WEG S.A. (WEGE3) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

July 23, 2026

BOVESPA BR Industrials Electrical Equipment earnings 66 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good morning, and welcome to WEG's Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. I would like to highlight that simultaneous translation is available on the platform. The interpretation button Globe icon at the bottom of your screen. Please note that we are broadcasting this conference and a replay of the audio will be available on our Investor Relations website after the event. [Operator Instructions] We would like to remind you that any forward-looking statements contained in this presentation are made during this conference call regarding future events, business outlook, operating and financial projections and targets and WED's future growth prospects are based on current beliefs and expectations of WEG's management and on information currently available to the company. Such statements involve risks and uncertainties and therefore, depend on circumstances that may or may not occur. Investors should understand that general economic conditions, industry conditions and other operating factors may affect WEG's future performance and could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed in such forward-looking statements. Joining us today from Jaragua do Sul, are Andre Luis Rodrigues, Vice President of Finance and Administration, Andre Menegueti Salgueiro, Finance and Investor Relations Officer; and Felipe Scopel Hoffmann, Investor Relations Manager. Mr. Andre Rodrigues, you may proceed.

André Rodrigues

executive
#2

Good morning, everyone. It's a pleasure to be with you in this earnings call to discuss WEG's results. I'll start with the key figures for the quarter on Slide 3, showing a slight decrease in net operating revenue of when compared to the second quarter of 2025. Although the same effect that impacted revenue performance in the first quarter of 2026 to present this quarter. We have managed to virtualize virtual nurses impact with the continued growth of revenues abroad. And speaking of those effects, the first effect on Brazil, relates to the fact that we already had a significant order book for centralized solar generation deliveries in the second quarter of 2025. When compared to the absence of these deliveries in the second quarter of 2026, this had a negative impact on revenue in the domestic market. Despite this, other businesses contributed positively the quarter's results. with continued deliveries of transmission and distribution projects, coupled with improved industrial activities. The second effect was related to the impact of exchange rate fluctuations during the period, which for conversion purposes, reduced the growth of BRL despite another quarter of good growth in local currencies in the main regions. Industrial activities remained positive in our main markets, particularly in segments such as oil and gas and ventilation and refrigeration systems. Furthermore, we continue to see a good volume of deliveries from the T&D business in North America called with strong demand from generation business. The EBITDA margin remained healthy, in line with our expectations, with a slight adjustment compared to the same period last year. and in the quarter at 21.8%. Our EBITDA reached BRL 2.2 billion a decrease of 2.1% compared to the second quarter of 2025. Throughout the presentation, Andre Salgueiro will give more details about this point. And the ROIC, 1 of our main financial indicators showed growth of 0.7 percentage points and ended the quarter at 3.6% as we can see in more detail on the next slide. Our ROIC remained healthy, growing compared to the second quarter of 2025, reinforcing the quality of our investments, the discipline in capital allocation and the consistency of our long-term strategy. I now turn the floor over to Andre Salgueiro to continue.

André Salgueiro

executive
#3

Thank you, Andre. Good morning, everyone. On Slide 5, I present the evolution of revenues in our business areas. In Brazil, positive industrial activity with growth in demand for short-cycle equipment such as low-voltage electric motors and gearbox reducers spread across various sectors. Long cycle equipment such as high-voltage motors and automation panels also showed sales growth particularly in the paper and pulp segment, a result of the strong order backlog built up in the recent quarters. In GTD, revenue continues to be impacted by the decline in solar generation business mainly due to the lack of centralized generation projects in 2026. We continue to see positive performance in the business, driven by deliveries of large transformers and substations. The commercial motors and appliance area showed sales growth linked to relevant market segments such as washing machine and compressor manufacturers. And in Tinton furnishes, demand remains strong, spread across different segments with the oil and gas segment standing out. In the external market, demand for short-cycle industrial equipment remained positive in several operating regions with particular emphasis on the strong performance in Europe and in the U.S. in the oil and gas and ventilation and cooling systems. For data centers. Good results were also seen in long cycle equipment such as high-voltage motors and automation panels and action to a healthy order intake contributing to the building of an order backlog for the coming quarters. In the GTD area, the T&D business presented another quarter with a good volume of deliveries in opportunities related to strengthening the electrical grade infrastructure in the United States. In the power generation business, the Marathon Generator business in the U.S. continues to perform well. In addition to the contribution of its European operations. In commercial motors and appliances, demand remained healthy in key regions, particularly in U.S. operations, although revenue growth was impacted by currency fluctuation when compared to the same period of the previous year. And lastly, in paints and varnishes, demand continued to grow, mainly due to the strong performance of operations in Mexico as well as the contribution of Hadasit business. On Slide 6. We show the evolution of EBITDA. The EBITDA margin remains positive and in the quarter of 21.8% supported by a favorable product mix despite the challenges brought talk about by the rising cost of some raw materials, the effect of import tariffs in the United States and the increase in regional expenses, mainly related to the execution of our strategy to our production capacity. On Slide 7, we show the evolution of investments, which totaled BRL 795 million out of which 45% in Brazil and 55% abroad. In Brazil, we continue making investments to expand production capacity in and the constant modernization of low-voltage electric motor factories. In addition to investments to increase the production capacity of large equipment in Jaragua do Sul. And abroad, there was a progress in investment in transformer factories and Colombia and the United States in addition to investments in expanding production capacity in China. With that, I finish my part, and I give the floor back to Andre.

André Rodrigues

executive
#4

On Slide 8, and before we move on to the Q&A session, I would like to point out the following. At the end of April, that presented its 2025 integrated annual report, highlighting advances in sustainability and showcasing the company's continued evolution in innovation and social environmental responsibility. Finally, I would like to talk a little about the outlook for the year. Demand remains positive abroad. Coupled with strong order or orders for long-cycle equipment, both in the industrial segment and in the T&D business. Despite the challenges of the first half of the year, we remain confident in the more favorable scenario for the return of revenue growth for the remainder of the year, thanks to the strong performance of our businesses and also due to the normalization of the comparison base related to 2025. And finally, we are continuing to execute our investment package for the modernization and expansion of our production capacity in 2026, supporting the company's strategy and continuous and sustainable growth. I end our presentation here. Now let move to the Q&A session.

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Lucas from XP Investments.

Lucas Laghi

analyst
#6

I have 2 topics I would like to approach 1 for the short term and the other longer term. Now thinking about the tariff effects, everything has been quite fluid, but I would like you to try to explain how -- what was the difference of impact of the first and the second quarter, so that we understand the differences. And if the -- if the base scenario continues as it is today, how -- can we think about the impact of the impact of the tariff along the year. And I have a second question, thinking about the ramp-up of the new plant. How do you assess the timing of such investment maturation especially talking about some plans and how can we think about the profitability of those units as they move on along the its maturation process, considering the production maturities, thinking about pork methodology, how can we think about the deleverage impact and also considering the beginning of the operations. How can we think about the margin -- during the maturation of the investments that are likely to bring this significant increase in revenues along 2027 and 2028. These are the 2 points.

André Rodrigues

executive
#7

Lucas, Andre Rodrigues here. Let me start talking about the tariffs, Thinking about the expectations and the comparison of the first and the second quarter, it's worth devoting some time to explain all the changes that happened and what this can cause the WEG. As of yesterday, on July 27, the Section 301 started to be valid at 25%. They are not cumulative when we consider the 232 sessions, which were more specifically applied that would affect the content of higher and copper of the products. And now it's applied to all the products. The scenario of tariffs and the products are tag, how do they stand now Brazil. In a simple way, average -- Mexico is the Section 231 for large transformers and there is a differential above 10 MVA 50% applied and smaller companies 10 MVA of 25% and large-sized motors, 25% in tariff. When we talk about large motors, we are talking about more than 200 HPs. It's important to remember that the over tax of 12.5% is being considered also based on the Section 301. This is caused by allegation of forced labor and covers more than 60 countries, including Brazil. Brazil is included in the group together with Japan, China, India, among other factors as well. The tariff is not likely to impact the product produced in Mexico because this is according to SCA in Mexico. And drags products are produced there. And it's not clear yet if those tariffs is, if the new tariff will be cumulative to the others of the session. If so, if this tariff is applied in a cumulative way, the total tariff may reach 37%. But it's important to remember that now answering part of your question, when we make the comparisons of the quarters, first and second quarter. And up to February this year, the tariffs applied to WEG products coming from Brazil stood at 50%. And we adopted several mitigation measures. So from 50, we moved to 10%, but then we had the 232 that impacted the major life sizer machine, an equipment and then it became 25%. Now considering the constant changes in the tariff scenario, it's really hard to estimate now the impact for the long term. But it's correct to say that maintaining the current tariffs, we are going to have an impact on the consolidated base of the company. Everybody here, at WEG continues working to mitigate all those effects using the diversification of the footprint, global the company reevaluating the commercial strategy as necessary in order to have the met mitigation. The major message is that we are going to continue evaluating the impact and doing the best to mitigate the effect, always in the search for maintaining the competitiveness of WEG.

André Salgueiro

executive
#8

This is Salgueiro speaking. In relation to ramp-up of the factories -- the question was more focused on T&D. And now going back a little, not to remember the history track. We announced the expansion of practically 100% of what we had in 2023 and 2024. Let's say, 100% on increasing capacity, and we had already added 10% in the last call. And now with anticipation of betting in the middle of the year, we are likely to add more 10%, or 15%. So that will amount to 25% of the original announced capacity. Now in the middle of the year, we are going to have the available capacity already in the middle of the year, which is important to say. And the other 75% be operational at the beginning of next year with a new factory in Mexico and another factor in Colombia. We'd like to remind you that those dates are when the factories are going to be ready and not necessarily is when we are going to be running 100% generating 100% of revenues. So we estimate that we will need a little bit longer in order to make the factory fully operational and be close to the optimized level of 100%. How long is it going to take? It will depend on each of the operations. And also since the margin -- how the margin is going to be, it would depend on each operation. In practice, when we look at the T&D segment, which is running at a positive profitability and the does not show any important downside or downturn in the scenario. Of course, when we're in the process of ramp-up of factories, it's just natural that you should have some costs as we have already seen. And we even mentioned this in the previous call, there was an increase of personnel expense because we are hiring more people. So during the ramp-up, we may have some impact on the profitability. And why is it difficult to estimate because it depends on each individual plant. So it is a factor that is being expanded. So the process is likely to happen more quickly. When we talk about Mexico and Colombia, we're talking about new factories. And it's -- the ramp-up should be quicker depending on the size of the transformer. So depending on the characteristics of each plant, we are going to have a different effect. We estimate that a long 2027. And especially in 2028, we are going to be running those factories at very optimized capacity and profitability level as the -- similar to the operations we run T&D operations nowadays.

Operator

operator
#9

Our next question comes from Joao Frizo of Goldman Sachs.

João Francisco Frizo

analyst
#10

My question is related to the tariff SP138348726 Last year, you said that you increased price twice, one in the beginning of the year and the end of the year the 1 in the was to reflect the tariffs. Since then, there has been a lot of trains in the tariffs. So it may become like 7%. But how have you been negotiating with your clients in terms of pricing adjurment abroad. This is the first question. And the second question is in relation to electric and like electronic equipment in Brazil, who has had a very good performance in this quarter, growing 6% year-on-year. So I would like to understand if this was a result of the projects that we had in the first quarter that is usually stronger, but was weaker and then it moved to the performance to the second quarter? Or is it an advance from the third quarter? Just for me to understand the dynamics down the road?

André Rodrigues

executive
#11

So will let me go back and talk about tariffs. I've already answered the first part. In reality, it's a very complex thesis. When we approach this topic at because in fact, it involves the production platform in the United States, a production platform in Mexico and production platform in Brazil and other countries as well. We also export others at a lower level. We also -- it's for products to the United States. Each case is valid to the client, and we try to understand what happens with the variations of the price of commodities, for example, such as the case of inflation, as we mentioned in the previous call. All this is evaluated, and we define our strategy according to the need. According to what's happening today in relation to the tariffs and also other points that cause variations such as the price of commodities. In relation to the performance of equipment in Brazil, we saw an acceleration of the revenues in the second quarter second half of the year, by the way. We saw an improvement trend across all the industry, especially for the demand of short-cycle equipment. But I would say that the effect, which is important to mention, and was not usual is that we had the contribution from the long cycle equipment as we mentioned in the release, we saw a very positive performance of Popper in Brazil. So we have some projects in our portfolio. And in the second quarter, we started a delivery a very important project. And this is going to continue along the next quarters. And this is a project that will take some quarters for us to complete all the deliveries. And this contributed to the performance of the second quarter. In addition, there is another factor that we always keep in mind. We have the part of new businesses such as mobility. In spite of the fact that it is a small share when we compare to the total revenues when you compare to the industrial equipment. We see that this is something that has been growing a lot such as powertrain and also the recharge station. And this has been contributing to the stronger growth in equipment in the second quarter.

Operator

operator
#12

Our next question comes from Luiza Mussi from Bank Safra.

Luiza Mussi Tanus e Bastos

analyst
#13

We saw some positive impact on the line of expenses close to 25%. Could you provide some details about how that happened if we can consider this. and the level that is going to continue for the future. And in terms of price, you mentioned tariff prices. I would like to understand the dynamics of pricing of transformers in the United States. Considering the industry current scenario, how the prices of new contracts have been playing out?

André Rodrigues

executive
#14

Just confirm the first question because we couldn't hear your audio so clearly.

Luiza Mussi Tanus e Bastos

analyst
#15

So the question is about other operating revenues.

André Rodrigues

executive
#16

Yes, that's right. Considering this group, we had some nonrecurring effect in the first quarter, as we mentioned in the call of the first quarter. In the second quarter, we didn't have any nonrecurring effect. In fact, when we look at the breakdown between expenses and revenues, number is a bit above of what we usually see. But this was a result of some movement of assets in the company that were included in assets and also expenses. So net the effect was almost new. The important variation that we saw in this group in relation to the second quarter of last year was a lower expense with profit sharing and bonuses. And this reflects the result the lower result delivered in this period of the year. So there was nothing out of the usual. There was no nonrecurring effect as we had experienced in the first quarter. So for profitability and recurring margin effect, we do not need to consider any adjustments for the numbers of the second quarter. We are talking about pricing. Nothing changed from the viewpoint of demand for transformers in North America. In general, in all countries. And considering the locations where we operate. This is something done for type project. And as we have already mentioned, today, what we are using for the pricing is the price of commodities. All the agreements that we have, we have very metric formats we evaluate what was the price of the copper, the steel the main component of the transformer. So this is evaluated on a case-by-case basis. And as we said along the time, different from the past when we had a more stronger growth of price, this is not what we have seen now but the level of pricing that we see today in the sector is a level which is very attractive, still very attractive, right?

Operator

operator
#17

Our next question comes from Andre Mazini from Citi.

André Mazini

analyst
#18

Maybe a follow-up of the different pros pricing. You noticed there is more pricing power with data center client when compared to other clients. Data center clients are appreciating the shortly time more than others, more than price itself as typically. And I would like to know if the product there demanding is changing transformers. Maybe there's a hyper scalers and the state solid transformers that has a technology, which is probably newer since they're trying to find the resources to feed the data center. So the question is the type of product and also pricing for those clients.

André Salgueiro

executive
#19

Mazine, Salgueiro speaking. So I'll get it speaking. We have some level of exposure to data sales. As we've mentioned previously, in some segments, maybe the which are clearer to us are the sales of marathon alternators for energy backup, transformers that are used in the connection of data centers or grids and we started to see more demand in industrial equipment, especially for pumps and ventilation systems, cooling refrigeration systems. But a does not sell directly to data center. So it's difficult to have this perception at the end. So to understand how the activity is behaving in terms of pricing. What we actually see is a very positive demand. And when we see this positive demand and talking about transformers and longer-cycle equipment. It's not such a long cycles such as T&D. But anyway, the scenario of specification is more favorable for the producers manufacturers.

André Rodrigues

executive
#20

In relation to the changes of interest infrastructure within the data centers, we have been the discussion to understand what's going on. Basically, what's happening is the migration of the electrical structure into the data center, this is something which is likely to happen in the years to come. And then there would be some demand for different pieces of equipment from the ones that we provide nowadays, one of them is the state solid transformer, which is a transformer, but it's much more likely an energy conversion. It's much more electronic than mechanic equipment as we understand the format to be nowadays. And this has some implications for products and we also see some changes in the demand of equipment. But in relation to breed and connections, this is not something that's going to change. And this is something we're studying and accompanying monitoring, but we have no visibility that any significant change will happen in the long term because this is -- this is business equipment that is in be developed by some players of the market. And it has not reached the commercial scale. And this is something that's happened is likely to happen just in the future. within some years.

Operator

operator
#21

Our next question comes from Alberto Valerio, UBS.

Alberto Valerio

analyst
#22

I Would like to congrats to you on the results -- and on the improvement quarter-on-quarter. I have 1 question on my side related to the United States tariffs. I remember that in the beginning of the year -- at the end of last year, by the way, we were talking about the 25% of the revenues that you had was divided between the productions of United States exploring Brazil. I would like to know how it stands today. And I would like to know if there has been any change in comparison. And the second one would be relating to the ramp-up of the tin factory. I'd imagine that Mexico has advanced more -- but if you could provide some details on when we could expect the revenues to start coming in, the 10% or 15% that will be ready in the middle of the year. That would help us for us to do the modeling for the end of the year. And congratulations again on the results.

André Rodrigues

executive
#23

Alberto, let me start to answer your first question, and Salgueiro will add to the second question. It's important to say that VAG is going -- is evolving in different regions. And this share tends to change along the time closer into reality is the following: Everything that is related to the revenues of -- in the United States, 33% is produced and sold in the United States by our local companies. And Brazil is -- has about 20% or 20% of all this related to something which is produced in Brazil and exported to the United States. And this used to be important, such as 2024, which would stand at 30%. So when the tariffs started, we decided to change to increase production in Mexico and also in the United States, and we can see the effect now. And Mexico is a country that is becoming ever more important in terms of supply, 41%, is produced in Mexico and exported to the United States. And other countries have -- there's more share accounting to 4%. So it shows that a longer time, the company has prepared for all those movements in order to mitigate those possible effects of the tariff. The point of the recovery of what has been taxed. We have been monitoring all the topics. We have been adopting all the measures with the competent authorities, but we do not have a time when this is going to be concluded and we'll provide you with the update.

André Salgueiro

executive
#24

In relation to Betim, in the press answer, I said that the factory is being expanded, and we are going to use the capacity, there's a tuna capacity of this factory to generate revenue, and there is going to be a ramp-up process. the machines there are very relevant. They are very large-sized equipment. So if this is something that is going to help us gradually to add to our revenue, significant achieve but we can expect more of this contribution along 2027.

Operator

operator
#25

Our next question comes from Marcelo Motta with JPMorgan. You may proceed, Marcelo. Good morning -- good morning.

Marcelo Motta

analyst
#26

I have 2 questions. The first is related to the working capital. There was a little increase in the receivables and also in the stock. I would like to understand how this happened. Okay, there are materials other to accelerate production was just an increase in raw materials. I would like to understand the lines? And also a question about CapEx. Is that an expectation that To invest, you said that is an expectation to invest more than BRL 3 billion million for this year. So I would like to understand that the BRL 3.6 billion are the amounts that are going to be invested for this year? Or is it going to be use also next year.

André Rodrigues

executive
#27

Well, in relation to working capital, it's important to say that depending on the quarter, and if this can influence the accounts receivable and also inventory levels. We have had more share of long-cycle products in the production cycle. So we need more inventory in transit. So we may have an increase in inventories, and this can show changes quarter-on-quarter. But we look in the long term, and we per the inventory levels, we said there's nothing changed. We see that we are at the same level that we have been seeing in the last quarters.

André Salgueiro

executive
#28

Motta in relation to CapEx, we announced the capital budget of BRL 3.6 billion, and it's still valid. When we look at the half of the year, we have already completed BRL 1.4 billion. There has been an acceleration, and this historically happens and there is a level of seasonality and the capital is more concentrated in the second half of the year. So we continue with the initial plan. In addition to all the investments in the that we have mentioned in Whose investments are going to be completed this year and next year. In addition to that, we have other investments that are going to happen in Brazil, such as in [indiscernible] taxi, we announced some investments in automation, but also the best factory that will start also to demand CapEx from this year. And also in Gameiom large-sized equipment will also start to require more CapEx along the year. And in addition to modernization expansions that always happen on the plan plants such as the women Ligaspirit center. And when we look abroad, we have Mexico that concentrates a very important part of this investment, especially in paint and furnishes that we have already almost completed there, and now there is an investment of T&D that's going to be completed in the beginning of next year and high-voltage equipment in China that has to be considered that will happen this year. We also have estimates in Turkey, and we also have some investments of T&D in the United States and Colombia. So we continue with all the planning going on. And I would like to stress the vision of the opportunities that the company is always looking out for the years to come, and we are getting ready to be apt to use all those growth opportunities along the next years.

Operator

operator
#29

Next question comes from Rogerio Araujo from Bank of America.

Rogério Araújo

analyst
#30

Congratulations on the results. I have 2 questions on my side. One is to approach the moving parts that impact margin? Some of that have already been discussed. But just to confirm, the reduction of tariffs from 50% to 10%. can you say how much it was -- it affected the quarter. because I understand there is a time that has to elapse in order to -- has it happened half of the quarter more or less, this is 1 of the points. And the second is related to margin. about the pass-through of prices. You've mentioned that you would pass through the increase of copper, especially China but not in the United States, how much has been applied in the second quarter? And how much of carryover is still lagging, and I would also like to know about margin related to the ramp-up of new plants. Is there a lot of costs that included, especially in hiring new personnel. Is it already reflected in the second quarter? And in relation to bits, I believe that this [indiscernible] methodology tends to favor right in the beginning of production the result. So would the margin be improved as of the next quarter. And still talking about the moving parts and the margins. Is that a net effect, which is clear as you see it upwards or downwards. You mentioned the tariffs and the impact. But if we put all the moving parts together, is there a clear comment for you for the second half of the year? And my second question is related to by the U.S. transformer. We see that there was a drop of 27% year-on-year, even though there was an increase in GTD. I think this sounds like a trend for the last quarters. What could explain this anticipation of cost, anticipation of capacity, maybe a higher leverage with the expansion CapEx or anything else?

André Rodrigues

executive
#31

Rogerio, okay, let's try to get all get into all the points that you raised, which are all very pertinent. First, let's do the exercise of the tariffs, the impact that they cause on each quarter. It's always a very complex exercise. In the previous answer, I talked a little bit about the supply, what we sell to the United States. And it's not only the percentage, but it also depends on the product we are talking about. So this is a very complex exercise. So let's do a more detailed analysis of the margin. I think we can take into consideration of what happened in the second quarter of this year and compared to the first quarter, when we see an important evolution, maybe compare to what happened in the second quarter of last year. I think this is the first message the environment is extremely complicated from the geopolitical viewpoint. The supply chain are very stressed. There has been an intent price of commodities. And even so, we have been able to keep the margins at the high end stable margins. And that's the result of the work we've been doing. When we talk about the margin, we have to remember that when we compare quarter-on-quarter, there are mixes that come to play. They may impact the margin on quarter. I believe that the product mix continues to be favorable to us. Sage dynamics of long cycle equipment, which is very positive, and it helps in this regard, and the contribution of renewables that also impact the process. And when we talk of the comparisons of the first quarter of this year, it's important to mention that the growth of the revenue and how it came about improves the absorption of fixed costs, especially those related to personnel. The price through also helps us in this process and also the reductions that happened in the tariffs also helped and a lower volatility of the FX rate in the short term. These are all welcome. And when we talk about the period -- the same period of the previous year and we see some effects that repeated in relation to the first quarter that we have already explained. We could also mention the increase in personnel expenses, which was driven by the large number of employees, which was related to ramp-up of the transformer factories. We have to hire and train people before production stock. And of course, this is a process is going to grow the number of transformers will grow. And transformers especially the large ones you have to do in line, and you start pricing and then the production comes as a sequence. And as we increase the production capacity, cost will increase. And also, we have to consider the increase of price of raw materials, especially copper, and also talking about the United States, we also have mentioned that there has an impact of the to 232, especially on transformers that come -- go from Mexico to the United States and the tariff increased. So the point of the United States is more focused on the increase of tariffs related to the 232. But as a reminder, what we're delivering this year are contracts that we developed that we completed some years ago where when we didn't have any device developed of who would be responsible for the tariffs and also considering all the cost increases that impact all the situation.

Rogério Araújo

analyst
#32

Could you let us know when SP138348726 When the deliveries of transformers of Mexico and the United States. -- when do they start to have that clause of tariff pass-through, when this is going to materialize and when the effect will stop happening. And talking about the transformers, please.

André Rodrigues

executive
#33

When the tariff is started, being applied. The close started also to be applied. I think we are going to continue using those instructions with the clients still this year and still in the beginning of next year. This is the impact that we see of the 232. And also, there was an increase the increasing price of some raw materials, the prices are rising.

Rogério Araújo

analyst
#34

I thought we were talking about margin but it also impacts the U.S. transformer .

Operator

operator
#35

Now continuing the next question comes from Daniel Gasparete with Itau.

Daniel Gasparete

analyst
#36

I have 2 questions on my side. The first 1 is to understand your perception in relation to the growth expectation in last call, we ask if that visibility of 10% above the digits that you were imagining in the beginning would be maintained. You said because of the FX fluctuations, it was more difficult to reach. I would like to know if the perception changed or is maintained for the domestic and international market, how do you see all this. And my second question is a bit more for the medium term. We always say that the grows a lot in environmental crisis, even though we do not have an economic crisis, we have a lot of volatility at play. So we would like to understand how we see the environment, the competitive environment with capacity to gain share. Do you see the clients as we saw in the pandemic looking for other opportunities? How do you see this current environment?

André Rodrigues

executive
#37

Gasparete, thank you. In relating to growth potential that we have to reinforce we are growing in the international market. and also in the local areas. And we -- what we delivered in terms of growth in the international market in the First quarter and second quarter was totally in line with the initial expectation of growth of about 2 digits. As a reminder, we grew in the second quarter in the local currency of 1.8%, 14.7% in dollars. And what has been becoming an obstacle and when we talk about the expectation in terms of profile and what would happen in the first in the second quarter is what has actually happened in relation to the comparison there basis for the solar area. So now we are going to start in a more fair basis of comparisons and the FX fluctuations that is something we cannot control. We have a budget that is [ BRL 559 million ] in terms of FX.

Daniel Gasparete

analyst
#38

And what happened to effect today? Is it going to maintain at 5.5%. .

André Rodrigues

executive
#39

So we moved from [ BRL 559 million ] that we considered in its process to [ BRL 558 million, ] and this is an appreciation of the value, which is close to 9%. So from the dynamic of viewpoint -- the viewpoint of business. We are showing that we are using good opportunities, and Salguire also mentioned that electric mobility starts to become something relevant to the company. Obviously, the sizes are different when compared to motors, but it has been showing along the years both in terms of recharge stations and other areas important business for the company. And we are always providing updates on new businesses that are coming up as we see them as good opportunities. And the main message that we'd like to give is that just as we did with transformers, we understood the moments beforehand, and we got prepared for that. Increasing capacity not only for transformers, but also energy storage and also large-size rotating machines. And in all those cases, we have already started way ahead with investments in order to prepare veg for those demands, which we believe to be very positive and somehow, they are already materializing the company, and they are going to become ever bigger. So I believe that the message that I would like to give you is that we were impacted by the FX fluctuations, but abroad, we continue growing. There is order intake, which is very favorable, and that provides support to everything that we had in the beginning of the year. At the end of last year. And we will have to live with more appreciated FX rate and will generate pure real and less growth in relation to the expectations we had in the beginning of the year.

André Salgueiro

executive
#40

Gasparage in relation to the second point you mentioned, the possibility of growing in moments of crisis. We are working here in order to be prepared to grow in any environment. Obviously, when we consider the business model that we always mention where we have different competitive advantages such as partialization market is positive as we see nowadays. As Andre mentioned, we see that the performance has been very solid, especially in the intelligent market in terms of demand. And we also saw some recovery in the industrial area in Brazil. So we see a lot of growth opportunities, and we are prepared considering all the investments that we have been making in the last few years so that we can have the level of competitiveness and the adequate portfolio in order to take part and use all those opportunities. What we can say is that in spite of all those geopolitical issues, complex and tariff, we see that we are in industrial industry, which is very heated and with high demand for our products. and we observe this, especially when we see the backlog intake and the order intake, especially in GTD and no. We are not only talking about T&D, but we're also talking about the Marathe alternators. As we have been mentioning for some time, we have some positive visibility for the future. So we keep on working in order to take all those opportunities.

Operator

operator
#41

Our next question comes from Lucas Marquiori BTG Pactual.

Lucas Marquiori

analyst
#42

Two points I would like to mention very quickly. First, about product mix. So that I can understand the margin dynamics. Could you talk about the breakdown of long and short cycles. And if in the short cycle, you saw an improvement in margin quarter-on-quarter, first quarter to quarter, saw the construction margin, the transformer margin. I would like to understand if there was any relevant improvement that will be worth mentioning for the short cycle that could comment in the domestic after GTD 1 year of the phaseout of renewable. So tell me what is the new base of growth. Could you provide a breakdown of what is GTD, what's renewable, what is still related to solar so that we can understand.

André Rodrigues

executive
#43

Lucas, I'm going to answer the first question. You asked how we break down the revenues between long and short cycles in the second quarter. Short cycle, we accounted for 61% and 39% for the long cycle. This center has been very a long time and here also, sometimes you ask. So GTD is going to become ever more relevant to WEG. Of course, when we look at the investments that we have been making, It may be like this, but we cannot forget that the other businesses also grow. It's not only due to do that this is happening. Let me be more precise. In fact, this T&D this quarter specifically, and also for long cycle was even higher than 39% there's a bigger share of low-voltage electric motors. This is something where we continue growing. And the good performance of the sales of automators that we acquired from Marathon. And we can see excellent opportunities for growth for the company and also for other companies. where we are devoting time and resources in order to continue growing. In relation to Pricing of all this, especially for the short cycle. Yes, this has been very positive, especially in the last few months. In case of TD Brazil, in fact, we anticipated we are completing in the middle of the year. with the stronger comparison base that we had last year when we talk about centralized deliveries, there is still a remainder for the third quarter, but it's less relevant than what we saw in the first and the second quarter of last year.

Lucas Marquiori

analyst
#44

And after this effect has been adjusted, we are likely to see GTD Brazil growing, why?

André Rodrigues

executive
#45

Because T&D, which still continues growing at 2-digit pace. And there is a remainder of solar related to the plant. -- kits. We have also seen some growth, and then we have also to include other businesses related to energy, but that will depend on energy. But through energy will also contribute. And maybe because in fact of the solar, it may not be as significant in the third quarter, but it's likely to grow along the next quarters.

Operator

operator
#46

Our next question comes from Daniel Federle with Bradesco BBI.

Daniel Federle

analyst
#47

Congratulations on the results, and -- my first is relating to mix as well. You mentioned that 1 of the drivers was related to mix. I would like to understand how you qualify the mix of the second quarter? Is it a mix of average? Is it going to get worse? Is it a mix in line with average and it's like be maintained. This is my first question. And for the second quarter, we see some margin pressures from tariffs with margins of tariffs from 25% to 37% and some hires in Mexico. What are the positive drivers that you see that will increase the margin for this period and the second question is relation to best. What are the expectations of the company did the auction increase the size. And you mentioned that there's an expectation of capturing 20%. I would like to know if it's still positive. And it seems that international companies are being attracted to Brazil. And how do you see of this capacity of best in Brazil?

André Rodrigues

executive
#48

In relation to mix, we have been commenting that the mix has been very favorable in the last quarters, especially due to the reduction of renewables. So we had a significant reduction last year of the wind energy and this half of the year, there was a reduction of the solar and the margin is a little below the average margin of the company. And since we have a positive performance, especially for long cycles, T&D has been performing well, and we saw an improvement in the industrial dimension. We can say that the mix has been very positive. And if we compare with the recent past, when the was much bigger for renewables, it's above the average compared to the recent past.

André Salgueiro

executive
#49

Now talking about BESS, thank you very much for the question. Without a doubt, we have good prospects, and as we said, we are getting ready in order to take part in the business. Generally speaking, for everything that is BESS, we have a gigawatt hour of capacity which is divided by mobility in BESS, and the new factory in Tajai, which is going to be completed next year, we'll add 2 gigawatts in this process. So it's another example that we are getting ready and structured in order to meet the demand of the market. And since we are a partner of clients, everything that involves energy, without a doubt, we can have some positive attributes for this process. When clients are selecting the supplier of the solution of energy storage for them. A reminder, it's not just the store, but also the whole infrastructure behind all this. And WEG manufacturers nearly everything. It's very comfortable to talk just 1 supplier that all to multiple suppliers that is not structured for this process. The fact that we are attracting more manufacturers is very positive, very good news because it shows that tax perspective is that new opportunities will come up. If nobody had come to us, we would imagine that good business opportunities wouldn't happen. We see this as something very positive. We see that our expectations have been confirmed, and everybody is at the same level of competition. we see a scenario in a very competitive way positive way. Now going back to the pressure of margin. You mentioned the downside of the impacts -- negative impacts that may happen. What we see on the other hand, we see an increase of the acceleration of the revenue growth, which tends to be very positive profitability. And as you said, we have the ramp-up of the factory in Mexico may be a problem. But we have the expansion of Bateen factory. So theoretically, this is going to help us along the second half of the year. And we also made all the movement related to prices and adjustments of the commercial strategy along the first half of the year. So we will have this contribution seen along the second half of the year.

Operator

operator
#50

This concludes our question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the call over to Andre Rodrigues for his closing remarks. And please go ahead.

André Rodrigues

executive
#51

Thank you very much for your participation. On our side, we'd like to reinforce the invitation to take part on our WEG Day, which will take place on October. It will be a great opportunity for you to get updates on the opportunities at WEG. Thank you. very much. I hope you have an excellent day.

Operator

operator
#52

This concludes the conference call. 8 We thank everyone and have an excellent day, everyone.

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