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Good afternoon. This is the Chorus Call conference operator. Welcome, and thank you for joining the Generali Group First Quarter 2026 Results Presentation. [Operator Instructions] At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Fabio Cleva, Head of Investor and Rating Agency Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining our first quarter 2026 results call. Here with us today, we have the Deputy Group CEO, Giulio Terzariol; the Group General Manager, Marco Sesana; and the group's CFO, Cristiano Borean. Before opening for Q&A, let me hand over to Giulio and Cristiano for some opening remarks.

Hello, everyone. Good morning, and thank you for being with us today. The first quarter 2026 results marked another step forward in the successful delivery of our lifetime partner 2027. We are now in the second year of our plan and our focus on excellence in core capabilities continues to deliver tangible value for our customers, employees and shareholders. We have reinforced all of the group centers in the implementation initiative, especially when it comes to technology and artificial intelligence. This approach allows us to scale best practices more effectively and read the benefit of our fully integrated group. Overall, we have delivered strong growth in both operating and adjusted net results thanks to contribution from all segments. Let me highlight a few achievements from the first quarter that clearly demonstrate the success of our strategy. Start with P&C, gross insurance revenue grew by EUR 575 million or almost 7% year-on-year. This top line growth has a lot of quality needs while revenue growth continues to be mainly driven by price effect in both motor and non-motor, volume growth is increased positive contribution with volumes in written on motor growing 1.8% and we need even faster growth in accident health and disability at 3.4%. Let me also mention that Euro persistence has increased its consolidated gross turnover to EUR 1.2 billion in the first quarter marking almost 15% year-on-year growth. Looking at Motor following 2 years of deep pruning and the recovery in profitability achieved in 2025, we saw positive development with risk in force growing about 1%. Let me tell you that we could have achieved a higher volume growth in motor by expanding the book through more aggressive pricing. However, as we have said previously, we are squarely focused on cycle management. Therefore, we deliberately have made a strategic decision not to grow the numbers of cars faster. At that time, where price is slowing down and without further clarity on the implication of the Middle East situation, the cost of claims. In this context, we are disciplined and continue to explore additional growth opportunity only in very selected markets. A quick comment on the next head load, which has been rather significant in this quarter. This was most related to the heavy storms that hit the Iberian Peninsula and particularly Portugal, which represented almost 70% of our gross net cat losses. This is broadly aligned with the most recent insured industry losses for case reserve before IBNR that amount to approximately EUR 1.3 billion for Portugal only. In this context, our underlying performance was very healthy, with a more than 1 full percentage point improvement in the additional current year loss ratio, thanks to both motor and nonmotor. As highlighted in the press release, the amount of manmade losses was almost double that of last year at around EUR 65 million, amounting to 0 percentage points of the loss ratio. Therefore, the underlying improvement of the attritional current year loss ratio, excluding manmade, is close to 150 basis points year-on-year. As you know, our target for P&C efficiency is the GEX ratio, which improved by 60 basis points year-on-year to 13.7%. This ratio represents a productivity improvement journey in a more targeted way than the full expense ratio, capturing what we are doing to transform our core function, including claims that customer operation underwriting. We have a strong focus to push forward the extensive deployment of AII agents that automate workflows augments employee decision-making, improved service quality and drive operational efficiency scale. Reported expense ratio of 29.3% is up 40 basis points, reflecting higher acquisition costs and also the business mix. If you look at the expense ratio, excluding Europe assistance, it will be basically flat year-on-year at 28.7%. Looking at acquisition costs in isolation. The reported 21.2% in the first quarter would be 20.3% excluding Europe assistance and the year-on-year change will be in the order of 20 basis points as opposed to the reported is point increase. As we mentioned previously, we are implementing actions that will enable us to achieve not only beta ratio, but also an improved expense ratio. Let's move now to Life, where we have achieved very strong net inflow of EUR 4.3 billion, driven by contribution from all lines of business and benefiting from further improvement in less. Compared to the first quarter last year, recorded higher inflows in traditional savings. This is achieved with a strong level of new business margin and enabled us to record a very healthy growth in new business value. effort production is fully aligned with our underwriting discipline. The weight of non-guaranteed business is 75%. The overall guarantee is stable at 0.73% and the share of capital-light business is 83%. The overall development in new business value is clearly very satisfying. To be noted, the first quarter benefits from positive seasonality. So I would caution not to stipulate these numbers for the next quarters. But the key message here is that the light business continue to grow profitably and is growing without compromising of underwriting discipline. I'm also very pleased that protection health and accident, one of our key strategic drivers of profitable growth showed a premium increase of 6% year-on-year, while recording also at profitability. In Asset & Wealth Management, you have already seen a few days ago, the very good numbers from Banca Generali, we will continue to deploy the joint insurer bank initiative with a positive initial development. In Asset Management, as we indicated in the press release, there is a positive contribution for nonrecurring fees of around EUR 15 million. They reflect the successful business positioning of our infrastructure business. Although transaction fees can be less regular in terms of frequency, the recurring management fees, they are indicative of some invest capabilities and also reflect the success of our infrastructure business in originating and executing deals. Before I hand over to Cristiano, some closing remarks on the overall macro environment. Financial markets have been pricing in an increase in short-term inflation indicators due to higher oil prices. And while we are monitoring the situation very closely, we are confident in the strength of our business model. On the life front, the business is capital light and the high-quality investment portfolio, combined with disciplined ALM, ensure stability and resilience. Additionally, we have proven many times that we're capable to adjust to different cycles and match consumer needs in all kinds of environment, also thanks to our strong distribution footprint. For P&C, we are very focused on preserving the excellent level of profitability, and we are watching very closely the development of severity and frequency. And in some cases, we are already preparing to take pricing actions. Also, please keep in mind that 2/3 of our P&C book is non-motor and of this 50% is inflation indexed. In addition, investment yields are higher than originally projected which also benefits the P&C operating results. Lastly, an environment of our inflation is also likely going to support the P&C pricing cycle towards a new hardening phase. And of course, these overall contract creates an even stronger reason to push ahead with our key initiative on digitalization and automation. To summarize, the Lifetime Partner 27 plan execution is progressing very well and showed intangible results. Looking ahead, we remain fully committed to delivering on our plan objectives, maximizing profitable growth in P&C, leading life through quality production and expanding assets and wealth management. We are proactively managing the cycle to ensure a strong performance enabled by an effective center steering combined with disciplined local execution with a focus on technical excellence and productivity improvement. Thank you for your attention, and let me now hand over to Cristiano.

Thank you, Giulio, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. As Giulio mentioned, our first quarter 2026 results demonstrate continued strong momentum in the execution of our Lifetime Partner 27 plan. We are delivering robust growth across all segments with a clear focus on quality, resilience and profitability. This exemplifies our ability to navigate a complex environment while advancing our strategic priorities. Let me share some key highlights before we open the Q&A. . Giulio spoke about the life new business production. Let me focus on the live CSM, which recorded a 1.4% normalized growth. The end of the first quarter, marked a peak in financial market volatility and the low in equity markets. As a result, the CSM recorded slightly more than EUR 900 million of economic variances. The key drivers of this EUR 900 million movement were the widening of sovereign and corporate bond spreads accounting for around EUR 400 million, the increase in interest rates by around EUR 200 million, which impacted in particularly Germany and Italy, the decline in equity markets around EUR 200 million. And finally, higher volatility, especially in the equity markets, with around EUR 100 million impact. Clearly, the economic variances in the quarter were also a reflection of the single measurement date. If we were to apply the disclosed sensitivities and use financial market level of May 15, the CSM would be around EUR 500 million higher than the EUR 33.2 billion shown in the press release. Moving to P&C. Giulio has already mentioned the improvement in the attritional current year loss ratio. Let me emphasize that this improvement was achieved while maintaining the conservative booking of initial loss picks, which was a key feature of our 2025 results. Concerning nat cat, Storm Kristin exceeded our [indiscernible] protection set at around EUR 300 million, we this means that in the second quarter, we will book around EUR 19 million as rate statement premium, which will be recorded in the current year attritional loss ratio. I would like to elaborate on the prior year development. Last year, the 9 months 2025 call, I emphasized how a dynamic interplay between nat cat and prior year developed is the sensible approach for managing the business over the long term. This is why I indicated we would calibrate our prior year development dynamically, always within the boundaries of the best estimate approach. This approach enhances earnings predictability and mitigates the year-on-year P&L volatility throughout the year. The first quarter has seen significant nat cat events and as a result, you saw a higher contribution from prior year development in our numbers. I feel very comfortable with our ability to manage a combination of nat cat and prior year development this way in the long term. This confidence stand in the very strong level of reserving from the ongoing conservative initial loss picks. It is also reinforced by the new reinsurance structure that we negotiated at the last renewals where we used the favorable market conditions to significantly strengthen the contractual features of our cat aggregate program. Staying with P&C. Let me also highlight that the investment result growth was led by high quality factors and also thanks to the volume growth recorded last year. As you have read in the press release, this quarter is impacted by around EUR 50 million one-off tax component. This stems from the new French financial that extended 2026, the so-called surtax, which is based on the average taxable basis of 2025 and 2026. As such, the accounting rules requires us to recognize the 2026 tax in the first quarter 2026, considering the whole of the 2025 related so tax component. We expect that the residual component, the surtax will affect the group by less than EUR 10 million per quarter for the remainder of 2026. Moving to cash and capital. As you know, we scheduled most of our remittance into parent company coffers ahead of the dividend payment. We have already received around EUR 4.5 billion of remittance so far 2026. And as a result, the cash at the holding company after the EUR 2.5 billion dividend payment we made yesterday stands above EUR 5 billion, of which slightly more than EUR 3 billion is available. Finally, a word on solvency. As I mentioned this morning during the press conference, the estimated Solvency II ratio increased around 2 percentage points as of May 15 compared to the end of March. Let me provide you the moving parts during the first quarter. We benefited from healthy normalized capital generation, adding 4 percentage points. This is basically stable year-on-year as the higher contribution from life and financials is offset by the impact from nat cats. The noneconomic variances include both the prior year development effect as well as the solvency capital requirement increase from business growth and SAA optimization. The end of the grandfathering period reduced the own funds by EUR 1 billion with our 4 percentage points impact on the solvency ratio. Capital movements in the period shed 2 points, including both the accrued pro rata dividend and the subordinated debt operations. Finally, market variances impacted solvency for around 5 percentage points. This reflected, of course, the movement of equity markets and the widening of sovereign and corporate spreads as well as higher volatilities. Similarly to the CM, the Solvency II ratio is also a reflection of the single measurement day. March 31 was closed bottom of financial markets during the recent bout of volatility. Looking ahead, during the second quarter, you should factor in 3 elements on top of the normalized capital generation and the dividend provision for the period. First of all, we expect to receive the regulatory approval for the EUR 500 million share buyback with a 2 percentage point impact. Secondly, as we indicated that full year 2025, factoring 2 points stemming from the higher SCR following the SAA optimization. And finally, please consider that the downgrade of the Belgium sovereign from AA to single A occurred in April and will have a 0.5 percentage point impact on our Solvency II ratio. In summary, the quarter's performance highlights the strength of our diversified business model and our ability to generate profitable growth. I am particularly pleased by the quality that I see in the numbers when I look through the quarterly noise of nat cats and the financial market movements. This quality makes me very confident in the ongoing delivery of our plan. Thank you for your attention, and now we are happy to take all your questions.

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Andrew Baker with Goldman Sachs.

The first one, just on the Life Insurance Services result. Are you able to tell us how much of the 1Q result was from experience variances another? And then I guess, if possible, are you able to break that out by sort of the portion that you wouldn't necessarily project going forward and any items that you would expect to repeat because I believe the PAA business runs through this line. And then secondly, thank you for the additional detail on the higher acquisition costs in P&C. I guess, should we assume that there's a broadly offsetting impact from the higher acquisition costs in the current attritional loss ratio from the same mix effects? And any comments around that would be really helpful.

Thank you very much Andrew. The first question is for Cristiano and the second for Giulio.

So breaking down the operating insurance service resulted to the CSM release at EUR 828 million, which by EUR 55 million compared to the first quarter of '25, you should then have a couple of extra elements which create a movement. We had a slightly higher amount of loss components, EUR 31 million loss component with negative impact versus EUR 11 million last year, so EUR 20 million more which impact -- which reduced by EUR 20 million, the result as well as the experience variance and over technical results had a EUR 32 million positive contribution up going to the EUR 97 million amount in the operating insurance service result. And in end, the other operating income and expenses decreased to positive sense at minus EUR 37 million, which is an improvement of EUR 17 million versus previous year. I would tell you that there are no particularly one-off in the first quarter '26 number apart from slightly higher sensitivity on some loss components of interest rate up coming from our country, Italy, but there is a very healthy contribution in the other operating income and expenses of the so-called contribution from the investment contract under IFRS 17 accounting. So I would say pretty much good quality as what I'm hinting in the initial speech.

And to your question, whether there is an offset in the loss ratio, [indiscernible] you look at the numbers, including Europe persistence. In that case, you see an increase in the expense ratio, and there is an offset in the loss ratio. When we remove Europe as it stands, actually, the expense ratio is relative at -- in that case, I will say there is not much of an offset. So it depends how you look at the numbers. .

The next question comes from Michael Huttner with Berenberg.

Congratulations. So 2 for me if I may. The first one is 90% of the new -- I think you have 94.5% as a discounted combined ratio target. It feels like you're there and you're protecting margins. So I would say, yes, but you're probably going to say no, but [indiscernible]. On the cash, thank you for the explanation, Cristiano. I just wanted to add the EUR 3.5 billion you've collected in [indiscernible] I've forgotten the figures from last year. I just wanted to ask if you could help me on that, that would be amazing. And then being greedy, the [indiscernible] cover, I'm really interested in that. I think you did mention it at the full year, but I can't remember the details and how much more [indiscernible]

Thank you very much, Michael. So the first question is for Giulio. The second one is for Cristiano. The third one is for Marco.

So Michael, your question whether we are better than 94.5%, yes, we are better than 94.5%. I would tell you that already at year-end 2025, we were better than that number. And what we see right now is still very strong performance. So from that point of view, we always say we want to run as fast as possible. Now we also that the environment is going to become more challenging moving forward. So from that point of view, we know that as we move forward, inflation and risk premium is going to be more aligned with the average premium. So from that point of view, we are very well positioned. And moving forward, we will try to get additional improvement coming from actions that we can take always, on the portfolio and also the productivity improvement that we can realize. But to your question, are we better than 94.5%, Yes, we are definitely well below the 94.5%. And I will tell you, we're also below the 94% level.

Michael, happy to give you some additional detail on the aggregate cover. So as you remember, our aggregate retention is at EUR 1.2 billion in the range of EUR 3.2 million points of combined ratio, and we have a capacity of EUR 550 million. So at the moment, what we have seen is just -- clearly, we are commenting the first quarter where there was one big event but I would say we still have a lot in -- as a coverage in the aggregate. So -- at the moment, we have just seen the first quarter. Clearly, it's a first quarter that is higher, significantly higher compared to the first quarter that we had in the last years. The first 2 years -- the first 2 months of the second quarter are in line with expectations. So I would say that at the moment, we are still fine with our aggregate cover.

Michael, regarding cash, if I just take the picture as of today, I think compared to last year, we have already remitted around EUR 200 million more compared to the same period of last year as of today. I think we are between 90% to 95% total remittance. So if you make some math, you should compared to last year, slightly more remittance contribution in the second half in 2026 than what we had in 2025. So I think it is good news for you. .

The next question comes from [indiscernible] with Banca Akros.

Could you please provide more detail on any changes in the scope of consolidation and that might have affected the volumes and light gross written premiums on a year-on-year basis, if any? When I divide the life [indiscernible] the first quarter of 2026 by dose of 2025, I obtain a growth rate of 6.2% compared with the reported growth of 7.5%. And second, even the first quarter -- strong fourth quarter results, do you see scope for an acceleration in the coming quarters that could lead to an upgrade of the full year guidance? .

Thank you, Gabriel. The first question is for Cristiano, while the second one is for Giulio.

So overall, the only perimeter consolidation change is related to the IFRS 5 allocation on our Irish activity, but it is as a branch. So you should not have any impact in the GWP, as you are trying to hint. So in my personal opinion, I don't really probably catch the point. It is a true like-for-like for what regards to the [indiscernible]. Maybe I kindly ask if you can follow up with the IR team to better maybe grasp what is your question because I just would like to confirm change of perimeter when you look at the GWP. There is no material effect in the consolidation.

To your question about expectation top line growth for the second part of the year, I would tell you the following -- if I look at volume, let's say, the high price increases, volume in, as I said, also in the introduction, the speech volume in motor was plus 1%. I don't expect this number to get stronger. Considering that we are prone to really manage technical profitability. This number will we stay at this level. Potentially, if we need to increase prices, we are even willing to lose a little bit of growth to protect profitability. When we look at non motor, we see a very strong development both in nonmotor without accident health and in Accident Health. So if you ask me, I would expect that we're going to see this momentum continuing we can accelerate a bit. But fundamentally, I don't expect a much different outcome. Coming back to motor, we see what kind of rate increases might be needing maybe more towards the end of the year, and that might influence a little bit the trajectory of growth on the motor side. But fundamentally, the answer to your question is I would expect more of the same as we go into the second part of the year.

Gabriel and maybe just if I add on the first question, just to be sure, if you all ask, when we define like-for-like, our definition embeds as well a constant FX rate versus the quarter 2025. I don't know if that could help you in making your exercise, but is the standard approach.

Next question comes from Fahad Changazi with Kepler Cheuvreux.

So I was just wondering in terms of motor and the outlook. What was the price effect just for motor in Q1 and how you expect that to develop? And on the life business, could you possibly break out the impact on margin from the higher interest rates. And I'm sure it's in your comprehensive finance deep dive Investor Day. But could you remind us again when you strike the updated assumptions, is it H1? Or is it at full year?

Could you please repeat the first question? And just to make sure the second question is when we update interest rates in the new business margin of life?

Yes. When are you updating those market assumptions? Do they get updated H1 or the full year? And the first question was just looking at the price effect in motor in Q1.

Yes. Perfect. Perfect. So the first question on the price effect on motor is for Marco, while the other question is for Cristiano.

So as Giulio was saying, so we had still a positive development of motor on the price effect. So I would say, overall, we look at the growth that we are having on motor, mainly on price. But there is this time also around probably 1/3 of the growth would come also from volumes around that. So we are seeing these -- the more we go into the year, we see that this increase in average price are broadly in line with what we see on the risk premium development. So we are there. We don't see tailwinds. We don't see headwinds. We are more or less in line overall country by country, there are differences. But overall, we see that the average premium is developing in line with the risk premium. So as Giulio was saying, looking forward, we will adjust our posture portfolio by portfolio, making sure we maintain the level of profitability that we like to have in every different market. So we will look at the sign of inflation, if they're going to appear, we're going to look at the different effect of frequency. So all the component of the risk premium. And we are going to decide portfolio by portfolio in the second part of the year, what is the posture that we need to take, making sure that -- and I want to reiterate that we manage each portfolio for technical margin and not for any component of it, so not for growth or not for premium.

I've had -- regarding the methodology, our new business value is calculated with the beginning of period assumptions. So the number reported for the first quarter '26 is the year-end 2025 actual number. Just for you to be aware, had we had the benefit which this first quarter reflected because of the improvement to market condition was 26 basis points in this quarter. But if I take the end of period of March 31, and we calculate the new business margin for first quarter, 26 backward, let's say, there will be another 15 basis points. So I hope this helps. Every quarter, we use the beginning of period. .

The next question comes from James Shuck with Citi.

Both my questions are kind of on AI technology related areas. The first one really was to -- I just wanted to get a bit more insight into the productivity of the agents. I know the acquisition costs are very high, including or excluding Europe assistance. Are you able to share any productivity metrics amongst those agents? And also what the pipeline is in terms of rolling out AI-related CRM tools and perhaps any expectations there? And my second question, forgive me if you just [indiscernible] revenue. I know you have digital investment plan of EUR 1.5 billion to EUR 1.7 billion over the plan. Can you just remind me what your total technology spend is in agree? But I'm not sure that [indiscernible] would be included in it. And if you're able to split that into kind of keeping the lights on versus other, that would be very helpful.

Thank you very much, James. Both questions are for Marco.

Yes. So maybe before going specifically into one part of the topic, I would remind the effort that we are making on AI is broad and deep on any area of the group. So we are working a lot on scaling our use cases what we have presented in our strategic plan, the 16 use cases, and that's a big effort because we want to make sure that we get scale. One big topic for one big topic for us is getting scale in everything we do. So this is an effort that we constantly do. At the moment, we -- I can say we are around 55%, 60% of implementation of those use cases, and we plan to go to more than 90%. So some of the use cases technically related to the productivity in the agency. We want to make sure that we decreased the time spent by agents or by people in working for the agent, so inside the agency on back-office activity, our reconciliation, on discussing with us the different topic of a specific claim or something similar. And so what we are doing, we are also improving the productivity of the agency. Now -- some of this is going to be direct impact for the agencies. Some of these use cases are going to be inside our company. We are going to make sure that in the end of the year when we are planning to have a full deep dive on AI here in like in the whole group, we're going to discuss more in that also about this topic. One thing that is really promising, by the way, it's also all the development that we are having in -- on claims because this is actually helping the agency in managing the claims much, much better and therefore, talking to the client much better. For the overall total technology budget for the plan I think this is one big topic that we are tackling. So we see a lot of potential for reducing the development activity, in particular, coding that we do inside the group. So we have -- this is one of the big items that we have in our cost base. So we are targeting an improvement -- significant improvement on this spending. And even here, probably we can give you more detail by the end of the year when we do the [indiscernible]

The next question comes from Gian Luca Ferrari with Mediobanca.

A couple of questions for me, please. One is on the EUR 4.3 billion inflows in Life. I think if it's not the best result ever for the quarter, it's very close. I was wondering if you can give us a bit of color on how Q2 is going if you're keeping the same pace or slightly lower than that. The second, I think Cristiano already gave a bit of an anticipation, but I was wondering if you can share with us a guidance for new business margin for full year '26, considering the current level of interest rates. .

Thank you Gian Luca, both questions are for Giulio.

Yes. So maybe I'll start to also give you some color on the first quarter. On the inflows [indiscernible] the inflow. So basically, we saw strong inflows in France, where we are up 45% compared to last year. Also, we see that in our unit linked. We've said a lot of unit link as part of the hybrid. We also outperformed in the market. So that's a nice development. We saw also from an inflow point of view, a good trajectory in Germany, where we have doubled the inflows of 2025, the first quarter. And then also CEE, Eastern Europe is not a major a contributor to the inflows, but we see positive inflows also there. And then clearly, Asia has always contributing to the growth being clearly a growth area. So that's the picture that you see in first quarter, Italy has been relatively flat, a little bit negative, which is also the reflection clearly the strong quarter that we had at the end of the year. So there is always some sort of seasonality. If you ask me what we're going to see in the second quarter is similar, but clearly, there is some seasonality, as I said before. So usually, Asia [indiscernible] to be less strong as we go into the second quarter, France, I would expect to be more of the same, Germany, the same Italy, for the second quarter, I don't expect to see much of a different trajectory where we expect to see a different trajectory in Italy towards the end of the year. So bottom line is you're going to see something similar, but clearly, you need to adjust a little bit for the inflows because of the seasonality coming from Asia. But overall, I would say we are very pleased with the development. I would like to point it out also to the growth in value of new business, which is 19% in the stronger business margin. So I will say that, once again, we delivered good results on aggregate in the life side. The other one is...

Guidance on new business margin.

Yes, sure. So our guidance is 5.5%. I will say based on where we are right now, it's not difficult to imagine we might be better than 5.5% by the end of the year. This said, look, it's really not important that we're going to be at 5.6% or even a 6%. I cannot even exclude that we are going to end up there. We are very much focused on growing the value of the business. So clearly, we want to keep a high level of business margin. Fundamentally, when we make our decision is about making sure that the value of the business is growing. You saw that this quarter, and when you look at the CSA normalized growth, we are north of 5% for 2026, if you do a sort of a run rate, and that's clearly a good level because eventually, this is what is sustaining the operating profit growth. So to your question, guidance, we feel very good about meeting or exceeding 5.5%, but the focus is on growing value of business in a consistent manner.

The next question comes from William Hawkins with KBW.

Expenses, please. KBW has been doing work on admin expense leverage across the European insurers. And one of the things I've noticed is that loss ratio component of your [indiscernible] ratio is only about EUR 800 million from the presentation you gave a bit earlier this year. And as I understand it, that is only claims handling expenses that are not allocated to specific claims. So my question from that is why would you take such a narrow measure because presumably allocated claims handling expense just as addressable, if not more so, as what is central. And then secondly, if you were to take an all-in claims handling expense ratio, consistent with the 7% or so admin that you've got in your normal expense ratio, what would that figure be, please? And then secondly, if I could ask a strategic question. Could you gauge for me Generali's long-term interest in London and Global Specialty business? So if it's a bit less field. But at the moment, you're business there is negligible. And I've always assumed that it's completely off the agenda because your focus is more European personal lines and maybe Asia. I just wanted to make sure I'm not missing something in terms of your portfolio ambitions for that part of the business.

Thank you very much, William, both questions are for Giulio.

On the GEX ratio, I would tell you, it's pretty normal to allocate the unallocated loss expenses to the loss ratio. So anything which is different and will be totally to me, honestly speaking. So that's what usually is done in accounting. Now when we look at our GEX ratio, we include in the GEX ratio the unallocated part of expenses, and this is usually 2 to 3 percentage points of ratio will be there. So we are capturing the unallocated loss expenses in the trajectory ratio, which is going down. By the way, in this quarter, we had 20 basis points of improvement in the GEX ratio, which belongs to the loss ratio. But if you talk about normal accounting to the best of my knowledge, so I'm 100% confident without hesitation that you need to put a loss adjustment expenses in loss ratio, somebody is not doing that. I don't know what to tell you, but that's what account has always been, by the way. So it's not even a new development. So that's on that problem on the question about the specialty business London. I would say, you said we have a negligible price would say we have 0 presence actually at the moment in the Lloyd's market. What is important for us, we have a company called GCC, which is basically virtual entities, but we are running a GCC operations. It's about EUR 3 billion of operations. They are delivering very good results. So we are very pleased with the performance that the company is getting we want clearly to spend the company, diversified this business, which means we are clearly going to low cost the opportunity. They don't need to be in the Lloyd's market, but they could also potentially be in the lowest market knowing, However, the Deloitte market is a very peculiar market, which is very much prone to specialty, maybe complex specialty and also with a lot of U.S. business. definitely don't have appetite for the kind of business. So to your question is reality, it's more our intention to try to strengthen our commercial business to diversify that business, but it's not that we are targeting the Lloyd's market in a specific way.

The next question is from Iain Pearce with BNP Paribas.

The first one was just on Banca Generali. And they were flagging in the results that the Alleanza partnership has been performing very well. Could you just touch on what you're seeing from your side in terms of the Alleanza benefits, how that's impacting and how that is performing and if the run rate in Bank of Generali what you're seeing is sustainable. The second one was just on your comment on if you see higher inflation you expect or anticipate seeing a hardening of P&C markets again. I'm just trying to understand what you think -- what you're trying to say that. Do you mean that you expect to be able to price for that inflation? Or would you see -- expect that would lead to strengthen the market again and pricing ahead of inflation. I just want to understand those comments.

Thank you, Iain. Both questions are for Giulio.

I mean from Banca Generali Alleanza. I can tell you the [indiscernible] is going actually pretty well. We are very encouraged by the results that we're getting. And the target for 2026 are to achieve EUR 500 million of [indiscernible], which is the product is an Alleanza product, but sold through this platform of Banca Generali to achieve 15,000 current accounts. Right now, we are extremely confident that we're going to hit both targets. To your question, there was not a specific benefit for Alleanza because the benefits for Banca Generali are pretty clear. I would tell you the following. Of the EUR 500 million [indiscernible] we estimate that 40% is additional. So because there is always an element of cannibalization. And if you ask us how much of this for [indiscernible] just replacing other solutions and how much is on top, we will say that 40% of what we sell in [indiscernible] is on top. And the second point, I was personally in the agency of Alleanza and I tell you that the conversation you can have with the clients are very different because they are really holistic. You can give more and more sort of 360-degree. I would tell you that, in my opinion, the midterm, this is going to create more of binding the customers even more. So it's a share of wallet kind of things because we can access a share of wallet that we don't have, and this is benefiting as Alleanza and then also I believe customer retention is going to be even stronger. And I saw that with my own eyes, and it was actually pretty impressive. On the other one, on the inflation leading to the new [indiscernible]. So we will say that if inflation is going to increase, I would assume that the market is going to react. We cannot speak for others, but we can speak for us. And as Marco was saying before, our post is to always -- first is about technical profitability, making sure that we are achieving the marginality that we like to achieve. And we are even willing to a certain degree to forgive volume. And keep in mind that right now, on Motor, we have a positive balance. So from that point of view, we have even some cushion before we go into negative territory. So the bottom line is, yes, if we need to increase prices because inflation is going to go up, we are going to do that. And I tell you, that in some cases, we're already doing this, not necessarily on the motor side. I can tell you in Germany on the non-motor side, we're increasing prices in Eastern Europe. We are going to be more cautious. So we're already preparing that ratio, and then we are going to, as Marco was saying, watch the situation and act accordingly.

The next question comes from Andrea Lisi with Equita.

The first one is on P&C reserving, if you are already factoring in your reservation a level of inflation that is higher and consistent with the current market expectations. And the second question is on the rate effect that could have on the inflows in Life, we are observing that the curve is projecting a higher level of rates. So just wondering what are your expectations there? And if it is do you think that at some point, we will see a higher competition for example, govies. And very last question, if we have seen that when you [indiscernible] was quite vocal in referring to you as a potential partner and there are discussions -- potential discussions for developing partnership in both insurance and asset management, any indications that you could provide on this point on this topic would be super helpful.

Thank you, Andrea. The first question is for Cristiano. The second is for Marco, and the third one is for Giulio.

So regarding the higher infusions, so we are not seeing a specific spike in inflation versus the normal trend of serves so far. By the way, I recall you that our reserving technique embeds a prudent inflation. And as you know, the difference between inflation -- insurance inflation and CPI or CPI is different and usually, it is higher the insurance inflation. So we start already from a higher level in the spare parts, what we are monitoring most. We are not seeing it in the bodily injury -- the vast majority of the increase has happened already because of the change mainly because of judicial and tribunal rules [indiscernible] which were an inflationary factor. So I would tell you that the huge prudence that we kept in 2025, and we are still keeping in 2026 on our current year number, coupled with the historical level of prudency in the insurance inflation projected in our reserves make us extremely confident to manage it. Our reserving level has never been so high and I think the proof of our interplay in the first quarter is a pretty much good demonstration out of that. So I can confirm you, this is pretty much stronger.

So in terms of the effects of higher rates on Life, I think it's interesting to go back to what happened a couple of years ago. So when higher rates were there and inflation then was there. We have seen that the overall portfolio of the group was pretty resilient in terms of development in that situation. So clearly, it might be that we see higher rates. And as we have seen in the past, there could be more competition, especially on the short term, investment from, for example, Italian Saver due to the issuing of more Italian debt on the short term. I would say unit linked is more linked to equity more than interest rate. And I would say protection has proven to be pretty resilient in different environment. And it's probably what is we have taken away that there is such a strong demand for protection product that this will continue to go and we'll keep on growing in a nice way. So in the way we are seeing developing in the last quarter, even in different conditions. So I also have to say that the type of business that we do, which I remind you, it's typically multi-line. So it's traditional unit-linked protection is developed through mainly to proprietary distribution. And this is pretty resilient in different type of scenarios. We have seen that in low interest rate, we have seen in higher interest rates. So we are pretty confident that even after what happened in 2022, 2023, this is going to be the case. Consider also that until we don't see a significant increase in interest rate, what we have seen in 2023 already protect us from some of the lapses that already happened at that level of interest rate. So overall, I would say, we feel that our inflows and our life business, it's pretty, I would say, resilient in different conditions, external condition.

So your question about UniCredit, first of all, I would like also to say we're already working with UniCredit in Eastern Europe. So we have a very successful relationship there. Clearly, we have also, based on the collaboration that we have, clearly, we are always touch point with UniCredit. It's a great institution. I will say it's also if you say the metro in Milan, you are familiar between [indiscernible],. So it's easy to have a conversation with them. I think anyway, it's pretty common that the bank and the insurance companies have a conversation about what kind of cooperation we can do on the asset management side, the insurance side, but I will not read more than that it's normal that there is conversation going on. And this is not the only conversation we have.

Next question comes from Farquhar Murray of Autonomous Research.

Just 2 questions, if I may, both on Non-Life and actually mainly in elaboration on Iain's questions earlier. So you mentioned further potential pricing actions in Non-Life and you're at least partly linked them to the macro backdrop in the Middle East. So the first question is just to double check that the linkage there is predominantly coming from claims inflation. Or are there frequency perhaps even economic consequences you're keeping an eye out for there? And then second question, what are the triggers for moving to implement those pricing actions? It sounds like some [indiscernible] already gone through them.

Thank you, Farquhar. Both questions are for Giulio. .

Regarding the pricing actually because of the situation -- so we need to see first what is going to be the impact because of the land situation for the time being, we don't see inflation yet. Now according to some analysis, one might assume that default price stays up 25% or 30% over time, we might see an increase, let's say, in the loss ratio before we take any actions in motor 1% to 2%. So if this is going to happen, we're going to see this kind of increase we're going to react. But as we said before, right now, we don't see severity up. So for the time being, we are watching preparing. In some cases, we are taking actions, but because of other reasons, but we are not at the moment in a situation where claims inflation is going up. Then I would like to highlight that on the Non-Motor side, a substantial part of our business is indexed. So from that point of view, there will be a natural, if you want, offset in the case inflation is going absolutely coming back to what we said before, we are monitoring the situation. We're going to take action case-by-case based on what we see since you're asking anywhere about the impact coming from the land situation on when because we saw some calls with other competitors. On the travel side, we don't see major impact so far. Actually, Europe persistence in total was up 15% on revenue, and this despite clearly softening, especially in Australia, but the business was very strong in America. So for the time being, also, we have been able to more than offset the weakness in Australia because of the situation. We're going to continue to look at the evolvement on the revenue side. It's more the revenue side issue potentially on travel, but I can tell you, there may be a little bit of a headache but not anti change our delivery, not even for [indiscernible]. So bottom line for the time being, so good so far if I can add one topic, I think the phases that we went through in the last year of inflation made us learn a lot about where the first site of inflation comes up and show up. So we have a very good monitoring at the micro level of per and also going market-by-market portfolio for portfolio. If you think about, for example, material damage, we are able to look at the different spare parts, brand by brand, portfolio by portfolio and also the aggregation of those effects into Paris. So I think this is also a good way of looking or leading indicators of where inflation might come up because, as you know, when we talk about inflation, one thing is to think about the general inflation, one thing is to think about the claims inflation, which is completely different.

The next question is a follow-up from Michael Huttner with Berenberg.

I had 2 -- you may have answered one, but I wasn't sure. So on the frequency, I think the past has been declining, but some the way you've been talking in sounds like it was flat. I just wondered if you can maybe comment. And then remind me [indiscernible], you gave us basically the kind of Q2 figure pro forma as of today. But what is the impact of Solvency II review, which comes early next year?

Thank you very much, Michael. First question is for Giulio and the second on solvency for [indiscernible]

So when we look at the efficacy in Motor, we need to adjust for Portugal because in Portugal, we are picking up some attritional -- [indiscernible] frequencies and frequency that for sure related to the weather event that we had over there. So with more Portugal, actually frequency across the portfolio is relatively stable. We see a little bit of a different one compared to last year. Last year, we saw frequency going down across the portfolio. And now we see countries where frequency is going down. But in Central Eastern Europe and Central Eastern Europe in close also Germany, we saw frequency going up. We think this is related to the winter because 2026 winter was called compared to the winter 2025. So we see a little bit of a different trajectory depending on the currency. But when we look at the total portfolio, frequency is adjusted for Portugal is basically in line with the prior period level and also consistent with our plan assumption.

Thank you, Michael. So I'm not commenting again that your already done valuation so far of the second quarter. But referring to the Solvency II review, we can confirm that we are around the 15 percentage points. The important thing is don't forget that it will come into practice at the end of January 2027. So any decision that has to be taken in beginning of 2027 will already embed this already at the end of January, which is also positive and conducive for resiliency environment and security of cash flow since I know that both of us cares a lot.

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