Altair Engineering Inc. (ALTR) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 14, 2020

NASDAQ US conference_presentation 34 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Johannes Schaller

analyst
#1

Good morning. Welcome, everybody. I'm Johannes Schaller, Head of Software Research at Deutsche Bank in Europe. I have with me on the line here today, Howard Morof, CFO of Altair; and also Dave Simon, Chief Administrative Officer of Altair. We're going to do a fireside chat. There is a question-and-answer tool on the web. Please feel free to submit any of your questions as we speak, and I will ask them on your behalf.

Johannes Schaller

analyst
#2

I think with that, probably, we kick off with the first question. So thank you, both, for joining. And maybe could you start giving us, really, just to start with a bit of a quick overview of the Altair business model, your key strategic objectives and also the medium-term goals you have for the business?

David Simon

executive
#3

Sure.

Howard Morof

executive
#4

Go ahead, David.

David Simon

executive
#5

Howard, do you want to take that one? I'll say -- I'll take the business model. And then as we get into some objectives and a bit of the financial framework, we'll turn it to Howard. So Altair is a leading company in data analytics, simulation and high-performance computing. We very much see those 3 things as converging. We've -- we come from a 35-year history, beginning with roots in engineering, simulation, very physics-based analysis; saw the convergence of simulation and high-performance computing in the early 2000s, and that really informed how our simulation software was developed and is offered out. And then more recently, as we have the ability to generate very large data sets through simulation and high-performance computing in response to a lot of customer pull toward what do we do with all this data, how do we implement machine learning and artificial intelligence made a very deliberate move into data analytics. The Altair business model is very unique, a key strength for the company and something that we believe very strongly in 2 reasons. One, it has demonstrated for literally decades now the ability to deliver consistent, organic, double-digit software revenue growth, emphasis on organic there. And the second reason is it delivers a tremendous amount of value to our customers, and that's a good thing. It just helps the world move forward. The business model is really centered around Altair units in that when you're purchasing software from Altair, you're not buying a specific software title tied to a specific number of seats. You're buying a license to the entire -- or subsets but a broad Altair portfolio that gives you access to all the software that you may want. And therefore, as you try to move from one technology to the other, there's no friction. If you're doing work in computational fluid dynamics and now you want to work in antenna placement, electromagnetics, it's right there. No additional licensing required. This leads to and circles around on a couple of key metrics. One, our software at this point is around 83% of revenue. Of that 83% revenue that is software, over 90% is recurring revenue. And the preponderance of that is 1-year annual lease subscription. The other interesting number, we have more than 11,000 customers. Of our double-digit organic revenue software growth every year, 60% of that growth comes from existing customers. So we're very much about land, expand and then continue expanding inexorably. Howard, I think that's the point where I usually say Howard is filling the gaps and maybe extend out a little bit in terms of other metrics you think we should be talking about.

Howard Morof

executive
#6

Sure. Our -- we continue to grow on -- pretty substantially on an organic basis. Although over the course of time, we've done 33 or 34 acquisitions, the vast majority of which are technology tuck-ins that add breadth or depth or some fascinating technologies, for example, like SIMSOLID or the most recent acquisition in S&WISE. We've been very clear about our objective to continue to grow the business in an industry that grows at about 8% as measured by some data, at least, on the CAE side. We've been able to outrun that growth rate pretty substantially. And as software continues to be more and more dominant in our revenue mix, that will add to margin expansion for us, driving us towards our long-term targets of 20% or better on an adjusted EBITDA basis and potentially beyond.

Johannes Schaller

analyst
#7

Great. Thank you, Dave. Thank you, Howard. So I mean you basically already said you think Altair has a pretty unique offering, pretty unique company. But how do you see yourself placed against competition? I mean who are the main peers you're competing with? And how do you actually differentiate versus those peers?

David Simon

executive
#8

Sure. So stepping back a little bit to the landscape of enterprise software, particularly in the PLM space and also on the data and analytics space. At a typical large-ish enterprise, the software landscape is very, very crowded because there's a lot of tools being used at companies. It's not uncommon to have literally hundreds of pieces of software being used throughout a PLM process. Altair has always been a company that works well with other software. We have as our hallmark interoperability and open architecture that stems from our roots as a modeling and visualization company, where we, by definition, have to work with all of the CAD companies and simulation companies. So absolutely, we compete head on head with other companies in the PLM space, different areas of simulation and the same on the data side. At the same time, we understand that to be useful to our customers, we are never asking them to stop doing things and throw a bunch of software out in order to use Altair software. We're saying, "Look, we can be useful within your very heterogeneous or very software complex space." And we make it in because, "Oh, Altair's software is better for computational fluid dynamics than the other guys or why we really love Altair's structural optimization or the SIMSOLID stuff is really great for extremely rapid simulation directly off CAD data." Whatever the initial reason is we get in and then just, again, continue growing usage very easily because of the licensing model that makes it easy to do so. So kind of -- we look at everybody in the PLM space, in the data analytics space, both as a competitor and as somebody that we need to work well with on a technical basis in order to make things best for our customers.

Johannes Schaller

analyst
#9

Great. Before we go a little bit deeper into the details of your business, I mean, could you maybe discuss really how you see the current macro outlook? Maybe you can give us a sense also how you're looking at the world now coming into September where the lockdown restrictions seem to have eased globally and whether that has improved your visibility for the full year.

Howard Morof

executive
#10

So the -- yes, obviously, we're a company that with terrific geographic spread, we're roughly about 1/3, 1/3, 1/3. It's hard to paint the globe in a unified picture. Certainly, there are signs that things are improving compared to where we were, certainly 3 months and certainly 6 months ago. I think our view is to continue to be pretty cautious and conservative in terms of the overall view because in this environment, a day is like a week, a week is like a month. I mean there's a lot of still uncertainty out there. That said, there's -- what's proven true, and this is very different. It's a very different perspective compared to the '08, '09 cycle, where we had an even heavier concentration, for example, on the automotive side to our CES side of the business, the technical staffing side of the business, where we're staffing engineers and data scientists and such. In the '08, '09 cycle, the pretty quick reaction from -- which is -- and this is predominantly a North America business, was to reduce headcount by our customers. These are people on full-time assignment at company locations and such. There was a significant contraction in the number of people employed in those deeply technical areas. This time around, what we have seen with the exception of one customer who actually -- it's really a mistake on their behalf, our customers have really wrapped their arms solidly around their deeply technical teams and have done everything possible to avoid the types of layoffs or contractions that we saw in the last really difficult business cycle and granted the genesis of '08, '09, and today's environment is certainly very different. But the behavior is notably different in the sense that it's taken these entities the better part of a decade to build these teams of technical specialists, realizing the full benefit of simulation and analytics and high-performance computing, helping compress design cycle times, take -- and create more value for their customers, for their end customers in a more quick and efficient way. So that, to us, is a real telling indicator that just as when we emerged out of the '08, '09 cycle with significant opportunities in 2010, '11 and 12, long before we were public, we expect that the realization of the value of broadly simulation and analytics and such, it resonates really strongly. So prior to us going public, our customers used, on average, just under 15 applications across the course of a year, a licensing cycle. Today, those same customers are using 20-plus applications over the course of just a given year, as our -- even as our customer base has broadened over that time period. So our view, long term, is really quite optimistic in terms of the types of tools and technologies that we bring and what it enables our customers across a wide range of industries to do, especially now in an environment where virtual really matters.

Johannes Schaller

analyst
#11

Great. That sounds very promising. Before I go more into your specific products and product suites, can you generally talk a little bit about renewal rates and how they look currently? I mean I think you said 60% of your revenue growth is coming from existing customers. And has the situation around deals somewhat normalized now? Or do you still see some larger deals maybe being pushed out a little bit in your pipeline?

Howard Morof

executive
#12

So renewals have continued to come in, in what I would consider to be due course. Our type of technology is not something that it's not an on/off switch. R&D, which is actually a relatively small part of our customers' overall spend, it's really not a toggle switch that's on/off. So renewals continue on in pretty fair step, so we've not really seen any significant change or disruption or any insight into any of that. The earlier part of COVID-19 for many of our customers wasn't so much about renewals. It was about organizations that were very accustomed to working with large groups in person and larger facilities, having to pivot to work on a virtual basis, so a lot of our efforts, sales that, secondary to simply enablement of our customers, to operate in a virtual basis. We offer something called hosted units, hosted Altair units, where we can actually manage the licensing challenges for our customers. So a lot of folks converted over into that environment to make it very seamless and easy for their broad teams to operate on a virtual basis. So now we're pivoting back to normal sales and marketing activities. The amount of engagement from a virtual perspective far exceeds what we could have achieved in a physical presence side. So again, optimistic as we look forward. Renewal rates, like I said, holding up. I think the expansion part of the land and expand, that will start to come. As a reminder, we're pretty large in terms of our renewal time lines in Q1 and Q4 with Q2 and Q3 being more modest in terms of that overall level of business activity. So again, we've been kind of cautious looking at Q4 or the balance of this year, which we do think is prudent. On the other hand, we're, like I said, pretty optimistic looking forward.

Johannes Schaller

analyst
#13

Perfect. So now going a bit deeper into the business and do different offerings. I mean maybe we can start, if you can talk a little bit more about Altair One and where maybe you -- whether you're seeing an acceleration in demand for that marketplace solution, considering the cloud-enabled, remote-friendly nature of that product in the current environment?

David Simon

executive
#14

Yes. So look, the move to cloud is very long term. There's a lot more discussion and recognition of the potential of cloud, then there is probably actual percentage of work that gets done in cloud. I think a lot of companies still kind of have an on-premise computing mindset, and it's evolving, right, over time, right. And Altair is always very long-term focused, right? So for us, when we talk about 5 years, that's not very long. So that's our time frames, right? We think that, over time, the cloud will become much more seamless. So that whatever device somebody is working on, it's going to be treated as a very thin client, where they're really not even aware of whether their computations are being done on-premise, in the cloud, on their local device. It's going to be very seamless thinking toward that. And I think that's, in a lot of ways, how we know it's successful is that users aren't really aware of where their computing is being done. Specific to COVID, one of the things that we did to take advantage of our cloud offerings were hosted units. So one of the bottlenecks as people began working at home was the VPN pipeline into on-premise computing. It sounds great, oh, everybody just work at home and grab their -- whatever softer they need from the service network, but VPN pipelines were not designed for the -- for this sort of bandwidth. The Internet appears to have held up really nicely in terms of work bandwidth, but VPNs were really choked. With hosted units, it separates the license server from computational location, and it allowed our customers to go out and very easily grab license files and run locally or at work premise or cloud and then move data around sort of in burst instead of a content stream. So it was a really good way to help our customers through the COVID transition, not necessarily an inflection point, but more of a demonstration point that, hey, this is really enabling some seamless workflows. And that as time goes on, we think cloud relevance just continues to increase.

Johannes Schaller

analyst
#15

And when we speak about the cloud and maybe specific to Altair units, do you see a kind of profitability difference between a customer coming to you using the cloud or going the more traditional way? I mean does that make any difference for you from a margin perspective? And how should we think about that?

David Simon

executive
#16

No, no, no. It's not a margin thing. We think about it in terms of what is the best way for our customers -- for the world, right, to make the most use of data analytics, simulation, high-performance computing? What is the way that those technologies can do the most work? And clearly, having cloud enablement is key to that picture, right? So we think that customers are more profitable when they're doing more simulation and doing more data analytics. We think as time goes on, cloud is going to become a bigger part of that strategy. So it's more of a usage increase view for us, certainly, than it is than a sort of a margin view.

Johannes Schaller

analyst
#17

Understood. Maybe could you follow up a little bit on the progress within data analytics at Altair, specifically with regards to Datawatch and also whether there's been any progress with the migration over to unit-based pricing and if you still see a lot of opportunity for Altair in this segment?

David Simon

executive
#18

Yes. Howard, do you want to take that? I mean it's easy for you to say yes, but I'll let you fill in the gaps.

Howard Morof

executive
#19

Yes. No. The progress on the acquisition at this point, I mean, it's rare that you'll actually hear us use the word Datawatch anymore. It's all about data analytics. The -- so we're really excited to have the full suite embedded within Altair units. All of the work necessary in that regard has been done, and I would say well behind us. A lot of other developments into the technology, whether it be the Panopticon technology in terms of real-time streaming on really high-value information, which is used by many of the largest financial institutions, trading desks, for example, to the upgrades and such in terms of Monarch and such, in terms of the data prep side, and of course, the immense amount of interest in the AI/ML applications. So all of that's behind us. The sales force is full and engaged and such. So really, it's now just as much in the natural part of our business as any other of the key technologies that we deliver to our customers. So it wasn't necessarily the most elegant road to get there, lots of challenges in terms of the acquisition and such but well behind us, including embedded within the licensing model and what have you. Anything further to add on that, Dave?

David Simon

executive
#20

No, no. You said it pretty well.

Howard Morof

executive
#21

Yes. And by the way, and this is most important, the foundation for why we were looking at these types of applications, whether to acquire or partner or what have you, was real genuine interest from our, I would say, existing or traditional Altair customer base. And that remains absolutely 100% true where there's genuine interest in the use of these tools to make -- enhance the decision-making process as they wrestle with more and more streams of data coming into their environments from lots of different places. And especially now, it becomes really important to leverage that data, again accelerate product design, decision-making and analytics types of decisions. So we're quite happy with the progress.

Johannes Schaller

analyst
#22

Great. Maybe talking a little bit about another acquisition. You recently acquired a company in South Korea, S&WISE. They are a provider of PU foaming simulation software, and you plan to integrate that into your Inspire product. Can you discuss the opportunities you see for those solutions? And also, if that's something that could become meaningful financially for Altair, if you see that rather as a kind of smaller addition to the portfolio?

David Simon

executive
#23

Yes. So first of all, we have actually another investor conversations last -- today, but I've been using this as an example of an absolutely typical Altair acquisition, right? It fits our playbook. It fits the portfolio. It's a small company with great technology and great technologists. We've made, I think, Howard, the number now is 34 acquisitions over the past couple of decades, right?

Howard Morof

executive
#24

Yes.

David Simon

executive
#25

And almost all of them look like this, right, small company, not really noticeable revenue. And again, our revenue growth, we always think of it in organic terms. The technology that we really like. And the first thing we do is we take that technology, we ramp our licensing around it, and we deploy it out to our customers. What we do not do is say, "Oh, here's how much per seat we're going to charge. And here is how many people do, in this case, foaming simulation, and here's how big the market is." That's not our playbook. Our playbook is to get great technology out to our customers that, in turn, drives increased usage of our software. And then over time, as we look at usage with our customers and do these annual renewals, we get an increase. It means that revenue is always increasing a bit behind usage. We think that's very healthy. We never feel like we're getting more revenue than our customers are getting value. We always feel the opposite. And again, if you talk to our customers, they believe very strongly in this continued stream of added value. Again, we've demonstrated literally decades of double-digit organic growth based on this. Another note is that, very typically, when we make these acquisitions, the founding technologists stay with the company. If you look at these many, many acquisitions over years, when you look at the core people who developed the technology and the businesses and came into Altair, they're still with the company. So it's a very long-term view. It's a view toward providing valuable technology to our customers. And over time, that's a big part of how we end up seeing our revenue increase. Howard, do you have more to add to that?

Howard Morof

executive
#26

No, I think that's -- I think just to emphasize, the vast majority of our acquisitions are really tuck-ins. And being able to find great companies with proven technology that serve a particular market in leveraging our units to be able to go, I would say, globalized to 11,000 customers is that -- this one is straight down the center of the types of activities that we'd like to pursue.

Johannes Schaller

analyst
#27

I guess these types of businesses are not too easy to find. Can you maybe run us through your screening or to use kind of soccer terms, maybe scouting process? How do you find those businesses? I mean you're really doing those deals on a very global basis. And kind of what's the secret here in your screening process? How you get to those...

David Simon

executive
#28

Very, very direct involvement at all levels with technology in these spaces, right? I mean we are very global. We're very deep technically, right? We are -- we know the technology space. We enjoy the technology space. We believe in it. And so it's constant conversations with customers, with partners. One place that we do a little bit of scouting, our Altair Partner Alliance, right? We got this partner program where, in addition to 40-or-so Altair software titles, there's another 150-or-so titles that people can access that are part of partner companies under licensing, and several acquisitions have come out of that partner program. But the same question, how do we find partners is that we, again, just being very, very present in the space. We're -- we've been in this business for 35 years, right? I mean we're not a management team that just sort of invested in something and let's see how the business does. We really understand this business and are involved at every level.

Howard Morof

executive
#29

With deep engagement at the -- with our customers, which is one of our hallmarks, coupled with the long duration that we've been in markets, Korea is a good example, our in-country executives, they have a really good sense of what's happening within, I would say, their borders. So there's a lot of opportunity that comes out of that, and it's up to us to determine what makes most sense for our customers on a more broad basis. So that's how we -- from an operating company perspective, that's how we kind of navigate through, in addition to key partnerships with certain universities and professors. And I mean that's part of our job, especially on the technical side, is to be connected and find the emerging technologies or the technological nuggets that we think really add value to the licensing model into our customers on an overall basis.

Johannes Schaller

analyst
#30

Great. Maybe if you look at things a little bit more from a vertical perspective, what industries that you're serving do you see as offering the largest opportunities for your products and services in the coming years? And why is that?

Howard Morof

executive
#31

Well, the answer is, actually, there's a lot of opportunity across the spectrum of our existing customer base, in part, because the emergence of data analytics really -- and other streams of data coming into the decision-making process and the traditional engineering product design and decisioning-making environment. So across any of the, I'll say, heavier industries, there still remains an awful lot of opportunity for simulation tools generally and ours, we believe, in particular, to continue to grow at a really healthy pace. When you talk about, for example, technology, which we really haven't talked about SIMSOLID embedded within Inspire, aimed at the design engineer, okay, now we're talking about really being able to leverage technology at a point in the product design cycle that had not necessarily been leveraged before anywhere near to the level that it could be to help further compress design cycle times to market times and as well leverage the deep expertise of simulation experts to do much more analysis, especially in a multi-physics way. And we know those are scarce resources. Those are difficult resources to hire and train and, and in some cases, hang on to. So there's great opportunity there, every bit as much as on the high-performance compute side, especially helping our customers navigate their internal shifts from data centers to cloud, or more likely in the future, hybrid environments, the fidelity, the amount of data that we're helping navigate or manage is just explosive. So all of that convergence play gives us a lot of opportunity across just a lot of industries, all around simulation and data and with kind of an underlay of leveraging compute resources. Dave, do you have more on that? And I know we're running tight on time, too.

David Simon

executive
#32

No. Again, I just think, as you said, it's broad, and it's got a lot to do with this convergence of data analytics with simulation on HPC. And it's a very, very positive feeling going forward, COVID-19 notwithstanding, a very, very positive feeling, going forward, about where we sit with our technology and our people, our technology and products and its relevance to how companies are going to go forward and succeed.

Johannes Schaller

analyst
#33

Maybe a last quick question, and we have one -- about more than a minute left. Your strategy for SMBs is really becoming more and more indirect channel approach. I think you talked about that a little bit on your last earnings call. How happy are you with that? And how is your relatively small SMB business growing right now?

David Simon

executive
#34

We've got more focus on, as you said, the indirect channels. We see that growing over time. It's not something that happens in 1 quarter or 2 quarters, but we see over several quarters/several years a really good growth so that I think a few years out we're going to look at our indirect channels and talk about it being a significantly bigger part of our business. But again, it's not an overnight thing. It's -- I think we're doing the right things over time to make that happen.

Johannes Schaller

analyst
#35

Great. I think we are right now out of time actually. So Howard, Dave, thank you very much for joining us. Thank you, everyone, on the line for listening in, and I wish everybody a good rest of the conference. Thank you. Bye.

David Simon

executive
#36

Thank you, Johannes. Thank you very much.

Howard Morof

executive
#37

Thank you. Thank you very much. Bye now.

David Simon

executive
#38

Bye now. Thanks.

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