Yancoal Australia Ltd (YAL) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

October 21, 2026

ASX AU Energy Oil, Gas and Consumable Fuels earnings 44 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Yancoal Third Quarter Production Report. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's call is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Mr. Brendan Fitzpatrick. Thank you. Please go ahead.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#2

Thank you, Desmond, and thank you to everyone joining us for Yancoal's briefing on the third quarter production report. We have several members of Yancoal's executive leadership team on the call to review the quarter and participate in the question-and-answer session. The commentary provided today is based on the quarterly production report released on the Australian Securities Exchange and the Stock Exchange of Hong Kong yesterday, the 20th of October. All financial references in this webcast are in Australian dollars unless otherwise designated. I'll now hand over to our Chief Executive Officer, Sharif Burra, to provide the quarterly highlights.

Sharif Burra

executive
#3

Thank you, Brendan, and welcome, everyone. The third quarter was an important period for Yancoal, marked by the completion of the Kestrel acquisition, continued operational discipline across our portfolio and stronger realized pricing, supporting a significant uplift in our cash position. On the 1st of October, we completed the acquisition of an 80% interest in the Kestrel coal mine. Kestrel is a high-quality, long-life metallurgical coal asset that strengthens our portfolio and increases our exposure to premium steelmaking coal markets. It's a meaningful step forward in our growth strategy, and we look forward to working with our joint venture partner, Mitsui, and the Kestrel workforce as integration activities progress. Earnings from Kestrel will commence this quarter. Despite lower production due to planned longwall activities, our cash balance increased by $340 million during the quarter. This reflects stronger realized pricing, disciplined cost management and continued operational momentum across the business. Kevin will expand on the financial position and guidance later in the call. Turning to production. Managed operations delivered 16.6 million tonnes of run-of-mine coal and 12.4 million tonnes of saleable coal during the quarter. Production was lower than the second quarter due to the planned longwall relocation at Moolarben and challenging geological conditions at Ashton. Importantly, Moolarben's longwall returned to regular production in September, providing a foundation for improved output in the December quarter. Across the open cut portfolio, Mount Thorley Warkworth, Middlemount and Hunter Valley operations all delivered strong performances. And year-to-date, we're tracking ahead of last year's record performance. Looking ahead, stronger production in the December quarter, continued support from favorable coal market conditions and the commencement of earnings from Kestrel are all constructive for our full year performance. Normally, at this stage, I'd hand over to David Bennett, our Executive General Manager, Operations, to provide further detail on operational performance and safety. However, David is attending to other matters today, so I'll cover these topics. Safety remains a core focus across all sites. Our total recordable injury frequency rate ended the quarter at 7.14% compared with 7% at the end of June. While still below the industry weighted average, the recent trend reinforces the need for continued targeted intervention activities to strengthen safety performance. Operational performance during the third quarter was broadly in line with our expectations. The planned longwall relocation at Moolarben was the primary driver of lower production relative to the second quarter. Across managed operations, we produced 16.6 million tonnes of run-of-mine coal and 12.4 million tonnes of saleable coal. Moolarben completed the longwall relocation with open cut operations and the coal handling and preparation plant performing strongly throughout the quarter. The longwall recommenced production in September, positioning the site for increased output in the December quarter. Mount Thorley Warkworth delivered higher run-of-mine production, supported by strong mining fleet performance and dragline productivity. Saleable coal production remained consistent with the prior quarter. Hunter Valley operations maintained strong momentum with run-of-mine production exceeding our forecast and coal handling and preparation plant performance supporting consistent saleable coal output. Middlemount delivered improved production, supported by strong mining performance and favorable yields. Yarrabee delivered steady production with continued focus on coal exposure and mining optimization. Ashton's production was significantly lower due to challenging geological conditions in the longwall roof. Operational focus remains on safely managing strata conditions and supporting future production continuity. With Moolarben's longwall now operating and strong open cut performance across the portfolio, production in the December quarter is likely to be stronger than the September quarter. Kestrel produced 6.3 million tonnes of ROM coal and 4.8 million tonnes of saleable coal on a 100% basis in the 9 months to the end of September. We received our 80% interest from the 1st of October onwards. The operation continues to perform well, resulting in a longwall relocation being brought forward, which will affect coal production in the back end of the fourth quarter. I'll now hand over to Mark Salem, our Executive General Manager, Marketing and Logistics, to provide commentary on the coal markets.

Mark Salem

executive
#4

Thank you, Sharif. Attributable sales were 9.0 million tonnes, lower than the second quarter due to reduced saleable production and the timing of shipments. Thermal coal markets strengthened during the quarter as geopolitical tensions, supply disruptions and weather-related constraints tightened seaborne markets. Higher liquefied natural gas prices reinforce coal's competitiveness in the global power generation mix. Demand across Asia and Europe remained resilient with coal-fired generation supporting energy security and cost management. Australian producers benefit from favorable operating conditions and strong export performance. Against this backdrop, pricing for lower energy thermal coal strengthened relative to higher calorific value products, reflecting increased buyer preference for Australian supply amid uncertainty surrounding Indonesian exports. Thermal coal indices increased during the quarter. The API5 Index averaged USD 99 per tonne, up 3% from the second quarter. The Newcastle 6,000 Index averaged USD 136 per tonne, broadly unchanged from the second quarter. Metallurgical coal markets also strengthened. Chinese steel producers increased imports ahead of the seasonally stronger consumption period, while domestic supply constraints and export disruptions in Russia and Canada further tightened seaborne availability. Metallurgical coal indices moved higher. The Platts Low Vol PCI Index averaged USD 180 per tonne, up 12% from the second quarter, and the Platts Semi-Soft Index averaged USD 149 per tonne, up 4%. Demand across major steel-producing regions remained broadly stable with resilient production in China, Japan and Taiwan, partially offsetting softer conditions in India and South Korea. Our realized prices increased during the quarter. Thermal coal averaged $160 per tonne, metallurgical coal averaged $229 per tonne, and our overall realized price averaged $170 per tonne. Recent benchmark price increases have not yet been fully reflected in realized pricing and further uplift may flow through in subsequent quarters. I will now hand over to Kevin Su, our Chief Financial Officer, to address the financial position and guidance.

Ning Su

executive
#5

Thank you, Mark. As Sharif noted, our cash balance increased by $340 million during the quarter. This reflects stronger realized pricing, disciplined cost management and continued operational momentum across the business. The cash balance benefited from favorable timing of payments and receipts, unlike last quarter when the timing was unfavorable. There was also a positive impact from unrealized foreign exchange gains on our U.S. dollar cash holdings. We completed the Kestrel acquisition on the 1st of October. The upfront cash consideration of USD 1.85 billion was funded through a combination of available cash and initial utilization of the USD 1.2 billion 5 year syndicated acquisition loan facility. Payment of the upfront consideration factored in the USD 40 million deposits and other provisional adjustments for the net debt and working capital. Our USD 200 million committed working capital facility remains undrawn. Our operational guidance for 2026 remains unchanged. Attributable saleable production is likely to be delivered in the upper half of the 26.5 million to 40.5 million tonnes range. Higher diesel prices have returned as a cost headwinds, placing operating costs towards the upper end of the guidance range. Cash operating costs should fall towards the upper end of the range of $90 to $98 per tonne. Capital expenditure will be skewed to the fourth quarter with less than $400 million spent year-to-date. Full year capital expenditure should fall within the guidance range of $600 million to $750 million. Stronger realized pricing, favorable market conditions and the commencement of the earning from Kestrel are constructive for our financial performance in the final quarter of 2026. I'll now hand it back to Brendan to coordinate the question-and-answer session.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#6

Thank you, Kevin, Mark and Sharif for the -- for outlining the drivers of our third quarter performance. We'll now move to the question-and-answer session, starting with questions from the phone, then moving to questions submitted via the webcast. Desmond, could you please initiate the phone question process?

Operator

operator
#7

[Operator Instructions] There are currently no questions from the phone line. Please continue.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#8

Thank you, Desmond. I'll come back to you shortly to check again. In the meantime, we'll start with some of the webcast questions. Unsurprisingly, Kestrel is featuring in a number of the questions submitted so far. Whilst we didn't have operational control through the third quarter, Kestrel will form part of the portfolio going forward. So let's look at some of the questions coming through on that topic. Something high level to start with. Will the Kestrel staff be managed by Yancoal or by a third-party? Sharif, can you please elaborate on the operating structure going forward?

Sharif Burra

executive
#9

Yes. Thanks, Brendan. We're currently in the process of integrating Kestrel into Yancoal. The intention is over time that it's operated similar to all of our other operations. We had the great benefit of being able to go up to site in the first couple of weeks of ownership and get to meet the team and the people on site there and very impressed with the culture, great management team and certainly, the mine was producing well. So the intent is through the integration process to bring it into the Yancoal family and to run it as we do our other mines.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#10

Thank you, Sharif. Kestrel is an operating mine. It's in production. What can we say at this point in time, given the early stage of the implementation integration process with regards to the production profile this fourth quarter and then going into the forward horizon?

Sharif Burra

executive
#11

Yes. Thanks, Brendan. The mine has been producing well. It certainly continued to produce well through the short period of time we've had it. There will be a longwall move brought forward as a result of the production profile and that longwall move will be at the back end of this quarter. With regards to production profiles going forward, we're currently working through the budget and 5-year plan process, including the Kestrel asset, and we'll be able to provide that information -- some of that information in terms of guidance at the end of this year.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#12

Thanks, Sharif. That leads into the next topic with regards to an update on the cost and CapEx profile for Kestrel post acquisition and any plans for expansion of production from the current level. Is there anything we can say at this point in time? Or will we have to wait for the full year results in February before we have any forward-looking commentary?

Sharif Burra

executive
#13

Yes. Look, we'll wait until February. We're obviously working pretty diligently through some of the opportunities at Kestrel, will take our time. It is a very high-performing underground mine. It's running very well. And the intention through the integration process is to work closely with the team at Kestrel and build off the strong base that they've developed there together.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#14

Delving further into the Kestrel acquisition and the various financial metrics. One of the questions coming through is asking for some insight into the various financial metrics regarding the acquisition. What was the return on investment for this acquisition? Or how was it -- or how does it compare with Yancoal's weighted average cost of capital or the assumed realized price for the Kestrel products? What can we say in regards to this? Perhaps Kevin, I'll turn to you to see what's available as an initial comment.

Ning Su

executive
#15

Yes. I'm probably going to just maintain the position as we announced the Kestrel transaction on 14th of April, the presentation we published in ASX and Hong Kong Stock Exchange. We do have a few simulated number there. However, the question asked about ROI, about WACC, the expected return and the price assumption, they were not disclosed publicly. It's a very Yancoal internal assumptions. So for that reason, I'm probably going to just refer back to the presentation we posted previously.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#16

Thanks, Kevin. Quite understandable. I believe we've got one question coming through on the phone line. Desmond, I'll turn to you before returning to the webcast questions.

Operator

operator
#17

We have a question from the line of Mark Charles Paterson from Bell Potter Securities.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#18

Just obviously, Brendan, regarding the cash flow, which is what the market obviously looks at, and we've charted pretty much since back to 2023. Obviously, in the third quarter, you had a strong met coal position and obviously price coming through there better than thermal. Obviously, that's been reversed in the current spot prices, obviously, up API $115 compared to $99, $150 for Newc. And obviously, we've now got Kestrel with the low ash high coking coal price coming through. How should we look as a sensitivity on a percentage contribution going forward for each API, Newc and the met coal, so we can sort of get an understanding of, obviously, sensitivities of where those prices are moving and obviously impact on the company.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#19

Okay. Mark, I appreciate the appetite to understand the product mix going forward. If we look at the product mix currently or pre Kestrel, we've been fairly steady state. Circa 85% thermal products and 15% metallurgical coal products being the Low Vol PCI and the Semi-Soft. In the half -- sorry, in the April presentation pack, we put some pro forma charts in showing the product mix going forward. Kevin, if you just want to highlight some of those numbers that we provided previously, it will be indicative. There will always be period-by-period variations in any specific time frame, but it is a good reference to use at this point in time.

Ning Su

executive
#20

Sure. As Brendan just mentioned, we have put in some high-level indicative number for the pro forma coking coal portfolio, which is going to be increased from a 16% to 22% based on the 2025 number. And then in the previous communication, we also mentioned for anything other than coking coal, that thermal coal, we have API5, GCNewc. We generally follow the public statements as all the coal produced largely in Hunter Valley will be using GCNewc. And then all the thermal coal 100% produced by Moolarben, they are thermal, they tend to be take API5. Hopefully, those numbers will give you a high-level indication about how much percentage attributable to the coking coal API5 and the GCNewc.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#21

Thanks, Kevin. Mark, was that sufficient? Is there anything further you need?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#22

Yes. So just on the thermal. So just on the thermal, on that 85%, is that split more towards the API5 rather than over Newc because obviously, API5 has been relatively strong in the last 4 to 5 weeks or so?

Sharif Burra

executive
#23

I think, Mark, if you look at the flow of coal from our assets, if you look at Moolarben, that's majority API5. So that will give you a flavor of the materiality of the size of where that comes. And predominantly, the Newcastle coal field sites are new convex. It will be reasonably close.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#24

And one final observation is Mark Salem and his team do a great job optimizing the product mix. They use the blending capabilities across the different assets to best meet the market needs and the customer appetite. So there is always some variation to the product profile as we look at the market conditions. Having mentioned that, Mark Salem, perhaps I could hand across to you to see if there's any additional comment you'd like to make on how we're seeing the current market conditions and how we're adapting our product profile to suit those market conditions.

Mark Salem

executive
#25

Yes, sure. Thanks, Brendan. Yes, look, it's an ongoing exercise in terms of optimization of our revenue and our product mix. And we're continually working with the mine sites in a very close way in terms of where significant price movements exist, how we modify the way we prepare the coal and the way we blend the coal, always in an attempt to optimize. And that reflects back on the comment you made, Brendan, in relation to how the blending and how coals can change from different categories in relation to Mark's comments about API5 or GCNewc. It depends also on the arbitrage that does exist and the markets available and how we prepare those cargoes. But in essence, I think the comments that were made by both Kevin and Sharif should give Mark a good guideline of how we -- where those coals basically sit against approximate indices. The intricacies are always very delicate and very involved, and that's probably a good guideline.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#26

Sorry, just one final question, one quick one. Just on the Kestrel price. Obviously, that's a low ash hard coking coal price, which I think when you announced the acquisition was $146.5. Now my understanding that is obviously a discount to the hard coking coal, which is sort of $280. So it's above that $225 level where you start paying contingency payments over the top of what you paid already. Do you expect to occur in the fourth quarter, any contingency price because of that price increase?

Ning Su

executive
#27

Mark, based on what we have publicly announced, the contingent payments will be triggered on a full year basis if the hard coking coal index is above USD 225. And this is on an annual basis. So we are not able to simulate only based on Q4. We will need to look at the whole year basically for the next 12 months to see the potential impact, Mark.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#28

Okay. Desmond, I don't see any other questions on the phone line at the moment. I'll move back to the webcast. On that topic of cash movements, one of the topics coming up is the cash balance. We have people noting that in previous quarters, we've put the end of quarter cash balance in the quarterly production report and observed that, that was not provided for this third quarter period. What comment can we provide on the cash balance at the end of the third quarter and linking that back to the cash balance increase we did report being the $340 million, please, Kevin?

Ning Su

executive
#29

Yes. Thanks, Brendan. That's a very good question. Normally, we tend to always put a cash balance for the quarterly. This time, we're intentionally not putting it as this might be confusing due to the settlement of Kestrel. From acquisition settlement funding schedule perspective, we need to start drawing the acquisition facility on 29th of September. And we also have a 2-step settlement as there will be a debt settlement internally for Kestrel as well. So those big cash movement may unfortunately confuse people if we're using them. That's the reason why when this quarterly was drafted, we intentionally tried to normalize these one-off items and focus on operation cash movement, which is $340 million. Thanks, Brendan.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#30

Thanks, Kevin. So ideally, once the cash transactions and the debt profile is normalized, we can return to a reported cash balance at the end of the quarter as has been past practice. But as noted, just wasn't practicable for this specific period. Speaking of cash balances, loans and the like, we have a question here saying, now that we've taken on the USD 1.2 billion loan, how is the Board balancing loan repayments against CapEx and dividends going forward? Is the current dividend policy remaining in place? Or will debt repayments take priority in the short term? Perhaps, Kevin, again, one for you to provide some views.

Ning Su

executive
#31

Yes. The loan, we haven't fully disclosed all the commercial details of the loan. But we have done all the simulation in our modeling to make sure the current guideline of Yancoal's dividend, which is 50% NPAT or 50% free cash flow, whichever is higher. We -- after all this simulation, we are not compromising that guidance we previously communicated with the investors. So we'll keep the same discipline.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#32

Thanks, Kevin. And I believe you were talking about some of those pro forma numbers that we provided for the debt position back in the April presentation. The indication was it was far from a stretched balance sheet. If anything, we had gone from having a lazy balance sheet to a reasonably utilized balance sheet, perhaps a fair observation to make, but there's no urgency to quickly pay down the debt. It will be a matter of balancing the preferences.

Ning Su

executive
#33

Yes. This is correct. And then also, please bear in mind, Yancoal's existing portfolio has no interest-bearing liabilities. So with Kestrel, even with this $1.2 billion acquisition facility, the overall gearing position is very mild.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#34

Great. Earlier in the call, we did touch on the forward-looking projections. And we made the observation that a lot of the guidance and the outwardly -- or the forward-looking projections will come through in the February results -- the full year result in February. With regards to capital allocation and cash flow and CapEx, is there any indication on the CapEx spend on the multiyear horizon? And if we look at it specifically in the September quarter, can we clarify what the September quarter spend was and where the funds would be allocated in the final quarter of the year? And does that include or exclude Kestrel for the fourth quarter CapEx profile?

Ning Su

executive
#35

Thanks, Brendan. We have provided our guidance on CapEx on a full year basis, which is $600 million to $750 million. We have spent $400 million up to the end of Q3. And then we will basically still aiming to spend the other CapEx within the range. We do not do multiyear forward-looking guidance. So we would encourage investors wait until February next year to look at 2027 forward-looking CapEx guidance. And then the current guidance doesn't include Kestrel.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#36

Thanks, Kevin. That's worth clarifying. All the guidance numbers provided are exclusive of Kestrel, the production figure, the cash operating costs and the CapEx. They were all set pre-Kestrel. We are mindful of that. And when it comes to the full year report, we'll provide figures against the original guidance and clarify what is inclusive and exclusive of Kestrel on the full year 2026 performance. Going back to the topic of Kestrel and coal quality, there was a reference earlier to the benchmark price and the circa $500 million of contingent payments. Could we please clarify which benchmark we're referencing when we're talking about those contingent pricing payments?

Ning Su

executive
#37

Thanks Brendan. As just mentioned, it's the premium hard coking coal index, which we quoted, and you can find this reference in the announcement we made on the 14th of April.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#38

And Kevin, am I correct to say that there is a price realization component as well? So it's the index price and then a price realization factor that becomes relevant for our revenue generation and therefore, contingency payment.

Ning Su

executive
#39

Yes, that's a very good point. The USD 225 hard coking coal index price, what I mentioned is what is supposed to be the trigger. However, when we pay the contingent payments, we will be looking into the realization factor to figure out how much applicable to the [indiscernible] cash flow portion.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#40

Thanks, Kevin. Turning back to operational specifics and looking still at Kestrel being the newest asset in the portfolio, it's where the -- a lot of the interest is lying for the investors on the call. The longwall move that was mentioned in the fourth quarter, Sharif, can we give some indication on the utilization for Kestrel through the fourth quarter, perhaps how many weeks the longwall move will take, how many weeks of production we anticipate? And they are asking for a projection on production from Kestrel, but I'm mindful that we don't provide asset-by-asset production guidance.

Sharif Burra

executive
#41

Yes. Thanks, Brendan. Given the recent good production, the longwall move has come into this year. It will start in and around early December. It will run through into the early weeks of next year, the longwalls ramp up and get away again. The only other thing, I guess, I'd say is there is a step around in the next panel, which is a short move, but there are some good long panels. As most people would appreciate, longwall move frequency is related to panel lengths. And if you have a look through some of the material previously provided, you'll get a good view of -- a good idea of where the frequency lies of those panel lengths.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#42

Thanks, Sharif. And one of the investors asking, when we provide our 2027 guidance, will there be a separate guidance for Kestrel versus the rest of the business? Mindful that they're also asking about longwall moves. You've just touched on that. The reason for the question is there's a 5-year plan later this year when we get -- will we get 5-year guidance in February or just annual guidance. So I'll make an initial observation there. Yancoal's practice is 1 year of operational guidance on a forward-looking basis. One of the main reasons we do this is the assets are running at a fairly steady state profile. We don't have significant step changes in the production horizon over, say, the next 5 years. And fortunately, Kestrel is a similar asset. It's operating at a fairly steady-state basis. So notwithstanding the longwall moves and the like at not only Kestrel, but Moolarben and Ashton, the combined production guidance at the group level is likely where we'll be going forward. However, we will evaluate all the guidance thought processes as we head into the next full year result in February. Still on the topic of Kestrel and the transaction, so no doubt one for you, Kevin. Could we clarify whether the Kestrel acquisition is expected to result in one-off nonrecurring accounting considerations? And if so, will it be recognized in the fourth quarter of 2026? And potentially even can we clarify under which line item on the income statement? And do we have any sense for the magnitude of these one-off items if they are to occur?

Ning Su

executive
#43

Thanks, Brendan. We just completed Kestrel acquisition. The team and our consultant has been working on the acquisition accounting. There's one line, actually, we also shared previously, happy to share this again is the stamp duty we need just as a part of the transaction going to incur and we need to recognize and prudent in our accounts. The valuation is being done when we assume the valuation is between maybe around $150 million to $200 million, be conservative. Other than that, we haven't foreseen any other accounting entry going to be caused by or any significant loss caused by this Kestrel acquisition. But as said, we have to go through a proper process working with our consultant to work out all the acquisition accounting entries. Thanks.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#44

Thanks, Kevin. I've just about exhausted the webcast questions. Desmond, I'll come back to you to see if there are any additional questions coming through on the phone lines.

Operator

operator
#45

[Operator Instructions] There are currently no questions from the phone line. Please continue.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#46

Okay. I have the final webcast question in front of me. If any participants would like to ask another question, I suggest you start typing. Otherwise, we're moving to closing comments after this final question. What can we say about the relatively weak coal sales volume in the 3Q period, given it was below the sales volume produced during the quarter. So what we're looking at there is the sales volume was 9.0 million tonnes compared to attributable saleable production of 9.4 million tonnes. I'll hand over to Sharif for a comment.

Sharif Burra

executive
#47

'In the first quarter of call, obviously, the Moolarben longwall move, Moolarben underground [ coals were bypassed. ] So obviously, that's a large driver of that. And Mark Salem, I'm happy if you have any further comments you wanted to add.

Mark Salem

executive
#48

Thanks, Sharif. Yes, look, very simply, we had a lot of sales and shipments that were in the queue at both the ports of Newcastle and Gladstone. Unfortunately, at the Port of Newcastle, ship loader 10 was down for maintenance and then we had an unexpected disruption to ship loader 709, 710 and 709 respectively. So that resulted in 2 ship loaders being out and that caused a bit of a queue to occur at the Port of Newcastle. So we had quite a number of sales that actually slipped. So the sales have actually been made. It's just the timing of the actual shipments. Similarly, at the Port of Gladstone, which impacts our Yarrabee, there's been a queue evolving over the month of September, which resulted in a couple of shipments also slipping. And so the -- we haven't lost the sales. It's just a function of timing of when the sales will occur, and we're monitoring those queues very carefully for our year-end position as well.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#49

Thanks, Mark. That's a good observation about the timing effect. If I look back to the second quarter production report, we had 10.8 million tonnes of attributable production and 11.6 million tonnes of sales. So the production and the sales always normalize over time. It's the periodicity and the reporting in a 3-month period that tends to be the difference. Okay. And Mark Jacobs, hopefully, you're still online. We've got one final question coming through relating to the Moolarben. The reference here is Stage 3, I assume it's the open cut 3 extension. What are the risks to having that extension signed? And any views on legal challenges or relevant conditions that people should be aware of?

Mark Jacobs

executive
#50

Yes. Thanks, Brendan. The Moolarben Open Cut 3 extension project, we're expecting to get referred to the Independent Planning Commission within the next week or 2. The department advises that it has finalized its assessments. I think that it is realistic to expect similar conditions on Scope 3 conditions to what were imposed on Hunter Valley operations. I will note that those are reporting obligations. They are not constraints. As far as the question of legal challenge is concerned, what I can say is that the application has been rigorously assessed by both our legal team, the department's legal team in its assessment report and will equally be assessed from a legal perspective from the Independent Planning Commission. So the fact that there will be a public hearing means there is no risk of a merit appeal, but there is always a potential of [indiscernible] review appeal if somehow everyone has made a legal error.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#51

Okay. That's very useful, Mark. And for the benefit of everyone listening in worth clarifying that, that open cut 3 that we're referring to is approximately 30 million tonnes of production. It would extend the production profile at Moolarben, but we're not talking about a significant step change in the production output at any point in time. That concludes all the questions on the webcast. I'll hand over to Sharif for the closing remarks.

Sharif Burra

executive
#52

Thank you, Brendan. At the 3-quarter mark, Yancoal is well positioned to going into the final quarter of the year. We've completed the Kestrel acquisition, strengthened our cash position and maintained operational momentum across our portfolio. We're targeting increased production in the December quarter, looking for improved realized pricing and aiming to keep our operating costs manageable despite higher diesel prices. We look forward to speaking with you again when we release our fourth quarter report in January. Thank you for joining us today. Have a great day.

Brendan Fitzpatrick

executive
#53

Thank you. Desmond, could you please conclude the call?

Operator

operator
#54

That concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.

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