Airbus SE (AIR) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
October 28, 2026
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Airbus 9-Month 2026 Earnings Release Conference Call. I'm Laura, the operator for this conference. Please note that for the duration of the presentation, all participants will be in listen-only mode, and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Jean-Christophe Henoux, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Jean-Christophe Henoux
executiveThank you, Laura, and a very warm welcome to everyone joining us today to dive into our 9-Month 2026 results. I'm in Amsterdam alongside our CEO, Guillaume Faury, and our CFO, Thomas Toepfer, who are here to break down the numbers and take your questions. This call is planned to last 1 hour, including Q&A, and the replay plus transcript will be available on our website. Today's presentation and the detailed financial statements are already available on Airbus' website. Before we start, let me remind you that we will be making some forward-looking statements. I encourage you to take a look at the safe harbor statement in our presentation slides. It's important stuff, please have a quick read. With that, let's get things started. Guillaume, the floor is yours.
Guillaume Faury
executiveThank you, JC, and good day, ladies and gentlemen. Hello, everyone. We appreciate your joining us today for the 9-Month 2026 earning call. Thomas and I, as JC mentioned, are in Amsterdam to walk you through our results. First, I want to offer my deepest sympathies to all those impacted by the terrible train accident in Spain earlier today. Our thoughts go out to the victims, their families, and the first responders handling the accident. It occurred on a line linking Madrid and Seville, two cities that are very dear to us here at Airbus. Turning ahead, the worldwide geopolitical and operating environment continues to be complex for Airbus and its customers, who are dealing with volatile jet fuel prices. Against that background, we keep our upward trajectory, pushing ahead with our civil and military ramp-up to deliver on our strong backlog. Turning to our divisions, defense momentum stays strong in Europe and globally. Our portfolio keeps demonstrating its essential role in ensuring sovereignty and security. In our commercial business, we delivered 196 aircraft in Q3, bringing our year-to-date deliveries to 547, up from 507 over the same period last year, 40 more. While achieving this, we are addressing two quality topics that I will detail later.
Guillaume Faury
executiveOnce again, our delivery profile is weighted toward the back end. Right now, our teams are fully mobilized to make the year-end rally a success. Against that backdrop, EBIT adjusted came in at €4.5 billion, free cash flow before customer financing was -€1.3 billion, and our 2026 guidance is unchanged. Let's now turn to the commercial environment. Beginning with commercial aircraft, passenger traffic proved largely resilient despite the volatile backdrop, while air cargo continues its upward trend. We are still watching closely how the macroeconomic environment might affect air traffic and our customers. Our robust and diversified backlog underpins our own company's resilience. In 9-Month 2026, we booked 1,174 gross orders, comprising 182 A220s, 830 for the A320 Family, and 67 A330s. For the A350, we booked 95 gross orders, among them 34 A350 Freighters, which underpins our strong widebody order momentum. Net orders totaled 1,105 aircraft, including 69 cancellations, which were largely embedded in our backlog valuation at full-year 2025. Our backlog in units stood at 9,310 aircraft at the end of September 2026. Let me highlight the growth we anticipate for the services market, as outlined in our latest Global Services Forecast, which projects that market demand will double over the next 20 years.
Guillaume Faury
executiveAirbus offers a comprehensive set of services spanning the whole aircraft lifecycle, and our ambitions in that area are considerable. Turning to Helicopters, during the 9 months we recorded 311 net orders, versus 306 across the same 9 months of 2025. That order intake covers 10 of the so-called UH-72B, the Lakota helicopters, destined for the US Army to modernize its fleet, and those are derived from the widely successful H145. Regarding the H225M, Romania's government has signed a contract to procure 12 Airbus multi-role helicopters. That contract is the second one Romania and Airbus Helicopters have signed within the framework of the European Union SAFE initiative. Last, we marked the official launch of series production of the H140 in Germany — excellent, the H140 helicopter — with the first airframe successfully built on the newly set-up assembly line earlier this quarter. All in all, we keep seeing good momentum across both the civil and military markets and stay fully focused on delivering on expectations. Last, on Defence and Space, we continue to observe very strong order dynamics for the division, with order intake at €11.5 billion across all segments, €11.5 billion in the 9 months. That's very strong. In Q3, we secured strong wins in Space Systems, driven by the growing momentum towards European strategic autonomy.
Guillaume Faury
executiveOne thing worth highlighting is that Eutelsat chose Airbus to construct another 229 OneWeb low Earth orbit satellites. Beyond that, it's encouraging to see IRIS² advancing as a European program, and our contribution will involve building platforms for no fewer than 66 LEO satellites. At this point, Thomas will walk you through the financials. Thomas?
Thomas Toepfer
executiveYes, thank you so much, Guillaume, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to this call. I'm currently on page 6 of the deck, and I'd be glad to walk you through how we performed financially. Let's begin with revenues, which appear on the left side of the chart. You'll note that our 9-Month 2026 revenues rose to €50.6 billion, an increase of 7% year-on-year. This primarily mirrors greater commercial aircraft deliveries along with a larger contribution from our Defence and Space division, though it was partly offset by the weaker US dollar relative to the 9 months of 2025. As shown on the right side of the chart, our R&D expenses kept rising as expected, in particular to back the acceleration of the defense portfolio, and R&D came to €2.3 billion at the end of September 2026. Moving to EBIT adjusted on the following page, our 9-Month 2026 EBIT adjusted grew 8% to €4.5 billion, up from €4.1 billion across the 9 months of 2025. This mirrors the greater commercial aircraft deliveries, a robust performance in Defence and Space, again partly offset by a less favorable hedge rate and the increased R&D expenses I mentioned earlier.
Thomas Toepfer
executiveTurning now to the EBIT adjustments — they came in at plus €55 million for the 9 months of 2026, and you'll find them on the right-hand side of the page. That €55 million figure comprised a positive €270 million effect from the dollar working capital mismatch and balance sheet revaluation, largely reflecting the mechanical impact arising from the gap between transaction date and delivery date, with positive €146 million of that in Q3. Offsetting this was a negative €235 million tied to integrating the former Spirit AeroSystems work packages, negative €112 million of which fell in Q3. Then back to positive: €60 million connected with the Airbus Defence and Space workforce adaptation plan, unchanged since Q2. Last but not least, negative €40 million in other costs, including M&A, of which positive €3 million came in Q3. All of this brings our 9-Month 2026 EBIT reported to a positive €4.6 billion. The financial result, which you can see on the lower right-hand side of the page, was positive €155 million, mainly reflecting revaluation of certain equity investments and the participations held in the venture capital funds managed by Airbus Ventures. Those are partly offset by revaluation of financial instruments and by the evolution of the US dollar.
Thomas Toepfer
executiveThe tax rate for the core business is still hovering at about 27%. The effective tax rate, though, comes in near 25%, and that includes the non-taxable effect of revaluing some financial investments, partly offset by the impact of the French surtax. Looking ahead to 2026, we anticipate the French surtax will be roughly on par with 2025, which, as you may remember, came to about €0.2 billion. Net income as a result rose 36%, reaching €3.6 billion across the first 9 months of the year, which works out to earnings per share of €4.54, and our 9-Month 2026 adjusted EPS was €4.26, calculated on an average of 790 million shares. Let's move on now and examine our coverage of US dollar exposure. During the 9 months of 2026, $17.1 billion in forwards reached maturity, and the related EBIT impact and euro conversions were realized at a blended rate of $1.20, compared with $1.18 in the 9 months of 2025. Across the first 9 months of 2026, we put in place $15.7 billion of new coverage spanning a 5-year horizon, using a mix of instruments that includes collars. The blended rate of $1.21 on those additions reflects in particular the least favorable rate among our collars, which carry weight mainly toward the outer year of our hedging period.
Thomas Toepfer
executiveSo because of that, our total portfolio covered in US dollars comes to $74.4 billion, with an average blended rate of $1.22, compared with $75.8 billion at a blended rate of $1.22 at the close of 2025. Now let's turn to the next page for a closer look at free cash flow. Free cash flow before customer financing came in at -€1.3 billion across the 9 months of 2026, and that outflow was primarily driven by the working capital change. As you'll remember, this notably mirrors the inventory buildup tied to our back-end loaded delivery profile, along with the planned ramp-up in support of our businesses. CapEx for 9-Month 2026 was €2.4 billion, and to support our ramp-up and the successful integration of the former Spirit AeroSystems work packages, we expect CapEx to keep rising in 2026, as mentioned earlier, no change. Free cash flow was -€1.1 billion, including customer financing of positive €0.2 billion, and across the 9 months of 2026 we continue to see a diverse and competitive financing landscape, and at present we expect sufficient liquidity to support our 2026 deliveries. Overall, as you can see on the right-hand side of the page, our net cash position was €7 billion as at the end of September, which also reflects the dividend payment and the acquisition of Uniha, slightly offset by the strengthening US dollar environment, and of course, our liquidity stayed strong at around €30 billion.
Thomas Toepfer
executiveSo with that said, I'd like to turn things back over to Guillaume.
Guillaume Faury
executiveThanks, Thomas. Let's begin with commercial aircraft. During the 9-Month 2026, we handed over 547 aircraft to 84 customers — that's 40 more aircraft than in the comparable period a year earlier — comprising 68 A220s, 428 A320 Family aircraft, and 51 widebodies. Our targeted production rates remain unchanged, and we keep pushing the ramp-up forward. Both of our second A320 Family FALs, in the US and in China, are delivering now, and we just inaugurated a new delivery center in Toulouse, which are key milestones as we develop our global footprint. Regarding the A350 Freighter, I'd like to underscore once more the successful completion of its maiden flight, taking us one major step closer to handing this game-changing aircraft over to the air cargo market. That marks the beginning of the flight test campaign ahead of entry into service in the second half of 2027, so no change there. On engines, the picture is also largely the same. For the A320 Family, Pratt & Whitney engines are still the main so-called pacing item for the ramp-up, but we expect to get what we need in order to reach our 2026 objectives. On Spirit, nearly a year after acquiring the former Spirit AeroSystems work packages, integration is still challenging, but our teams are on it.
Guillaume Faury
executiveI also want to bring you up to speed on a couple of quality matters. First, regarding the A321: we found a deviation in surface protection on a particular stringer, and that is creating a near-term effect on the timing of our operational flow — so, my apologies, it's on specific stringers, not merely one, but a series of stringers. The problem has been contained, a fix exists, and every stringer that has been newly coated meets the requirements. We are delivering the aircraft concerned. This is not a safety matter, and the in-service fleet keeps flying. A second quality matter I'd like to brief you on affects the A330. We have examined all aircraft in production after a finding in a horizontal tail plane. We acted right away, we strengthened our controls, and every aircraft now leaving production has been inspected and is deliverable. On the whole, we keep producing according to plan, and our commercial ramp-up is continuing. Now let's turn to the financials for the commercial aircraft business. Revenues were up 8% year-on-year, chiefly reflecting the higher deliveries and increased services, partly offset by the weaker US dollar. EBIT adjusted rose to €3.4 billion from €3.3 billion in the 9 months of 2025, driven by the higher deliveries, partly offset by higher R&D and a less favorable hedge rate.
Guillaume Faury
executiveTurning to Helicopters, we handed over 226 rotorcraft during the 9 months, which is 8 more than in the 9-Month 2025. Revenue was essentially flat at €5.6 billion, while EBIT adjusted came in at €445 million, and both numbers reflect a delivery mix that was less favorable. Let's wrap up our review with Defence and Space. Revenue rose 5% year-on-year to €9.3 billion, powered by greater volumes across every business unit. Those volumes, together with improved overall profitability, produced an EBIT adjusted of €672 million. On R&D, the operational ramp-up is still proceeding gradually. The Q3 increase partly reflects a one-off catch-up effect. Now turning to our 2026 guidance, which remains unchanged, the company assumes no further disruptions to global trade or the world economy, air traffic, the supply chain, its internal operations, and ability to deliver products and services. The company's 2026 guidance is before M&A and includes the impact of currently applicable tariffs. On that basis, the company targets in 2026 around 870 commercial aircraft deliveries, an EBIT adjusted of around €7.5 billion, and a free cash flow before customer financing of around €4.5 billion. With that — and this is the last slide — we will close with our key priorities. Before I hand over to you for the Q&A, let me summarize what is driving Team Airbus as we head into the final stretch of the year.
Guillaume Faury
executiveIn every one of our businesses, what we're focused on is meeting the strong demand and expectations of our customers, and safety and quality sit at the heart of everything we do. In these complex and, as I put it, fast-changing environments, our priorities are clear, and our teams are fully mobilized to meet our objectives. With that, I guess Thomas and I are now ready for your questions. To do that, I'll hand things over to JC. JC, the floor is yours.
Jean-Christophe Henoux
executiveThanks, Guillaume, and thanks, Thomas. So we can get through the Q&A efficiently, let me lay out a few guidelines. First, before you dive in, please introduce yourself and your company. Second, we ask that you limit yourself to two questions so everyone has a chance to ask one. Finally, please try to keep a steady pace and speak clearly. With that, Laura, could you please explain the Q&A procedure for participants?
Operator
operatorThanks. At this point we'll open it up for questions. To ask one, hit #5 on your phone's keypad. Our first question comes from Ross Law at Morgan Stanley. Go ahead, please.
Ross Law
analystGood evening, and thank you so much for taking my questions. My first one concerns the supply chain and where the bottlenecks currently sit. You said engines are broadly tracking to plan, but where seats are concerned, Safran last week flagged a risk of delivery delays running from the end of this year into 2027. I'd be interested to know whether that could affect your ability to meet this year's guide, or whether that risk is already embedded in your planning assumptions. My second question is about the buyback. You announced a €5 billion buyback back in July, with an ambition to start it in the second half. It would be great to hear your updated thoughts on the timing of the launch here, given your confidence in full-year guidance and the fact that the stock has pulled back ever since the summer. Thanks.
Guillaume Faury
executiveYes, thank you so much for those questions. I'll address the first one, and then pass things to Thomas for the share buyback question. On the risks and bottlenecks, those are in fact incorporated into the delivery guidance we have reaffirmed. Within the supply chain, we called out the engines, since they truly are the pacing item—the one generating the greatest tension on the A320 Family. As for the others, we keep confronting a difficult situation with the former Spirit AeroSystems work packages, as you recall, and it remains the case that section 15 for the A350 sits on the critical path, but once again, all of that is incorporated in the year-end outlook, and we believe we have what we need to keep ramping at the pace we previously highlighted toward the production rates provided for the 220, 320, 330, and 350. Nothing new on that front at this moment, and with that, I'll hand over to you for the share buyback question, Thomas.
Thomas Toepfer
executiveRight. Like you mentioned, we announced the share buyback at the air show this summer, and we stated that the ambition was to begin it in the second half of this year. Naturally, I don't want to get ahead of any potential official announcement about the share buyback, but what I can say is that our view hasn't changed at all. The ambition remains the same, so we see no reason to depart from that. Once more, I don't want to get ahead of things or jump to anything that would come across as an official announcement. Stay tuned, and again, our ambition is unchanged.
Operator
operatorMuch appreciated. Our following question is from Benjamin Heelan with Bank of America. You have the floor.
Benjamin Heelan
analystYeah, good evening, everyone. Hope you're all doing okay. So, first question, Guillaume — you seem to be coming across as more negative when it comes to Spirit. Did something happen? Could you give us a bit of an update on that? And second, where do things stand in your talks with Pratt regarding engine deliveries for next year? Thanks.
Guillaume Faury
executiveHi, Ben. Thanks. We're doing fine, and I hope things are going well for you too. Honestly, whether you look at Spirit or Pratt, the situation hasn't shifted. Spirit was a tough integration and it still is, and it's quite complex — I'm not sure whether I come across as more negative than I did previously, but when we went into this acquisition, we understood we were taking on demanding work packages. Section 15 sits on the critical path of the 350, and that's still true. With Pratt, again no change. We keep working off the same assumptions. There's nothing positive or negative I can report on that call. We believe we have what's needed for 2026, and for 2027 the figures remain the same. Our ramp-up assumptions still rest on the same engine count from the two manufacturers, Pratt included, for next year. In essence, the substance is unchanged.
Operator
operatorOur following question comes from Chloé Lemarié at Jefferies. Chloé, you have the floor.
Chloé Lemarié
analystYes, good evening, Guillaume, Thomas, and JC. Thanks for taking my question. My first one is about the A321 and the stringers issue. That still appears to be something of a pacing item. Could you perhaps tell us how many aircraft are currently being held back because of this problem? My second question concerns Project Bromo. From your viewpoint, could you give an update on the timeline, any pacing item, and any of the proposed remedies that have been submitted to the authorities? Thank you.
Guillaume Faury
executiveI appreciate the questions. The second one I'll hand over to Thomas. Regarding the stringers, as I mentioned, what it does is alter the timing and how quickly we execute over the near term. From a technical standpoint, it won't cause any aircraft to go undelivered this year. That's our current expectation, and it's the most I can tell you. It's an operational challenge that we're working through. It creates extra work and will impose additional constraints on the aircraft's life that we're handling together with customers, but as far as the 2026 deliveries go, I don't anticipate any impact, or any significant impact, on them.
Thomas Toepfer
executiveLet me perhaps say a few words about Bromo. I'd also say there's no fundamental change here. Let me remind you of what's on our plate for 2026 and what lies ahead of us going into 2027. For 2026, we essentially have three major tasks to complete. One is the discussion with the antitrust authorities. Those talks are constructive, but they haven't been concluded yet. I'll come back to that in a moment. Second, we have negotiations with our social partners. There, we've broadly wrapped up the negotiations, so we're well on track on that front, which obviously is largely within our own control. Number three, as we've always said, 2026 will be marked by some heavy work on carve-out, specifically for Airbus, because the assets we want to contribute into Bromo are spread across several legal entities, so there's quite a bit of carve-out work to be done. That is also progressing according to plan. Having said that, what we don't fully control when it comes to timing is obviously the antitrust process. As I said, it's constructive. We're responding to all the requests coming to us out of Brussels, but it hasn't been concluded yet. So I would say our ambition is completely unchanged.
Thomas Toepfer
executiveOur ideal goal is to reach a signed definitive agreement during 2026, and that signing would serve as the prerequisite for completing the deal in 2027. Once more, not all of it lies entirely within our hands, yet we stay optimistic about this transaction.
Operator
operatorSam Burgess from Goldman Sachs has the next question. Go right ahead.
Sam Burgess
analystGood afternoon, Guillaume, Thomas, and JC. It's nice to be on the call. My first question goes back to the stringer matter. Could I just verify whether that rework is taking place after the final assembly line? So perhaps the way to think about it is that it's creating some delay in deliveries, yet it isn't affecting the underlying production? Then, just regarding Spirit integration costs, I believe you've now recorded roughly €235 million of one-off charges through 9 months, as you said earlier on the call, Thomas, but that quarterly increase has stepped up quite a bit. Could you give us your expectation for the full-year cost here, and perhaps the trajectory of those one-off charges into 2027? Thanks.
Guillaume Faury
executiveSo for the stringers, once the problem was pinpointed, we had component parts, MCAs in production, we had aircraft in the FAL, in the final assembly line process, and we also had aircraft that had already been delivered. I don't have the count of aircraft or items in each of those different categories, but basically, it's not a safety issue for aircraft in service, and this has to be handled through the way maintenance will be carried out going forward. There's work underway and discussion with customers about how to deal with this. I don't think it's really critical, but it needs to be managed. For aircraft that are in the production process at different stages of production, we are correcting the topic, and aircraft continue to be delivered. It takes time, it has had a short-term impact as we had to understand the situation, to do the investigation, to understand the criticality, and then find the appropriate measures. As I said earlier, we took the appropriate measures, we correct the situation, and aircraft will be delivered. When it comes to the full-year 2026 deliveries, we don't expect impact on the deliveries, or at least not that I know, and in any case, not significant impact.
Thomas Toepfer
executiveLet me perhaps address the Spirit item. The headline, naturally, is that integration is still difficult, yet there is nothing fundamentally different, which means our financial perspective on the deal has not changed either. Let me restate our approach. We anticipate a low triple-digit EBIT impact in 2026. What has been visible after 9 months, I would say, aligns with that path. We stated as well that the cash impact would be considerably larger, amounting to a high triple-digit effect in 2026. What accounts for that? Since, beyond integration costs, we are of course accumulating working capital to smooth the production flow, and some investments are needed to get Spirit ready for the ramp-up, particularly for the A350. On this figure too, I would say we remain on track, and so there is no update regarding our financial projections for Spirit.
Operator
operatorUp next, we have a question from Ian Douglas-Pennant at UBS. Go right ahead.
Ian Douglas-Pennant
analystHi. Thanks. This is Ian Douglas-Pennant from UBS. Could you help us frame how we should think about 2026? What headwinds do you anticipate in Q4 that would leave EBIT roughly flat versus a year earlier for this year, which is what your guidance suggests, at a time when deliveries will be higher than a year ago, as your delivery guidance implies? Second, I understand engines are a pacing item right now, and based on what you said earlier, it seems likely that this will persist at least through most of 2027. Please tell me if that's incorrect. After that, it appears to me — at least — that engines will no longer be a pacing item, and if anything you'll have a surplus of engines. Do you need to build inventory levels up again in 2027 to be ready for that point, so that production can be raised quickly afterward, or is that not the right way to look at it? Thank you.
Guillaume Faury
executivePerhaps I'll address the second question first, then pass things to Thomas. Engines are still going to be the pacing item for 2027 — that means the combined total of Pratt & Whitney and CFM engines. Nothing has changed relative to the assumptions we took before, and consistent with the business outlook we presented at the Farnborough Airshow, those assumptions remain the same. In fact, the delivery profile for 2026 and 2027 was constructed using the engine delivery profile Pratt gave at the start of this year, and there's no change to this point: if we were to receive more engines, or if we held a commitment for additional engines, we would plan for more aircraft deliveries — but we have matched how many aircraft we build to how many engines we anticipate receiving. Put differently, we are not building additional inventories, nor will we build them in 2027 — the so-called gliders — on the assumption that we would then receive far more engines in 2028. We have aligned the profile with the engine count we ultimately understood we would receive from Pratt & Whitney in particular, and from CFM as well. I hope that makes the plan clear. We produce in line with the number of engines we expect to receive.
Thomas Toepfer
executiveLet me address the remaining work for the final 3 months of the year. For context, our adjusted EBIT in Q4 last year came to €3 billion. What shifts do we anticipate in Q4 of 2026 versus 2025? Clearly, the biggest factor is the increase in our deliveries. Taking the midpoint of guidance at 870 deliveries, that implies 37 additional aircraft in Q4. Still, I'd offer a note of caution. Within those 37 aircraft, the share of A220s is somewhat higher than in the uplift we saw across the first 9 months, so not every one of the 37 comes with the full margin. Subtract what I'd describe as a small double-digit figure in absolute terms, then multiply by the customary €15 million, and that gets you approximately the right number to feed into your model for the volume and efficiency improvement in Q4. You also asked specifically about our headwinds. I believe we've already covered the Spirit matter — Spirit would be one headwind of the magnitude I outlined for Q4.
Thomas Toepfer
executiveThen second, R&D has a bit of back-end loading as well. In Q3 you saw R&D speed up. We are fully on the path we had anticipated for R&D, though that also implies a modest step-up in Q4. Lastly, you've noticed we hired some additional people — that's a small effect — but taking all three together, that gets you to the uplift for Commercial. And finally, for the remaining two divisions, Helicopters and Defence and Space, if you combine them, I wouldn't assume a large uplift; you can regard them as broadly stable or with a slight uplift. Putting all of that together, we believe we're on the correct trajectory not just for deliveries, but for the related financials too.
Operator
operatorOur following question is from Barclays, with Milène Kerner joining us. Kindly proceed.
Milène Kerner
analystYes, thanks. Bonjour, Guillaume, Thomas, and Jean-Christophe. This is Milène Kerner from Barclays. My first question is about the A320 Family. Setting the engine aside, I got the impression you sound more confident about the ramp-up now. What exactly has gotten better in recent months that explains why your tone has shifted, Guillaume? Then for Thomas, a second question about inventory. Across the A220, A350, and A320 Family, where is the largest amount of excess inventory held, and what would be needed to clear it without raising delivery risk? Thank you.
Guillaume Faury
executiveGood evening, Milène. What’s behind — I’m not sure whether it’s a more optimistic tone or a more positive tone on the supply chain — is that basically the overall condition of the supply chain in supporting the A320 ramp-up mainly has indeed improved compared with previous years. That’s not inconsistent with what we have said already. Still, we are limited by engines. That’s the pacing item. We’ve been discussing this already earlier in this call, and as there’s no change on the perspective of number of engines, we continue to be on the same trajectory that supports the confidence we have for the ramp-up and confirming the outlook for this year also on the 320. Yes, it took years to get to that point, to have the recovery of the supply chain. We are not yet there everywhere. We have other difficulties, and seats were mentioned earlier. Interiors in general are a bit of a challenge. That we are suffering in the ramp-up on the A350 because of the section 15 of the A350, and therefore, the acquisition of Spirit and what I commented on already earlier on the call. A220 is going through a very steep ramp-up, quite satisfied with the outcome, and we are on trajectory.
Guillaume Faury
executiveOverall, the supply chain picture has improved, yet we still have plenty of topics where we're working to iron out challenges. Quality is what remains on watch. To be more regular and more predictable, we need a better quality environment. Earlier on the call I commented on two quality issues: one is an internal, self-generated topic involving an FOD on the A330, and the other concerns the stringers, which highlights the challenges of transfer of work and of managing a supply chain with a view to increasing resilience in this complex environment. We are active and we are moving things, but it comes with some challenges. Overall, we feel comfortable with the ramp-up. As you see, we are confirming the outlook for this year. At the Farnborough Airshow we were comfortable enough to give a 2029 mid-term target, and it is supported by the view we have, the confidence we have in the ability of the supply chain to serve us and support us in this ramp-up. The previous question?
Thomas Toepfer
executiveOn inventory, Milène, let me try to frame it properly. As you can see on our balance sheet, we've accumulated about €10 billion of inventory when you compare the 9-month mark, at €51 billion, with where we began the year, at €41 billion. I wouldn't describe that as excess inventory. I'd say that, given the circumstances we're in — a steep ramp-up — this is the inventory we want to hold and that we believe it makes sense to hold, since we don't want to create further bottlenecks internally by scrutinizing inventory too closely. The positive message, I think, is that we have what we need on our production lines to handle the steep ramp-up ahead of us in Q4. Naturally, from a steady-state standpoint, this inventory level isn't the right one. I'd say plainly that once we're at a stable rate — 75 for the A320 — there should be room to bring inventory down and squeeze out some cash. That isn't the case yet. We need to hold that rate steadily for a certain while.
Thomas Toepfer
executiveI won't go into too much detail on your question, but the largest opportunity when it comes to eventually bringing inventory down is in the programs with the sharpest ramp-up, and that is clearly the A320 and, to a lesser extent in absolute terms, the A350. Again, as we see it right now, this is the inventory level we ought to be carrying, and the opportunity arrives afterward, once we've reached a stable state.
Operator
operatorOur following question is from David Perry with JPMorgan. You have the floor.
David Perry
analystHello, and good evening, Guillaume, Thomas, and JC. I have two questions, please. First, we have seen a decent rally in the dollar, and it fluctuates, but if I simply plugged today's dollar rate into my model, it would produce an EBIT figure for me above your €12 billion to €13 billion range in 2029. That could be because my model is flawed, I don't know, but is there any reason you are firmly capped at €13 billion? Are there any negatives that could offset a more favorable FX rate? That is my first question. Then the second one, and I apologize for being a bit pedantic and returning to the stringers, just for clarification. You said, Guillaume, it won't affect deliveries this year. You always state that your delivery guidance is plus or minus 20, so I just wondered whether the stringer issue takes you to the lower end of 80 850 to 890. Also, you said very specifically that it wouldn't affect deliveries this year, and I just wondered whether it has any potential impact on 2027. Thank you.
Guillaume Faury
executiveI'll begin with the second one and then leave a little room for Thomas to respond. No, there won't be any effect on 2026 — or at least nothing significant, very minor if anything — and I'm not saying it moves us from the midpoint down to the low end. Broadly, we're comfortable with plus or minus 20 on this, since there's uncertainty around our ability to deliver and around what will actually come off the FALs by 31 December, but as I think you've gathered, we feel fairly at ease landing somewhere at 870 plus or minus 20, based on what we're seeing and what we have today. No, please don't read this as a trick. There's no trick here, and there's no trick for 2027 either. We don't expect this to affect 2027. Don't interpret the stringer quality issue as something with an impact similar to what we faced with the panel last year. Its nature is entirely different, and so is the type of impact on the product and on deliveries — meaning much smaller, simpler to handle, less disruptive for customers, and it doesn't alter our view on 2026 deliveries or 2027 deliveries either.
Thomas Toepfer
executiveOn the 2029 mid-term guidance, since none of us has a crystal ball about where the dollar will sit in 2029 or how it will move between now and then, what we've said, David, is that we assume a dollar rate of $1.22 for 2029, and that gives you the flexibility to use it as an input factor in your model. In the summer we also gave you the flexibility that each cent of variance is roughly $250 million in the model. Why did we handle it that way? Simply because we lack visibility. And where does the 1.22 come from? From today's perspective it might sound conservative, but when we assembled those numbers before the summer, the assumption was that if we had hedged the whole 2029 exposure with forwards, that would have roughly been the rate leading to 1.22; you can call it a theoretical exercise, and the reality will look different, and I would agree with that. We simply had to take an assumption, and then I think that gives you the input factors you can put into your model. I have full confidence that your model works perfectly, and I think with that you have the ingredients that you need.
Operator
operatorOur following question is from Doug Harned at Bernstein. You have the floor.
Douglas Harned
analystThank you. I have two questions. The first one takes us back to Spirit: if we look at the period before COVID, Spirit was turning out section 15 at a rate of 10 per month. They really were doing that, and they described it as cash-positive. Now that all of these transitions have played out, could you explain what is going wrong at Spirit today — whether it's labor, the supply chain, or anything else — that has made the situation so much harder, and what steps you're taking to fix it? My second question is whether you can give us a status update on the new variants that are planned, the A220 to 500 and the A350 to 2000, and in particular, anything new you can share about the engine selection for those.
Guillaume Faury
executiveOn the second point, quite a bit has already been said, I think. It's hard to know where to begin if I want to keep the answer reasonably brief. There are 2 programs where we are examining possible stretch variants. The first is the A220, with the 500 as the candidate stretched version, and the second is the A350 to 2000 — or whatever name you give it — as a possible stretched variant of the A350. We are moving toward a possible decision, though that does not mean the decision will be positive. We are assessing the opportunity and what the product would look like, verifying with partners and suppliers that we would be capable of running the program, confirming there is a business case that holds up, and engaging customers on how the product would look and what it would mean for them. We are in the analysis phase, before launch, and I am not implying that a launch decision has been made. That is not the situation. Even so, we are examining the opportunity. On engines — well, I would rather not get specific. Engine manufacturers and engine partners are significant partners with whom we are talking as we move toward the decision, and clearly the engine selection shapes many assumptions and carries many implications for how the business case looks, how the aircraft looks, and how the aircraft performs; it is an important element of what we are studying.
Guillaume Faury
executiveThat's pretty much it. I think we're also considering possible extra ramp-up on the A350. Lars Wagner has been quite explicit about that, given the very strong demand we're seeing for the A350 Family, and we believe there may be a chance to examine raising rates even higher than the rate 12 we're currently targeting. That might be the opening with Spirit. Why was it the way it was before COVID? As COVID hit, many companies took very significant decisions to shrink their operations and cut their cost base, and that has carried a lot of mid-term and long-term consequences. We have a large number of suppliers who had to rebuild a very significant portion of their operations as they came out of COVID, having survived the crisis. Spirit is a company that wasn't only serving Airbus — they were serving mostly our dear competitor Boeing while that competitor was going through difficult times, especially on the one program that was making Spirit most of its money, and they suffered big time during this period. Both of us — our competitor and ourselves — have been dealing with the situation of a company that was in a very difficult place as we began to ramp up, and you know what has happened since with Boeing's decision, and then afterwards Airbus's decision to acquire, for us, certain work packages, and for Boeing, a large part of the company.
Guillaume Faury
executiveWe carried this out at a moment when what we discovered, what needs fixing, and what needs doing is quite substantial, yet most of it stems from the company's history—from events between 2018 and 2019 and the situation we're in now. Truly, the ramp-up is hard work, keeping in mind that the program has had its ups and downs. Before COVID we were indeed near rate 10, no higher, and then we dropped to rate 4—in fact under rate 4 for certain months or quarters—after which it settled at rate 4, and today we're aiming for rate 12. As you can imagine, restoring the production system to the proper pace and quality level for the 350 is a considerable undertaking. My guess is your question focused mainly on the 350. I'll do my utmost to address your detailed question on those two points. Laura, let's take the final question, please.
Operator
operatorKen Herbert of RBC Capital Markets is up with our final question. Please go ahead.
Ken Herbert
analystYes, hello. Good afternoon or good evening. Thanks for taking the question. If I could, just two final questions. First, really strong bookings, with the trend continuing through the third and obviously 9 months straight in the defense business. Can you discuss what you expect for continued strength in defense bookings into the fourth quarter and into 2027, and how we think or how we should model the conversion of those bookings into revenue growth, and could we be seeing perhaps better revenue growth in the defense business than what you've previously been communicating? Then second, on the 321XLR, there's been a fair amount written on the extra weight on that program to accommodate the fuel tank. Can you talk about momentum on that program and whether we should start to see maybe an upturn in orders on the 321XLR? Thank you.
Thomas Toepfer
executiveLet me perhaps begin with that first question. Yes, I'd have to agree with you there. The order intake we're seeing across the opening 9 months of this year makes us happy and pleased — that's the 70% uplift. Perhaps more significantly, I think the takeaway is that the order momentum we're witnessing is holding up very strongly, and at Airbus, within our Defence and Space division, we're capitalizing on that momentum. Customers have faith in us; they want us to be a major player when it comes to European sovereignty, and I think this order intake reflects all of that. Predicting Q4 is somewhat tricky, since defense order intake tends to be lumpy — sometimes we're dealing with very large orders — and it's hard, let's say, to forecast or commit to precisely what will unfold in Q4. I wouldn't rule out, in fact, that we're heading into another — or that 2026 will prove yet another genuine record year for Defence and Space. Keep in mind that 2025 was a record year for order intake, and it surpassed the 2024 record. That demonstrates we're truly on a solid trajectory, and I think the broad message is that we're confident this momentum will carry on, no matter what the precise Q4 figure turns out to be.
Thomas Toepfer
executiveThat also demonstrates, I believe, that ADS can improve its margin. That's what we anticipate, though I definitely won't provide any fresh guidance regarding their EBIT path. What I would say is we feel confident they are on a solid trajectory toward reaching the roughly €1.3 billion we have factored into the total guidance for 2029. I'd add that the conditions we see at present clearly back that up.
Guillaume Faury
executiveOn the XLR, I haven't checked what share of A320 Family aircraft recently are XLRs. What I can say is that the proportion, the portion going to the A321, is very high and rising, and most of the backlog now sits on A321s. I believe we have roughly 500 XLRs in the backlog. I'm glancing at the team to see whether they can pull the exact number, but that's the rough magnitude. We keep seeing interesting momentum behind the product, and indeed customers give positive feedback on it and on how the XLR is used. It performs really well. Long-haul flying on the A321XLR genuinely feels good from a passenger experience standpoint, so that's something that pleases the airlines, our airline customers, very much, and the economics of the XLR on those kinds of routes comes back to us as something extremely efficient. I think we'll see continued success and momentum on the XLR, but since it's one share of the A321 Family, we treat it as part of the A321 Family. We also have the LR and the regular A321s, so that's a family of products — not to mention the A320 too — that makes sense as a whole, but this newest member of the family is performing well, and we expect it will keep performing well.
Jean-Christophe Henoux
executiveThanks, Guillaume and Thomas, and thanks to all of you. We genuinely appreciate that you made time to be with us today. Before we wrap up, I want to close on a personal note about Olivier Frébet, who is here in the room with us, since today marks his final disclosure. You're all familiar with him and clearly hold him in high regard, and for several years at Airbus he has served as an award-winning interface to the markets. Olivier, thank you for your outstanding contribution and your amazing support of Investor Relations over these past years. As you get ready for your next challenge, still at Airbus, know that you leave with our deepest gratitude and warmest wishes.
Guillaume Faury
executiveThanks, Olivier.
Jean-Christophe Henoux
executiveAs always, should anything else come to mind, feel free to get in touch. You can send a message to Victoria, to Olivier for the next few weeks, or to me, and we'll respond as promptly as we're able. That wraps up today's session. Enjoy your evening, everyone.
Guillaume Faury
executiveThanks, everybody. Many thanks. Goodbye.
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, that brings the conference to a close, and you’re welcome to hang up your phones now. Thanks for being with us, and we hope you have a pleasant evening. Goodbye.
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