Acuity Inc. (AYI) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

November 11, 2020

New York Stock Exchange US Industrials Electrical Equipment conference_presentation 30 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Timothy Wojs

analyst
#1

Good afternoon. Maybe good evening to some of you. Thank you for joining us. And I'm Tim Wojs, and I cover building products here at Baird, and we're very excited to have the management team of Acuity Brands with us at the conference today. Acuity is one of the leading manufacturers globally of lighting fixtures, lighting controls and other digital lighting technologies. From the company, we have Neil Ashe, who's President and CEO; we have Karen Holcom, SVP and CFO; and then we have Pete Shannin, who is VP of IR and Corporate Development. We're going to start off with a few kind of prepared remarks and slides from Neil, and then we'll jump into Q&A. So Neil, the floor will be yours.

Neil Ashe

executive
#2

Tim, thanks. It's great to be with everyone. And before we jump in, if I could ask you to spend just a copy of second on our forward-looking statements as we jump in. So with that, I'd like to take this opportunity to introduce our company to those of you who don't know us, and also to reintroduce our company to those of us who do. We're an industrial company with leading positions in lighting, lighting controls and components and intelligent building applications, as Tim mentioned. We have a very efficient business model with high cash generation. And over the last -- a little bit, we performed exceptionally well this year. We've outperformed our direct competitors in lighting. And we've done it while maintaining gross margins. And we delivered record free cash flow of over $450 million in our fiscal year, which ended in August. We're embarking on a transformation of our company through the introduction of technology and software, both in what we do and in how we do it. We're well positioned, both for the current market as well as the inevitable rebound. We expect to outgrow the lighting industry and to take share. In the near term, we expect gross margins to be around their current levels. And over time, we expect gross margins to be in the low to mid-40s, and operating margins to expand as business returns to prior levels and hopefully, beyond. We expect our Intelligent Buildings group to outgrow the end market, and we also expect for them to self-fund the lion's share of our increased investment in technology. And finally, our strong cash generation and low leverage allow us to invest in our current businesses, grow through acquisitions, maintain our dividend and create value for shareholders through share repurchase. We're building from a position of strength. Our core Lighting and Lighting Controls business, as Tim mentioned, is the market leader in North America, with leadership positions in most of the largest categories. Our portfolio of products serves a diverse collection of end users in a variety of industries: industrial; utility; commercial; office; health care; education; retail and residential. And as the market has changed over the last few quarters, we've been able to flex to where the business is. For example, we've been strong in industrials as customers have rushed to scale up in e-commerce. We had a strong summer of retail outlets as more end users invested in their homes and small offices. We had a strong summer in education as school districts took advantage of open buildings to accelerate needed renovations. At the same time, our enterprise account sales were relatively barren as those customers were so busy that they could not conduct renovations. But obviously, they'll need to get back to those in the future. And with Distech, we have a valuable company that systems integrators and building owners are realizing has the high-quality, flexible technology that allows them to solve their problems of today as well as tomorrow. As we look forward, there's a truism about technology that the impact of technology is overestimated in the short term and underestimated in the long term. And as we embark on the next-generation of Acuity, the term transformation is exciting to many and candidly scary to some. The good news is we've done this before, in Internet 1.0, in media and in commerce, at some of the largest and most important companies in the world. We are not an industrial company trying to figure out how to do technology. We are a unique combination of domain expertise in the industries that we serve and in the technology that will change them. In our core Lighting business, we are calling the transformation better, smarter, faster, which is exactly what it is. We are reevaluating our business processes with a keen focus on customers. By simplifying those processes, we can eliminate time and increase service levels. Simply put, we will be better. The simplification of our processes, combined with the power of data and machine learning, will make us smarter. We have an industry-leading path to market with an unmatched network of independent sales agents. Our work will make both us and them stronger. The end user building owners and contractors will see higher levels of service from us. We also have outstanding product development, and we will be reinvesting our savings in time and resources into improving the vitality of our products. Simply put, we will be faster. We are also refocusing our efforts at Distech and Atrius. We will be combining them into a group that we are calling Intelligent Buildings. And we expect to be the company that finally makes buildings intelligent. And here, too, we begin from a position of strength. Distech has outstanding technology that is built on open protocols and is well positioned for what buildings will need to be able to do in the future. Atrius has installed sensory networks through lighting that are capital-efficient and foundational for high-quality location-aware applications. We intend to build applications that deliver demonstrable value on top of these core building blocks. This will take time, but we are excited about the potential. So in summary, we are building from a position of strength, both in core Lightings and in Intelligent Buildings. We are a unique combination of expertise in the industries we serve and in the technology that will change them. We have an efficient business model that allows us to generate significant cash, and we have the ability to use that cash to grow our current businesses, grow our company through acquisition and create value for shareholders through share repurchase. So Tim, with that introduction, I'll turn it back to you, and we can cover any questions that you'd like to talk about.

Timothy Wojs

analyst
#3

Great, great. Thanks for the comments, Neil. [Operator Instructions] Those will be sent to me, and we'll also -- just to lever, we will have a breakout session after this to field some further questions. Maybe just to start, Neil, I mean, you've been with Acuity for -- as CEO for a little less than a year. I mean, obviously, you're on the Board before that. Just from your comments, if I can paraphrase it, it does sound like you think you have good bones in terms of the structure. What are some of the areas that you think you could really change or mold, add Acuity to really kind of take advantage of some of those things like market positioning and new product development, things that you mentioned as positive?

Neil Ashe

executive
#4

Yes, Tim, that's a great introduction. And I get asked this question a lot, is like kind of what are your initial observations of Acuity. And I would say that basically, it's great clay. It starts with a collection of super talented individuals who are intelligent, forward-thinking and want to change to succeed in the future. The lighting business is strategically relevant. It puts us in every building. If you look back to kind of the places that I've been in the past, the nation's largest broadcast network and the world's largest physical retailer, people don't need to watch broadcast networks anymore and they may not need to go to retail stores. But I can't imagine a scenario where anything gets built that doesn't involve lights. So that provides us a continuity of business and an introduction to different places that is obviously permanent and is a great place to build on. And it also ensures that we're going to continue to generate cash with that. And then the interesting option is the ability for us to introduce technology to how we run the core business, but also to develop the businesses around Intelligent Buildings and where those can go. So I would say, Tim, in summary, that the -- we've got great clay to build, what I hope will be a very important industrial technology company for a long time to come.

Timothy Wojs

analyst
#5

Okay, okay. Great. And you mentioned, as part of your prepared remarks that technology -- and I've heard you mentioned this on conference calls, too, that technology in the short term is kind of overestimated and in the long term is kind of underestimated. As you think about Intelligent Buildings and Atrius and some of those opportunities, where do you see the most significant opportunity within Intelligent Buildings? Because it does seem that there's a lot of focus on that from investors a few years ago, maybe didn't come through relative to expectations. And so as you kind of think about rebuilding that, where are you most excited?

Neil Ashe

executive
#6

I'd focus on 2 things, Tim. It's -- my experience is that companies and end users don't buy technology, they buy the benefits of technology. So what's it going to do for me is what they really want to buy. They don't want to buy speeds and feeds or widgets. And as we've assessed building technology, I would say that the existing solutions are highly vulcanized. So there's -- obviously, there have been ways to try and build around that, but they're vulcanized. And they're not consistent with the technology platforms that are being developed in other areas, so distributed networks and the applications that can be built on those distributed networks. And so when you think about -- or at least the way we think about it is we have got kind of 3 big pieces to the puzzle. We've got sensory and control networks, which is kind of the eyes, ears and muscles inside the building. So that's Atrius' location-aware applications through the luminaires, that's the Distech Controls. We have the operating system that powers that. And then we have the opportunity to build applications in the cloud, which makes those actually valuable and delivers that back to our customers. And so we think we're coming out at a different way than others have, which is not to say that what's out there isn't good so far. It's just, I think, that there's more that we can do.

Timothy Wojs

analyst
#7

Okay, okay. Great. When you think about investments, I mean, it sounds like there are going to be some incremental investments, but can you just kind of talk about, in your prepared comments, it did sound like it'd be mostly self-funded. So I'm not sure if there's a way to frame the types of investments that you need to make and maybe the source of that self-funding?

Neil Ashe

executive
#8

Yes. Sure. So let me start with the core Lighting business. As we've all kind of dealt with a smaller end market, we've been effective in making that business more efficient. So we've been able to maintain our gross margins through the last couple of quarters. Our operating margins have decreased some, but we've obviously maintained or done a pretty decent job, I think, of controlling costs. We're well positioned there to rebound and to grow and, I think, expand margins when we do. There's investments that we're currently making, which are embedded in these numbers in the technology, which powers that business. So the underlying technology, as I said, what we do and how we do it. On the Intelligent Building side, I think the combination of Distech and Atrius can mostly fund itself. My expectation to be transparent with you when I came was that we were going to have to take margins down to invest in that business. But I feel pretty good about our current levels of -- and our ability for that business to self-fund itself. We won't have large margins out of the gate, we'll probably have slightly negative margins, but it's not going to be a material change to the margins of the business. And then once we've done the kind of done the transformation at the core Lighting business, then we've got the tool set, the skills and the experience to go start to replicate that in other sectors.

Timothy Wojs

analyst
#9

Okay, okay. Great. A question here from the audience related to that. How does Distech compete against some of the larger kind of BMS companies like Honeywell and JCI?

Neil Ashe

executive
#10

I'd identify 2 key differences between Distech and those that they're competing with. First, on the technology side. They're built on open protocols, so they have always been the -- built on BACnet and the open protocols. And so there's an opportunity for scalability and doing some things differently that incorporates. And that was what I was alluding to and I mentioned kind of where things need to go. The second thing I'd identify is that they have a network of independent systems integrators around Europe and North America. So they're not dependent on their on the maintenance contracts of their own department. So those 2 things are -- make them kind of look very -- look and smell very different than, say, a Honeywell or Schneider or Siemen, somebody like that.

Timothy Wojs

analyst
#11

Okay, okay. Fair enough. And when you think about -- maybe just -- we've talked a lot about maybe some of the technology and the digital aspects. Obviously, there's been a lot of chatter about UVC and some of the agreements that you've made in that area. How do you think of the UVC market? I think there's 2 schools of thought. One is there's maybe this near-term opportunity that kind of goes away with a vaccine. And then there's another that says, hey, buildings are just going to kind of change how they think through these types of things, and there's a longer-term game here. So how would you kind of frame the UVC opportunity for Acuity?

Neil Ashe

executive
#12

Tim, we're thinking about it in terms of the latter as opposed to the former. Our observation out of the gate was that most of what would be launched immediately would be more slideware than actual difference maker. And so what we've tried to do is assemble through these relationships. The Ushio relationship was underway long before COVID, around 222, and then Puro around kind of the pulsed xenon technology, and there are some others in the wings. We wanted to create what we believe would be long-term solutions for people that made the decision over time that this is something that they needed to have. So we decided that whatever happened immediately out of the gate would be a short-term blip. But if we wanted to build a longer-term solution, we would need to do that. So we've assembled this network. And now we can incorporate that in our luminaires and our distribution -- our go-to-market network going forward, and both on the luminaire side and importantly as well through the HVAC side. So with Distech and the controls because basically, with all these UV solutions, they're really -- the controls element is equally as important as any of the lighting technology and [Audio Gap] So we and the industry are working through the relationship between what people are prepared to invest in that future and whether -- and obviously, you can make an ROI calculation based on the current market that you should spend whatever it costs, but we all know people aren't going to do that. So we need to meet that sweet spot.

Timothy Wojs

analyst
#13

Right, right. That's fair enough. That's fair enough. When we think about -- if we kind of step back and think about the core Lighting business, obviously, a fair amount of exposure to nonresidential construction, and that's been a little bit challenged with COVID-19 and some of the put and place numbers. How do you think about volumes from an end market perspective over the next 12 months? And what are some of the levers you can use to make sure that Acuity is at least taking share or growing above the market?

Neil Ashe

executive
#14

Yes. So -- and I alluded to this some in my remarks, I think one of the things that, obviously, as a newcomer, I can be relatively dispassionate about the analysis of these. But I would say what's attractive about kind of where we sit is that we basically serve all the end markets. So yes, it all sums to a total construction number in some ways. But as I mentioned, education was solid for us in the summer as schools were empty, so the renovation projects could happen. And as I mentioned, lights, you can't build anything without lights. And so for us, change is good. So whether that's building a new building or changing existing building, you can't really do that without changing out the lights. So as long as there's activity, we'll be fine. So the levers for us, and this is as you kind of understand our performance historically and then think about it kind of prospectively, I've looked at the data relatively dispassionately. And I would say that there's been fluctuation in 2 areas that everyone's aware of, which is retail as we've transitioned from one relationship to another. And then the second is around these enterprise accounts, which are naturally lumpy. But as I've said in other communication with you is, our very attractive pieces of business that we want to keep. So as we look -- and then I would say and I would observe that our independent sales network has been a consistent performer through the last 5 quarters. So it is relatively consistent through that. So as we look forward, I'd think the data looks the same to us that it looks to everybody else, which is, I believe we have a very consistent performer in our independent sales network that we can flex to where there are opportunities in the market, and there will be business, obviously, in the marketplace. And we can flex to where that business is. And so there isn't, as you know, great data on the industry so that we could say definitively that XYZ said that we gained share, but I'm confident that our performance over the last couple of quarters has demonstrated that we're in taking share. And as you look forward, the data, as we've normalized it internally would say that we're -- we have a high correlation to total construction, absent those 2 volatile elements that I described. And so we're going to lean into change. So whether that's new construction or renovation, you need our lights to -- you need our luminaires and our controls to do it.

Timothy Wojs

analyst
#15

Right. Okay, okay. And when I think of Acuity and some of the competitive advantages they've had historically, I mean, its scale, how efficiently you're able to put products together and how you're able to distribute those. So if I kind of go down that list, I mean, in a tougher cost environment, I would imagine that would be an area where you can really lean in on to maybe selectively take price -- or not take price but to take share. So can you just maybe talk about how you think about managing those different levers? Because it does seem like you should have kind of a cost advantage, which actually could be in a price advantage and pretty much any type of project that you walk into.

Neil Ashe

executive
#16

Yes. And it's really about sequencing those in order of importance, Tim, is the way kind of we think about it. I will be honest with, I was surprised that the stock reacted the way it did to our fourth quarter. I thought we had an outstanding fourth quarter, but there's been so much discussion in the industry over the last several years about kind of the impact of price that from my perspective, we managed to a consistent gross margin. While we took share in units and at a relatively modest price concession, is the way I would describe kind of where we were. So -- and you highlight that we're the biggest, and therefore, we have the broadest opportunity to do that. And as a newcomer, it made perfect sense to me that we should do that. And so as we -- kind of as we look forward and you think about our component parts, our go-to-market effort through our independent sales network and our retail and enterprise relationships gives us access. We have the -- on our supply chain, we have a diverse and a flexible supply chain. So we can source finished goods from Asia as we need to. We can assemble in Mexico and the U.S. to serve North America, and have product flexibility and delivery flexibility that others, especially those products coming straight from Asia can't have. So we believe that, that's an advantage. Obviously, we have capacity, so we want to use up more of that capacity. And then finally, on product development, we have the ability to see that whole puzzle and put it all together. So a lot of the work that we've been doing around our product -- our upcoming product families incorporate a base product that can be manufactured in Asia and added features in that can be assembled at our facilities off the same designs. So we have the flexibility to span both Asian source as well as local assembly, which gives us an adaptability that we think is it's going to be really important, too, not just the current environment, but the longer-term market as well.

Timothy Wojs

analyst
#17

Okay, okay. That's very interesting. I mean, a big part of your cost structure, too, is also a componentry. And so when you think of the move from kind of analog lighting to more LED lighting, obviously, there's a there's a chip that goes in or several chips that go into these lights where you have this kind of efficacy improvement and deflation. Where do you think we are in that kind of cost curve? Because I think for the last couple of years, we've always been told, hey, things are kind of leveling out, and we should start seeing this kind of price down or price deflation. Do we think we're kind of closer to the end of seeing this incremental deflation here?

Neil Ashe

executive
#18

Yes, Tim, I think we were on a curve before, and it feels like we're on a little bit of a plateau now. But I would expect there to continue to be curves in the future. And so that's coming from a technology background, we're used to that, which is that it's -- the point is creative destruction and finding a way to introduce Moore's law to these products. And so I think that we -- yes, we are at a little bit of a plateau on what had been a curve before. But we want to lean into that ability to get a higher quality product, a more functional product to our end users at a lower price.

Timothy Wojs

analyst
#19

Okay, okay. That's great. And then maybe just kind of shifting over a little bit to cash flow and maybe the capital structure, a couple of incremental things that have happened over the last couple of months. I mean, it does sound like you're more willing to invest in share repurchases, and that you've even done some incremental repurchase activity after the quarter. You've refinanced your debt. And obviously, you guys generate a lot of free cash flow. So as you kind of look prospectively over the next, call it, 12 to 24 months from a capital allocation perspective, any sort of updates on how you kind of view that relative to legacy Acuity?

Neil Ashe

executive
#20

Yes, sure. So as I said, our priority for capital allocation will -- is and will continue to be to grow our businesses, to grow through acquisition, to maintain our dividend and create value for shareholders through share repurchase. And so you highlighted kind of what we've done. So the first thing is we transitioned our term loan to an offering. We were able to -- we're successful in the market. We had about $500 million at 215 basis points for 10 years. So we felt like locking in that as a -- did 2 things for us. One, it reintroduced us to the debt capital markets, so that they knew our company, and we're paying attention to us. And second, it locked in affecting high-quality capital at a low cost for a long time, which is really good. The second thing that you highlighted it is that once we kind of got past the initial shock of the -- of what was going to happen in Q2, we started to -- we implemented our share repurchase -- reimplemented our share repurchase program. And our thought around that, Tim, is that we don't need to accumulate so much cash on our balance sheet, even to be prepared for acquisitions. And so we're we continued that. You saw in the 10-K. And as we talked through the bond offering that we've continued that program, and it remains ongoing. And our thought process on that we will balance how much cash we feel like we need for future development opportunities, and the rest we'll use to retire shares and increase exponentially, hopefully, the return to our shareholders.

Timothy Wojs

analyst
#21

Okay, okay. Yes. No, that's very encouraging. Another question just on SG&A. Could you talk about what the fixed versus variable component is of SG&A? Because it does sound like, over time, if you grow and take share and you're able to maintain gross margins but expand EBIT margins, that you're going to need to see some SG&A leverage. And so can you just talk about the dynamics that could happen there?

Neil Ashe

executive
#22

Yes. So we always talk about -- in the SG&A number, about 12% of that is a variable -- it's a pretty directly variable number around our go-to-market costs, freight, those sorts of things. And the rest is largely fixed. And so as you'll see through, as you do a really good job of dissecting our financial statements, obviously, we've reduced those costs over the last several quarters. And the trick for us will be to stay behind the growth curve as we reintroduce new business to the company, which we feel pretty confident that we'll be able to do. And so looking forward then, as we kind of manage that gross margin in the areas that we described, we could probably create some -- a little bit there. And obviously, we'll leverage the fixed expenses as well. And then as we start to think about kind of the structure of the company going forward, we'll have the lighting -- the core Lighting business, which everyone kind of thinks of as the whole company now, and it is the vast majority from a dollars perspective, but then also the Intelligent Buildings piece will look more like a -- it's -- Distech is product business, but it will also look more like a software business. And then we've got the ability to add additional businesses that fit that criteria also, which are efficient cash generators. And our view is that the way that we can create value for shareholders over time is to grow revenue -- turn most of that revenue into cash and not grow the balance sheet at the same time. So high return on invested capital. So that's our focus as we look forward.

Timothy Wojs

analyst
#23

Great, great. And then maybe just one last question here from the audience. As you think about the evolution towards intelligent buildings, I think the prior thought was you sell a fixture and then there will be some sort of recurring revenue stream that is behind that. Is that still the same vision or the same economic model that we should think about going forward for that business?

Neil Ashe

executive
#24

So yes, but I want to peel that apart and explain a little bit more, which is, we sell HVAC-enabled luminaires and controls in the core lighting business. And they're really valuable to the end user and the customer that buys them. Going forward, we've separated that to ABL and to intelligent buildings, and that they work better together. So -- from a technology perspective. So we can sell the luminaire that Atrius-enabled, end light that Atrius-enabled, and that's on the luminaire side. The intelligent buildings is then a combination of the Distech products that we are selling, which is a product business, not dissimilar from the luminaires. And then these applications and potentially recurring revenue that can be generated from those applications. But we are cautiously optimistic that there can be some business model innovation in the intelligent building space over time that will make that business look more like a technology business than look like a product business. So that's a long way of saying, yes, we should still think about the ability to sell products, luminaires to Distech, but then build a more technology-oriented return on investment kind of driven applications for end users.

Timothy Wojs

analyst
#25

Okay, okay. Great. That's great. I think we're out of time. So if anybody has any other questions, feel free to join us in the breakout session. Thank you to Neil and the Acuity team for being here. And we hope everybody joins us at the conference for day 3 tomorrow.

Neil Ashe

executive
#26

Tim, thanks for hosting us, and thanks, everyone, for giving us a little bit of time. We're excited to tell you about Acuity.

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