Volati AB (publ) (VOLO) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
July 14, 2025
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorGood morning, everyone, and welcome to today's presentation with Volati. With us presenting today, we have the CEO, Andreas Stenbäck, and CFO, Martin Aronsson presenting today. [Operator Instructions] And with that said, please go ahead with your presentation.
Andreas Stenback
executiveThank you. And also thank you, everyone, for listening in today. Let's get into the presentation. We'll start with -- here we are. So yes, so let's start with the presentation. So looking at this slide, sales increased by 6% in the quarter to SEK 2.3 billion. It's -- we do see a trend shift, a slight trend shift in the quarter with organic sales growth of minus 1%. And the graph on the right, we've shown you in the last couple of quarters, we did see trend shift late last year with organic growth. However, we've had a slight setback with regards to that in this quarter. It's driven by a slowdown in the organic growth in Salix, but we do still show positive numbers, even though low in Salix. So the main reason for the negative number is some of the platforms within the business area industry. However, I want to point out that we do see a totally other market environment now compared to a year ago. If you look at this slide, we have had minus 15% and minus 11% in Q1 and Q2 2024. So yes, it was a slight slowdown in the first quarter this year -- second quarter this year, but still the marketing market is significantly better and improved. EBITDA came in with the last year. And 2 of the business areas, Salix and Ettiketto, showing strong growth, 20%, around 20% EBITDA growth. While the reason for a [ just ] meeting last year is the industry. And it's 2 platforms within the industry that are lagging, it's Corroventa and it's simply tough comparables for them. They had a really good last year. While we still see a challenging market in Tornum and they also meeting somewhat tougher comparables compared to last year in the second quarter 2024 was decently good for them. If you take a step back or if we take a step back, I think the first half of the year of 2025 is still okay. We had a sales increase of 10%. We do see an organic growth in the first half of the year and EBITDA growth is 13%, so close to our financial target. Want to talk a bit about the structural measures that we've done and that we're now really seeing effect of what we've done in the last couple of years. And we can see that in platforms such as Salix, S:t Eriks and Communication where we have stronger margins even when we see low or negative organic growth. And for me, that's a strength -- proof of strength that we really also now seeing the numbers that we've had good actions in the platforms. We've had some additional structural improvements in the quarter, and we have had because of that negative extraordinary costs of roughly SEK 7 million. And what does this mean? This means that we see a good opportunity for further margin improvements and especially once we see the organic growth coming back, and I think that will be accelerated. Also, when we came into the last year's more challenging market environment, we had a very -- had a low net debt to EBITDA. I think we are also even slightly below our financial target with regards to that. And that has enabled us to continue making acquisitions. And that has, of course, led to increased debt levels. In the last quarter, Salix did the acquisition of Hans Eggestrand, but if we look into the last 12 months, we've now acquired a little more than SEK 750 million of annual sales. That puts us in a net debt-to-EBITDA position of 3.0. So that's within our target, and it's very much expected because of the cash flow profiles that we have over the year and the acquisition that we did in Q2. So -- and also during the second half of the year, that's where we have our strong cash flow. Historically, we've showed that every year. So that provides a solid basis for continue doing acquisitions. That's going to give us acquisition room also for the rest of the year. And if we find the need to deleverage, we also have the possibility to do that. So basically, what this means with the strong margins that we see and the structural measures that we've taken and the accelerated organic growth that we expect once the market returns, that means we will also gradually be able to reduce the net debt going forward and still make a very good acquisition pace. So looking a bit into the numbers. Net sales, up 6%, as I already said, EBITDA in line with last year, and that then include some EU costs linked to structural measures. Operating cash flow, strong in the quarter, 27% up compared to the same quarter last year, and net debt at 3.0 as I already mentioned. Taking a step back and looking at the annualized numbers, we're now at SEK 8.2 billion on net sales and SEK 700 billion (sic) [ SEK 700 million ] EBITDA and as said, that implies a 10% net sales growth in the first half of the year and a 13% EBITDA growth in the first half of the year. Also looking at the long-term profile, we're still ahead of our financial goals. So that basically means that we've doubled the last 5 years. However, as everyone can see on this slide, the gross pace went down from 2021 going forward, and that has created a growth gap. Meaning that we do see that we will close that growth gap once the market returns. With that, I'll leave the word to Martin.
Martin Aronsson
executiveThank you, Andreas. So let's look at our performance in relation to our 3 financial targets, and let's start with the EBITDA growth per ordinary share during the last 12 months, which is now at 6%, which is an improvement from the last quarter, so quarter 1. However, this is still below our financial target, but it's worth noting that our target is over business cycles and our 5-year average growth -- EBITDA growth per ordinary share is 15%. So moving over to our second financial target, our return on adjusted equity, which came in at roughly 17% versus our financial target of 20%. So it's below our financial targets, but it's driven by a lower EBITDA growth. However, during the past 5 years, we have delivered, on average, 33% return on adjusted equity. And our last financial target is our capital structure, where our net debt-to-EBITDA ratio came in at 3.0, which is within our -- within the range of our financial target ratio of between 2 and 3x. And we now also put half year 1 behind us, which is seasonally the lowest regarding cash flow for Volati and we now have quarter 3 and quarter 4 in front of us, where Volati normally generate a strong cash flow. And this, as Andreas mentioned, gives us the potential to do further acquisitions and also a potential to deleverage if the need be. So let's also talk a bit about our business areas, and let's start with the Salix Group. And Salix Group saw a total net sales growth of roughly 10%, which mainly came through acquisitions but also through organic growth. EBITDA increased with 20% compared to last year, and the margin increased with roughly 1 percentage point in the quarter. And this is really showcasing the great work that Salix Group has done with working with cost control and synergies and coordination benefits. And we also saw some market improvement in the quarter, however, at a slower pace compared to previous quarter, showing that improvement rarely is linear. But we're confident that Salix Group is well positioned to capture the growth once the market returns. We completed the acquisition of Hans Eggestrand in the quarter, and we also see significant potential to grow further through acquisitions in the business area of Salix Group. So let's move over to Ettiketto Group, who continues to deliver another strong quarter. Sales increased with 36% in the quarter, mainly through the effects of the acquisition of Clever, but also through the continued trend of very strong organic growth. EBITDA in nominal terms increased with 19%, which is mainly driven by organic improvement. But that said, the margin declined in the quarter with 2 percentage points, but this is as expected as the newly acquired Clever Etiketten completed with roughly 20%, 25% of the total Ettiketto group sales, but at a low margin. And integration of Clever is progressing well and the work with extracting synergies and operational improvements have started. And the ambition long term is to lift the margins to the same level as the rest of Ettiketto Group. And also with Clever as a new home market platform to grow from in Central Europe, where we see a significant potential to continue acquiring labeling companies in several geographies. And lastly, business area industry, who concludes a tough quarter. Revenue declined with 7% in the quarter, and the EBITDA margin declined with 1 percentage point, where the development is mainly explained by Tornum Group and Corroventa. And as previous quarters, Tornum Group is still facing a historically weak market, but it's meeting softer comparables in the second half of 2025. And our platform, Corroventa, did not see any significant effect from floodings in the quarter and was also facing strong comparables from last year's second quarter. S:t Eriks faces a similar market situation as previous quarters with the weak demand in the construction segment, while the demand in the infrastructure segment is stable. And lastly, Communications, we performed well in the quarter, increasing the EBITDA compared to last year. And that said, this is despite the lower deliveries to the U.S. market. With that, I leave the word to you, Andreas.
Andreas Stenback
executiveOkay. And then we'll get into acquisitions. This slide you've seen before, but -- so since 2020, we've now down 27 acquisitions, adding SEK 4.2 billion of annual sales to Volati. And the last 12 months, we've done 2 add-on acquisitions to Salix Group and 1 add-on acquisition to Ettiketto Group. Looking at how we've been pacing our acquisitions the last 5 years or 4.5 years, one can see that we had a drop in 2023, but have since been fairly stable at roughly SEK 700 million of annual sales that we've added. And then looking into the last acquisition that we did and Salix Group to start with Hans Eggestrand that we added to Salix Group, we also add-on acquisition we did in Q2. Sales of roughly SEK 45 million. It's complementing Salix Group's consumables trade and agriculture unit very well, and in particular, the consumables trade unit for businesses. And it do broaden the overall offering of the unit, but it's also an example of an acquisition where we have large potential synergies. Not the least in the logistics flows and optimizing that. So this is a very good example of a good add-on acquisition to Salix Group. Looking at the graph to the right, I think you recognize the sales and EBITDA margin from previous, but we also added the number of acquisitions and accumulated acquired sales that we've shown since 2020, Salix Group and what this says to me is that we've been able to maintain the acquisition pace in Salix Group despite that Salix Group have faced quite tough market environment, at least the last 3 years. And of course, this tougher market environment also creates good acquisition opportunities. And we've been able then to take advantage of this. So we've done roughly 1 to 3 acquisitions a year. And over the course of this period, we've added SEK 1.8 billion of annual sales to Salix Group. So I mentioned it previously, but looking at this and seeing how Salix Group have been able to protect and even improve their margins, decline -- despite the tough market environment the last years and not the least the last quarter, and still being able to add acquisition. Once the market returns and we start seeing organic growth, it's going to be a real nice journey to follow. And in order to make acquisitions, you need cash flow and you need a decent net debt-to-EBITDA ratio. So looking at this slide then, the operational cash flow increased with 27% in Q2, which was good, much in line with what we expected. We have a cash conversion in the last 12 months of 85%, which is now, I would say, very much in line with where we want to be. So very much as expected. We had a debt increase in Q2. And as I said, firstly, the cash profile of Q2 is not as strong as -- the operational cash flow profile is not as strong as the second half of the year, but also we have the dividend outflow in Q2, which affects the overall cash position. So -- but again, we expect a strong cash flow in the second half, and that means that we will still get some acquisition room to take care of for the rest of the year. Summarizing this quarterly report, so slightly negative organic sales trend sequentially, but we need to remind ourselves that we've got still significantly better off compared to a year ago. So there is still an underlying positive trend or momentum. Q2 EBITDA in line with last year, but in particularly satisfied with the growth that we see in Salix net of capital, 28% rough EBITDA growth in those 2 business areas. We do see the effects of the long-term structural measures in platforms such as Salix, S:t Eriks and Communication, where we have low or even negative organic growth. We're still strengthening the overall market -- margins. And we've been able to maintain the acquisition pace. The last 12 months has seen roughly SEK 750 million that we've added but that's very much in line with the growth pace through acquisitions that we've had in the last years. And we have a strong foundation to continue doing acquisitions and very much thank you to the cash flow profile of the second half of the year. And we are really waiting for that accelerated organic growth, which we know will come once the market starts to recover. And now this quarter has been somewhat delayed. But once we see that, it's going to be a real fun for us. So with that, I leave for any potential questions.
Operator
operatorAnd yes, let's open up for Q&A here. [Operator Instructions] And we'll give the word first to [ Carl ] from Carnegie.
Unknown Analyst
analystIf we start on Salix here, you mentioned that demand took a step back here after a quite strong uptick we saw here in Q1. Could you elaborate a bit more here if there were any variations across the quarter, i.e., if you would say that it was a similar demand profile throughout the quarter as a whole? Or is it perhaps started or ended on a weaker or a better note?
Andreas Stenback
executiveNo, I think it was -- thank you for the question to start with. So yes, it's -- we've seen a marked slowdown in Q2 compared to Q1. I think when you turn to our other actors on the market, they've seen a similar profile. When it comes to inter-quarterly variations, there are no big variations. So I think it's not worth mentioning anything with regards to that.
Unknown Analyst
analystGot you. And on Tornum, you mentioned they are still facing a very tough market here and that there isn't really any sign of improvement any time soon here. Could you speculate perhaps I mean what you would need to see for that market to start improving? Is it still like a green price issue or an aid issue, i.e., that the subsidies towards farmers are at a too low level currently? Or is it something else that you would like to highlight here that you think is hampering you?
Andreas Stenback
executiveYes. So I think with regards to Tornum, it's somewhat of a perfect storm. So we have subsidies, as you mentioned, that are not coming out in the individual markets as a pace as they should. We have grain prices, which are at the lower level or have come down in levels. We have a general market unsecured on security, much related, I would say, to what's going on with tolls and things like that. So there is somewhat of a -- and still now interest rates are coming down, but there has been some insecurity at least in the beginning of the year with regards to that. So they're somewhat of a perfect storm with regards to Tornum. I know what we've seen in the past is things shift fairly quickly in that market. If one of these or a couple of these factors change in dynamics, our customers gain confidence and there is investment need and what has happened over the last couple of years is that some of those investments has been pushed. So once we see a shift, it typically goes fairly quickly. However, where we are right now, I have to be honest and say that we don't really see that. So we're waiting for it. We haven't seen that shift, but we expect we when it comes, it's -- what typically happens is then that shift comes fairly quickly. I think that's true for also some of the other business areas and platforms that we have. You asked about Salix before. So we had a good, I would say, organic growth in Q1. Now it slowed down a bit in Q2. It's a bit volatile right now. Hard to predict. But once it -- once the growth starts coming back, we know there is a big growth gap to be closed, not only for Volati, it's also for the general markets. And whilst that positive momentum comes, I think it could potentially be -- go fairly quickly.
Unknown Analyst
analystYes. Understood. And if we could perhaps get a bit more into the Land Mainland project here, which you mentioned contributed positively to Tornum here in the quarter. Could you perhaps just help us herein with regards to like how much of the project that has been delivered to date and how the delivery trajectory looks throughout the remaining, I guess, duration of the project?
Andreas Stenback
executiveI think what we said or what I said in the CEO letter is that we're going to continue delivering on that a bit into 2026. So we still have, what is it, like 9 months to go or something like that. But I think we'll be going on for roughly 9 months as well. And the profile is typically that you have a peak in the middle. And then it -- so it's -- you have a start, then it gradually picks up in terms of deliveries and then it slows down towards the end. So I think that's the information that I can give with regards to that.
Unknown Analyst
analystYes. Fair enough. And just on the extraordinary items you're taking in the quarter related to restructurings. Could you say something regarding which platform this refers to? And also if you could provide any color there on what measures have been taken?
Andreas Stenback
executiveUnfortunately, we do not give that specific information what platform it is. But I think the comment to that is that we continuously work with operational improvements and doing these more long-term structured measures. And I think we've had extraordinary items related to this maybe every third quarter or so. So now we've had some in Q2. I actually expect us to get some in Q3 as well. But this is more -- it's continuous work improvement. In this particular case, it's a restructuring or reorganization of an operation unit.
Unknown Analyst
analystFair enough. And just finally from my side and on Ettiketto here. Could you perhaps say anything on how the sort of underlying margin profile has developed here year-over-year if we would adjust for the acquisition of Clever? Would you say that it's still -- is it up year-over-year, excluding for Clever? Or is it flat? Or how should we think of that?
Andreas Stenback
executiveI think it's -- we don't see any shift with regards to the margin profile of the underlying business. And -- so it's -- I think it's more or less in line with the Q1 or in line with what we've seen in the past. So the shift in margin profile for the overall business area at Ettiketto is solely connected to the dilution from the acquisition.
Operator
operatorAnd that concludes our Q&A session here, and I'll hand over to you, Andreas, for some concluding remarks.
Andreas Stenback
executiveOkay. Thank you. So I wanted to take the opportunity to this time turn a bit inwards and thank all the colleagues of Volati. You're really doing a great job. We are -- or you have put us in a really good position. And we are structurally very well prepared. And now we've seen somewhat of a delay in the market recovery, at least related to what I expected or hoped for. But once that comes, we will really get the benefit or see the benefits of all the hard work that you've done. So it's going to be a very fun journey once we get there. So thank you, everyone.
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