Viva Energy Group Limited (VEA) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
May 21, 2024
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Robert Hill
executiveGood afternoon, and welcome to Viva Energy's 2024 Annual General Meeting. I'm Robert Hill, and I'm honored to serve as the Chairman of Viva Energy. It's now just after 2:00 p.m. Australian Central Standard Time. We have a quorum present, and I declare this Annual General Meeting of Viva Energy Group Limited open. We're holding our Annual General Meeting today as a hybrid meeting, which means we have people joining us here in person at the Intercontinental in Adelaide as well as online, welcome all of you. I'd like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia and their connection to land, sea and community. Here in Adelaide, we're on the traditional lands of the Kaurna Nation of peoples. We pay our respect to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples present today. Before we begin the formal business, I will hand over to our company Secretary, Julia Kagan, to run through some procedural matters.
Julia Kagan
executiveThank you, Chairman, and welcome to everyone joining us today. There are no safety drills planned for today. So if you do hear emergency alarm, please observe the staff and fire wardens will provide further instructions. Voting on all items of business today will be carried out by way of a poll. Shareholders had the option of casting their vote before the meeting or appointing a proxy to do so on their behalf. If you haven't done so, you can vote at today's meeting both in person and online. You can do so at any time during the meeting starting from now, as the polls are now open for voting. If you're attending the meeting in person, you will have received an attendance card when you registered. Those who hold a yellow voting card can cast your vote by filling out your card. Those holding a red or a blue card are not entitled to vote at this meeting. If you do have any questions, please see a Link Market Services team member at the registration desk. For those shareholders joining us online, you can cast your vote by following the instructions set out on the screen in front of you. The voting will close shortly after the end of the meeting today. Just a few words on how to ask questions at this meeting, those attending the meeting in person and who hold a yellow or a blue card, you are entitled to speak and ask questions at this meeting. Visitors who hold a red card are not entitled to ask questions at this meeting. . If anyone with a yellow or blue card wishes to speak, please make your way to the microphone. When the Chairman calls for questions and identify yourself before asking the question. [Operator Instructions] You do not need to wait until we get to the formal items of business to submit your questions. I'll just remind you that there may be a slight delay in transmission. So we do encourage you to start submitting your questions now, and we will address these a little later today. [Operator Instructions] When we get to questions, the Chairman will consider questions from the floor first, then questions submitted online and then questions by phone. I will now hand back to the Chairman.
Robert Hill
executiveThank you, Julia. Today, I'm joined on stage by my fellow directors to my left, Sarah Ryan, an Independent Non-Executive Director and Chair of our Audit and Risk Committee; Arnoud De Meyer, Independent Non-Executive Director and Chair of the Strategy and Investment Committee; and Mike Muller, Non-Executive Director. To my right, Scott Wyatt, Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director; Nicola Wakefield Evans, an Independent Non-Executive Director and Chair of our Sustainability Committee; Dat Duong, a Non-Executive Director, couldn't be with us in person today, and he joined us by telephone. Carolyn Pedic, our Chief Financial Officer; Lachlan Pfeiffer, our Chief Strategy Officer; Jevan Bouzo, our CEO, Convenience and Mobility; and Julia Kagan, who heard from, our Company Secretary, with us on stage today. We will also have joining us -- we also have joining us here in person today, Trevor Johnston representing our auditor PricewaterhouseCoopers, sitting in the front row. Trevor will be available to answer questions on the auditor's report later in the meeting. Before we go through the formal business, Scott and I will address the meeting on our performance and some of the highlights over the last year. It is significant that we're holding our Annual General Meeting here in Adelaide today. It's a first, but earlier this year, we completed the acquisition of the On the Run group. The Shahin family built On the Run to become a highly successful business and the largest nongovernment employer in South Australia. We are excited to have the opportunity to take this industry-leading convenience offer to our national network. It will help us grow and future-proof the convenience and mobility sector of our business. I wanted to specifically refer to our Energy & Infrastructure business, which remains critically important to the overall success of Viva Energy. The Geelong Refinery supplies more than half of Victoria's fuel requirements, regularly supplies Tasmania, and with the acquisition of On the Run, we'll also supply South Australia. It's an illustration of the contribution we make in supporting energy security in Australia, an aspect of our business, which in turbulent times is especially important. Conflict in Europe and the Middle East continues to disrupt energy markets and underscores the importance of maintaining local manufacturing capability and a sensible balance of self-sufficiency. On the subject of energy security, it's been heartening to see the Commonwealth Government recognize the important role of natural gas in sustaining manufacturing businesses like ours and supporting baseload electricity supply, as we transition to renewables. We remain concerned about the outlook for gas supply in Victoria and the impact that this will have on prices and outright supply to consumers and businesses. We believe that our LNG import terminal project within our Geelong Energy Hub can contribute a flexible and pragmatic option towards solving the structural gas shortfall. We plan to be in a position to make a final investment decision in 2025 with an anticipated delivery date before winter 2028, should the Victorian government approve the project this year, and we secure a sufficient commercial offtake arrangement. Beyond traditional hydrocarbon refinery, we continue to explore opportunities to reduce the carbon content of fuels we produce and offer our customers. Construction of our hydrogen production and refueling facility in Geelong is underway, and we'll see green hydrogen as a longer-term viable option for the heavy transport industry. We also believe that low carbon liquid fuels such as sustainable aviation fuel and renewable diesel will be important for the hard-to-abate sectors such as aviation, mining and road transport. We welcome the initiatives announced by the government at last week's federal budget to unlock local production of low-carbon liquid fuels. Exploring incentives to support production and demand, the development of a much-needed certification scheme and funding as part of the future made in Australia Innovation Fund recognizes the important role that low carbon fuels play in our energy transition. With policy settings from the government, which bring Australia into line with standards overseas, these fuels can be made at Geelong and distributed through our existing infrastructure. They will greatly enhance the long-term value of our assets, while at the same time, helping our customers reduce their carbon emissions. In our Commercial and Industrial business, we are seeing year-on-year growth. Commercial and industrial fuel sales grew by 12.6% in 2023. And we have secured a number of important strategic accounts, which will deliver further growth in the years ahead. I'm particularly proud that the Australian Defense Force has entrusted us to supply all of its fuel needs. It says a lot about the quality of our people, our capability and our reputation. Viva Energy is well positioned as the federal government invest more in defense capacity and fuel resilience in the years ahead. On the company performance as a whole, the group delivered another strong EBITDA of $713 million during the year 2023, with strong year-on-year growth across our non-refining business. This represents our second-best earnings result as a listed company following the record year in 2022, and illustrates the importance of the strategic agenda we are pursuing. Underlying cash generation was strong, and the Board determined to pay dividends of $0.156 per share. We aim to continue growing our business, diversifying our income, making an important contribution to energy security and supporting the broader energy transition in the years ahead. On behalf of the Board, I'd like to thank Scott and his leadership team, the extended executive team and all our team members who have worked incredibly hard during a transformative year for the company. And again, thank our shareholders for their continued support. I'll now ask Scott to take us through his presentation.
Scott Wyatt
executiveThank you, Robert, and welcome all -- to all our shareholders and guests with us today. Last year was indeed a busy year for the company. The extended major maintenance activity at Geelong Refinery and the transition of Coles Express business, including taking full control of operations across our retail network required considerable effort across the company. And with that backdrop, I'm really pleased with our safety performance, which remains steady and indeed some good improvements in our process safety performance. Looking forward, I'm conscious of the new risks that we have taken on with the growth in our convenience and mobility business, and particularly the impacts on our team members from robberies and crime that unfortunately do occur from time to time. We have inherited some good processes from Coles and OTR, and will continue to look for ways to improve our safety across our retail network as we upgrade stores and enhance our offer. Across the rest of the traditional business, we continue to invest in improving asset integrity and inspections to reduce the risk of leaks and spills and generally driving a strong safety culture, which remains a source of pride amongst the broader Viva Energy team. As Robert highlighted, 2023 was very much a transformational year for Viva Energy. We delivered a strong financial performance and made significant progress on the strategic agenda, which we shared at the Investor Day in November. Group sales increased 9% to more than 15 billion liters and are now 5% above pre-pandemic levels. Commercial and Industrial sales grew by 12.6%, as aviation demand continued to recover and other commercial segments saw strong demand in what has been a broadly robust domestic environment. In contrast, convenience and mobility sales were relatively weaker with total fuel demand growing by less than 1% due to cost of living pressures and convenient sales impacted by the growth in illicit tobacco. Group earnings were $713 million, which outside of the refining business represented a 16% increase on 2022. In particular, Commercial and Industrial supported the group, as it delivered its third consecutive year of earnings growth, up 33% on 2022. The business continued to benefit from its high-touch customer focus, extensive infrastructure positions and diversification across different industries and specialty products. Our refining operations were impacted by extended major maintenance. But outside of these operational challenges, the general refining environment was constructive with refining margins above long-term averages. Our balance sheet was strong ahead of financing the OTR Group acquisition, ending the period with net debt of $380 million. As we set out in November last year, we are embarking on a multiyear strategy to transform from a fuel retailer that happens to sell convenience, to a convenience retailer that happens to sell energy. We expect this to deliver strong earnings growth over the next 5 years, expectedly doubling the contribution from our traditional retail business. It's an important driver of growth, but also an important response to the energy transition. During the year, we completed the acquisition of Coles Express and more recently completed on the acquisition of OTR. Together, these retail platforms provide a pathway to substantially improving our convenience offering, and directly accessing strong growth in this attractive and fast-growing segment, which is estimated at over $200 billion. The transition has gone smoothly, and we are now focused on early upgrades to Coles Express stores capturing supply chain benefits and reducing overhead costs by bringing together the business under one single operating platform. We expect to be able to provide more detail on our plans at our half year results and once again at the full year once we have direct experience operating stores under the new platform. In conjunction with upgrading the convenience software, we'll also begin installing electric vehicle recharging facilities at our stores in New South Wales. We received funding for 30 fast recharging facilities from the New South Wales government and expect to deploy the first round of charges during the second half of the year. We see electric vehicle recharging as an important convenience category over the long term, which will help drive visits to our stores and in-store sales uplift as customers spend more time with us. As Robert mentioned, supporting our Commercial and Industrial business, work has commenced on the construction of our hydrogen production and refueling facility at Geelong. This initiative is aimed at heavy vehicle users and together with renewable fuels, which Robert touched on, will play an important role in reducing emissions in Commercial and Industrial segments. A number of our customers have already purchased hydrogen vehicles in anticipation of this development, and we look forward to reporting on early progress again at our AGM next year. This project is part of our broader Geelong Energy Hub ambitions which include LNG import and storage facility, strategic storage, lower carbon and renewable fuels production. Work is also underway to upgrade processing capability to reduce sulfur and aromatic content of petrol, which we expect to be commissioned in the third quarter of 2025. It is worth noting that Geelong Refinery is the only manufacturer of bitumen for Australian roads, Avgas for smaller piston engine aircraft, low aromatic petrol to combat petrol sniffing in regional communities, polypropylene plastics and material (sic) [ military ] grade fuels to support Australian defense and its allies. This is a unique competitive advantage with strong integration with our Commercial and Industrial businesses. Overall, I'm pleased with the progress we have made on our strategic agenda over the last year. We have exciting plans for each of our 3 unique businesses and look forward to delivering on these in the year ahead. Looking forward to the rest of this year, let me begin by making a few comments about our first quarter 2024 operating results, which we released to the market last month. The group delivered a strong performance with Geelong Refinery operating at near capacity and sales up almost 8% compared to the same time last year. The Commercial business maintained momentum delivering another strong sales result on the back of healthy demand across most sectors and new business wins. Our retail operations performed well despite adverse weather in some markets, general cost of living pressures affecting fuel demand and lower tobacco sales with continued growth across the other convenience categories. We do see cost of living pressures impacting mobility and general consumer demand, and we recognize that the relatively high cost of fuel contributes to those pressures. Oil prices have recently begun to soften, providing some relief, but we will continue to focus on delivering value to customers through our range of retail offers, which now includes Coles Express, OTR, Liberty Convenience and our network of independent retail partners. Over the long term, we expect our Convenience and Commercial businesses to provide relatively stable and strong earnings, supported by the contribution from the OTR Group acquisition, which was completed in the first quarter. We also expect continued demand strength from our Commercial and Industrial businesses, which remains a very diverse business with demonstrated resilience to sectorial cycles. While regional refining margins have softened recently, they do remain above historical averages, and we are well positioned to maximize production opportunities with no planned major turnarounds this year. In conclusion, we are very excited about the remainder of 2024 and beyond. We have a strong and diverse portfolio, which is well positioned to capture growth opportunities. We are highly focused on executing our strategic objectives which we believe provide considerable growth opportunities over the long term. As I hand back to Robert, I would especially like to thank our people, our customers and partners and, of course, our shareholders for your continued support. Thank you.
Robert Hill
executiveThank you, Scott. As we go through the resolutions today, I will open for questions. Those shareholders with us in Adelaide holding a yellow or blue card, you may make your way to the microphone at the appropriate time. And please identify yourself before asking your question. For our shareholders attending online, I'd encourage you to start submitting your questions now, and we'll address them as we go. I'll now proceed with the formal business of the meeting. The notice of meeting sets out the following matters for consideration by shareholders today. One, to consider the financial statements and reports; two, to adopt the remuneration report; three, to elect Sarah Ryan and myself, as directors of the company for to grant performance rights to Scott Wyatt under the company's long-term incentive plan; and five, to approve the grant of financial assistance by each OTR entity in connection with the acquisition by Viva Energy Retail. During the meeting, we will display the proxy votes and direct votes received in advance of the meeting. Where I, as the Chairman, the meeting have been nominated as a shareholder's proxy, I intend to vote all undirected and available proxies in favor of each resolution. There are also voting restrictions for some resolutions, as outlined in the notice of meeting. I remind you that the polls are now open for voting. The outcome of today's meeting, including the final vote numbers, will be released on the ASX at the conclusion of today's meeting. I turn to the first item of business, consideration of the financial statements and reports. The Corporations Act requires the directors to lay before the Annual General Meeting, the financial report, the directors' report and the auditor's report for the last financial year. There's no formal resolution put to shareholders for this item, but there will be an opportunity to ask questions on the matters contained in the reports. So I now ask, are there any questions from the floor on the financial statements and reports. If there are, please make your way to the microphone. If not, I'll ask our company Secretary, Julia Kagan, to read out any online questions we've received on this item of business.
Julia Kagan
executiveThere are no online questions, Chairman.
Robert Hill
executiveThen I ask the phone operator. Do we have any shareholders, who want to ask a question by phone?
Operator
operatorThere are no phone questions at this time.
Robert Hill
executiveThank you. As there are no further -- no questions, must be a good set of accounts, Scott, I declare the financial statements and reports have been received and considered at the meeting. Item 2 is the remuneration report, which is included within our annual report. The vote on this item is advisory only. However, the Board will consider and take into account the outcome of the vote and feedback from shareholders on the remuneration report. Are there any questions on the remuneration report?
Unknown Attendee
attendeeGood afternoon, Chairman. My name is [ Bob Ritchie ]. I have been appointed by the Shareholders' Association to represent the proxy donors, 21 of them about the same number as shareholders seated on the floor of the room by the look of today. We're voting 0.25 million or a bit over that use. We will be voting in favor of adoption of the remuneration report and in favor of all other resolutions today. But I'd like to make 2 comments. One is that, if all performance goes well, then the remuneration for the Chief Executive associated with the plan from this meeting, and what I believe will be adopted, it provides at the maximum an income that's about 50x the Australian average and about 70x the median Australian income. I'm not complaining about that, but I want to draw attention to the fact that I can see a shift globally against this wide gap in incomes and it may be something the Board should take into account as the years progress. I'm not even talking about this year or next year or the year in which the LTI comes in, but I think it is on the cards. And there's a social responsibility for the care of the company to make sure you're not out of churn. That leads me to the other point that the Shareholders Association hold dear, and that is the 4- or 5-year LTI hurdle or the time for it. You're working on 3 years. You have a plan -- you have intentions to double the retail side of the business across the next 5 years. It would be appropriate as that works its way into a plan for you to think about extending that 3 years to 4. In that regard, I will seek an opportunity to speak with the Chair of Rem after this meeting is over, just to speak briefly.
Robert Hill
executiveWell, thank you for coming, and thank you for your question and your support and that of your association. So I share your concern about income disparity and wealth disparity in our society. And as you know, over the years, the gap has actually been widening. So it is, as you described, a social issue. And the -- something that society as a whole should be conscious of and thinking about how best to respond to it. The government obviously think about it in terms of public policy that will lift the income of the lower sections of our community and also how the higher sections should be effectively taxed. The theory of that is to try and minimize income disparity. From the point of view of a corporation such as ours, what should we do, obviously, we now have, what, some 14,000 staff and we look to see that they are properly remunerated. But in relation to the top level of our company and you mentioned our Chief Executive Officer, we live in a competitive world, and we have to pay our senior executives at a level that is appropriately reflects and respects their contribution and is competitive with their peers. So I sometimes get asked these questions. And if Scott -- I say, Scott has been very loyal to this company, but goes back a long way. And therefore, in some ways, I'm a Chairman that doesn't have the worries of some others, but that would not be a justification to not treat him fairly. I have to respect his position where he is in that level of Australian corporate leadership, and we seek to remunerate him accordingly. We certainly don't seek to overpay him, I say quietly. We don't seek to underpay him either. On the other issue, which is LTI, we're actually with you or some of your colleagues in the state have had these discussions over the years. We do share your sentiment that for a long-term incentive 3 years doesn't seem very long. And when we started -- we're a young company, we started with the 3-year structure. And this year, for the first time, we've actually provided a 5-year mechanism for one of our senior executives, Jevan Bouzo in relation to our retail and convenience business. Why have we done that? Because we've actually -- Jevan's come in to run that business, can be a huge business, bringing in the Coles Express business, the On the Run business and soon to be the Liberty Convenience business. And we've set a 5-year target for him in terms of financial return to the company. So why not have a long-term incentive, that's linked into that 5 years, which is exactly what we have done. So what I say to you is that I hear what you say, and we've actually started on the road that you have outlined for us. So I hope that you think that that's a step in the right direction. Have we got any other questions from within the room?
Unknown Attendee
attendeeMr. Chairman, [ Kevin Long ], a shareholder. Can I digress and just ask a question about the accounts. So I sort of tossed over a little bit too quickly, and I...
Robert Hill
executiveYou can certainly ask a question about the accounts. The issue is whether -- would you mind if a bit later in the meeting when I call for overall questions, we do it then. So we just stick to the rem at the moment. Always make time for all questions. I'm very pleased so many shareholders have turned out in Adelaide. Let you into a secret, there are more turned out in Adelaide than turned out in Melbourne. No other questions from the floor on the remuneration report. Julia, online?
Julia Kagan
executiveNothing Chairman.
Robert Hill
executiveOperator, on the phone?
Operator
operatorThere are no phone questions at this time.
Robert Hill
executiveSo the question is the remuneration report for the year ended 31st of December 2023 be adopted. Please record your vote, if you've not already done so for shareholders attending this meeting in person, please now vote for, against or abstain. Next to resolution 2 on the yellow paper voting card for shareholders attending the meeting online, please select for, against or abstain next to resolution 2 on the online voting card. The next 2 -- I thank you. I'm told to pause. I paused. [Voting]
Robert Hill
executiveThe next 2 items relate to the reelection of directors. As I'm standing for reelection at this meeting, I will hand the chair of the meeting to Arnoud De Meyer for this item of business. Thank you. Arnoud?
Arnoud De Meyer
executiveGood afternoon to all of you, and we look now first at Item 3A. This item relates to the reelection of Sarah Ryan as a Director, Sarah retires at this meeting in accordance with the company's constitution and being eligible, offers herself up for reelection. The Board has considered Sarah's performance and contribution and supports Sarah's reelection. Details of Sarah's qualification, career and experience are set out in the notice of this meeting and in the annual report. Sarah is with us here in Adelaide today, and I will ask Sarah to speak to you in support of her reelection. Sarah?
Sarah Ryan
executiveThank you. So I was delighted when I was invited to join the Board of Viva Energy back in 2018, as we prepared to go public, and I'm very happy to be here with you today. So I'm a member of the Board's Sustainability Committee, and I Chair of our Audit and Risk Board Committee. My background is mostly from the energy industry with over 30 years' experience worldwide, mostly around oilfield operations, engineering and developing and commercializing research and innovation in energy-related technology. I also have substantial experience as a COO and in executive management, particularly key aspects such as strategy, people management, risk management and delivery of business priorities. I've also spent 10 years in investment management and private equity mostly based in the United States, starting as an analyst and an investment director and portfolio manager, who are mostly focused on global energy and natural resources. Many of the issues I've had to deal with over that time are very relevant to Viva's business today. For example, high-risk operations, the emphasis on safety and ensuring that the company cannot only survive but thrive in our changing world, as the world decarbonizes its energy and transport systems. I'm currently a Nonexecutive Director on the Board of 3 other ASX-listed companies, being Transurban, Aurizon and Calix. I'm a former Director of Woodside Energy and OZ Minerals in Australia and Aker Solutions based out of Norway. For most of these companies, I am or was a member of their Audit Risk and Sustainability Board Committees. On the energy technology side, I'm currently on the Board of the Future Battery Industries Cooperative Research Center, where I Chair the Audit and Risk Committee. And I'm on the Advisory Board of the Australian Research Council Center of Excellence in Green Electrochemical Transformation of CO2. I'm also a fellow of the Australian Academy of Technology and Engineering, where I Chair the energy form. I believe my background and experience leave me well placed to contribute to the company's future, and I'll be delighted to be reelected as a director by shareholders today. Thank you.
Arnoud De Meyer
executiveThank you, Sarah. Let's now turn to the questions. Are there any questions on the floor on this item of the business?
Unknown Attendee
attendeeActing Chairman, this is my second and last time on the microphone. And I rise to speak in support of the resolution. I do not have a question. But as we're meeting in Adelaide and Sarah Ryan was a closing member -- was a member of the Board of OZ Minerals as it closed, my colleagues and I, who were dealing with that company, held that Board in a very high regard. And from our perspective, anyone who is invited to join that Board gets an extra boost in terms of the credentials. Thank you.
Arnoud De Meyer
executiveThank you very much. Congratulations, Sarah. Any other questions from the floor? I don't see any. Julia, have we received any online questions on this item of business today?
Julia Kagan
executiveNo, we haven't.
Arnoud De Meyer
executiveThank you, Julia. I will now go to the phone questions. Operator, do we have any shareholders, who wish to ask a question by phone?
Operator
operatorThere are no phone questions at this time.
Arnoud De Meyer
executiveThank you. A summary of the direct and proxy votes received in advance of the meeting in relation to this item appears on the screen now. And I formally put the motion that Sarah Ryan be reelected as a Director of the company. Please record your vote now if you haven't already done so. [Voting]
Arnoud De Meyer
executiveThank you. So we can now go to Item 3B. Robert retires at this meeting in accordance with the company's constitution and being eligible, offers himself for reelection. The Board has considered Robert's performance and contribution and supports Robert's reelection. Details of Robert's qualifications, career and experience are set out in the notice of the meeting and in the annual report. And I will ask Robert to say a few words about his reelection. Robert, over to you.
Robert Hill
executiveThank you, Arnoud. Viva is a young company. This year, we marked the tenth anniversary since Vitol purchased downstream assets of Shell and set up a new business. I joined the Viva Board as the only Australian Independent Director, recognizing the importance of Shell's infrastructure and capabilities to Australia's security economy and broader public life. But I also recognize that with an energy transition starting to gather pace, the challenges in the future would be many. Four years later, we became an Australian publicly listed company, and I was proud to be its first chair. Public listing brought new investors, and I thank our investors for the confidence they've shown to the Board and Executive. Luckily for me, I've led a committed and cohesive Board and our executive group has been first class. We've sought to build a culture of pride and respect within the company, which has been reciprocated by a great team of employees. As a result, the company is strong with growing resilience. We are meeting our responsibilities in relation to the nation's energy security. We're building new low-carbon products and services to support an energy transition, which we believe in and our customers expect, and we've been able to deliver good financial returns to our investors. It's hard to recognize the Viva of today from that of 10 years ago. At that time, we were a wholesaler of fuel to our service stations. Now we're well on the way to owning and operating Australia's largest, and we would argue best retail convenience and fuel business. In the Commercial and Industrial sector, we didn't have an aviation business or a cruise ship business of any consequence. And we certainly didn't offer carbon solutions to our customers. Now our commercial and industrial business is strong and diverse and showing, as I said earlier, year-on-year growth. And the Geelong oil refinery is now underpinned by government support and is the centerpiece of a growing energy hub. The 330 million-liter diesel tanks as part of Australia's national security -- fuel security program will become operational within -- in months. The new ultra-low sulfur gasoline unit and other plant upgrades for low aromatics gasoline are being constructed, which will bring the refinery up to world's best practice in terms of fuel quality. The first publicly accessible hydrogen service station to supply heavy transport is planned to be filling vehicles this year and open to the public next year. We will be offering the capacity to process hard to recycle waste plastics through our residue catalytic cracking unit and polypropylene plant. Most importantly, we now manufacture F-44 fast jet fuel for the Royal Australian Air Force. So to this background, I again offer myself for election as a director. In doing so and whilst recognizing that stability and continuity of our small board has been important, I know that change must come with time. I see it as part of my responsibility to ensure that refreshment of leadership of the Board occurs over the next few years and in a way which adds value to the company. Thank you.
Arnoud De Meyer
executiveThank you, Robert. Turning now to the questions. Are there any questions from the floor on this item of the business? I don't see any questions from the floor. Julia, have we received any online questions on this item of the business today?
Julia Kagan
executiveThere are no questions.
Arnoud De Meyer
executiveThank you, Julia. I will now go to the phone questions. Operator, do we have any shareholders, who wish to ask a question by phone?
Operator
operatorThere are no phone questions at this time.
Arnoud De Meyer
executiveThank you very much. A summary of the direct and proxy votes received in advance of the meeting in relation to this item appears on the screen now. Therefore, I formally put the motion that Robert Hill be reelected as a Director of the company. Please record your vote now, if you haven't already done so. The voting lines will close shortly after the next item of business. And I will now hand the chair back to Robert. [Voting]
Robert Hill
executiveThank you, Professor. The next item of business is item 4, granted performance rights to Scott Wyatt, proposed to issue 798,270 performance rights under the 2024 long-term incentive plan to Scott Wyatt, our Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director. Each performance rights will entitle Scott to acquire one ordinary share in the company for no consideration at the end of the performance period, subject to satisfaction of the performance conditions. The performance period is 3 years and will run from the 1st of January 2024 to the 31st of December 2026. The notice of meeting sets out all the relevant details in relation to the performance rights, including the performance conditions. Do I have any questions from the floor on this item of business? If not, Julia, do we have any questions online?
Julia Kagan
executiveNo, we don't Chairman.
Robert Hill
executiveAnd phone operator, do we have any questions by phone?
Operator
operatorThere are no phone questions at this time.
Robert Hill
executiveThank you. Summary of the direct and proxy votes received in advance of the meeting in relation to this item appears on the screen now. As there are no further questions, I formally put the motion for Item 4, that 798,270 performance rights be granted to Scott Wyatt under the company's long-term incentive plan. Please record your vote if you haven't already done so. [Voting]
Robert Hill
executiveItem 5. The next item of business, item 5, financial assistance. The Corporations Act requires, in certain circumstances, shareholders' approval of a company providing financial assistance to acquire shares in itself. Under the Corporations Act, if immediately after the acquisition, the company providing the financial assistance as an Australian listed holding company, the financial assistance must be approved by a special resolution of the shareholders of that holding company. In order to help fund the OTR Group acquisition, Viva Energy Retail may drawdowns under certain of its existing and new syndicated debt facilities. The company and the Viva entities are guarantors under those facilities and it is a condition required by the company's finances that certain OTR entities acquired must also exceed as guarantors to these facilities. The acquisition by the OTR entities, as guarantors to these facilities, will have the effect of each OTR entity financially assisting the acquisition of its own chairs for the purposes of the Corporation Act, which gives rise to the requirement to put forward this resolution as a special resolution. The notice of motion again sets out all the relevant details in relation to the financial assistance. And I turn to questions. I say in advance that Carolyn's volunteered to answer any questions. No questions from the floor. Are there any questions online, Julia?
Julia Kagan
executiveNo questions.
Robert Hill
executiveAny questions from the -- by telephone?
Operator
operatorThere are no phone questions at this time.
Robert Hill
executiveOkay. Thank you. A summary of the direct and proxy votes received in advance of the meeting in relation to this item appears on the screen now. As there are no further questions, I formally put the motion for Item 5 to grant the financial assistance by each OTR target entity be approved. Please record your vote now, if you haven't already done so. [Voting]
Robert Hill
executiveThat covers all of the business before the Annual General Meeting. I said that before we finish up, I would check with attending shareholders and with Julia online and telephone operator to see if there are any further questions. So I'm confidently expecting one question -- at least one question from the floor. It's on the account, so you still might get a chance...
Unknown Attendee
attendeeCan I make that 2 questions Mr. Chairman, can't get out this so lightly. First question is John Duff transport. Could you give me some background why you purchased this given that you had $2 million in assets and $15 million in goodwill. Was it a terrific buy for you to sort of to pay that much for goodwill?
Scott Wyatt
executiveYes. I'll go first, maybe, Carolyn, you can talk about the goodwill part. But we have a business within Viva Energy Group, which we built up over the last 5 or 6 years called Liberty Rural. It's a business that services small -- services customers and regional communities, mostly focused on agricultural clients, but also small businesses in rural Australia as well. . It's a business that we sort of built up from ground up with a joint venture partner originally, had a 50% stake in that company. We took 100% of it a few years ago. So it's now a fully independent business within the Viva Energy Group. It's taken us right across the country now. We have a presence in most regional communities around the country, mostly trading under Liberty Rural. But over time, we've added to that business with the acquisition of companies like John Duff group, which you referred to, to continue to build our presence in those regional markets. We see -- it's a very exciting part of our business. Obviously, regional Australia is a big country. There's a lot of customers and communities that rely on us to supply fuels and lubricants to service their business. And obviously, agriculture, particularly, is a big segment in Australia. So it's not a [ good ] business, but it's a business that we're very proud to be involved in and it's quite a material part of the commercial and industrial business today. So that's the background to the acquisition of that particular business. So there's been others that we've acquired as well, and we continue to look for opportunities to add to that and continue to expand our business in those regional areas. In terms of the goodwill question?
Carolyn Pedic
executiveYes, absolutely. I mean it's fairly, I guess, common and normal to acquire a business, as Scott described in terms of the paying a multiple of earnings for that business. So you've got the potential to bring those earnings into your business going forward. So it's quite customary to have the a certain payment and then the actual value of the net assets that you've acquired is lower than that payment. So this is quite usual to have goodwill.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeUsually, that amount is about 10% of the profit that it makes so are you saying to me that it's more than 10x or is it less than 10x?
Carolyn Pedic
executiveI mean, certainly, in terms of the multiple we paid nothing like that. But I mean the percentage of goodwill will depend on the actual underlying assets of the business that you've acquired.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. My second question is, I get a lot of conflicting noise about hydrogen. I see it's too expensive to produce. I see that Fortescue is being subsidized by the government. What -- apart from electrolysis, I know that, that process occurs with hydrogen production, what sort of method you're going to go down to produce hydrogen and are you being subsidized by the government?
Robert Hill
executiveYes. So we're starting cautiously. I said that our hydrogen service station -- new energy service station will be the first open to public use in Australia, which we're building at Geelong. And we've purchased our own electrolyzer, which we now have in country in storage. And so we will be producing the hydrogen. We'll use green energy and we'll produce green hydrogen as a result through our own process.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeCan you tell me what the green energy is?
Robert Hill
executiveWell, in this instance, the energy will be -- the energy source will be a renewable energy source.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeCan you give me an example?
Robert Hill
executiveYes, it could be from wind. It could be from solar.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeSo that's green energy, okay.
Robert Hill
executiveYes, renewable energy. So we will make it on site. And it's not a large electrolyzer, but interestingly, I think right at the moment, it's the largest in country. So really -- this is just the start of a new world in Australia when you -- a lot of grand stories out there, but we're just [indiscernible] in outcomes just starting to scratch the surface. And we're scratching it in that area in which we think we might be able to help. There is a logic in our minds that says that heavy transport is well suited to a hydrogen fuel as opposed to other options. As we go through the transition, what's the best way to fuel a heavy transport fleet, you might say, well, big battery -- very, very big batteries. There are those who argue that it won't work efficiently with large heavy, heavy transport. You might say to me with the renewable diesel, well then, we can have a debate about the renewable diesel. At the moment, it's not produced in Australia and the cost of it if we -- and we are importing some for clients who actually want to go down that path. But the cost is roughly 2x to 3x the size, the price of hydrocarbon-based diesel. So it's a big price increase. All that transport fleet might move to hydrogen, which is quite logical in some ways because they feel it's pretty close to a traditional service station. They get sufficient range. And so we are working in conjunction with a number of transport entities, a waste company, bus company, one that's not transport , Barwon Water in Geelong that some of their vehicles are being converted to hydrogen because there's not much point in having a service station and no vehicle. So again, this is hand in glove and the Australian government is contributing to our cost. We know that it's -- making a profit on this is a way of. We are doing this as a part of our contribution towards the long-term low-carbon future of Australia within our areas of responsibility, which it's not unreasonable to say to the public if you want to believe in that, then share with us in the cost of this first facility. We've been approached by other states to look at developing similar facilities. We're right at the moment at this early stage, we're finding hard to make the figures justify our contribution to those additional service stations. But ultimately, hopefully, they will come. So that's our piece of the pie now. There are other pieces that people talk about with massive electrolyzers and massive solar farms to fuel them and so forth, but that's not our bid. Thanks for asking the questions. So no further questions on the floor. No further questions online. No further questions on the phone. It's for me to tell you that voting will close shortly after the conclusion of this meeting for those shareholders online, a 5-minute countdown time will appear at the top of your screen advising the remaining voting time. If you've not already cast your vote, can you please do so now. For shareholders at the meeting in Adelaide, please complete your paper voting forms and place them in the ballot voting boxes with Link staff who were both roaming the room and also located at the exit doors so you can't get through the door. Voting results will be released to the ASX, as I said earlier, and will be displayed on the company's website after the conclusion of this meeting. Thank you again for participating today in this hybrid format meeting. It's been great to hold it here in Adelaide, South Australia, the headquarters of our retail convenience -- our national retail convenience business. I said to someone the other day, our global business, which at the moment is national. Thank you, as I said, for those who've come along in person here today. I will close the meeting and invite those who are in person to stay for a cup of tea or coffee and have a chat with our Board members and members of the senior executive. And with that, I now declare the Annual General Meeting closed. Thank you.
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