Vontier Corporation (VNT) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
February 16, 2021
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Julian Mitchell
analystGreat. Thank you, everyone, for joining. It's my pleasure to have now for our fireside chat the Vontier CEO and CFO, Mark Morelli and Dave Naemura. As a reminder, any questions anyone dialed in has, please e-mail me, and I'll make sure to get to those questions. And also please take a minute to look at the surveys at the side of the screen. So I think we'll start off with some quick prepared remarks before going into the Q&A. So I'll hand it over to Mark and to Dave.
Mark Morelli
executiveGreat. Julian, thanks for having us. As you can see, we've got our safe harbor statements here. You can review them at your leisure. If you go to Slide 4, we -- just give us one second here, and we'll get to the chart. So we've launched an industrial technology company of scale with a portfolio of market-leading brands and technologies, serving attractive mobility and transportation markets. We have a large global installed base with low cyclicality and high recurring revenue. In fact, you can see in this pie chart in the lower right, about 30% of our business comes from retail refueling hardware. And I think that's something that a lot of investors miss, and it's only 30% of our revenue. And about 1/4 of our revenue is recurring revenue and 1/3 of that is SaaS and the other 2/3 is service. We have an outstanding financial profile, as shown here on the right-hand chart -- of this chart, with strong margins and free cash flow and a pension for M&A. And the Vontier business system is something that few companies can lay claim to in terms of a legacy that we're carrying forward. And it is the basis for organic initiatives that enhance our growth profile as well as our ability to deliver increasing margins off a base of already strong margins. I might add that this is a management team with a proven track record for substantial growth and portfolio transformation. Go to the next chart. If you can see from our Q4 earnings that we released last week, that we delivered a strong finish to 2020 as VBS continues to help us deliver top-tier financial performance where we had another quarter of double-digit earnings growth and impressive free cash flow, conversion, core revenue growth and margin expansion. So we continue to position the portfolio for the future, and we are investing ahead for profitable growth opportunities. Also, what we discussed in the earnings call last week is that we initiated a guide that reflects really a story of 2 halves. Because we have this comparison dynamic that's fairly unique to us as we saw strong demand come through in the second half of this year, as we rebounded from COVID and also took advantage of the opportunities that were available to us and also did things like gain share, coupled with the EMV headwind that we're going to face in the second half of 2021. That said, we view 2021 as a springboard to a multiyear transformation as we accelerate profitable growth and continue to invest both in organic and inorganic opportunities. Go to the next chart. This is a view of our large $27 billion market, which is an excellent runway for us to have earnings growth. And the top half of this chart is our mobility technology platform. And this consists of Gilbarco Veeder-Root or GVR; Teletrac Navman; or GTT, which is Global Traffic Technologies. And our installed base here positions us well to expand into attractive market adjacencies, such as our ability to leverage e-mobility, smart cities as well as fleet monitoring management and the ability to landscape into logistics and supply chain management. On the bottom half of the chart is our diagnostics and repair technology platform and this is based on our Matco and our Hennessy's brands. And what gives us an ability to leverage here going forward is increasing miles driven and aging car park and also the complete complexity of repair that it continues to go up. So this gives us a unique opportunity to leverage workflow solutions as well as diagnostics. Turn to the next chart, please. This brings us to how we bring this altogether. And our business model is around this growth algorithm about the value creation flywheel. And this is about continued revenue growth at GDP+, margin expansion as well as an investment-grade style balance sheet that funds our ability to compound earnings through M&A. All of this centered around VBS that is our unique heritage that, as you can see, we're carrying forward. And this brings us to our last chart. This really makes a -- what we believe a very compelling value creation and opportunity for us to invest into the future, and we think a very good compelling investment opportunity. So with that, we're excited to mobilize the future to create a better world, and we're happy to take questions, Julian.
Julian Mitchell
analystThank you very much, Mark, for that introduction. I suppose one question we commonly get is, it's been very recent since Vontier spun out as a stand-alone company, how satisfied are you with what's changing so far, even though it's only been a handful of months? And what are sort of the main 1 or 2 things that you really hope in a year, we can look back on and say, okay, X and Y changed or improved, and that's probably something you'll see internally much more than we'll see on the outside? But maybe just to help us understand some of the priorities you and Dave have.
Mark Morelli
executiveAbsolutely. The first thing is we're really proud of the legacy that we have, which includes the DNA from Danaher and Fortive and includes what we carry forward in VBS. But the separation really does provide us a unique opportunity for focus. And what we mean by that is both organically, we believe there is an excellent runway to continue to invest and to continue to drive both earnings growth as well as organic growth as well as the strong balance sheet that we have and the legacy that we've got for accelerating growth through M&A as well. So both those 2 elements, we think, will play out, and you'll begin to see them playing out. And the runway in the business itself is also quite relevant. Yes, I think you heard us talk about some of the businesses that are a little bit below fleet margins, opportunities there, so this enhanced focus. But not only that, I've spoken about our ability to get better drop through R&D. And while we spend a healthy amount, about 5% on R&D, we think we can do a lot better in terms of the returns that we get off that. So lots of improvement opportunity, and we're very excited on the road ahead.
Julian Mitchell
analystPerfect. And in terms of the organic sort of growth outlook, even though it's only 1/3 of the sales mix. You probably have to start with retail fueling. But we look at GVR, in aggregate, you mentioned that mid-single-digit growth sort of outlook there. I understand -- and leaving aside the noise around EMV in the U.S. in the short term. But what's the conviction level that, that mid-single-digit growth outlook is realistic amidst what's happening with that ICE to EV transition globally?
Mark Morelli
executiveYes. So first of all, we're very confident with the growth that we can get out of GVR, both in the near term as well as the medium term and ex EMV. And this is because of this history. And we have not only successfully delivered this, there's a lot of secular drivers here that continue to be at play. Not only that, many of the infrastructure kind of build-outs that you see both in your developed market as well as high-growth markets are quite different. High-growth markets can be lumpy, but you can see that in Q4, they've returned to growth for us. And it really is kind of unique to -- our ability to kind of deliver on a global scale. And you see some of that happen in Mexico this past quarter, where I think it's a great example. Where not only can we get price, we can increase share, we can leverage VBS to get higher margins. So I think all things are sort of at play, and you start seeing them read through on some of our financial results already. And you also touched on EV and e-mobility. We view this as an and opportunity. So this is not -- this is where we can leverage our global base here, our infrastructure and the fact that we serve customers with market-leading brands. And what -- so by being part of that infrastructure means that we really have a right to play. And if you keep in mind, the market is pretty nascent. I mean we're less than 1% penetrated right now in electric vehicles. And so for many years to come, not only with the ICE car parc build-out, but we have these minority investments. And we have a front-row seat as this market begins to evolve and as we pick through the profit pools in the right areas to invest and develop for growth.
Julian Mitchell
analystAnd within the high-growth regions, maybe help us understand sort of Vontier's market position, market share, perhaps, and what sort of growth rate over time within the high-growth regions we can expect and how much of that might be share gain versus the TAM or the broad market expanding.
Mark Morelli
executiveYes. Happy to provide clarity there. So high-growth markets, as we talked about, are an important part of our strategy and how we can untap value here. To answer you specifically there, it represents about 16% of the total Vontier revenues today. And if you look at the kind of growth we expect, it's mid-single-digit plus growth in 2021. If you look at some of the markets, primarily India, it's been based off the tender wins. We've got a very good backlog that we're beginning to serve off right now. And COVID has kind of thawed the ability for us to do installation. So you're starting to see some of that revenue come through, which we're really excited about. And then the combination of India and China represent 7% of GVR specifically. So if you look at the high-growth market build-out, it's not just the infrastructure build-out, it's the opportunity to move up in terms of technology, more towards automation-type solutions, which we have a lot more electronic content. And we can also increase margins in that format going forward, too.
Julian Mitchell
analystI see. And when you think about the profitability dynamics, if and when we see those high-growth regions form a higher share of GVR and maybe Vontier's overall sales mix, is there any major sort of margin headwind that's carried with that? Or you think you can earn very good operating leverage in those high-growth regions as well?
Mark Morelli
executiveYes. I think it will follow a similar model like the build-out in developed markets where the margin profile is less. But through application of VBS and through consolidating wins, through moving up the technology stack, like we talked about, towards more automation, these are all great opportunities for us apply leverage of VBS. And we did it in developed markets, and we'll do it in high-growth markets. So it's an excellent runway of opportunity ahead.
Julian Mitchell
analystAnd if we look at the diagnostics and repair side of the company, the sales there were fairly sort of flattish perhaps for a few years, pre-COVID. Post-COVID, it's having a sort of a -- or alongside COVID, a surge right now. But when you look at diagnostics and repair, have you done things to sort of rejuvenate the growth there, rejuvenate the market share? And there are some new product introductions that should mean that once we get to a sort of normalized environment, the growth profile for it is higher than perhaps it had been before the spinout.
David Naemura
executiveJulian, we tend to look at our diagnostics and repair platforms kind of a low single-digit business that has jumped around some. We've seen greater product vitality there, and [ we see it here ], particularly out of Matco. Our growth algorithm there support that kind of low single digits is continuing to grow same-store sales. But also recall that about 30% of our available franchise territories in Matco remain unpenetrated. So we have a real good runway of growth there and a very good operating model. And right now, there's very good conditions for growth. The end user technician, employment levels are healthy and the personal balance sheets of those customers is very healthy as well. So we see a good dynamic that should maintain that historical low single-digit growth that we've seen in what is an above kind of fleet average profitability-type business.
Julian Mitchell
analystAnd if we look -- thank you, David. If we look across Vontier, how comfortable is the management that market share in general is something that can expand now that the company is stand-alone? Or is that less of a priority even improving the margins and inorganically expanding M&A?
Mark Morelli
executiveYes. I'll take that one. I think that we absolutely are focused on picking up as much opportunity that might be available to us. I think if you look at some of the results that we're posting that we do believe we are gaining share in the refueling side. And we think that, that's great because what happens is you build out more of your installed base, and that's a great thing for you to leverage going forward, both on connecting your forecourt as well as service opportunities. So there's no question that part of our core value drivers is also about organic growth. I think you've also seen some restructuring read-through in the numbers. You might expect that, early innings, when those opportunities might be afforded to us, particularly with the separation and the roll-off of EMV. So we're laser-focused on the opportunities on both the organic side as well as picking up things on the bottom line.
Julian Mitchell
analystPerfect. And I suppose telematics is something that offers, I think everyone would agree, high growth as a market. Maybe help us understand sort of what Vontier's doing to help improve its participation there, get the churn down, get the share up and the stickiness of the customer base up and what that means maybe for margins in telematics, like what should a business like that in steady state, assuming it's successfully sort of turned around.
Mark Morelli
executiveYes. So we made really good progress this last year in telematics. We dramatically improved year-over-year. This time last year, the churn has really stabilized quite a bit. More work to go, for sure, but the improvement has been really solid. And this past year, we launched a new platform. And it's called TN360, and we're continuing to launch features for that. This year, we'll be launching a feature on ELD for the North American market. So really happy to see the progress we're making. But at the same time, it's, as we said, roughly a breakeven business. So margins have a way to go. Gross margins are healthy in the business. But clearly, we've got opportunities for simplification. We've got opportunities to continue to stabilize churn, to enhance our focus on growth with TN360 in the regions that we serve and in the segments that we serve. And as a SaaS business, that will take some time for it to throw through the P&L. And to answer your question, the backdrop in this market is good. It's a market that is -- can support healthy margins. And is a high single-digit growth market as well. So while it will take some time for us to get that kind of drop-through to read through a SaaS business, we're happy with what we've been able to achieve so far. And we're happy with the market backdrop.
Julian Mitchell
analystThank you. And on the overall sort of profitability side, just because Vontier as a stand-alone entity is fairly new, maybe help us understand how comfortable management is with growing margins and seeing good operating leverage this year, ex EMV, in that context of sort of higher input costs and the risk that, that might pose to the business.
Mark Morelli
executiveAre you talking about across the business or about telematics?
Julian Mitchell
analystAcross the -- sorry, across the whole of Vontier exactly.
Mark Morelli
executiveYes.
David Naemura
executiveSo Julian, we -- in the guide that we put out for 2021, we've assumed that we effectively offset the rising cost of inputs, which we anticipate by effectively pricing and passing that through price, plus our other procurement initiatives, which I think we've had a history of showing we've effectively been able to do and manage kind of price material economics. We guided to greater than 25 basis points of operating margin expansion, which contemplates a headwind from a couple of things. EMV coming off, which comes off a little bit higher than the fleet average margins. And then we took out some costs in Q2 of the prior year, which will come back to us this year to a very temporary nature. That was about $20 million in the second quarter of the prior year, of which -- majority of which should come in -- back in this year, maybe excluding a little bit of travel. But our efforts around simplification, other cost measures, you've seen those manifest themselves in some of the restructuring we've talked about. We won't always be talking about restructuring, but I think given some of the unique developments of this year that over the course of the year, we think we effectively offset those headwinds. And that's kind of how we got to that guide of about 25 basis points of operating margin expansion for the year.
Julian Mitchell
analystThank you, David. And sometimes we see with companies once they're spun out, higher investment spend, it can be a decent sort of anchor on operating leverage for a few years as they try and reinvest to get the organic growth moving again. It doesn't sound like that should be an issue at Vontier. It sounds like there is a push around the sort of efficiency or efficacy of that R&D investment. So maybe just help clarify kind of some of those points around what degree of more investment is needed and what is happening with that R&D base to sort of make it have a faster payback perhaps on the sales line.
Mark Morelli
executiveYes. So we spend about 5% of sales on R&D, it's much higher than the standard industrial company at [ 2% ]. But at the same time, the -- we're not getting the kind of drop-through that I would expect for 5%. I come from managing both industrial companies as well as technology companies, where we've also spent a lot more than that. And I'm happy to spend more, but not until you get really good drop-through. And so I think that sort of the proof points to us is let's prove that we get a lot better bang for our buck on what we spend, and then we'll find the right appropriate level. But I would not be in condition of increasing spend right now because there's -- I think there's a lot of headroom based on getting more efficiency on our spend. And so we're excited about that. We think there's a real runway of improvement opportunities with that.
Julian Mitchell
analystAnd your point, I suppose, Mark, is that there isn't any sort of broad sense of underinvestment, even when this was under prior ownership, right?
Mark Morelli
executiveI don't think so, but I do think that focus has a real benefit here. When we're looking at 5 operating companies as opposed to dozens of operating companies, we're able to apply more deeply and spend a lot more time and energy on some of these areas that, as you may know, where maybe opportunities before. So these are kind of legacy-type opportunities. So I think Dave and I are both really excited. The entire management team is excited to really double down on some of these runway opportunities. And quite honestly, it's invigorating because of -- if everything were so well-run and so picked clean, then there wouldn't be opportunity for it to drop to the bottom line and have better growth. So we're excited about what's in front of us, and we're energized by these opportunities.
Julian Mitchell
analystUnderstood. And back switching to capital deployment, which, as you said, that's a core part of that flywheel that you mentioned at the beginning. Because it's a sort of a new-ish company, we haven't seen a lot of M&A in these assets under the old ownership structures, what are the sort of 2 or 3 things that you'd point out to investors to give them comfort on the M&A that's presumably coming, particularly when we look at valuations going up every day, every week, it feels like -- yes, any sort of points around that?
Mark Morelli
executiveYes. I think the starting point is clearly having a good balance sheet and having a really good capability. And there's a strong history here for the operating companies to also cultivate their pipelines. And I think when you think about -- or investors should think about is a disciplined approach, it's based on strategy, where we are early innings. We'll look for things that will be middle of the fairway to deliver growth. And returns are -- is also based on the strategy that you see. So it's not just on the price you pay. So there's nothing that we're seeing right now. And keep in mind that the markets we're looking at here, it's pretty fragmented, growthy markets, and there's a number of avenues for us to go down. So I think they're all near-in adjacencies, by the way, when you look at the -- this $27 billion market, it's not like things are too far afield. Where another -- other opportunities, I think, that I've looked at, also David looked at, you might have to go looking pretty far. I think these are pretty near end of what we already do. And I think that, that's all quite attractive. David, do you want to add anything there?
David Naemura
executiveNo, I think you nailed it. I mean I would add like -- and you said it, we would anticipate a range of deals here, Julian. And yes, things are expensive, and we're focused on returns. Money has gotten less expensive and we look for return rates that are -- that give us a good spread over our cost of capital. And maybe with money being cheaper, it provides us the opportunity for a little more latitude in hitting our return objectives. But we're focused on shareholder return in a disciplined manner, so that's what guides our M&A approach.
Julian Mitchell
analystAnd would you say that, that M&A pipeline or funnel, it's sort of as you expected it to be 6, 9 months ago kind of pre the spin? Has that sort of filled out as you would have hoped?
David Naemura
executiveJulian, I would add that these processes of M&A cultivation didn't stop. So they happened in the pre-spin days under Fortive and those activities have continued on into Vontier. So we stepped into Vontier with the businesses, having a point of view about what's out there. And we really -- some things come top down and outside in and some things come inside out and bottoms up. And so that activity, which is a very robust process, has continued. And as you know, we've then augmented our corporate team with some legacy skill sets. We're very familiar with that process. So we think there's not, I think, pause or rebuilding effort here that there's a lot of kind of middle of the fairway, close to the core type of opportunities out there for us. And then we'll further build that out as we continue to refine kind of a broader point of view from the Vontier top of the house.
Julian Mitchell
analystAnd is it fair to assume that because of those questions around EMV or GVR's growth, that some of the acquisitions will be more revenue growth accretive in that sense, and that's a particular priority or not necessarily? You want to stay disciplined if something is growing mid-single digit or low to mid-single digit, that's enough if it gets you the right place in the right market for the right price?
David Naemura
executiveWell, I think we'll stay focused on returns. And -- but also when we say a range of deals, something that's classic bolt-on, it will add revenue, but it will also provide significantly higher return in a shorter period of time and maybe something a little growthier that isn't quite in the core of what we do today might have a little longer return profile to get to those hurdles we're looking for. So I think you'll see a mix of those things. But we'll primarily remain focused on returns. Having said that, we have a lot of attractive growth areas that are adjacent to us, and so I think we'll see a good opportunity to add some growth there.
Julian Mitchell
analystAnd if we look at one area that we sometimes get asked about is the whole payments realm, there's an enormous change the last few years, a lot of growth in different aspects of payments and Vontier obviously has a footprint in parts of it around the refueling infrastructure and so on. How broad or wide are the aspirations of Vontier in that sort of field, payments specifically?
Mark Morelli
executiveYes. Payments is an attractive area. I mean -- I think people don't really recognize that we do have touchless payments today. Not only that, we're a leader in technology coming out of our Orpak business on vehicle identification, which is a contactless payment methodology that's used in some markets where you just drive up your vehicle and it automatically -- the vehicle's identified and it automatically pays. So this is an area that we're very interested in for the longer term. And we've got great technology that we've already fielded in many parts of the world. So certainly, COVID has brought that more to light and I think it falls into a strong suit for us and represents a potential real growth area.
Julian Mitchell
analystPerfect. And I suppose looking broadly at the whole company, free cash flow performance, that's a sort of hallmark of Danaher and Fortive, based on 2020, the hallmark at Vontier as well. Some normalization this year in common with almost everyone that I cover. But what should we expect around that free cash flow margin or conversion beyond this year? And what sort of free cash flow compounded growth rate do you think investors can sort of look forward to over the next 5 years?
David Naemura
executiveWell, the best guidance I could give is we've always talked about this business being about 100% conversion of our adjusted net earnings, Julian. And I think kind of through the cycle, that remains true. You nailed it, we saw a very robust cash flow last year. That significant reduction of working capital as a percent of LTM sales, and that really helped fuel last year. Plus, we just had some spin dynamics where we didn't have all of our federal withholding tax payments. And so those -- some of those tax payments moved to 2021, which is a headwind. And then given the, frankly, all-time level of working capital here, low level of working capital that we're jumping off from, we wouldn't anticipate working capital would be a tailwind and rather probably a little bit of a headwind as we see some inventory levels normalized and things like that. So we'll see that trade off. I think we guided to about 95% conversion for 2021. But through the cycle here, I think the way to think about this business is 100% conversion with -- just like we saw this year, maybe some puts and takes between years. But overall, that's how I think about it.
Julian Mitchell
analystAnd what about on that sort of compounded growth? What should people expect if you're looking at a longer period of time, organic plus whatever acquisitions could bring?
David Naemura
executiveYes. It's -- there's enough variables there that I think I want to be careful trying to put too fine of an answer on it, but you know our objective is to grow earnings faster than sales. And we would continue the conversion -- to convert an appropriate amount. So these things can be a little lumpy as you bring deals in and you work over a period of time to normalize the working capital as acquisitions as we apply VBS and add value to a deal that we can do. So I want to be careful not to put too fine of a number on it, but it should be an opportunity as we're effectively continuing to run the flywheel model that Mark presented as part of his presentation.
Julian Mitchell
analystPerfect. Well, I think we're out of time, unfortunately. And thank you both. I know you've got a busy schedule of meetings. So very much appreciate you participating in this fireside chat, Mark and Dave. And good luck with the rest of the meetings.
David Naemura
executiveThanks, Julian.
Mark Morelli
executiveThank you. Thank you. Bye. Have a good day.
Julian Mitchell
analystYou too.
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