Adani Power Limited (ADANIPOWER) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

January 25, 2024

National Stock Exchange of India IN Utilities Independent Power and Renewable Electricity Producers earnings 32 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to Adani Power Limited Q3 FY '24 Earnings Conference Call hosted by ICICI Securities Limited. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Mohit Kumar from ICICI Securities. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Mohit Kumar

analyst
#2

Thank you, Niraj. Good evening, everyone. On behalf of ICICI Securities, we are pleased to welcome you all to the Q3 FY '24 Earnings Call for Adani Power Limited. Today, we are privileged to join with the management team, Mr. S B Khyalia, CEO; Mr. Shailesh Sawa, CFO; and Mr. Nishit Dave, AVP, Investor Relations. We will start with brief opening remarks, which will be followed by Q&A. Over to you, sir.

Shersingh Khyalia

executive
#3

Dear friends, good evening, and welcome to the Third Quarter Financial Year '24 Earnings Call of Adani Power Limited. As you all know, the Indian power market is growing steadily and strongly, in step with the world-leading economic growth witnessed after 2020. Power demand in this fiscal year has grown by 7.6% year-on-year till December. Thermal power PLF has also improved, and there is a growing realization that coal-fired power plants are a reliable and important part of our energy mix. This favorable situation is also reflected in Adani Power's operating performance for the recently concluded quarter and 9-month period. Most of our PPA-based capacity, including import coal-based capacity as well as merchant capacity, has achieved higher PLF. In addition to this, the Godda power plant has ramped up its operations quite satisfactorily and established its position firmly in the Bangladesh power mix. Similarly, the company has also delivered stellar financial performance during quarter 3 of '24, with higher sales volumes and benefit of lower import fuel prices. We have maintained high levels of plant availability, which is crucial for recovery of capacity charges and maintaining stable profitability. Our regulatory issues have now been almost fully resolved, and we now have adequate fuel cost recovery under the PPAs. Steps taken by the government of India to encourage DISCOMs to make payments on time have worked and improved our cash flow. Mahan power plant, which was acquired by us in quarter 4 of 2022, has turned its fortunes around quickly and started posting profits by benefiting from our expertise in power sales management, fuel sourcing and power plant operations. We have repaid the entire outstanding sustainable debt of Mahan Energen. Similarly, we have also prepaid other secured and unsecured debt of APL from its cash flows and made the balance sheet lighter. Our capacity expansion program is well underway, and the 1,600 megawatt Mahan Phase II ultra-supercritical power project is fully on track. We are also moving closer to the acquisition of Coastal Energen under a consortium arrangement, for which we have received a letter of intent from the Committee of Creditors. On the operation side, we have undertaken an initiative for digital transformation of the business. We are building digitalization and analytics into all aspects of our organization's functioning, especially in power plant operations. Our Analytics Center of Excellence has identified more than 90 projects, which are being developed, tested and implemented for more efficient, predictable and safer operations along with better analytical and decision-making tools. Coming to responsible and sustainable operations, our power plants continue to perform admirably by operating well under statutory limits for specific water consumption and CO2 emissions. We have recently published APL's 9th ESG report following GRI standards, which details our efforts and achievements on various fronts. In a nutshell, we are building a more agile, responsive and sustainable enterprise for the future. The issues and challenges that we faced earlier are well behind us, and we look forward to generating sustainable value for our stakeholders in the coming years that are full of growth opportunities. With this, I would now like to hand the call over to Mr. Shailesh Sawa, our CFO. Over to Shailesh.

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#4

Thank you, Khyalia sir, and good evening, friends. The CEO has already given you a broad overview of APL's performance during the recently completed quarter. I will provide you with some more insight into it. I hope you have downloaded the analyst presentation for the quarter, which has been published on the stock exchanges and our website. APL achieved a PLF of 68.6% and sales volume of 21.5 billion units for Q3 FY '24 on a consolidated basis as compared to 42.1% and 11.8 billion units, respectively, in Q3 FY '23. The figures for FY '24 include operating and financial performance of the incremental capacity of 1,600 megawatts of the Godda power plant, which has come online in Q1 of the current financial year. On a year-to-date basis, APL achieved PLF of 62.4% and power sales of 57.1 billion units till 31st December 2023 in comparison to 46.6% and 39.1 billion units in the first 9 months of FY '23. Apart from the incremental addition of the Godda power plant, higher volumes were also contributed by the Mundra, Udupi, Raipur and Mahan plants. A reduction in prices of imported coal has helped us improve the offtake of power from Mundra and Udupi plants. APL's merchant capacity enjoyed a strong logistics cost advantage because of being located close to the main coal belts of India. This allowed us to gain the maximum benefit from the current surge in power demand. As mentioned by the CEO, our plants have posted high uptime on a consistent basis, which allows us to claim full capacity charges under PPAs and help us generate a very stable core EBITDA. Now coming to the financial performance. As you may be aware, our financial results in the past used to incorporate prior-period revenue items, which were recognized due to regulatory orders for recovery of alternative fuel costs, carrying costs and late payment surcharges from DISCOMs. However, in order to give you a clear understanding of our quarter-on-quarter performance, I'll present an analysis of recurring revenues and EBITDA. On a recurring or continuous basis, the total consolidated revenue of APL for Q3 FY '24 grew by 72% to INR 13,405 crores with an 82% growth in sales volumes. The apparent reduction in realized tariffs is primarily due to lower prices of imported and alternate coal, which reflect in the energy charges under PPAs. On the other hand, merchant tariffs realized during the quarter improved significantly, as we have detailed in our analyst presentation. The fuel cost for Q3 FY '24 increased by only 36% over Q3 FY '23 due to this very reason. This resulted in a strong growth of 242% in our recurring EBITDA to INR 5,059 crores in Q3 FY '24 as compared to INR 1,479 crores in Q3 of the previous year. For the 9-month period, continuing revenue increased by 40% to INR 37,173 crores in FY '24 with a volume growth of 46% as compared to the corresponding period of FY '23. Tariffs under PPA and from merchant sales moved in a similar way to the quarterly change. Similarly, for the 9-month period of FY '24 also, the continuing EBITDA was higher by 118% at INR 13,516 crores, driven by a strong growth in revenues and a reduction in import fuel prices that was witnessed over the current year. In comparison, continuing EBITDA was INR 6,210 crores for the corresponding period of FY '23. EBITDA as reported, including prior period adjustment, has grown by 151% to INR 5,009 crores for Q3 FY '24 as compared to INR 1,996 crores for Q3 FY '23. For the 9-month period of FY '24, reported EBITDA has grown by 92% to INR 22,743 crores as compared to INR 11,851 crores in the comparable period of FY '23. We have utilized the cash flows from operations, including the recoveries of past dues from DISCOMs very judiciously to reduce debt through prepayments. We have recently prepaid the remaining outstanding senior debt of Mahan Energen Limited. As a result, the finance cost for Q3 FY '24 reduced by nearly 16% to INR 797 crores versus INR 946 crores in Q3 FY '23 after considering the incremental borrowing for the Godda power plant. For the 9-month period, finance cost was broadly similar to the corresponding period of FY '23 being INR 2,560 crores versus INR 2,588 crores. At both the stand-alone and consolidated level, our leverage and debt service indicators are now very healthy, reflecting a strong creditworthiness, setting the path to improve returns and creating growth headroom. On a continuing basis, profit before tax for Q3 FY '24 was a strong INR 3,261 crores in comparison to a loss of INR 305 crores for Q3 FY '24. After considering onetime items, the reported PBT for Q3 FY '24 was INR 3,210 crores as compared to INR 212 crores for Q2 FY '23. Similarly, continuing PBT for the 9 months of FY '24 was INR 8,006 crores as compared to INR 1,136 crores for 9 months period of FY '23. After considering onetime items, the reported PBT was INR 17,234 crores versus INR 6,777 crores for the 2 periods, respectively. Profit after tax for Q3 FY '24 was reported at INR 2,738 crores as compared to INR 9 crores for Q3 FY '23. For 9 months of FY '24, the PAT was INR 18,092 crores after considering deferred tax credit of INR 858 crores as compared to PAT of INR 5,484 crores for 9 months of FY '23. As you can see, Adani Power now generates strong profitability and cash flows on the back of gainful deployment of our high-quality assets and operational excellence. It is our endeavor to continue to deliver the company's full potential and create maximum value for our stakeholders. Lastly, before I hand over the call to the moderator for your questions, I would like to share a personal update. Effective April 1, 2024, I will be transitioning to a new role at group level in group regulatory engagement function as part of a leadership development initiative that is in progress across Adani portfolio companies. I will be handing over the position of APL CFO to Mr. Dilip Jha, who is currently Finance Head of the Integrated Resource Management vertical of Adani Enterprises Limited. Mr. Jha has deep and varied experience in the finance field and has been associated with Adani since 2010. I'm sure you will enjoy interacting with him as well. Thank you. And now over to you, moderator, for Q&A. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] The first question is from the line of Nirav Shah from Geecee Holdings.

Nirav Shah

analyst
#6

Many congratulations for a fabulous set of numbers. Sir, a few questions. Firstly, sir, has there been any repayment of unsecured perpetual securities during Q3? I mean, Q2, the balance was INR 9,180 crores, and we are seeing INR 1,000 crores deleveraging approximately on a sequential basis against our EBITDA from INR 5,000 crores. So I just want to understand, any repayment of perpetual securities that has happened during the quarter?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#7

Yes. You will give the second question or I should respond now? Let me take...

Nirav Shah

analyst
#8

I think we can take it, yes.

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#9

Yes, thank you for your compliments. Yes, perpetual outstanding now today is INR 7,435 crores. So that is...

Nirav Shah

analyst
#10

INR 7,435 crores?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#11

Yes, INR 7,435 crores. So that is what -- so difference is what has been paid out of the surplus cash flows.

Nirav Shah

analyst
#12

Absolutely. Great. And sir -- yes?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#13

I must also clarify that we have perpetual securities, we have unsecured support received from the group. And also, we had long-term debt. We have 3 baskets of the debt. So we have used cash flow judiciously to keep it balanced. We have retired -- we have prepaid the secured debt as well, unsecured debt and part of the perpetual security also.

Nirav Shah

analyst
#14

Got it. So the actual cash outgo to -- on account of perpetual will be slightly more because there have been an interest component, which will be added? This is you're talking about the principal outstanding.

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#15

Yes, this is principal and approximately INR 2,000 crores that's been paid towards the yield on that.

Nirav Shah

analyst
#16

Okay. So total is INR 2,000 plus the INR 1,700-odd crores?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#17

Total, both together, yes. It's INR 2,000 crores plus little above INR 2,000 crores, all inclusive.

Nirav Shah

analyst
#18

All inclusive. Makes sense. And sir, what's the EBITDA for the first 9 months for Godda and Mahan? Revenue, EBITDA and PAT, if you can just disclose it separately?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#19

Actually, we don't give separately. We have given the consolidated numbers. So that number I've just read out to you for your information.

Nirav Shah

analyst
#20

Got it. Got it. And sir, I mean, any update on Amarkantak? I mean, where is the process right now?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#21

Nothing right now. COC has not taken any view on this right now. So process is currently on, and we can't comment on the outcome and the time lines.

Operator

operator
#22

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Nikhil Abhyankar from ICICI Securities.

Nikhil Abhyankar

analyst
#23

India is going through kind of a thermal capacity addition, even the government is asking everyone to add thermal capacity. Sir, basically, are we rejigging our plans to add thermal capacity in the long run?

Shersingh Khyalia

executive
#24

Actually, last time, we already gave a plan that today, we have capacity of 15,250 megawatts, and we have already saved the plan up to 21,116 megawatts or so. So as of now, we have something approximately 6,000-megawatt capacity addition plan, which we have already shared. So that is what we have as of now.

Nikhil Abhyankar

analyst
#25

Sir, this is purely greenfield or does it also include acquisitions?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#26

This includes 1.1 gigawatt of acquisitions, also which we thought probably could be the -- in the offing.

Shersingh Khyalia

executive
#27

So it is both. Actually greenfield as well as the new and -- it may interchange also if greenfield is not materializing, it may include the acquisition or some acquisition is not getting materialized, so we may add the new one also.

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#28

So that is the target capacity as we speak.

Nikhil Abhyankar

analyst
#29

Understood. And sir, regarding Mahan II, so what is the status of the project, as in has the EPC tenders been finalized? And can you just share an update on that as well?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#30

Yes. This is being implemented and the process is in -- the project implementation is in full swing. The broad packages have been all ordered now and see more are in the process of being ordered. It is not on EPC basis, they're on split package concept basis. So BTG has been already ordered with BHEL and rest is on the way of being placed.

Nikhil Abhyankar

analyst
#31

Understood. And sir, does this quarter's income include any past period adjustments?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#32

Insignificant. Not much. Excuse me, is the moderator online? We lost the contact.

Operator

operator
#33

Sir, can you hear me?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#34

Yes, we could.

Operator

operator
#35

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Koundinya from Jefferies India.

Koundinya Nimmagadda

analyst
#36

Sir, just a couple of questions. So firstly, on the capacity expansion plans, outside Mahan II, can you please help us understand what are the projects where you're looking at greenfield expansions? I'm not speaking about the acquisition part, but the greenfield or brownfield expansions which you may want to look at.

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#37

No, we -- our existing facilities have a potential to expand. So other than Godda, we have other 6, 7 plants. We have -- we can think of expanding it. And when Mahan expansion I is taking place, maybe at Mahan or Raigarh, we can add another maybe 3.2 gigawatt of capacity. So if you look at what has been disclosed by us, it's about 4.8 gigawatt of expansions. So this could be at any of our locations, with Mahan II is already underway. And maybe at Raigarh and maybe at Mahan, again, we can have a Phase III as well there.

Koundinya Nimmagadda

analyst
#38

Understood, sir. So...

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#39

Greenfield, what we are targeting is 4.8 gigawatts.

Koundinya Nimmagadda

analyst
#40

Understood, sir. Understood. And sir, on the acquisition side, I mean, you said Amarkantak which -- discussions are underway. But other than that, do you see any projects which are worth looking at or which -- I mean, where we will have certainty of PPA or FSA being tied up or any other assets, I mean, in the pipeline which you think -- or what's -- even if you count or if you don't want to name the asset, what is the kind of pipeline at an aggregate level that is existing already, if you can help us understand that, please?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#41

We would not like to guess at this point of time.

Koundinya Nimmagadda

analyst
#42

Understood, sir. No issue. Those are my questions, sir.

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#43

So one more point as far as the -- you would have read our announcement at Coastal Power Energen. There, the COC has given us the LOI and the -- now NCLT has -- we have to go through the NCLT process. So that is something which is definitely in the sights.

Operator

operator
#44

[Operator Instructions] Next question is from the line of Nirav Shah from Geecee Holdings.

Nirav Shah

analyst
#45

So just one question. On our rating upgrade efforts, so I mean, any update on that, that when can we expect or any update on our efforts on the rating upgrade?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#46

You will have to wait for some time for that.

Operator

operator
#47

Next question is from the line of Harish from SBI Securities.

Harish Sharma

analyst
#48

Congratulations on a great set of numbers. Sir, can you just give a highlight -- I mean, just for the coming quarter, how much interest expense we are expecting to reduce? And can you just throw a light on the fuel cost for the coming quarters, please?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#49

As far as interest is concerned, now we are having a senior debt of about INR 25,000 crores, which also takes into account the debt from Godda project, which was -- the interest on that was getting capitalized till the commissioning time. Now post the commissioning, that interest wasn't getting added. So on the INR 2,500 crores -- sorry, INR 25,000 crores, we will have to incur the interest on that. There are no unsecured debt which are outstanding. So -- plus you can add about INR 5,000 crores of working capital. So on INR 30,000 crores, 9% plus/minus.

Harish Sharma

analyst
#50

Okay. Can you throw light on fuel cost for the coming quarters?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#51

It will depend on how index moves. As the index imported, all the indices have settled now. They have come down significantly from last year's level. We'll not be able to comment on that. But in our view, prices have stabilized now. So I think they will remain at steady levels. So we don't see any further increase in the fuel cost.

Operator

operator
#52

[Operator Instructions] Next question is from the line of [ Aryan ] from Mehta Equities.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#53

First of all, congrats on a good set of numbers. I wanted to ask that -- as the thing is being asked already, are there, going forward, any debt reduction plans as of now? If you can throw some light on it, please?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#54

Thank you. See, last 12 months or so, we have demonstrated as to how the surplus cash flow has been judiciously used by us in terms of reducing our -- or lightening our balance sheet. We have prepaid Mahan Energen the entire debt now. As we speak, the Phase 1 project, which was acquired by us through NCLT process, is debt-free now. So as there's no written policy, but as and when surplus cash flow is there, we'll definitely like to reduce the -- wherever we have a high-cost borrowing. So that is something which we keep monitoring and then take a decision as the need arises.

Shersingh Khyalia

executive
#55

In terms of per megawatt debt, it is less than INR 2 crores per megawatt, which is the best in the industry.

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#56

If I can be very precise, it is INR 1.65 crores per megawatt is our senior debt right now.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#57

Right, right, right. And I need to ask that going forward, like our margins are improving subsequently. So moving further, what can be seen with the margin side, PAT margins, like to what extent can we see the rise in it?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#58

I don't think we'll be able to give you any forward-looking guidance on this.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#59

Okay. Right. And this is sustainable as of now, what we have achieved?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#60

Right.

Operator

operator
#61

[Operator Instructions] The next follow-up question is from the line of Nikhil Abhyankar from ICICI Securities.

Nikhil Abhyankar

analyst
#62

Just a couple of questions. Sir, how are we meeting our coal requirement for Godda? Are we importing it or is it through e-auctions?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#63

It is a mix of both. We are importing as well as we are using e-auctions, both.

Nikhil Abhyankar

analyst
#64

And sir, what are the prices in e-auctions right now?

Shersingh Khyalia

executive
#65

That keeps changing. Something around INR 3.5 per unit.

Nikhil Abhyankar

analyst
#66

INR 3.5, okay. And a clarification on how much debt you have repaid in this quarter, sir, can you just give a split between how much of it was secured, unsecured and perpetual?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#67

Yes. I'll just give you the numbers. Okay. We paid INR 2,121 -- sorry, INR 809 crores in Q3 of the senior debt and INR 2,000 crores of perpetual, including yield on that. In January, also we have prepaid INR 250 crores.

Nikhil Abhyankar

analyst
#68

Understood. Okay. And sir, can you give us the quantum of merchant sales plant-wise?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#69

No, that will not be possible.

Nikhil Abhyankar

analyst
#70

Okay. And sir, just a final one. What will be the CapEx requirement for FY '24-'25? And we are also in talks to acquire Coastal Energen. So what will be the total consideration for it? And will it require any more CapEx?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#71

Yes, Coastal is around INR 4,000 -- INR 3,450 crores. That is our bid to COC, which has been accepted.

Nikhil Abhyankar

analyst
#72

How much, sir? How much have you mentioned?

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#73

INR 3,450 crores.

Nikhil Abhyankar

analyst
#74

Okay. And will it require additional CapEx?

Shersingh Khyalia

executive
#75

Maybe very small amounts, not really big amount because plant is well maintained and operational condition.

Nikhil Abhyankar

analyst
#76

Okay. So should we -- so after acquisition, will it be up and running from day 1 as...

Shersingh Khyalia

executive
#77

It is already running. You must be seeing that both units are generating power and supplying.

Operator

operator
#78

[Operator Instructions] As there are no further questions, I will now hand the conference over to the management for closing comments.

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#79

Thank you, investors. Appreciate your interest in Adani Power Limited. And in case you have any follow-up questions, Nishit and my team, myself will be happy to respond to your queries. Thank you so very much. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#80

Thank you very much. On behalf of ICICI Securities Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us. You may now disconnect your lines. Thank you.

Shailesh Sawa

executive
#81

Thank you.

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