WideOpenWest, Inc. (WOW) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

March 9, 2022

New York Stock Exchange US Communication Services Media conference_presentation 23 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#1

Good afternoon, everybody. My name is Brandon Nispel, I cover communication services for KeyBanc. This is a 25-minute fireside chat. Very pleased to have WideOpenWest, Teresa Elder, CEO; and John Rego, the CFO. Thank you for coming.

Teresa Elder

executive
#2

Thanks for having us.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#3

I guess let's just start at a high level, give us an overview of WOW! and sort of the transformation journey you guys have been on over the last couple of years.

Teresa Elder

executive
#4

Great. Happy to. I'd love talk to about it. WOW! is a broadband company that is headquartered in Denver but doesn't have operations there. We passed 2 million homes roughly in the Midwest and the Southeast. And we've been in business for 22 years, always as a challenger brand. And we're excited by the transformation that we've had over the last 3 years, really transforming the financials of the business to become one of the lowest-leveraged companies in the industry. We've transformed our strategy to become broadband first. And we've done a major transformation of operations as well to take us to a new level of customer experience. We're excited about it.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#5

Awesome. And to bring John in right away, tell us about the deleveraging event that you had. You recently divested 5 markets. Tell us what that did for the business and now financially where you're heading.

John Rego

executive
#6

Sure. So when I joined about 20 months ago, we had $2.3 billion of debt. We were 6x levered. Our cash interest expense was like $130 million a year, and it was really just kind of difficult to move the ball forward a little bit. So we kind of looked at our business and said, "Hey, we have 19 markets. If we sell some of these markets, we could do a massive delevering. And if we did this massive delevering, in effect, we'll have given ourselves the ability to shrink to grow the business." So that's exactly what we did. And it had a couple of interesting effects. At the time, our stock was not really trading well against our peers. So to go out and sell, which we did at 11x EBITDA, that was a valuation that was significantly higher than what we were trading at, so that was great. To go down and pay $1.5 billion of debt off and take our leverage down from 5x to 2.5x and then freeing up all of this free cash to go back in the business, that was the plan and it actually worked. We're excited about that.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#7

Awesome. Teresa, I wanted to ask you, when I started covering the company, WOW! didn't have the ability to point customers directly to an online portal with a purchase service. So I wanted to ask you about the operational improvements you've made in the business, whether it's from self-installed truck rolls, online service. Where are you and where are you steering the company to in the next couple of years?

Teresa Elder

executive
#8

Well, I love talking about this stuff because I'm an operational nerd big time. And we're so excited. When I first started, I did my own due diligence and tried our website and I was surprised anybody could buy anything online through the company. It was about 3% of our total sales. Now over 30% of our sales come from the online channel, which is also our lowest-cost channel and the preferred method for many people. Self-installs is another really big success story. We started this before the pandemic. And this is for customers who are buying high-speed data-only that they can actually self-install it themselves. We had 0% of customers who have the capability of doing that because we didn't provide them the kits to do it. We now have 78% of our high-speed data only customers doing self-install, and customers absolutely love it. And those benefits also fall right down to the bottom line of the financials. So we have many nuggets of great operational successes like that. Another one that I love is that we've gone from 5 billing systems, which does provisioning and the underlying basis for care and so many other things, down to one. Operationally, that allows a speed, agility, ease. So lots of good work has been done in the company to make sure we maintain that customer experience.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#9

And how have some of these operational improvements changed the customer experience? And how do you ultimately measure that?

Teresa Elder

executive
#10

Right. We have metrics throughout the business. We're a very data-driven company. So we manage all of these things very precisely. And the customer experience just continues to get better and better, giving customers more control and choice. We're really all about listening to our customers and really making sure we operationalize that. So for example, we don't force customers into a bundle. We listen to them. If they want to cut video cord, we offer them an array of options, whether it's streaming partners or our own IPTV service. So all of those things, I think, have continued to have us have one of the lowest churns that we've ever had as well as continuing to drive penetration and subscriber growth. And let's not forget to mention what it's done for margins and the improvements in the financials.

John Rego

executive
#11

Yes. So it's interesting as the business becomes more broadband-centric, if you will, so more broadband. And we're clearly there. At the end of the fourth quarter, 56% of our revenue was high-speed data revenue. And it has unique characteristics. High-speed data business is like a software business, the gross margins are in the high 90s. And HSD as a business drives significantly less operating cost into business than, say, a video does. And that's measured quite a bit by the calls that are coming into the care center. HSD calls are less frequent and the shorter in duration to resolve than, say, a video call is. So as the business goes through that transformation to broadband-centric, broadband most, you can see it in the financial statements. So if you go back like 8 quarters and look at the transition of EBITDA, everything is moving in the right direction now. So it's clearly kind of an interesting time.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#12

Are there other initiatives that you have in place? What's the focus for 2022 from an operating perspective in some of these initiatives?

Teresa Elder

executive
#13

Of course, we always have lots of aspirations and things on our plate. I know we're going to get to greenfield because we can't wait to talk about that. But operationally, within the business, we're also rolling out more tools for online account management and customers having the capability of getting the information they want when they want it, easily. Online chat has become a bigger part of our care business going from 0% to -- over 30% of our inbound care requests are going through online chat. All of those things are just empowering our customers more. So yes, we have lots going on.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#14

Okay. Let's talk about the growth strategy, I guess. In my mind, the company really has sort of 2 avenues to grow, right, grow within your footprint organically and through greenfield and Edge-Outs, so maybe outline those for us.

Teresa Elder

executive
#15

Absolutely. So one of the great reasons we did this deleveraging was to give us the ability to fund that growth through our free cash flow. So this year, we're so excited that we have already announced 2 new markets for greenfield. And greenfield to us is launching new markets that are not adjacent to our existing properties. That's Edge-Outs that are adjacent. We've been doing that for probably 15 years. In fact, I can remember coming to conferences like this and having to define what that is, but now kind of everybody is doing it. But greenfield markets, we have announced 100,000 new homes passed that we're launching in 2 counties in Florida. We're very excited to grow into markets that have the kind of characteristics that we know we can really drive fast penetration and be very successful and offer customers a choice and an alternative where they haven't had one before.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#16

So let's talk about, I guess, within your existing footprint. You're at about 27% penetration today. Where do you see that going in the next 3 years?

Teresa Elder

executive
#17

Yes. We believe we can get to 30% or maybe higher. And I believe that if you look at how we have been steadily growing, that is very doable. And that's an average across all of our markets. It varies by market. We have an incumbent market that is growing very steadily and actually has surpassed 50%. So we have some very high-growth markets where we have a lot of opportunity and some where we're in a great, strong position. And we grow through doing better in our organic footprint, through all the things that I've been talking about, launching new products. We also grow through Edge-Outs. We still see some opportunities for Edge-Outs off of our existing base. And we're also growing in the commercial and wholesale space. So we have some good things happening in all 3.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#18

So one of the interesting aspects of your Edge-Out -- of course, greenfield strategy is a different technology that you're utilizing in the underlying network. So I'm curious, in the cable network, in your existing footprint, what's your plan for upgrading it to DOCSIS 4.0?

Teresa Elder

executive
#19

Yes. We are absolutely on the road map to get to DOCSIS 4.0. We're already DOCSIS 3.1 in our hybrid fiber-coax, or HFC, plant. We do have a number of markets that actually are fiber-to-the-home already even within our existing footprint. It's a small amount, but we have experience in that as well. But in terms of the road to DOCSIS 4.0, we're already well on our way. The DOCSIS path has really been in the cable industry for about 20 years, always staying ahead of what the customer actually needs in terms of speed. So we already, actually last year, upgraded our customers, our loyal customers, to 200 meg as a minimum, which seems to be a popular thing to do these days. And our customers appreciated that. We also have higher upload speeds than our cable competitors, which is more than double on 500 and 1 gig.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#20

Interesting. And John, what's the investment required to get DOCSIS 4.0? How much different is it to moving the network to 3.1?

John Rego

executive
#21

Yes, it's a path. It's a journey. And it's sort of built into our long-term modeling. So it's not going to break the bank, but we're steadily doing the things we need to do. And the interesting thing about 4.0 is that some of the gear that's necessary to achieve 4.0 has not been invented yet, of course, coming to the table. So we are constantly in sort of this upgrade maintenance mode. So it's not going to be a killer.

Teresa Elder

executive
#22

And there's kind of a 3-step process, just to briefly go through that. We've launched IPTV or WOW! tv+ in 100% of our footprint. By transitioning our customers off of the legacy video of QAM network, we are reclaiming bandwidth and giving ourselves greater runway. Then you go into the next phase, which is where you do mid-splits and high splits and the DAA type of technology. Then we think that we'll start to get into that DOCSIS 4.0. We've got quite a runway ahead where we can continue to launch new speeds and do more, but we're more than satisfying all of our customers' demands today. And for our commercial customers who actually do have applications for fiber, we have that today. So we have 10G speeds for commercial customers today, should they need it.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#23

Got it. All right. Let's go into sort of the greenfield markets. You've announced 2 markets. I think it's $100 million in total CapEx, and you've talked about 100,000 new homes. Why did you pick these 2 markets?

Teresa Elder

executive
#24

We picked these markets for a wide variety of reasons. But they really have the kind of characteristics where we know we can be extremely successful, both from the demographics, from the way the plant looks, mix of aerial and underground; we also looked at our relationships with both the power companies, the regulatory bodies, a whole variety of things; but also looking at areas where we understand the competitive intensity and know that we can be very successful there and looking at business cases within our existing footprint. We know in the kind of characteristics that are in those markets, we can rapidly be very successful and offer customers value, choice, reliability and speed.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#25

And how should investors think about sort of the broader goals from an expansion standpoint over the next couple of years?

Teresa Elder

executive
#26

Well, like you said, we are having a strategy within our organic footprint as well as in the greenfield. On the greenfield, we said that we will add 200,000 homes within the next 5 years. But we have aspirations that we could even do more than that, maybe up to 400,000. And we're funding that all through free cash flow of the business. So we're not having to lever up the business again.

John Rego

executive
#27

That's the plan, from the cash we generate from the business. And by the way, just in doing the transformation and paying down as much debt as we did, just the cash interest expense alone, savings is enough to fund the CapEx that we need to do this stuff.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#28

Yes. Absolutely. I suppose I should stop. If there's any questions in the audience, please feel free to stop me and just raise your hand, and we'll try to get that question answered.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#29

What's your return on IRRs?

John Rego

executive
#30

Yes. So we have a massive monster modeling exercise that we go through for that. So one could expect the greenfield should be returning IRRs anywhere between 25% to 40% neighborhood. And there's a myriad amount of inputs that go into that as an aerial, as an underground, you name it, where is it, all that stuff. But the returns look really, really good from where we're looking at it right now. Our modeling is not sort of air ball stuff. We've been doing stuff and building things for so long. I think that, with our cross-functional groups, we really now have like honed in on this kind of thing. So even with the selection criteria to go into specific markets that have the same sort of characteristics as Edge-Out markets where we saw penetrations in the 30% to 40% number is like that's where we're going right now. So it's very, very laser specific.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#31

Got it. Now there's a lot of federal and state funding going towards broadband builds, particularly underserved and unserved areas. Are there any markets that you've identified that sort of fit those criteria where you're going to be eligible for funding?

Teresa Elder

executive
#32

Yes, we always are scanning for that and certainly willing to dive in if we think there's something that makes sense. At this time, that is not factored into any of our greenfield approach or Edge-Outs. We tend to go to areas that have a little bit higher density and maybe where we're a second competitor coming in and offering customers choice as opposed to serving underserved markets. We think there's plenty of providers out there doing that.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#33

Okay. Let me switch gears a little bit because, Teresa, you brought it up. Competitors of yours changing some of their pricing and packaging this week, and Comcast announced that they're taking customers in 14 markets up to 200 megs for free. Charter did that in 95% of their footprint. And you talked about that. You're always sort of viewed as, you've called it, the challenger brand in your footprint. Why is the pricing packaging that you have in place right for you today? And I guess how do you see that evolving over the next couple of years?

Teresa Elder

executive
#34

Yes, we are always evolving our offers to our customers. It's a combination of price, the reliability, the speed. All of those good things are the reasons why customers come to us. We took our customers up to 200 meg last year, and I think that was much appreciated by customers. They're just getting that much better experience as they're spending their days on video conferences. That may be less now. Maybe gaming, all the other things that they do. And so we're always looking at those mix of things. And like I said, the other thing is we have had higher upload speeds than our competitors, Comcast and Charter, on 500 meg and 1 gig. And even with their new announcement, we're still more than double what they are.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#35

Now again, on these packages, 100 meg, 200 meg, what's the base take? Like what's the base penetration on each of these sort of packages?

Teresa Elder

executive
#36

Yes. Well, we've announced it's now something like over 85% to 90% of our customers are 200 meg or above. But I think we mentioned on our earnings call, over 50%, about 51%, 52% of our customers are taking 500 meg and above.

John Rego

executive
#37

That's our new customers, new connects, majority of those are going for 500 meg or greater. So it's helped us like pulling up ARPU for the whole thing. And even with the existing base, we started to see it at the beginning of the pandemic, it's not a majority yet, but more and more folks are starting to tier up to a higher speed level, which we'll define as 500 meg or greater here.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#38

Well, talk to us a little bit more about Internet ARPUs in general. How should we expect them to trend, particularly with that transition going on? And then from just a product standpoint, you also have other sort of value-added services like home WiFi. What's the penetration rate on that?

John Rego

executive
#39

Yes. Our HSD ARPU has consistently gone up for each of the last 8 quarters. So we don't see that changing anytime soon. I'd say the biggest driver of that has been the tier-ups, to be honest with you, but we're starting to help that along with selling other products as well. So one you just said was the home WiFi solution, which is an incremental $10 a month that you would get to rent that mesh network device; a security system for the network device; and anything else we could think of that gets sold on top of that. So it has not stopped yet. And again, the need for speed and for bigger packages started to show itself in the beginning of the pandemic. We haven't seen anybody go backwards. And quite frankly, each quarter, we seem to see more people default into a higher speed. So that's part of it.

Teresa Elder

executive
#40

The growth in bandwidth that is required by customers continues to go up. Of course, there was a huge spike at the beginning of the pandemic. We haven't seen it go backwards by any means. What we've seen is just maybe a little bit slowing of the growth, but it's still going up and up.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#41

Is there anything that you could do operationally to entice customers to a higher SKU plan?

Teresa Elder

executive
#42

Sure. Absolutely. We do offer incentives for customers and promotions to go up to higher tiers, and customers seem very happy when they make that choice as well.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#43

Got it. I can't let John off the hook without asking a couple of competition questions. And so I'm curious, with all the comments on fiber-to-the-home overbuilders, curious where you guys stand in terms of overlap with fiber-to-the-home providers.

Teresa Elder

executive
#44

Yes. So presently, we don't have as much fiber overlap as what I've heard some of my peers say. And the other thing is it hasn't been growing a lot. And I guess perhaps I know how we're thinking about our capital deployment to build fiber. We really think about what the competitive dynamics are. And I think similarly, others do a rational analysis as well and say, "Do I want to go into a market where there is a Comcast or a Charter that's offering 1 gig-plus speeds with a WOW! that also has that ubiquitously throughout our footprint and probably some ILEC provider to it?" It's not the best market to go into and have to prove that you can drive penetration. We're not seeing a big loss of share or anything because of that. So it could happen, and we're happy to compete all day long.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#45

Got it. What about fixed wireless?

Teresa Elder

executive
#46

Fixed wireless, you hear a lot about it, but we don't see it in terms of the competition really in the market. We have it in our markets, but we're not seeing any kind of loss of share or issues associated with it. It's such a different technology and ours is so much more reliable, higher speed, good value, that I think most customers, if they have the choice, would rather work with us.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#47

Got it. Last couple of minutes, I wanted to ask, I guess, some financial questions and targets for '22 and beyond. I think you're unique in that I think you're the only cable company that give us guidance for the year for HSD net adds. What gives you the confidence in terms of your projections?

John Rego

executive
#48

Yes. Well, firstly, just based on what we're seeing so far. So by the time we give you the fourth quarter earnings call, we're already in Q1, I'm sure you know. This is a return to growth. And we use the word greenfield, Teresa and I, I think we clocked in the last several months we've used the word greenfield like 12,000 times. But we are still doing Edge-Outs and we are still doing commercial. The big difference this year versus 2021, sort of in the heat of the pandemic, is we really slowed down Edge-Out growth and commercial growth because, a, we couldn't get construction crews out, we couldn't get sales folks out. That's kind of turned around. So in this year's growth plan, we talked about $215 million of CapEx for 2022, $80 million of that CapEx is for growth and about $20 million of that is for this Edge-Outs and commercial build. So we feel comfortable that as those start coming, we're going to start selling them. So we're pretty happy where we are right now. And there's 2 parts about growing in our type of service business. There's the top line growth, and there's the churn. And one thing we've been able to do really is to have one of the lowest churns that either Teresa or I have seen in our collective careers. So we manage the churn and we manage the growth. So we feel comfortable with the numbers we threw out. And it's always been our bet to be conservative on what our number is anyway.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#49

Okay. I guess any last few questions from the audience?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#50

What about pricing on video? Is there an incentive to improve pricing on video to drive growth in HSD? And what's your strategy around that?

Teresa Elder

executive
#51

Yes. The programming costs definitely keep going up and up. And so we have taken an annual video rate increase definitely. And we pass that on, whether it's new customers as well as our existing customers. So if a customer has that situation and they call in to us and say, "Oh my gosh, these costs are too high. Can you help us?" We empathize with them and say, "You're right. They're charging too much." And we will help them if they'd like, go to streaming services, we'll help guide them and coach someone what might be the best mix for their viewing habits. But yes, we absolutely do pass through those costs.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#52

Certainly, the margins on HSD is so much more attractive. Is there a way to encourage them more?

Teresa Elder

executive
#53

Well, video cord-cutting has really continued on. Just by being agnostic and really understanding where customers are coming from, the customers find that so refreshing that we're not the cable company that's just saying, "No, you must bundle in order to get your best broadband pricing." We don't do that. We totally get it. If they love the curated pay TV service. We have WOW! tv+, our IPTV service. But if they want to go to streaming, we encourage that as well and help them get there.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#54

You want to close it off, final comment, Teresa?

Teresa Elder

executive
#55

Well, just thank you so much for having us. We are so excited about the WOW! story. And I'm also really proud of our people, of WOW!, we've done a lot of transformation in the last few years and certainly with the financial transformation that we did this last year. Our employees just hit a record engagement level, our engagement score, which is kind of an employee satisfaction thing. And we've been pleased to see that we have very low voluntary turnover as well with highly productive employees, and I just couldn't be more proud of them. So I guess I'll give a shout-out to the people.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#56

Well, thanks for being here, Teresa, John. Appreciate it.

John Rego

executive
#57

Thanks for having us.

Brandon Nispel

analyst
#58

Thank you.

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