WH Group Limited (288) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

March 24, 2026

SEHK HK Consumer Staples Food Products earnings 77 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#1

[Interpreted] Dear analysts and investors, good evening. Welcome to our annual results announcement by WH Group. Today, we have with us Mr. Wan Long, Chairman and Executive Director, and he is seated on the stage with us. Next to him, we also have Mr. Guo Lijun, our Executive Director and CEO; our CFO and Vice President, Madam Yan Kam Yin. I'm Zhou Xiaoming, VP. We also have online with us our leaders Mr. Wan Hongwei, Vice Chairman of the Group; Mr. Ma Xiangjie, Mr. James Smith and Luis and Mark. We will first listen to the introduction of our performance in 2025, and then we will proceed to Q&A session. First of all, Mr. Guo, please take us through the financial situation and business review.

Lijun Guo

executive
#2

[Interpreted] Good evening, everyone. I'm going to take you through the financial summary, business review of 2025. Packaged meats sold 3.054 million tonnes, a drop of 1.5%; pork sold 4.089 million tonnes, an increase of 8.6%. Revenue realized USD 28.026 billion, up 8%; EBITDA, $3.377 billion, up 9.7%; operating profit, $2.612 billion, up 8.7%; profit before tax, $2.5 billion, up 13.2%; profit attributable to owners of the company, $1.591 billion, up 8.2%. Basic earnings per share, USD 0.124. Based on our operating performance and cash flow for the year to better make returns to our shareholders, we have decided that we are going to propose a final dividend of HKD 0.41 together with interim dividend HKD 0.2, for the full year HKD 0.61, total payout, HKD 1 billion, and they will be distributed after the shareholders' meeting. If you look at our segment performance, packaged meat is still our core, contributing 50.6% of revenue and 82% of our profit. Pork contribution, 40% to revenue and 22% to our profit. Others, 8.8% and 4.1%, respectively. And North America contribution 54.3% to our revenue, 53% to our profit. China business contribution, 30% to our revenue and 35% to our profit. Europe contribution 15.4% and 10.9%, respectively. Over the year of 2025, we maintained cash -- operating cash flow at $2.526 billion with a declining CapEx at $611 million, down by 13.6%. Shareholder return, [ 320 ] -- the proposed level for the full year, $0.61, so that will exceed USD 1 billion payout. We have also maintained a conservative leverage level and debt level towards the end of the year, $3.633 billion as our total borrowing, and total debt-to-equity ratio, 0.28%. The global economy demonstrated resilience and escalating trade tensions and policy uncertainties with divergent trends across different regions. Chinese hog market was characterized by strong supply and weaker demand, leading to lower hog prices. Effective demand for consumer goods was insufficient. Hog prices in North America rebounded and market spreads narrowed. Profit of hog production improved, while the fresh meat and packaged meat business faced cost pressures. In the European market, hog prices declined due to animal diseases, war and export restrictions. We leveraged our global platform and vertically integrated business model, optimized our business structure, promoted efficiency improvement and cost control, leading to improvement in all key operating metrics and record high profits. The number of slaughtered hogs in China increased by 2.4% to 720 million heads. By the end of the year, hog inventory in China was 430 million heads, up 0.5% over the end of 2024. So the volume came up with the prices coming down. Number of slaughtered hogs in the U.S. decreased by 0.8% to 127 million heads. Average hog price per kilo, USD 1.57 in the United States and EUR 1.46 per kilo in Europe, down by 8.5%. So hog prices in China and U.S., both -- China and Europe both went down. If you look at the spread in the market, average pork cutout value in the U.S. was USD 2.27 per kilo, an increase of 7.4%. Meat prices went up by 7.4% and industry market spread narrowed as hog prices increased more than pork values. Operating profit, USD 934 million in China, down by 1%; packaged meat, $191 million, down by 3.6%; pork, $44 million, down by 20%. We implemented various innovative measures, continue to enhance performance of underperforming segments, expanded sales network and optimized product mix amid a challenging market environment. Our total meat sales volume reached a record high, while profit remained stable. We have innovative marketing strategies and accelerated channel transformation, driving rapid sales growth in emerging channels. Profit per ton remained strong. We adhere to the strategy of stabilizing profit and expanding volume for pork business. We expand customer base and sales channels, resulting in increase in sales volume. We continue to increase volume of chicken produced and processed, adjusted product mix and expanded sales network for poultry business. We accelerated digital transformation to drive upgrades and management across operations, sales, hog production, administration and R&D. For North America operating profit, USD 1.393 billion, up 17.4%; packaged meat, $1.097 billion, down by 6.6%; pork, $444 million, up 161.2%. We capitalized on favorable market opportunities, leveraged vertically integrated business model, optimized operational management and implemented cost saving and efficiency enhancing measures, resulting in high record earnings. For packaged meats, total sales volume remained stable, supported by diversified product portfolio and channel mix, while high-margin products continue to deliver growth. We continue to improve mix, adjust price and control costs to absorb the pressure of rising raw material cost. For pork business, profit improved significantly, driven by the hog production segment that capitalized on favorable market conditions, improved performance indicators and lowered hog raising cost. Fresh meat business enhanced operational efficiency, reduced expenses and optimized product and channel mix. We continue to improve KPIs of hog production, reduce costs, increase efficiency and strives to achieve a competitive cost structure. For Europe business, operating profit, $285 million, up 4%; packaged meat, $155 million, up 14%; pork business, $90 million, down by 31.3%. We leveraged the strength of our business model to counter market fluctuations, focused on the development of packaged meat business, pursued synergistic M&A, leading to sustained growth in volume and profit. We expanded the scale product offering and geographic footprint of packaged meat by integrating newly acquired operations. We adhere to the strategy of improving mix, adjusting price and controlling cost. For pork business, we leveraged the vertically integrated business model. Profits of the segment improved significantly, mitigating the impact of declined hog prices. The poultry business achieved growth in both volume and profit by improving management and expanding sales network, seizing market opportunities and controlling cost. We focused on the packaged meat segment expanded our supporting business and strengthened business footprint and successfully acquired People Foods from Poland and Wolf Group from Germany. WH Group will continue to consolidate our global resources, leverage synergies, adhere to the business philosophy of improving mix, adjusting price and controlling cost and the strategy of industrialization, diversification, internationalization and digitalization to enhance our leading position. We will continue to focus on our core packaged meat business to achieve steady growth in volume and profit. We respond to evolving consumer market and promote product and channel transformation in China to achieve breakthrough in sales volume. We mitigate the measures of increasing costs and drive growth in high-margin products to maintain high profit in the U.S. We continue to expand our business scale in Europe through organic growth and acquisitions, reducing our cost and improving our efficiency to increase profit. We will explore opportunities to optimize and increase the processing capacity of pork business through M&A, new construction and facility upgrade, optimize product mix and sales channels to enhance profit. We will achieve a competitive cost structure for hog production by improving the KPIs and effectively preventing and controlling diseases. We will accelerate the development of our poultry business and enhance operational performance to further advance our meat diversification strategy and achieve synergistic development through complementary businesses. That's the end of my report. Thank you very much.

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#3

Thank you, Mr. Guo. Now let's enter the Q&A session.

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#4

[Operator Instructions] Let's invite the first question from the floor.

Lillian Lou

analyst
#5

I'm from Morgan Stanley. I'm Lillian Lou. I have two questions. First of all, Mr. Guo, you talked about 2026 for packaged meat business. Mr. Wan has been paying very close attention to that and you have been making adjustments. So for this segment in China, if you look at hog prices declining continuously. So in 2026, with a rather high level of profit per ton last year, do you think you can achieve new heights this year? And concerning packaged meat business in terms of sales volume, this been suppressed by demand. So it hasn't been very strong. What about this year? What is your thinking? And then about the U.S. side, packaged meat business, as you mentioned, you would like to expand high unit price products and high profit margin products. So what is the overall thinking about 2026? And then taking one step back, Mr. Wan, the entire group is in a stabilization stage. What about the next 3 to 5 years? What would be the focal point in terms of return to shareholders? What is your plan?

Unknown Executive

executive
#6

[Foreign Language] So the question came from Lillian of Morgan Stanley. The first part relates to the packaged meats. As Mr. Guo mentioned that packaged meats is a strategic priority for WH Group. With respect to China, given the relatively low raw material cost, in light of the strong profit per metric ton performance in 2025, is there an opportunity to achieve even higher profit per metric ton in China for 2026? And also, the volume of China packaged meats has been under pressure due to the demand in the market. And how should investors look at the demand for the volume for 2026? And with respect to the U.S. packaged meats, Shane, Mark, I will defer to you to answer this part. As we mentioned, we will promote more high unit cost, high-margin products. And what's the outlook for U.S. packaged meats, I guess, in terms of volume and profitability going forward? And the second question for Chairman Wan, what will be the company's strategic priority in the next 3 to 5 years? And what will be the shareholder return look like in the future?

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#7

So Shuanghui leaders, can you talk about the packaged meat business? Can we connect them?

Xiangjie Ma

executive
#8

Good evening. I'm Ma Xiangjie from Shuanghui. I'm joining online. Concerning the first question about packaged meat. In 2026, the hog prices have been dropping. So concerning our strategies...

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#9

Mr. Ma, I think you are too far from the mic. You are being cut off. You better start from scratch again.

Xiangjie Ma

executive
#10

How about now?

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#11

It's better.

Xiangjie Ma

executive
#12

I will answer the first question concerning about packaged meat business. [Foreign Language] Response from Mr. Ma, CEO of Shuanghui on China packaged meats. Based on our latest observation in the market, the recovery of the demand is not very obvious and the competition remain very strong. So in 2026, our strategy for China packaged meats is to balance volume and profitability with a focus -- slight focus on volumes. So consistent with this strategy, our priority will be to expand market shares to step up our investment in marketing, in innovations, which means that we expect our volume will grow, but profit per metric ton may have a slight decline compared to 2025, but will remain at a very high level, probably the second highest in the company's -- in the context of the historical profit per ton. So the second part relates to U.S. packaged meats, I will defer to Shane and Mark.

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#13

Shane and Mark, can you hear us?

Shane Smith

executive
#14

Yes, we can hear you. Can you hear us?

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#15

It will be great -- it will be better if you can get closer to the mic.

Shane Smith

executive
#16

Okay. Can you hear us now?

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#17

Yes, yes.

Shane Smith

executive
#18

Okay. All right. Thank you, Lillian, and thank you, Xiaoming. So Lillian, packaged meats continues to be the earnings driver of the North American business. And this 2025 was the fourth consecutive year where we had achieved over $1 billion of segment profit. From a volume standpoint, we were up in 6 of the 10 $1 billion-plus categories that we operate in. We saw in our foodservice channel, we saw sales increase by 10% in fiscal 2025. But we also saw volume increases in that channel as well, which was up by about 2%. Xiaoming, I'll let you translate that, and then I'll continue.

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#19

[Foreign Language]

Shane Smith

executive
#20

Again in 6 out of 10 of those $1 billion categories. But more importantly, that includes the higher-margin categories like daily meat, packaged lunch meat and dry sausage. So we grew dollar and unit share in 2025. And we also grew our points of distribution. We have 25 key categories, and we saw up -- points of distribution up about 5% for the full year. That was really led by performance in our prime Fresh. So our packaged meats, we feel really strong about going into 2026. We will be exercising more along the lines of advertising and promotion to promote brand growth. But we are aware in North America, we still were operating with a very cautious consumer, a very cautious spending environment. But we think we have the right strategies in place to see both volume and profitability growth in 2026.

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#21

[Foreign Language] Thank you, Shane.

Long Wan

executive
#22

[Interpreted] so in response to your second question related to the company strategies, we have the four-pronged strategies with four themes: industrialization, diversification, globalization and digitalization. Specifically for industrialization, it means we realized the full benefits from a vertically integrated business model to achieve the synergies from the upstream, downstream -- between the upstream, midstream and downstream. In hog production, in U.S., we are reducing our capacities. In China and in Europe, there is a slight increase. And for fresh pork and packaged meats, we'll maintain their steady growth. We want to achieve the optimal balance between the different businesses to maximize the synergies. And secondly, diversification, it means we will -- while we continue to focus the meat processing business, we will continue to diversify -- while we continue to grow the pork business, we'll also diversify into poultry and beef as opportunities arise. And thirdly, in terms of globalization, because we are a multinational company, we have a lot of synergies between different parts of our business. So through various trading opportunities, we want to achieve synergies between our business subsidiaries. In terms of digitalization, we aim to use new technologies to improve our business management to use artificial intelligence, robots to replace some existing processes to improve efficiency, improve productivity and use these new technologies to transform our traditional meat processing industry. And to execute on this strategy, we will have three priorities. First priority is that for our existing pork, poultry and packaged meat business, we will focus on the core existing business, expand their volumes. In the last couple of years, we have some pressures and declines in the volume of our business, and we will focus on recover the volume growth in China and the U.S. And secondly, in terms of technology, we will introduce more technologies to improve the process efficiency, to reduce cost and expenses. And thirdly, in terms of acquisitions, we will selectively identify and execute acquisitions in pork, poultry and beef to further strengthen -- expand our scale and strengthen our business portfolio. In terms of shareholder return, as you know, our dividend policy is that no less than 50% of the profit attributable to owners of the company. And as we -- we obviously will continue to adhere to our shareholder dividend policies. And as you see -- as you have seen, in the last couple of years, we have made some reorganizations, including the IPO of Smithfield and the separation of Morliny Foods from Smithfield. And after these restructurings, all these subsidiaries performed very well, and we are also confident about the outlook. For 2026, we have very good plans for volume, for revenue as well as the profit. And we are confident in our ability to deliver shareholder returns in 2026 and going forward. So that's all from Chairman.

Chen Luo

analyst
#23

[Interpreted] So Shane, Mark, two questions from BofA Research, Luo Chen, and they're all related to the U.S. business. The first is on U.S. hog production. It looks like the 2025 hog production profit per head was $18, which is one of the highest in the recent history. And in your previous guidance you have guided hog production profit of $125 million to $150 million. But in the final results, it was $200 million, which has far exceeded the guidance. And in light of the recent conflicts in Middle East and the rising of crude oil and other commodities -- commodity prices, how will these higher raw material price impact the hog production business in the U.S. in 2026, such as the feed, the hogs? And how will that impact our profit per head in hog production? And given our hedging strategies and how much visibility we have for 2026 hog production? And secondly, related to the recent Senate bill on the meat business. And the part obviously talked about the separation of different animal proteins, but also talked about the foreign investment in the U.S. meat industry. What's the possibility that the bill will be passed by the U.S. Congress and how long it will take for this to become a law? And what will be the impact of this bill? And what measures is the company taking to address this potential risk?

Shane Smith

executive
#24

To the first question, U.S. hog production had a fantastic 2025. And I think you quoted a number that was $200 million. It was actually $176 million is where we finished the year. And that's really a reflection of both improved operations and market conditions. Inherently in that, if you look at our raising cost, raising cost year-over-year was down 4.8%, and that was really driven by an improvement in our wean pig cost, which if you go back and reflect upon the things we've talked about from our genetic strategy to improve our wean cost, we're really seeing that come through. So that was down about 8.1% and feed cost was down about 5%. So those things combined really drove that 4.8% decrease in raising costs, coupled with a really good hog market throughout 2025 allowed us to [ post earnings ] that were the best we've had since 2014. So Xiaoming, I'll let you translate that.

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#25

[Foreign Language]

Shane Smith

executive
#26

For 2026, we are seeing some impacts from some of the things that you pointed out. So crude oil is up, which is having an impact on corn. So we've seen corn go up $0.20 to $0.30 a bushel over just the past few weeks, which will have an impact on our raising cost. We've seen diesel prices increase from $3.50 back in January to close to $5 now. So that's having an impact. But what we're focused on is making sure we're efficient. So continuing to execute the strategies that we've laid out on previous calls from the genetic side, from the feed efficiency, livability, health, all of those things that will play in. But we also use a number of hedging techniques where we are able to buy corn and soybean meal contracts and sell hogs on the futures markets to help us lock in some margin where we see opportunities. So we'll use a number of hedging techniques to help us make sure we're managing the business well. Right now, Mark, as you saw in the press release, we did lay out our guidance for next year. We think that guidance with what we know today is fully inclusive of any implications that we see on the horizon.

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#27

[Foreign Language]

Shane Smith

executive
#28

Coming to the second question, there are a number of bills that are making their way through Congress and we're following all of those very closely. I think what's important for people to know is that when WH Group bought Smithfield, this was a CFIUS approved transaction. Smithfield has been here for 90 years. Coming back to the U.S. stock market back in January provides an additional level of transparency to all stakeholders to let us -- to let them know who we are and how we operate. So we don't -- while we're following those closely, we're concerned from a standpoint of seeing where this goes. I think the merits of Smithfield, how we operate, our relationship with WH Group will stand up to any scrutiny we get. I'll let you translate that, and I'll talk about a couple of other things.

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#29

[Foreign Language]

Shane Smith

executive
#30

Smithfield is subject to the same laws and regulations that all American businesses are. And I think what's important again for people to understand is, as a company, we partner with thousands of independent American farmers from our facilities across 39 U.S. communities and across 18 states. We pay, on average, about $2.2 billion in wages to over 32,000 U.S. employees. We've made hundreds of millions of dollars of philanthropic contribution to all of the local communities that we operate in. We've recently announced an investment in Sioux Falls, South Dakota that will be one of the largest investments in American agriculture ever. So we are investing in the U.S. And I think as that fact pattern becomes more talked about and more recognized, it really positions Smithfield well as really contributing to the U.S. agricultural economy.

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#31

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#32

[Interpreted] So two questions from the UBS. The first one on China's hog price. What will be the outlook of hog price for 2026? Given the recent unexpected sharp decline, there is some speculation that some more capacity will exit the industry, which will force the price to bottom out. So what's the outlook from Shuanghui? And secondly, on Europe, as mentioned, there are a lot of uncertainties in the economy in the commodity prices as a result of the recent events. So how will that impact the cost structure for the European business?

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#33

So Luis, maybe we'll defer to you after Xiangjie answer the first part. [Foreign Language]

Xiangjie Ma

executive
#34

[Interpreted] So this is Shuanghui CEO, Mr. Ma. With respect to the outlook of hog price in China, based on the information we have, we believe we are of the view that the average price in 2026 will be lower than 2025, approximately 10% lower. And we believe the price in the first half will be lower, and there will be some recovery in the second half. And we do not believe the recent sharp decline in hog prices will force a lot of capacity to exit the market because currently there are a lot of large industrialized hog producers in China. So the short-term fluctuations in hog prices will not impact their overall capacity strategies. So we do not believe the hog price recovery will be very steep.

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#35

Luis, maybe you want to take the second question relates to Europe cost structure.

Luis Cerdan

executive
#36

Thanks, Xiaoming. Related to the impact of the Iran war in our business in Europe, we already see the increase in prices in fuel, gas and electricity. We have some coverage for the year, but the impact in our cost will depend on the duration of the actual situation in Middle East. We can see in medium term some increase in grain costs but we have some positions in the grain cost. And like we were doing in the past with energy crisis and inflation crisis after the Ukraine war start, we have measurements to mitigate this potential inflation situation with commercial action, mix optimization and productivity programs and efficiency programs that we were investing during the last years to try to optimize the energy use in all our manufacturing plants. Thank you.

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#37

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#38

[Interpreted] So two questions, both related to China business. First is given the assumption that the hog prices will continue to be depressed in 2026, how will that impact the hog production and fresh pork business in China in 2026? And secondly, the packaged meat profit per ton has a small decline in the fourth quarter '25, whereas the volume has been flat. And the company has a good outlook for packaged meat volume in '26. And what's the latest progress in terms of the various measures have taken in terms of products and channels.

Unknown Executive

executive
#39

[Interpreted] With respect to hog production and fresh pork. For fresh pork, currently, the China market is still very fragmented. There are more than 5,000 players. And for the top 10 -- for the top players, the market share, the combined market share is less than 10%. So in the next few years, there will be consolidation of fresh pork in China. So we want to take advantage of lower hog prices to expand our market shares. So with this idea in mind, we will not be too fixed on the profit per head, and we will try to expand our scale while maintaining a moderate level of profitability. For hog production, it's still a relatively underperforming business of Shuanghui. In 2025, it was loss-making. In 2026, we expect the raising cost will decline, but the hog price will also decline. So we will continue to -- it likely will continue to incur loss, but the loss will narrow. And in the future, we may also opportunistically expand the scale of hog production, but not in a capital-intensive way. We'll partner with other hog producers to lock in the hog supplies, to support our fresh pork and package business to enhance the competitiveness of our overall business platform.

Unknown Executive

executive
#40

[Interpreted] So this -- the response on the packaged meats from Shuanghui Vice President, Mr. [ Zhao ] responsible for packaged meat business. Last year, if we look at the packaged meats volume by quarter, the first quarter was weak. The second quarter and third quarter stabilized. And in fourth quarter, we recorded a moderate or small growth. In 2026, our outlook is that the growth will be more meaningful for the following 5 reasons. Number one, we have seen a sequential improvement quarter-by-quarter in 2025 because we have made a lot of reforms, for example, in professionalized or specialize our sales force and the effect of these reforms are taking effect -- are being realized gradually over time. And secondly, we are encouraged by the strong growth in the new channels, which has achieved more than 30% year-over-year growth in 2025 with 25% share of our overall mix. And its performance was also improving quarter-over-quarter in '25. And thirdly, in light of the K-shaped consumption pattern in the market, we have launched high value for money products, which has exhibited strong growth momentum in 2025. And number four, we are also increasing our efforts in digitalizing our marketing and -- which will help us to have a more precise marketing strategy executions and to have a better effect in the overall marketing. And thirdly (sic) [ fifth ], we have also a lot of innovations in our channels. We have launched some pilot programs, which have achieved encouraging results, and we will continue to have a very accurate and a forceful support of different markets based on their local conditions. And with all these factors considered, we are confident in the meaningful growth in packaged mix volumes in 2026, and we hope that will also be reflected in the quarterly results that will be announced in a couple of weeks. [Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#41

[Interpreted] Shane, Mark, two questions from CICC on the U.S. business. First relates to the U.S. hog production. We have noticed a significant decline in volumes compared to 2024, which was consistent with our hog production capacity rationalization. And what's the latest progress in the capacity rationalization? And what's the kind of target or plans going forward for hog production capacity? And secondly, relates to the U.S. packaged meats, we noticed the decline in profit per metric tons in '25, primarily driven by the high raw material cost. And what's the latest outlook for packaged meats in '26, both profit and volume?

Shane Smith

executive
#42

Okay. Xiaoming, I'll take the first one, and then Mark can take the second one. So as it relates to hog production, in 2025, we produced 1.1 million hogs internally. That's down from about 17.6 million at the high of 2019 and down from the 14.6 million that we produced in 2024. And that all was part of our overall rationalization process. We do expect, as we look at 2026, that we'll be up slightly above that 11.1 million really due to two things. One is productivity increases. As we've invested in genetics and health, we're seeing some productivity growth. And then second, keep in mind, there's -- for us in our fiscal year, there's a 53rd week in 2026. But I would tell you, over the medium term, we're still targeting a reduction in our overall hog production capacity to 10 million hogs, roughly 10 million hogs, and that would be about 30% of what fresh pork needs. And again, we think that this is the optimal balance to keep that assured supply coming into the plants, but also balancing that with the overall cost risk commodity management or commodity side risk management. So we'll continue over the medium term to work toward that 10 million and 30%. But again, as we look at -- as we sit today and looking at 2026, we do expect it to be up slightly, again, due to those productivity increases that are coming from our current internal production and from that 53rd week that we'll see in 2026. Xiaoming, I'll let you translate, and then I'll hand it to Mark to talk to the packaged meats question.

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#43

[Foreign Language]

Mark Hall

executive
#44

On the packaged meats question, you're correct. We did experience significantly higher raw material markets in 2025 to the tune of about $525 million, which we were able to successfully offset a portion of through price and mix improvements, but certainly had an impact in terms of pressuring our margins per metric ton. We do anticipate some relief in the raw material markets as we move into 2026, but we're still faced with a very cautious consumer with high rates of inflation in the U.S. And so what we saw in 2025 is expected to continue as we start 2026 with that cautious consumer trading down across the branded portfolio and in some cases, into private label. But again, that really speaks to the strength of Smithfield's brands -- with brands that meet that consumer where they are within their pricing constraints. And then we do have about 40% of our business in retail and private label. So if they are trading out of branded and into private label, they're likely picking up a product that is produced by Smithfield. We'll continue to focus on improving our mix and moving away from that more commoditized offering. So think of the seasonal ham business and into everyday use occasions of our private -- excuse me, our packaged meats business at a higher margin. I'd say the long-term algorithm is still intact for the packaged meats business, which includes continuing to improve that mix and improving the profitability in total and on a per metric ton basis. It's just really attributed to that cautious consumer right now.

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#45

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#46

[Interpreted] So the question from JPMorgan on the European business. So in the last couple of years, European business or Morliny has made a couple of acquisitions to expand the footprint and are trying to build a platform as scalable as Shuanghui or Smithfield, but obviously, still relatively small. But apart from these acquisitions, what's the organic growth in Morliny? And what's the constraints for the organic growth in European markets? And also what's the group's overall strategy going forward for Europe?

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#47

Luis, you may want to take a first step.

Luis Cerdan

executive
#48

Yes. Thank you for the question. The organic growth in the last year, we were growing 5% in our fresh pork business and 7% in our poultry business in volume. And in our packaged meat business, we have a small decline of volumes and the inorganic growth was giving us a total growth of 3%. I mean that still we are growing, like Chairman was mentioning in our strategy in our poultry business. In our packaged meat business, we are growing to organically through investing in some of the categories that we believe are future categories for us like ready meals, convenience food. And through M&As in the future, and I was mentioning in the last calls, our main strategy still is packaged meat business in Europe, poultry business and some areas like pet food that we have some acquisitions that still we have some possibilities to grow in the European market. Thank you.

Zhou Xiaoming

executive
#49

[Foreign Language] Thank you. [Portions of this transcript that are marked [Interpreted] were spoken by an interpreter present on the live call.]

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