XP Power Limited (XPP) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
January 31, 2022
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Gavin Griggs
executive[Audio Gap] For both of them, their capabilities in the high-voltage space, which we think will very much accelerate our strategy in this area. So what are we like -- 150 employees in 2 sites in Germany, one in Munich and one in Stuttgart. Both have design and manufacturing capabilities, so it -- so significantly enhancing our high-voltage capability. The acquisitions also extends our position with some of our customers, our leading customer globally is also a customer of FuG, but in a completely new area. So FuG and Guth have no exposure to deposition etch or ion implantation, where we work in the semi industry, but they introduce us to iron beam lithography and other areas like that. The other point, it brings scale in the important German and surrounding markets and it's an investment for us in Europe, which we still feel is an area we can grow faster. If we turn to Page 4, just to cover a bit of the background of the businesses. They were formed about 70 years ago, and Dr. Simon Consulting took them over in 2005 and 2008. You can see there in Southern Germany, quite a significant distance from our sales office and warehouse. Hence, there's no cost synergies. This is all about revenue growth. The businesses produce predominantly high-voltage products for the industrial and semiconductor sectors. So sectors we know well, but new areas within those sectors, which makes it most exciting. So things like electron beam processing, chip manufacturing, further exposure to semiconductor manufacturing equipment, but in new areas, environmental technology, surface coating areas like that. FuG is the larger of the 2 businesses. That's the one near Munich, and they develop high precision, both low and high-voltage power solutions for semi and industrial applications. Guth the smaller of the businesses, is high-voltage applications more in the heavy duty area like charging capacitors, insulation and measurement. And what's also exciting is both bring new technologies and capabilities to XP. The -- our Glassman high-technology businesses use air insulation with FuG, particularly, it brings encapsulation or potting. So it means we can take the product smaller. The other piece, the FuG products have very high precision and accuracy. So our XP products would be accuracy to about 100 parts per million, which is fine for things like iron implantation, but FuG takes it down to 10 parts of million or even part 1 million, which is where you get into microscopy and areas like that. So the strategic rationale on Slide 5 is very clear for us -- sorry, this -- and I'll cover most of these points. The area -- I'll show you in a minute, but it's very highly complementary to our power portfolio, and there is minimal overlap between FuG and Guth and also in our XP portfolio. And I'll illustrate that in a moment. It also brings an additional design center, some more engineers, which is a core of our business and a manufacturing facility and very much complements our current footprint. Revenue synergies is where we're focused. We're looking to grow the businesses, both XP and FuG and Guth faster. And neither business have a mature sales team. Guth don't have a sales team. It's a very small sales team in FuG that's focused on Germany, Switzerland, Austria. We will look to put this through our global customer base and through our sales team to accelerate growth. We will be going through the exercise to look at where we should go direct and where we should go through the existing distributors. So both have a significant expansion capability. And then finally, to reiterate the point, it strengthens our position in Germany, the largest market for power solutions in Europe. If you turn to Page 6. You'll have seen this chart before and showed how we've increased our target market through the acquisitions of Comdel, Glassman and EMCO over recent years. What we've added is then how FuG and Guth add further to that portfolio. So we're going up the voltage levels and up the power levels and into certain low voltage areas that we haven't been able to address previously. So hence, why we're saying these are very, very complementary acquisitions for us. I'll turn to Oskar to cover the financials.
Oskar Zahn
executiveGood morning, everyone. The -- as you can see from the slide, the combined revenue of Guth and FuG is anticipated to be about EUR 18 million. We haven't finalized the year. That's why it's anticipated with an adjusted EBITDA of about EUR 4.5 million. We are not planning any cost synergies at this stage. The strategy is entirely about growth, as Gavin has just outlined. We expect the future revenue to grow at high single digits. And the earnings is expected to be enhancing already from 2022 onwards with additive to group margins. It will be funded from existing debt facilities. And even with that, we'll have a very strong position afterwards with net debt adjusted EBITDA expected to be below -- well below 1x EBITDA. So attractive returns, and it's accretive to XP.
Gavin Griggs
executiveThanks, Oskar. And just finally, a quick reminder of our investment case and why this fits so well into it. We're exposed to fast-growing markets, and we see the potential to outperform these. FuG and Guth add to that. We have attractive margins and FuG -- both FuG and Guth are going to be accretive to our operating margin to the overall group operating margin. We generate lots of cash. These both businesses are very cash generating and that funds CapEx, R&D, our growing dividend and future M&A. Our culture is very entrepreneurial. This has been -- these businesses have been owned by an entrepreneur for the last 10-plus years, and we feel we can bring more maturity and growth to them. And we have a strong supply chain that has been fully tested in recent periods. And the German supply chain here is equally as strong, and we're confident in the way they perform and what they can deliver. And then finally, as we know, we lead on ESG in our industry, and we see opportunities to improve that in the German facilities that we have here. So on that note, operator, can I open the floor up for any questions you may have?
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Okay. The first question in the queue is coming from the line of Christian Hinderaker from Liberum.
Christian Hinderaker
analystI'm Christian Hinderaker from Liberum. I guess, interested to your first deal in around 3 years or so. But prior to that, you obviously had quite a strong track record of M&A. I'm interested to understand whether this might be a signal of intent for a more broad ramp-up in acquisitions or whether it was somewhat sort of opportunistic in nature?
Gavin Griggs
executiveWe've always said we would only do M&A when we could do physical due diligence and face-to-face and really get to know the businesses. And we haven't been able to do that during 2020 and 2021. We've expected to do it in -- we met the -- we first started talking to these guys in early 2020. It would have been -- we would have hopefully have completed earlier. Is it signal intent? It's a signal to say we are open to our acquisitions. We see that as a core part of our growth but only for the right deals where we see the culture is fitting and it being growth enhancing.
Operator
operatorAnd the next question is coming from the line of David Farrell from Jefferies.
David Richard Farrell
analystI just wondered if you could talk through some of the challenges maybe of taking this product into Asia and the U.S. What do you think the problems are tend to be in terms of achieving the revenue synergies? Are there kind of competitors in place, which will be hard to use up or anything like that?
Gavin Griggs
executiveI think I'm actually quite excited about the U.S. and Asia because I actually feel they're almost virgin territory, they go to those markets through distributors who -- their sales into the U.S. of EUR 300,000. So very, very small. And Asia, it's been very -- China has been very, very small. And those are big attractive markets for these products. There are some existing competitors. This takes us, we think, to #3 in high voltage behind Spellman and Advanced Energy. But I'm confident with the products they've got, they can compete effectively and really and enter those markets. It's interesting Glassman and FuG saw themselves as competitors. But once you actually get to understand the businesses, you see they really are complementary. And I think this is an offering that other people don't bring. And if you look at our -- the other point I'd make, the main growth we've had from the Glassman and Comdel regions -- businesses have been in North America and in Asia. Hence, the confidence we have in those things, and that's through our direct sales team.
Operator
operatorThe next question is coming from the line of Katherine Thompson from Edison.
Katherine Thompson
analystMy question kind of follows on from the last one. Really just to understand who the 2 companies' competitors are. I think you mentioned who they are in the U.S. and Asia, but helpful to know who they compete with in Europe?
Gavin Griggs
executive1 Yes. The 2 main competitors -- well, the 3 main competitors, they saw it was Spellman, Advanced Energy and us through Glassman. They have -- there is clearly a broader range of competitors. But as you know, there's a lot of smaller players in that high-voltage market. But the -- a lot of the people we know well. So TDK have a presence -- might actually saw that particularly in Asia have a presence, but then you really start getting down to some smaller players that we see -- that we come across in any way with Glassman.
Katherine Thompson
analystOkay. And just one accounting question. So the German business, I'm assuming that's going to push your overall tax rate up by a couple of percentage points? Sounds about right?
Gavin Griggs
executiveI don't know the exact number, but yes, the tax rate in Germany is higher than our group average.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] The next question is coming from the line of Kevin Fogarty from Numis.
Kevin Fogarty
analystI guess I just had 2 questions, really. The first one was around, given your experience with Glassman and Comdel, do these acquisitions now kind of fill what you think the capabilities you may have been missing or have identified given the experience you've had since the recent -- well, the last month, I guess, in Comdel? That was really sort of question number one. And the second one, I guess, just on the financials of this, could you help us with the kind of business and revenue model here? Is it similar in terms of kind of backlog or order books, et cetera? And perhaps the kind of visibility that this tends to work on, if you could give us any of those metrics, that would be useful.
Gavin Griggs
executiveOkay. And yes, so we've always said M&A is part of our growth strategy to increase our addressable market. And these 2 businesses fit exactly into that. Part of the other appeal it gave us more scale in Europe. While we don't necessarily target the geographic approach, it was almost an added bonus as it brings mature design center into our European business that we can then scale and add further engineers to. But I think you always look at -- everyone always says what's missing from our portfolio, and we go, well, there's always niches we can target. And as you can see, they're relatively small businesses that are focused on -- focused on Europe essentially. I think taking those into Asia and the U.S. is a big opportunity. Do you want to cover the financials, Oskar?
Oskar Zahn
executiveYes. And in terms of the financials, very similar to us in the sense they have backlog. They have great visibility of the revenues for the next year. They've had to have the same challenges that we've had in terms of some raw material shortages and component lead times, et cetera. So a very similar business to us just on a much smaller scale in about $20 million worth versus our $320-odd million.
Kevin Fogarty
analystSure. Okay. Okay. And just as a sort of quick follow-up, I guess, are you kind of saying that the reason these businesses haven't been combined in the past is that you bring the opportunity, given how these would now sit within your wider sort of high-voltage portfolio? Is that where the kind of logic comes from?
Gavin Griggs
executiveYes. They haven't been combined in the past simply because the Dr. Simon managed them very, very differently. They are about 250 kilometers apart. So the -- if you're -- for us, that doesn't seem very far, but for other people, that does. We are going to be putting them into our metrics structure, promote supply chain from a sales perspective and that. So I think the -- and even when we look at bringing them closer together, I don't think we'll merge them, it's not about -- we don't see cost synergies. We see it as how do you make them grow quicker if they're working together. The FuG facility where we currently has an empty, a mirror of the current building that was built in the last 2 years. So we've got 100% expansion capacity even though the existing site is in full. So we may end up using some of that to accelerate Guth's growth as well.
Operator
operatorAnd the final question in the queue is coming from the line of Thomas Rands from Investec.
Thomas Rands
analystJust on investments in R&D within these 2 businesses. Are there any kind of new products that have been in the pipeline that are due to kind of come to market in the next year or 2 that could kind of help accelerate that organic growth profile?
Gavin Griggs
executiveWithin FuG, yes, there are. Guth is more of a mature business and it's very well established with this existing customer base, but FuG is definitely opportunities, and they have launched new products in recent years that we think there's opportunity to push harder globally and also maybe target some other markets that they haven't historically targeted.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] There are no further questions coming through. So I would like to hand you back over to your host for today's call.
Gavin Griggs
executiveGreat. Thank you very much, everyone, for dialing in. And we'll be able to give you far more details in early March when we come out with our results. But we're very excited by these acquisitions that expand our profile, our potential in the attractive high-voltage growth area. And on that note, thank you very much.
Operator
operatorThank you, everyone, for joining us on today's call. You may now disconnect your handsets. Hosts, please stay connected.
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