was some cost-cutting early on at the time -- from the visibility we had. Then we had the transaction and then we had COVID. And a lot of that work got delayed. But now that we're in this stage from a pure timeline, once we close, then we're going to obviously reassess everything. And Rajiv did a wonderful job in articulating, these are 2 really separate and distinct type of activities that will be going on at Viatris as we move forward. Next question, Jason.
Jason Gerberry
analystYes. Maybe shifting to portfolio strategy-related questions here. Your approach to biosimilars, not that dissimilar, I think, from other companies in your subsector in terms of taking more of a cost and risk-sharing approach to development. But as you see the market evolving, I'm curious how your thoughts are evolving in terms of maybe full ownership of assets, bringing manufacturing fully in-house, the importance of that or if you still believe that the partnership approaches and the cost and risk-sharing approach is the better near- to medium-term approach.
Michael Goettler
executiveSo Jason, we always viewed our biosimilar business as a global business and built around multiple offerings of the portfolio. A portfolio was its strength. We wanted it to be as comprehensive as possible. And what we have learned over the last few years into this market, right product at the right time, enough supply, competitive cost are some of the imperatives to win in this market. And we had a mixed bag, and we continue to get every day some exciting news from the market as we are picking up market share across the globe. Now that's what we have today. And if you appreciate that we were relatively late in biosimilar space when we were getting started as compared to the companies like Novartis, but we did a good job partnering -- through the partnering model, quick to catch up and we partnered with Biocon, in between, we had partnership with Momenta. But then we were also opportunistic that if we didn't have a product in a portfolio, FKB partnership is a great example of aligning with FKB on Humira. And Enbrel recently in Europe is another good example, aligning with Europe. But it's a very appropriate question at this point of time as these 2 companies are start coming together. And it's not Mylan 2.0, it's Viatris 1.0. And as we sit down, we are evaluating everything what we have today, what we need for the future and which is the best way, the most optimal way to deliver that. And as you will expect, biosimilar market, we see it's a huge market, close to $150 billion market as the market evolves. We are keeping our options. We are evaluating all the options, of course, keeping in mind our very successful track record on the partnerships but also the merits on internalizing these disciplines.
Jason Gerberry
analystGreat. And I know the focus with investors is around the recent rollout of insulins on your end. And there's been -- you guys have been pretty vocal that you feel that there's a pathway to interchangeability designation for your biosimilar version of Lantus. And Rajiv, I'm just curious, practically speaking, how important do you think interchangeability is in the biosimilar landscape? I hear kind of mixed views, honestly, from different companies who are in the space. We can look at glatiramer acetate perhaps as an example of one of these chronic therapies, where physicians are reluctant to take a patient off of therapy, who's been on it for a while. And interchangeability designation, certainly, the adoption curves look nothing like small molecule pills. So I guess, ultimately, I've always thought of the insulin as a scale game. And so just curious your thoughts, just the tactical importance of securing an interchangeability designation.
Robert Coury
executiveRajiv, before you take that, if you don't mind. Jason, this is such a pinpoint and a very powerful question. Because I think we need to separate North America or, say, the United States and the rest of the world. I think in the United States, in particular, why you hit the nail on the head and why you're hearing things like interchangeability, is it really that relevant or not? One of the things I think the investor base and the investment community needs to understand is on the formularies, this division called Specialty, which is where biosimilars and insulin and where these products are pulled through. And all I can tell you is that the generic companies today are competing differently with brand companies and with various portfolios because it's much more about the rebates and it's much more about brand companies' activities, where they actually want to participate more rather than let go. So I do think there are some structural changes that occurred in the United States that you're seeing a different way to compete in the United States. And I would say that the rest of the world is still -- and remember, when we put the global franchise, the biosimilar franchise together, it was a global franchise portfolio. We've always thought we would start outside the United States and then come back in. And now that the -- there's been a market formation in the United States, it's very interesting to watch some of the dynamics that have changed and are at play right now. And I think with this administration, there's been a lot of discussion. I think at the HHS, there's going to be a lot more discussion. And I really think that the health care system in the United States is going to have to rethink about whether or not the way we compete today, given the new structural changes that have taken place, is this something the way it should be going forward? Or should we go back in when there is interchangeability when and if a product that can be interchanged, when it's available, then allow the pharmacist to go ahead and do it rather than the brand companies using other tactics, especially with rebates and everything to get their product on the formulary? Rajiv?
Rajiv Malik
executiveIt's a great question. No, let's look into -- this is a specific question to the insulin. And I'll give you -- if we were spending additional clinical additional dollars through additional study to get interchangeability, I would have to have debated with you the value proposition of that, Jason. But if I'm relying on the science, which is already a part of the approval package and aligns very well with the guidance laid out by FDA that this product can be classified interchangeable, now what we are trying to check the box is the administrative work, which we need to do to translate our file from a file [indiscernible] route to the partner route and claim the interchangeability. So I'm very confident that, that process is on, we'll get it. Now being but as insulin being a long-acting -- why interchangeability over here is important, we'll be the first player to claim it and the first player with [indiscernible] presentation, which is still about 25% of the market, much needed relief to the patients, payers, health care systems. And we believe interchangeability designation will provide an additional level of confidence for the patients, payers, providers with the recognition that there will be no concern left any whatsoever with regards to the safety, efficacy and clinical outcome.
Jason Gerberry
analystGreat. And maybe, Rob, just a follow-up, you got me thinking. So I wonder, which approach is better, the current state of affairs with biosimilars? I could look at one of your competitors in the pegfilgrastim market that's got sales north of $400 million and a gross margin above 90%. So one could make an argument that the current dynamics for biosimilars may be more of a better environment versus perhaps a more efficient market, where right now, I think pegfilgrastim, I think there's 4 competitors now in the market. That kind of in small molecule drug categories, that's where you start to get a little bit uncomfortable on the price race to the bottom starts. So I'm just kind of curious your perspective on things now versus where you think structurally things could change in the biosimilar landscape.
Robert Coury
executiveSo Rajiv, maybe you'll have a view, but let me start. I think the way we look at things, Jason, is in 3 components. Science always first, and that's why I'm glad Rajiv took the time to really emphasize on our insulin when it comes to science. Nothing is more important than the quality of the science. And then access, access is the second most important thing for us, then the value proposition, I think, is third in terms of -- so when you talk about the infrastructure here in the United States, I think science, access and value is the way we look at things. And I'll be honest with you, I don't particularly care for what has occurred in the last couple of years and some of the gamesmanship that has been done behind the scenes. And I think it's really caused a lot of the uproar of why people are demanding more transparency in how the system works. So look, from our perspective, we have learned to compete at the lowest level we take pride. And once we got the science, it's all about that cost of goods, the lowest level of cost of goods. And we believe that science and really competing, starting with getting our cost of goods down to the lowest level that we can, will automatically set us up to compete in any market around the world. It's when that starts to get interfered with, with other dynamics that occur in the marketplace, that's the kind of stuff that I think needs to be sorted out. Because I'm not sure -- forget about the investment community, I'm not even sure that some companies even understand what is the rules of engagement when it comes to competition, especially in the United States. Rajiv, do you have anything you want to add?
Rajiv Malik
executiveYes. Jason, too early to pass a judgment on how the U.S. market is evolving. And not every market is same, not every product is same. Oncology is a different pathway -- different channel, diabetes is a different channel and so is other products like Humira. So it's a -- and the payer and provider dynamics, given what Robert just mentioned about the structural changes, they continue to evolve. They are evolving as we even today talk. And we are in the perhaps second, third year of seeing this year biosimilar space unfolding in the U.S.A. And 2020 has been a little bit impacted by COVID. For example, take pegfilgrastim, a great example. It has been -- there has been no further conversion to biosimilars ever since the year started. And in January, the market was 28% to the biosimilar. In September, it's 28%. So it's not a war, it's Onpro has been taking up some of the share. So it's been impacted to some extent by COVID. But I tell you, getting the fundamentals right and not looking at it as a short-term play, focusing on the right -- the size, the cost of goods, as Robert said, and then continue to work with the policymakers from access point of view, which Robert mentioned, are the key things will be focusing on every market, taking some of these basic attributes and fundamentals and sharpening our fences around this business.
Robert Coury
executiveAnd lastly, Jason, to this point, that -- what we just described does affect how we think about capital allocation and where we're going to put our future dollars. One of the things on the business transformation, you should know that we are not emphasizing on the commodity-type products as we have in our years past. We are absolutely moving up the value chain. And I think from a modeling perspective, what I would advise in terms of investors in their models, I think the biggest changes is because we're looking at the higher value chain products. We're no longer -- from a pure analog perspective, I don't think any longer, and especially even with our insulin, we're not expecting anymore the big robust bolus when you launch a product from a pure analog perspective. I think it's going to be slower uptake. But as Rajiv mentioned, these are very long-tailed products. And I think even in our industry, I think you're going to see the investment community begin to really look at portfolios and maybe even from a valuation perspective, if they truly can get comfortable with the long-tailed nature of someone's portfolio that a discounted -- a DCF valuation, I think, is something that's going to slowly work its way into our sector. Because that's really, I think, the best way to value these sustainable diverse portfolios more so than even how we used to get valued when we used to launch products in the past.
Jason Gerberry
analystGot it. Great. One question I do have to ask just as it pertains to risk factors. So we've seen a tremendous amount of activity with the Department of Justice, either settlements or criminal indictments, in this ongoing generic price-fixing probe. My expectation -- my assumption would be that the criminal statute of limitations was coming to an end, end of 2020, early 2021. Maybe that's leading to this flurry of activity. But in my discussions with investors, this does come up as one of the potential overhangs on valuation. So any commentary you can provide as it pertains to this? I know a number of companies have been trying to manage this through these deferred prosecution agreements, which may have benefit as it pertains to the parallel civil proceeding. So I realize it's a sensitive topic and not a lot probably you can say. But I figured I would throw it out there.
Robert Coury
executiveWell, Jason, honestly, I don't mind at all. And I certainly understand why you're asking. And I don't mind to continue to educate you as much as I possibly can. Obviously, it's sensitive because you don't get in a way when you have the government doing an investigation. You better believe that from day 1, and certainly I think our name came up very early on 4, 5 years ago, we take this very, very seriously. We take our corporate social responsibility very, very seriously. And now with the rise of the ESG type of investors that are -- I think this has become -- this is certainly embedded in our thinking. So let me just be clear, where you can help, I think, investors is really if you think about all the activity that you've seen in the last year, 2 years, I mean, you no longer hear the name Mylan. 4, 5 years ago, we put out a statement from the Board of Directors that I've updated and put out and kept repeating. We've never changed the statement. Our position has been absolutely clear about where we stand on this subject matter. There's a lot of activity that has been going on. And I think you see the name of the companies that are at the forefront of a lot of this activity. So we don't want to jump out in front, but we've been fairly consistent, at least from a Mylan perspective. It's a horrible thing in terms of what the whole industry is going through. But I tried to convey many, many, many times, and I have never wavered. From a Mylan perspective, we are beyond comfortable about what we put out there publicly. And we haven't seen any changes. We haven't seen any additional things that, obviously, 4, 5 years ago, when the stuff first came out, we -- I mean we were -- we launched intense internal investigations to try to find any of this type of activity that has been alleged and we just don't see it. We just don't see it. We haven't seen it. And I can't speak for any other companies, but I think you can help investors when you sort it out yourself. You just haven't seen Mylan in any of these type of activity that you're referring to that have -- and that investors are concerned about. But I don't want to -- I don't play it lightly and I certainly don't want to get in the crosshairs. But I do think practically, what I'm trying to convey to you and what you guys are reading and seeing, I think my words are supported by what you're reading and seeing.
Jason Gerberry
analystGreat. Look, I appreciate your color and the commentary and for getting the team on the phone today to talk through the story. You have an exciting merger close here in the fourth quarter, and looking forward to the updates as we go into early next year. So -- and we're up against our time. So I want to thank you all and all the listeners on the call for being here today.
Robert Coury
executiveThank you, Jason. Thank you very much. And thank you to all your listeners. Thank you.
Jason Gerberry
analystAll right. Thank you. And with that, operator, we can conclude the call.
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