Adobe Inc. (ADBE) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
December 13, 2023
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Jonathan Vaas
executiveGood afternoon, and thanks for being with us today. Joining me are Adobe's Chair and CEO Shantanu Narayen, David Wadhwani, who serves as President of Digital Media, Anil Chakravarthy, President of Digital Experience, and Dan Durn, Executive Vice President and CFO. This call is being recorded, and during it we'll go over Adobe's financial results for the fourth quarter and fiscal year 2023. Our press release is available, along with PDFs of our prepared remarks and financial results, on Adobe's Investor Relations website. Everything we discuss on this call, including our financial targets and product plans, reflects information as of today, December thirteenth, and includes forward-looking statements that carry risk, uncertainty, and assumptions. Actual results could differ materially from what those statements set forth. To learn more about those risks, please review today's earnings release and Adobe's SEC filings. During this call, we'll cover GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. Our reported results include GAAP growth rates as well as constant currency rates. Throughout this presentation, unless otherwise stated, Adobe's executives will refer to constant currency revenue growth rates. Reconciliations between the two can be found in our earnings release and on Adobe's IR website. I'll now hand the call over to Shantanu.
Shantanu Narayen
executiveThanks, Jonathan. Hello everyone, and I appreciate you joining. During Q4, we crossed $5 billion for the first time in one quarter, which is a record for the company. Adobe's top line was $5.05 billion, representing a 13% gain versus the same period last year. On a GAAP basis, quarterly EPS was 3.23, and non-GAAP EPS came to 4.27 — those figures rose 28% and 19%, respectively, compared with a year earlier. The fourth quarter wrapped up another record-breaking year for Adobe, as revenue totaled $19.41 billion, which is 13% higher year over year. For fiscal 2023, GAAP earnings per share stood at 11.82, and non-GAAP earnings per share reached 16.07, with both delivering 17% growth compared with the prior year. We finished the year with RPO totaling $17.22 billion. That result reflects just how essential our offerings are in a world that's digital first, and it also speaks to remarkable innovation across our product lines and outstanding execution. Our three clouds — Adobe Creative Cloud, Document Cloud, and Experience Cloud — now serve as the bedrock of digital experiences: starting at that first spark of inspiration, moving through content and media creation and development, and extending all the way to personalized delivery and activation on any channel. Adobe's purpose — transforming the world via personalized digital experiences — combined with the foundational technology platforms we deliver, sets us up for growth over the coming decade. We're proud to count ourselves among the most inventive, diversified, and profitable software companies anywhere in the world. In our view, each enormous wave of technological change creates once-in-a-generation chances to bring fresh offerings and answers to a customer base that keeps growing. AI and generative AI represent exactly that kind of opening, and we've already explained the approach we plan to take for putting money in and standing apart when it comes to data, models, and interfaces. We've carried out that plan successfully, and it's gratifying to see heavy customer adoption of several of our pioneering developments — among them the Firefly family of models, connections within Creative Cloud, Liquid Mode, ties throughout Document Cloud, AI capabilities inside our Real-Time Customer Data Platform, and linkages in Experience Cloud. We're still enthusiastic about the strategic opening with Figma to push product design forward together, speed up collaborative creativity online, and reshape what the future holds for creativity and productivity. As the European Commission, the Competition and Markets Authority in the U.K., and the U.S. Department of Justice carry out their regulatory assessments, we keep working with them. European regulators have laid out their initial objections—the EC through a preliminary statement, and the CMA through provisional findings flagging competitive issues. We take strong exception to both and are in the process of replying to each authority. Based on the schedules they've set, the EC will rule by February 5, while the CMA's target date is February 25. The DOJ hasn't set a fixed deadline for determining whether it will file a complaint, though we anticipate word before long. At this point, I'll hand things over to David, who will walk through the traction we're seeing in digital media.
David Wadhwani
executiveThank you, Shantanu. Hi, everybody. During the fourth quarter, we brought in net new digital media ARR totaling $569 million, alongside revenue of $3.72 billion, representing 14% growth compared with the same period a year earlier, driven by breakthroughs across both our creative and document offerings. Turning first to Creative Cloud: worldwide appetite for content keeps speeding up and remains a favorable force for this business. For creators working in imaging, photography, design, video, web, animation, and 3D, Creative Cloud continues to be the platform they choose. The swift tempo of our innovation in products and AI models is enabling a broad and expanding group — individuals, students, creative professionals, small business owners, and enterprises — to produce and earn from incredible content faster and more simply than at any point before; we were delighted to gather face to face with thousands of creators at Adobe MAX in Los Angeles and at our MAX event in Tokyo, while millions more in our community joined us online; we hit a record 300 million social interactions during the month after MAX. For Creative Cloud, Q4 was a record-setting quarter, generating $3 billion in revenue, up 14% year-over-year. Net new Creative Cloud ARR came to $398 million. Business highlights include robust digital traffic stemming from product innovation, social engagement, and our ongoing product-led growth initiatives, which produced record new commercial subscriptions during the quarter. Customer enthusiasm ran high thanks to general availability of our generative AI Firefly models and the ways they are integrated throughout Creative Cloud, with more than 4.5 billion generations since the March launch. We released three new Firefly models — Firefly Image 2 Model, Firefly Vector Model, and Firefly Design Model — delivering highly differentiated control through effects, photo settings, and Generative Match. In addition, we rolled out Generative Credits within our Creative Cloud subscription plans. Photoshop Generative Fill and Generative Expand reached general availability and are experiencing record adoption. They already rank among the most used features in the product. Adobe Illustrator saw advances with the launch of Text to Vector beta, letting users generate icons, scenes, subjects, patterns, and gradients. Improvements to Adobe Premiere Pro include a major performance boost in the timeline for quicker, smoother editing, new color preferences, and better tone mapping. Premiere Pro now has native integration with Frame.io, delivering faster content sharing and collaboration. By combining Adobe Express with Firefly, everyone from creative pros to beginners can rapidly go from ideation to task-based workflows in Express, greatly extending our reach and broadening our top of funnel. The suite of generative capabilities across Express — Text to Image, Text Effects, Text to Template, and Generative Fill — is fueling Express adoption and making it quicker and more enjoyable for users at every skill level. Express is now pre-installed on every new Chromebook, putting it within reach of students, educators, and anyone on Chrome OS. Adobe Stock maintained its momentum, enjoying its strongest year yet, powered by rising demand for high-quality image, vector, video, and 3D content. So, integrations between Creative Cloud, Express, and Firefly with Adobe Gen Studio — that lets people brainstorm, produce content, and work with stakeholders, all within their broader content supply chain. We're seeing really solid uptake in the mid-market and enterprise, fueled by upsells into Creative Cloud offerings that include Firefly. Some of the key customer wins worth calling out: CyberAgent, Deloitte, Discovery Communications, Nexstar Media, Pepsi, Publicis, and the United Nations. After a year of innovation unlike anything we've seen, we couldn't be more excited about the momentum in the creative business. It's been wonderful watching customers get excited about Firefly integrations across our apps — community engagement, social interactions, and creative marketing campaigns are all fueling organic brand search, volume, traffic, and record demand. We began rolling out new Creative Cloud pricing in select geographies back in November, but new paid subscriptions across our routes to market remain the main growth engine; heading into FY 2024, we're eager to build on this momentum. Now let's shift to Document Cloud. Digital documents are critical enablers in both our personal and professional lives. Document Cloud leads in digital documents, powering every common document action — editing, sharing, reviewing, scanning, and signing. Innovations in Document Cloud are pushing forward accessibility, comprehension, productivity, automation, and security in document workflows spanning web, desktop, and mobile. In Q4, Document Cloud revenue came in at $721 million, up 17% year-over-year. Net new Document Cloud ARR hit a record $171 million, and ending ARR rose 23% year-over-year in constant currency. On the business side, highlights include Acrobat Web growth, still an amazing source of customer acquisition, with monthly active users climbing over 70% year-over-year. There's also been a surge in link sharing usage for stakeholder collaboration around PDF files — up 400% year-over-year — which creates a viral growth loop drawing tens of millions of users into the Acrobat ecosystem; that's a terrific illustration of how we're scaling our PLG motions. Demand for Acrobat on mobile is strong too, with MAU crossing 100 million users in Q4. Liquid Mode has now delivered over 1 billion files to customers, showing just how essential this technology has become on mobile devices. Adobe Acrobat to Express workflows make importing, editing, and enhancing documents even simpler, so users can produce visually stunning PDFs. Notable enterprise customer wins include Alshaya, Bank of America, Department of Veterans Affairs, Mastercard, State Farm Auto Insurance, and Volkswagen. Just like in the creative business, we anticipate generative AI will bring added value and draw new customers to Document Cloud. Acrobat's generative AI capabilities — which will unlock new creation, comprehension, and collaboration functionality — are already available in a private beta. We expect a public beta to arrive in the coming months. It's been a remarkable year for the digital media business, with hundreds of transformative innovations introduced that are reshaping the future of creativity, productivity, and digital experiences. To top off this year's many accolades, Time Magazine named Adobe Liquid Mode, Photoshop Generative Fill, and Generative Expand among the best inventions of 2023. I'll now hand things over to Anil.
Anil Chakravarthy
executiveAppreciate that, David. Hi, everybody. For any company, in any sector, digital experiences have become essential — they let organizations large and small connect with and sell to buyers across the globe. Adobe's holiday shopping report, built on an analysis of trillions of data points, revealed that Black Friday and Cyber Monday each set records, reaching $9.8 billion and $12.4 billion respectively, up 7.5% and 9.6% versus last year. Our projection is that holiday 2023 spending in the U.S. by itself will top $221 billion. Adobe Experience Cloud sits in an ideal spot to seize this enormous worldwide opportunity. Businesses in both B2C and B2B are choosing Adobe Experience Cloud as the platform to speed up experience-led growth. Our top-tier solutions — covering data insights and audiences, content and commerce, customer journeys, and marketing workflow — give companies the power to generate customer demand, engagement, and growth, all while producing productivity gains at the same time. Our broad suite of applications, Real-Time CDP among them, is built natively on our highly differentiated Adobe Experience Platform, which gives companies a unified profile of every customer so they can deliver personalized real-time experiences at scale. Generative AI speeds up how fast we innovate throughout the Experience Cloud portfolio, letting us extend our capabilities to deliver personalized digital experiences. We've centered our work on three areas. First, augmenting our applications with an AI assistant that dramatically boosts productivity for existing users and offers an intuitive conversational interface so more knowledge workers can pick up our products. Second, reimagining current Experience Cloud applications, as we did with Adobe Experience Manager; and third, creating completely new solutions designed for the age of Generative AI, such as Adobe Gen Studio; in Q4, we kept generating robust growth in the Experience Cloud business among our enterprise and mid-market customers, reaching $1.27 billion in revenue. Subscription revenue came to $1.12 billion, which is 12% growth year-over-year. Business highlights include strong momentum with Adobe Experience Platform and native applications, inclusive of Real-Time CDP, Adobe Journey Optimizer, and Customer Journey Analytics. AEP posted its first $100 million quarter of net new business in Q4 and closed out the year with a greater than $700 million annualized book of business. Launch of Adobe Gen Studio, an end-to-end solution that unites best-in-class applications across Creative Cloud, Express, and Experience Cloud, with Firefly generative AI at the core to help brands meet the rising demand for content. Gen Studio delivers a comprehensive offering spanning content ideation, creation, production, and activation. We're seeing enormous interest in Gen Studio from brands such as Henkel, Pepsi, and Verizon, and agencies such as Publicis, Omnicom, and Havas, as they seek to speed up and optimize their content supply chains. Reimagine customer experiences with the all-new Adobe Experience Manager Sites that let businesses and developers rapidly test and optimize web content, deliver the fastest possible page load times, and maximize SEO rankings, Lighthouse scores, and conversion. Adobe was named a leader in over 25 industry analyst reports this year, including the Gartner Magic Quadrants for Digital Experience Platforms, B2B Marketing Automation Platforms, and Multichannel Marketing Hubs. Last week’s release of the Forrester Wave for Digital Experience Platforms had Adobe earning the top marks in strategy. Among the notable customer wins are Alshaya, Coca-Cola, EY, IBM, Marriott, Riyadh Air, Santander Brazil, Sony, Southern Graphics, Unilever, Vanguard, and Verizon. When we talk with these and other clients globally, senior executives keep putting experience-driven growth at the top of their agenda as a vital business priority, even as budgets remain under the microscope. With products that deliver end-to-end customer experiences and let organizations pursue growth and profitability at the same time, Adobe Experience Cloud is in a strong spot to continue succeeding. We look forward to carrying our leadership and momentum through 2024. Now I’ll hand things over to Dan.
Dan Durn
executiveThank you, Anil. Today's earnings release addresses our Q4 performance along with the full FY 2023 outcome. What a remarkable year 2023 turned out to be! Because we know our customers deeply, keep innovating on products, and execute extremely well, we posted robust financial results and margins of the highest caliber, setting up the business for many years of ongoing expansion. During FY 2023, Adobe brought in record revenue totaling $19.41 billion, reflecting 10% growth compared with the prior year, or 13% when measured in constant currency. For the year, GAAP EPS came to $11.82, while non-GAAP EPS reached $16.07, with both figures up 17% year-over-year. For fiscal 2023, our business and financial highlights were as follows: digital media brought in $14.22 billion in revenue, with net new digital media ARR reaching $1.91 billion, while digital experience revenue came to $4.89 billion. Cash flows from operations were $7.3 billion, we exited the year with RPO of $17.22 billion, and we bought back roughly 11.5 million shares of our stock over the course of the year, spending $4.63 billion to do so. During the fourth quarter of FY 2023, Adobe's revenue was $5.05 billion, which represents 12% growth compared with the prior year, or 13% on a constant currency basis. GAAP diluted earnings per share in Q4 came in at $3.23, while non-GAAP diluted earnings per share reached a record $4.27, rising 28% and 19% year-over-year, respectively. During the quarter, our key business and financial results were as follows: digital media brought in $3.72 billion in revenue, net new digital media ARR hit $569 million, digital experience revenue totaled $1.27 billion, we generated $1.6 billion in cash flows from operations, added roughly $1.5 billion to RPO — the largest quarter-over-quarter gain we've ever posted — and bought back about 1.8 million shares of our stock. Turning to the digital media segment, Q4 revenue was $3.72 billion, which represents a 13% year-over-year increase, or 14% when measured in constant currency. Net new ARR for the fourth quarter came in at $569 million, a quarterly record on a constant currency basis, and we ended the quarter with digital media ARR of $15.17 billion. Creative revenue came in at $3 billion, which represents a 12% increase compared to the same period last year — or 14% when you strip out currency effects. During the quarter, we brought in $398 million in net new creative ARR. Several things drove that outcome: strong customer acquisition throughout the quarter, along with momentum we carried through the heaviest weeks of holiday shopping. When it came to fourth quarter creative growth drivers, we saw individual subscriber growth, which was fueled by targeted campaigns and a high volume of web traffic. It was also a very strong quarter for Creative Cloud all-app subscriptions, spanning customer segments and geographies, with particularly notable strength in emerging markets. We also saw sales of CC Single Apps, including a robust quarter for our imaging and photography offerings. On top of that, there was continued expansion of our Frame.io offering and Adobe Stock, which wrapped up its strongest year ever when it comes to net new ARR. On the education side, back-to-school buying drove demand, and graduating students entering the workforce moved over to our full-priced options. We also saw the typical fourth-quarter enterprise momentum, which included substantial upsells of our new Firefly and Express products. Document Cloud revenue at Adobe came in at $721 million, a 16% increase versus the prior year, or 17% on a constant-currency basis. During the quarter, Document Cloud added $171 million in net new ARR, which was a record. Expansion in Document Cloud during Q4 was powered by Acrobat subscription demand across all customer segments, every route to market, and all regions. Our free-to-paid conversion funnels continued to deliver strong results, especially Reader on desktop and Acrobat Web. Collaboration services delivered strong results as well, among them PDF link sharing and Sign, which bring new users into the Acrobat ecosystem through viral means. Acrobat Mobile had an excellent quarter thanks to greater proliferation, usage, and conversion, plus seasonal year-end strength in SMB and enterprise. Now to our digital experience segment: in Q4, revenue came in at $1.27 billion, up 10% year-over-year, or 11% in constant currency. Subscription revenue reached $1.12 billion, representing 12% growth year-over-year. During Q4, our digital experience segment expanded thanks to several factors. We saw healthy end-of-year bookings across our solutions, and North America was especially strong. We kept succeeding in finalizing transformational agreements that bundle multiple solutions for big enterprises. AEP and native apps continued to gain traction, and as FY 2023 closed, the book of business for those offerings had grown over 60% compared with the prior year. Enterprises that adopted AEP early demonstrated impressive net dollar retention, reflecting the benefits they receive from our real-time data platform and connected products. We also experienced momentum in our data and insights, content, and Workfront offerings, while customer curiosity and pipeline for our new GenStudio solution kept building. Looking back at the fourth quarter and all of fiscal 2023, we achieved top-tier operating margins by putting money into research and development, marketing, and sales in a careful, disciplined way. We're also pleased that earnings per share increased at a faster pace than revenue did. On a GAAP basis, Adobe's effective tax rate came in at 18% for Q4, while the non-GAAP figure was 18.5% — both right in line with our expectations. Remaining performance obligations finished the quarter at $17.22 billion, which represents 13% growth compared with the same period a year earlier. When Q4 ended, we held $7.84 billion in cash plus short-term investments. Operating cash flow for the quarter reached $1.6 billion. That figure reflects an $826 million payment of US federal taxes made during the quarter, which had been deferred from the second and third quarters of FY 2023 and which we had previously discussed. In the fourth quarter, we entered into a share buyback arrangement worth $1 billion. That leaves us with $2.15 billion remaining under the $15 billion authorization we received back in December 2020. One quick note: our ARR measurement uses constant currency throughout a fiscal year, then gets revalued at year-end. Movements in FX rates from December 2022 through this year added $160 million to the Digital Media ARR figure as we came into FY 2024. That balance is now $15.33 billion, and you can find it in the updated investor data sheet. Considering the traction we're seeing throughout our operations, along with what we currently anticipate regarding macroeconomic conditions and currency fluctuations, our FY 2024 targets are as follows: Adobe's overall revenue should land between $21.30 billion and $21.50 billion; net new ARR for Digital Media is expected to reach roughly $1.9 billion; the Digital Media segment should generate between $15.75 billion and $15.85 billion in revenue; the Digital Experience segment is projected to bring in $5.275 billion to $5.375 billion; subscription revenue within Digital Experience should fall between $4.75 billion and $4.80 billion; the tax rate will be around 18% under GAAP and 18.5% on a non-GAAP basis; GAAP earnings per share should come in at $13.45 to $13.85; and non-GAAP earnings per share are expected between $17.60 and $18. As a reminder — and this aligns with how we typically operate — the projections we're providing exclude the Figma acquisition that we intend to complete. Across the year, we anticipate typical seasonality: new business steps down seasonally in Q1, then grows sequentially from Q1 into Q2, followed by the usual summer pattern in Q3, and we close the year strongly in Q4. On cash taxes, we look for sequential improvement of 2 percentage points in FY 2024, since amortization of R&D that was previously capitalized raises our deductions for tax purposes next year, which helps operating cash flows next year. Looking ahead to Q1 of fiscal 2024, here's what we're projecting. On the top line, we expect Adobe's total revenue to land somewhere between $5.10 billion and $5.15 billion. For Digital Media, net new ARR should come in at roughly $410 million, with segment revenue between $3.77 billion and $3.80 billion. Turning to Digital Experience, we're targeting segment revenue of $1.27 billion to $1.29 billion, and within that, subscription revenue of $1.14 billion to $1.16 billion. On taxes, we're looking at about 18% under GAAP and 18.5% on a non-GAAP basis. GAAP earnings per share should be in the range of $3.35 to $3.40, while non-GAAP earnings per share are expected to fall between $4.35 and $4.40. Now, even though implied operating margin is set to improve from one quarter to the next in Q1, we do expect the typical seasonal dip in margin to kick in starting in Q2. That's a result of our annual merit increases, along with the disciplined investments we're making to drive growth. In closing, I want to say that the way this company delivered in FY 2023, and the momentum we're carrying into 2024 across Creative Cloud, Document Cloud, and Experience Cloud, makes me prouder than I've ever been. What we've built in terms of strategy, scale, how quickly we execute, and our profitability positions us well for sustained success stretching out over many years. Shantanu, I'll hand things over to you.
Shantanu Narayen
executiveThanks, Dan. Beyond what we achieved financially, it's great to be acknowledged yet again for leading our industry. Fast Company honored Content Credentials along with Adobe's responsible AI strategy as a breakthrough innovation for the year. Once more, we earned a spot on the Dow Jones Sustainability Index. Glassdoor put Adobe among the top workplaces, and Interbrand placed us in its top 20 Best Global Brands, naming us a rising brand for an eighth consecutive year. Digital continues to be a huge tailwind, since demand for and consumption of content keeps rising, and companies large and small are prioritizing the transformation of their customer experiences. Adobe is positioned extraordinarily well to lead and seize this chance, given our innovative roadmap, growing worldwide customer base, strong brand, and the finest employees anywhere. Our targets for fiscal 2024 show how confident we are in sustaining robust top-line growth and world-class profitability. My certainty that Adobe's greatest days lie ahead has never been higher. Thanks, and now let's take questions. Operator?
Kash Rangan
analystHello, and many thanks. Nice work on the quarter, and enjoy the holidays. Shantanu, along with the rest of the team, I've been thinking about this as we head into 2024 — it really does seem as though the economy has found a steady base, and broadly speaking, software metrics have been getting better throughout this year, which is quite unlike the shift from 2022 to 2023. And yet the guidance you've given for DM new ARR doesn't match how you opened last year, even though you now have generative AI working in your favor, economic tailwinds, plus pricing and Firefly. Could you walk us through what's behind that guidance once those elements are stripped out? It appears that if we set aside the optionalities at your disposal, including those economic tailwinds, the guidance comes across as quite cautious — and perhaps that's the prudent approach — but I just wanted to hear how you're thinking about it. Thanks so much.
Shantanu Narayen
executiveYes, thank you, Kash. I have to say, we're genuinely excited about the incredible year we just had in every part of the business, from the $5 billion quarter and the $5 billion book of business now in DX as we exit, to digital media and our ARR results. Now, if you look back — you brought up the guidance we provided at the start of 2023 and 2024. As you may remember, our initial guide was $16.50 billion, and then we raised it, as you're aware, to $17.50 billion, and we finished at $19.13 billion. So, to your point about execution, we've brought out some terrific innovative products. We've grown the customer base through new offerings such as Express and Firefly. We're definitely centered on surfaces and on ensuring every one of our flagship products can be accessed on all surfaces. That means we have several growth drivers, as you mentioned, and our attention is on monetizing that opportunity. I'd say we treat our guide with a great deal of seriousness. Another lens on this, Kash, is that it's the largest annual guide we've ever put out. It's also the biggest Q1 guide ever, and we want to, once again, deliver against this massive opportunity and post another record year. So we feel good. There's definitely momentum in the business, but at this stage of the year, we take our guidance very seriously.
Kash Rangan
analystThank you so much, and happy holidays. All the best for 2024.
Shantanu Narayen
executiveThanks. Happy holidays.
Keith Weiss
analystGreat. I appreciate you all for fielding the question. This is somewhat along the lines of what Kash was driving at, though perhaps somewhat more centered on Q4 specifically. Looking at digital media net new ARR additions during Q4, it appears you enjoyed an extremely robust Document Cloud quarter, as you mentioned, with really powerful year-over-year expansion in those net adds. Creative Cloud, where a price increase actually occurred and where there's plenty of enthusiasm around Firefly, was in fact lower compared with a year earlier. And this marks the first instance since 2018 that we've witnessed Creative Cloud net new ARR falling under $400 million. I believe that's what caught investors off guard, or the unfavorable surprise investors are attempting to work through. Was anything weighing on the Creative Cloud portion of the equation this year, or a difficult comparison against last year, or anything that accounts for why the price hikes together with all the favorable momentum and innovation coming out of Adobe MAX isn't converting into net new ARR growth specifically for Creative Cloud?
David Wadhwani
executiveSure, glad to address that, Keith. This is David speaking. To start, as you pointed out regarding the DME segment, we're quite thrilled with how 2024 turned out — more than $1.9 billion in net new ARR, which is clearly far beyond what we had guided. We're seeing our customer base grow and considerable drive stemming from GenAI, just as you said. In connection with that, what we achieved in Q4 was net new ARR — an all-time high for net new ARR on a constant currency basis. Now, turning to your specific question about momentum in Creative Cloud and how one should read the figures you're seeing there: beneath it all lies extremely robust momentum, since we posted a record number of new commercial subscriptions for Creative Cloud during the year. That truly forms the groundwork and the customer foundation coming aboard and gaining value not only from what we get this quarter, but also from how we continue building on it moving forward. So it genuinely positions us nicely for FY 2024. When you examine the Creative Cloud ARR figures — net new ARR for the quarter — you must view them on a relative basis, comparing Q4 FY 2023 against Q4 FY 2022, as you brought up. It's important to factor in that FY 2022 included two pricing actions that benefited Creative Cloud, and those are significantly diminished by Q4 FY 2023. Therefore, if you adjust for the effect of the pricing that fell away and the pricing that was introduced, Creative Cloud net new ARR during Q4 increased on a constant currency basis.
Shantanu Narayen
executiveAnd Keith, I just want to underscore the two things David brought up. David noted, first, that subscriptions drove a record for Creative ARR in Q4 of 2023, and absent the pricing, Creative ARR would have shown growth. So, as you were saying, the business keeps being really robust.
Keith Weiss
analystExcellent. Thank you, guys.
Alex Zukin
analystHey, everyone, thanks for letting me ask. So I suppose, when we think about the coming year, how much of the Creative Cloud renewal base might be eligible for that kind of price increase? And then for Acrobat, particularly the AI features you're putting out in public beta, how should we frame the boost to Creative Cloud from pricing and to Document Cloud from monetizing AI, looking at 2024, calendar 2024?
David Wadhwani
executiveYeah, glad to handle that, Alex. There's a lot in there, so let me break it down. I'll begin with the FY 2024 question and how pricing plays in. Before going right into it, I want to step back a little and remind everybody that Digital Media ARR combines several elements. New subscript — new subscriptions, and like I said, we saw a record amount of those in Q4. Upsell and cross-sell, which moves customers from their current plan to higher-tier ones. And finally, offer optimization. As you pointed out, over the past couple of years, we've significantly expanded our range of offers, from free tiers all the way up to the All Apps tiers; and on top of that, we can now sell add-ons to All Apps too; and naturally, all of this incorporates the price increases you brought up, where we've delivered added value. I want to emphasize, since I know the pricing effect draws a lot of focus, that we've consistently observed and still expect that new subscriptions will remain the main engine of ARR growth in 2024; that's exactly why we're so concentrated on top-of-funnel and bringing in new customers. But regarding your pricing question, a few factors matter. First, the pricing changes we just announced will touch under half of the Creative Cloud base. That was the precise thing you asked, so hopefully that answers it. Yet it also keeps open the chance to charge for added value in future years as we go along. Second, the effect will show up more clearly in net new ARR during the back half of FY 2024, once we lap last year's pricing moves that I discussed with Keith, and as we phase in the pricing over the coming quarters. So in the second half of FY 2024, we'll get better visibility into how that helps net new ARR. Third, since we're introducing these prices across plans and across geos gradually throughout the year, the ARR benefit will really be distributed over FY 2024 and FY 2025. And then fourth, to really put a fine point on it, the effect of pricing on ARR during 2024 is in fact smaller than what pricing did to Creative Cloud back in 2023. So that should give you some idea. Yet once more, it all ties back to the reason we feel such enthusiasm about the traction we're seeing with new subscriptions, and that genuinely points to good things for the business both this year and over the long haul. That should give you a fairly solid picture of it. Then, very briefly on Document Cloud, you know, we couldn't be happier with how Document Cloud has performed. Much of that traces back to our central strategy, which has centered on, you know, bringing desktop, web, and mobile together into one ecosystem, and truly pushing monthly active usage of Document Cloud higher via all the product-led growth efforts we run, and then converting users afterward. What has us genuinely excited is launching the AI assistant, which, incidentally, as I noted, is in private beta right now, with a public beta anticipated within the next few months, and then, you know, GA at some point later in the year. But the thing that really fires us up there is the ability to serve not only the paid Acrobat base with it, but likewise begin extending it to the free reader base. Plenty of opportunity and enthusiasm lie ahead this year for Document Cloud too.
Alex Zukin
analystGreat. I appreciate the really clear, direct response.
David Wadhwani
executiveHappy to help.
Kirk Materne
analystOkay, thank you, and nice work on the quarter — also, happy holidays. David, I think I'll come back to you once more. So, during the commentary, all of you mentioned how strong enterprise was, and in particular the way Firefly and Express get upsold within your enterprise client base. Could you give us a bit more qualitative detail about how those conversations tend to go? And is that partly why new subscriptions are ticking up, especially on the enterprise side? Then, regarding Express, could you once more describe what leading indicators you're seeing that suggest it's an enterprise product you can keep growing into fiscal 2024? Thanks.
David Wadhwani
executiveOkay, perhaps I should kick things off, and after that Anil can chime in, since this touches both of our business areas. So, regarding Firefly and Express — we're really thrilled about the momentum we keep witnessing. You heard we've now passed 4.5 billion generations. So adoption and usage continue to be extremely strong, partly as a standalone offering, but also woven into Photoshop and Illustrator and those existing workflows. And we're beginning to see considerable interest, not only when it comes to employing it within those current products, but also when it comes to employing it within the enterprise ecosystem; so we've been collaborating with a number of customers to not only equip them with Firefly — which accounts for most of the Q4 growth we're seeing in enterprise adoption — but we also already have a number of pilot customers involved with custom model extensions, so they can bring their own assets and their own content into whatever Firefly generates. Next, we're also enabling the capability to expose it via APIs, so they can build it into their current workflows. Third, naturally we're linking it and binding it all into Adobe Express, which today also has its own Firefly plus additional capabilities like things, so you can not merely create content with Firefly, but then begin assembling it, begin scheduling social posts around it, begin doing multi-language translations. All those features are already present in there. And then establish a stakeholder workflow spanning people working in Photoshop to the marketers attempting to post externally. So that's where things become quite interesting and exciting regarding the connection we have with Gen Studio and everything Anil's doing.
Anil Chakravarthy
executiveTo add to what was just said, regarding Gen Studio, ever since its debut at Max, the response has been enormous. We've seen this from large organizations such as Henkel, Pepsi, and Verizon, plus quite a few agencies too. This largely ties back to the points raised during Summit. Over the coming 2 years, content demand is projected to increase 5x, and companies everywhere are asking, "How do we accelerate creating high-quality, on-brand material? How do we enable more individuals across marketing and other parts of the business to generate their own assets that meet our enterprise standards?" When you bring together our digital experience offerings, including Adobe Experience Manager and Assets, with our Creative Cloud tools, particularly Express and Creative Cloud, enterprises can achieve that agility and cost efficiency needed to produce content at scale. That's the pattern we're observing, and the level of interest has been incredible.
David Wadhwani
executivePerhaps I could just chime in briefly there, Kirk. What I find really thrilling about the work people are doing is that they're coalescing around Firefly, and the fact that we've got accountable generations across the whole enterprise. So the curiosity has centered on how do we make that the standard for every image, vector, or other kind of generation they want to carry out for each knowledge worker in the enterprise? So adoption of Firefly has been truly strong.
Kirk Materne
analystThanks.
Karl Keirstead
analystAppreciate it. I want to bring up something else — Adobe Express, specifically now that it's being marketed to enterprises. Could you share some insight into how quickly adoption is ramping up, how it stacks up against Canva competitively, and whether your approach to pushing Express revenue as opposed to growing user adoption has shifted in any way? Thank you.
David Wadhwani
executiveAlright, sure, I'm glad to address that. Express has gotten off to a really strong beginning. As you'll recall, we reached general availability in August with the newest release. The feedback we've been receiving has been extremely, extremely favorable. And honestly, from that point on, during Q4, we introduced a huge amount of fresh innovation. Firefly integration began with Text to Image and Text Effects, and beyond that we introduced Text to Template, which builds a completely finished template for you, plus Generative Fill, allowing you to make changes repeatedly as you go; users can now draw and paint directly on the canvas; we've provided far greater video capabilities; and we've truly created an outstanding, best-in-class PDF experience and workflow, with Acrobat included too. Some additional capabilities are now beginning to extend into the enterprise space as well. We've built in social workflows, letting people schedule their posts; we've made auto translation available, so you're able to publish across numerous geographies and languages. We've unlocked our ecosystem for partner plugins, and at this point we have more than 50 extensions. We've also introduced enterprise capabilities such as AEM integration and template locking, so the key brand guardians within a company can control and ensure that the brand elements they don't want altered are locked whenever you distribute this more widely. What we've observed is genuinely, I believe, some very thrilling, wide-ranging advantages from all this. First, we've seen new trialists arriving and increasing quite rapidly following this launch, which is great to witness. We've seen education users beginning to embrace this very swiftly too. The Creative Cloud Pro paid base has been joining and expanding very quickly when it comes to their usage, and then enterprise, as we discussed, from a usage standpoint. And once again, Express plays a central role in how Anil and the team are now selling Gen Studio. And finally, this is simply building momentum for the year ahead. We have a mobile release on the way, which will be really exciting for users who want to work with this while on the move. We already have thousands of people using that beta. We've announced our Chromebooks partnership. So anybody who purchases a new Chromebook will get this. We have partnerships with companies such as Wix for their workflows. We're going to be creating deeper integrations into Acrobat. We're very enthusiastic about where this is headed. That's a lengthy way to respond to a very straightforward question. We want lots of people using this, so our main focus remains on widening the top of funnel. Naturally, as part of that, we are continuously and constantly, as I said, guiding people toward upsell and cross-sell possibilities for the paid plan and toward Creative Cloud and other products. But our main focus remains adoption and widespread proliferation.
Karl Keirstead
analystUnderstood. I appreciate it.
Brad Zelnick
analystWonderful, many thanks. Dan or possibly Anil, this one's for you. When we consider how things are moving in the DX business, it's encouraging to hear items such as the 60% growth in your AEP and native apps book of business, the solid net dollar retention, and you mentioned robust bookings overall at year-end. Yet regarding what lies ahead in the pipeline, conversion of bookings, or maybe additional elements, what explains the extent of the slowdown you're guiding toward for next year? Thanks.
Anil Chakravarthy
executiveYes, thank you, Brad. What I'd say is this: this represents a huge opportunity spanning multiple years, and we're genuinely thrilled about it. When you consider any large organization anywhere in the world, everyone understands that reimagining how they engage with their customers is a necessity over the long haul. That's what we're observing in those transformative agreements we referenced. Take the AEP example you brought up — our first quarter with $100 million in net new business, finishing with an annualized book of business exceeding $700 million. That being said, the macroeconomic effects are unmistakably showing up for us, exactly as they are for other companies selling enterprise software. Each customer evaluates what it will cost in total to deploy the software, and then considers what's required to achieve payback and ROI. Consequently, there is unquestionably some careful examination and hesitancy right now. Even so, as we look ahead toward the coming year, we can see the pipeline spanning both our industry verticals and our mid-market customers, and we remain the market leader, receiving that acknowledgment from analysts and customers alike.
Brad Zelnick
analystAlright, thanks.
Brent Thill
analystBrent here — Dan, could you walk us through the bigger assumptions behind your guidance? There's still, you know, a bit of worry out there on the Street about why your guide sits where it does versus where the Street had it. And maybe bring Shantanu into the guide as well — could you just share your high-level take on whether you believe the improving environment is actually improving? Or do you see it as merely stabilizing? Any thoughts at all on, from a high level, what you think is going on as we head into next year?
Dan Durn
executiveYes, thank you for that question, Brent. So when we look at the guidance, and consider our current position as we head into FY 2024, it's clear there's a great deal of momentum in the business. The company's innovation engine has been extremely powerful, and you can observe the robust financial results — that applies both to the top line and to profitability and cash flow — so there's definitely a lot of momentum surrounding the business. Thinking about where we stand right now, we reported a 46.4% operating margin. Looking ahead to next year, we factor in everything that's visible to us. As Shantanu mentioned, we treat the guidance seriously, and we establish expectations in a careful manner. Should an opportunity arise to exceed the expectations we've set, obviously the company will be pushing toward that. When we consider the innovation engine, we believe the pipeline is robust; we will keep investing in the growth drivers. This company is going to orient itself toward growth. Regarding the investment profile, not only will we remain disciplined, but we will keep putting resources into those growth drivers; on the DX side, Anil discussed AEP and apps, a strong book of business, strong growth; we are building the foundation in content supply chain with the Gen Studio solution, scaling that motion and working with customers to move from ideation to creation to activation, delivering new technologies, products, AEM Sites, embedding intelligence into those products. On the DME side, you can see it throughout the portfolio, AI Assistant Acrobat. It's in private beta. It will be in public beta in the coming months. Consider Firefly, Express, integrating these technologies natively and deeply across the entire product portfolio. There will be ongoing investment when it comes to that innovation. As you consider the momentum coming out of this year, and as you consider the guidance into Q1, you can see that momentum persisting. You have operating margin up slightly, and then across the year, as we stated at our FA Day and last year's earnings call, you can see a mid-40s% expectation for operating margin for the company as we push through this investment cycle, as we drive leadership in our core markets and our key catalyst in the trends shaping those markets; so once more, stepping back, it takes into account the macro that Anil discussed, everything we see from a core business perspective and the investment profile we're going to pursue to lead. If there's a chance to do better than where we set those expectations, we will certainly do so.
Shantanu Narayen
executiveTo expand on that a bit, Brent, since you raised the question. Let me get one thing straight first: regarding the economic indicators we observed, nothing there gives us any reason to worry. That's where I'll begin. At our investor meeting, I believe we shared that a strong quarter was what we anticipated. You'd have to agree, I think, that the numbers we posted were quite strong, and that momentum is still going; when it comes to Creative Cloud, new customer acquisition will be what drives it, and that's the engine behind this business. Perhaps the sell side examined some of the pricing and placed more of it into 2024 rather than across 2024 and 2025, and that will even out over time, and maybe they placed somewhat more weight on what share of the base gets impacted. From where I sit, then, the good news regarding Creative is that massive new adoption onto the platform is what's powering it; on Document Cloud, results were really strong. As Dan mentioned, once we add the AI pack there too, that ought to help fuel additional adoption. And digital experience — well, I'm aware Brad posed that question as well. Seeing the adoption of AP and apps is terrific. That is unmistakably where digital experiences are headed, driving a $100 million quarter, the $700 million, in the annualized book of business, which I believe will mirror the next generation customer experience architecture; so our feeling is positive, and we're going to go execute against that, Brent. Nothing we see on the horizon, whether economic or competitive, would indicate that we aren't positioned to deliver another great year. And profitability too. Just look at the numbers we posted, for Q4 as well as for fiscal 2024. And none of that means, in any way, that we won't invest in all of the cloud and the foundation models. So I feel really good.
Dan Durn
executiveBrent, I’ll add just one more point. Had we been sitting here 12 months back, what people anticipated for the year was that FX would act as a fairly meaningful drag on how we performed. That shows up when you look at how our results came in and then set them against a constant currency basis. Early on, in Q1, the gap between the as-reported figures and constant currency was fairly meaningful. Once we reached Q4, you could see that gap narrow. Looking ahead to FY 2024, the position is closer to neutral, perhaps a modest headwind. It’s still too soon to make a precise call, but I think that setup looks a bit different and may be only a modest headwind compared with what we saw 12 months ago.
Brent Thill
analystAppreciate the context.
Jay Vleeschhouwer
analystJay Vleeschhouwer here — thank you. You pointed out how strong RPO was during the quarter, and that it set a record for sequential growth. Can you share your outlook on RPO for fiscal 2024? Should we anticipate that it keeps expanding several points faster than revenue, the way it did in fiscal 2023? And maybe walk through the factors that will keep propelling RPO — whether by segment or any other points you think are worth mentioning.
Dan Durn
executiveYes, thank you, Jay. If I try to connect several of the points raised during this call, Anil mentioned that big transformation-oriented agreements have become the preferred vehicle, with customer experience management at the same time fueling both revenue growth and cost efficiency, and spending aimed at advancing those has become unavoidable in the marketplace; a comparable pattern shows up with the fresh technologies we are introducing on the DME side of our operations. We are experiencing considerable demand from enterprise clients. So when I weigh that landscape alongside how we performed relative to that chance, it generates the kind of quarter-over-quarter RPO improvement witnessed from Q3 into Q4. Not every quarter will match that magnitude, yet the surrounding conditions supporting that trend for our company, based on the position we foresee, ought to make the entire year another robust one for RPO.
Jay Vleeschhouwer
analystThanks a lot.
Jonathan Vaas
executiveOperator, we're nearly at the hour mark, so we'll take 2 more questions and then call it a day. Appreciate it.
Saket Kalia
analystAlright, that's great. Hi everyone, I appreciate you answering my question, and well done on a solid quarter. David, this one might be for you — I wanted to ask about Firefly and those subscription packets. I realize the commercial model for Firefly credit packets only launched roughly 6 weeks back. Still, have you noticed anything in the early going regarding whether customers are willing to purchase additional packets, or perhaps around the way they're using up that first credit allotment that comes along with a Creative Cloud subscription?
David Wadhwani
executiveSure, I’m glad to address that. So, to start with, from a broader perspective—if we return to what was shared during the investor meeting and at Max—our main objective is encouraging use of the generative features, and the fact that 4.5 billion images have been created shows this approach is succeeding. Next, when it comes to the generative packs—apologies, I mean we folded the generative tools and credits straight into the paid subscriptions, specifically to encourage uptake of those paid plans and make the ability to use them widely available. What we’re observing is substantial engagement inside those paid offerings. As we’ve noted before—and I think I said this earlier today too—Generative Fill in Photoshop, for instance, has become the quickest-expanding capability we’ve introduced to Photoshop in recent memory, so both usage and utilization are strong. Personally, I don’t anticipate generative packs making a big difference in the near term, beyond bringing more usage and more customers into our current paid subscription offerings. What will occur across this year and in the coming few years, though, is that we’ll keep adding more generative tools into existing product workflows, and we’ll include things such as video generation, which costs more than a single generation, and that will create a natural kind of inflation in that market, and later on that becomes a growth driver. But this year, the main emphasis is really on moving people into the appropriate paid tiers of our flagship apps or Adobe Express, and then encouraging usage in that way; after that, as it unfolds, everything else will sort itself out over the years to come.
Saket Kalia
analystThat tracks. Appreciate it, everyone.
Mark Moerdler
analystThanks for fitting me in. I truly appreciate it. Dan, I want to spend a moment on that MAX. We talked about your enthusiasm for Firefly and the way it fuels Creative Cloud seat and paid seat adoption. Now that it's been on the market for a while, could you walk through your thinking on how this will push paid seat growth? How strong might it be? And should we anticipate those seats carrying a lower unit price since they're entry-level, or do you believe that gets offset by higher priced Firefly-driven sales into the enterprise? Thank you.
Dan Durn
executiveYes, thanks, Mark. At the heart of, you know, making this technology real, you know, as a standalone application that drives the ideation portion of the process, but the value comes from deeply weaving these capabilities into the flagship applications and the workflows that shape the creation process, it hands us a lot of surface area with customers and lets us meet them where they are in their particular needs and use case-specific needs. So, pulling people in efficiently at top of funnel, building out the segmentation across that product portfolio, pushing efficiency into the creation process, and letting velocity flow into the ideation, creation, activation, and then instrumentation of that to really sharpen how companies engage with customers; it sets the foundation for us to reach more customers where they sit in the ecosystem, get them on board in a use case-specific way, and then guide them along digital journeys, which is something the company excels at with our DDOM, to cross-sell and upsell throughout the life of their engagement with our ecosystem.
Shantanu Narayen
executiveOn the product side, Mark, the main objective for us is figuring out how to keep expanding access to what we offer — making it enjoyable and within reach for a growing number of customers. Firefly strikes me as one of those turning points that can help everyone move past the fear of staring at an empty canvas. So to begin with, when you consider Firefly for ideation, with people dropping in seeking creative inspiration — whether that's an individual user or an agency — we're witnessing substantial uptake of Firefly simply to kick off the whole creative process, and that draws them in as an entry point toward Express, which is the other piece. Express is, of course, the introductory price point, the means to bring millions more people on board. And at present — whereas previously Express and similar offerings all fretted over "do I have the right templates?" — AI is going to transform that entirely. Since we own our models, Firefly lets anyone take any creative concept they have and bring it to life. So Firefly, I'd say, genuinely boosts the Express offering. When it comes to Creative Cloud, David touched on this. If you look at how that functionality is being adopted and the usage it's generating — in Photoshop at present, in Illustrator, and as we introduce video — both by delivering greater value, and we will consequently see a pricing uplift, plus the retention benefit for Firefly. That's where I believe you'll observe many of the truly fascinating dimensions of how Firefly fuels both adoption and monetization. Then, shifting to the opposite end, the enterprise side, there's GenStudio — every marketer I'm acquainted with, along with CFOs and CMOs, worries about: what am I shelling out for data? How can I gain agility in my campaigns? And the reality that Firefly is woven into both Express and the custom models we build for them, enabling them to upload their very own models and then achieve the brand consistency they're after. So Firefly truly is — given that we possess our own models — a powerful catalyst for business across the entire spectrum, and the usage and adoption bear that out. In emerging markets, as folks there grow more accustomed to generating content variants and localized content, that's another place where we're witnessing enormous usage of these technologies. So it's genuinely thrilling. So then, you know, if you apply that same tech we've got in Creative and consider what it could do for Document Cloud too, right? And, you know, being able to generate summaries and have chat-style interactions with PDFs — which means each individual PDF, like David mentioned once more, serves communication, collaboration, and creation — becomes much more powerful. My belief is you'll witness that same sort of boost in usage, and consequently in monetization, over on the Acrobat side. Because that was the final question — I mean, you know, from our perspective, when we look at FY 2023, we feel genuinely proud of everything we managed to achieve, you know, across every area: top-line revenue, RPO, and growing our book of business, Creative Cloud, Document Cloud, and Experience Cloud, plus profitability. You know, our view is that 2024 will bring much the same — that is, you know, keeping up strong innovation, strong product growth, strong profitability. Obviously, I think, you know, there have been several questions regarding digital media ARR, and you know, where we stand on it. You know, we have tremendous confidence in how that remains a growing business. You know, maybe the effect of pricing got overestimated. Like we've said, you know, once again, this is a new growth business, and it will deliver a multiyear pricing, you know, advantage for us when we consider the uplift we've got. So we're truly happy. We're grateful for your joining the call, and like many of you told us, happy holidays, and, you know, we're looking forward to seeing you before long. Thanks for being with us.
Dan Durn
executiveThanks, everyone. Happy holidays; this concludes the call.
Operator
operatorThat brings another session to a close. We appreciate everyone joining us. At this point, you're free to hang up.
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