Axon Enterprise, Inc. (AXON) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 5, 2023

NASDAQ US Industrials Aerospace and Defense conference_presentation 34 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Michael Ng

analyst
#1

Great. Well, welcome to the Axon fireside chat at the Goldman Sachs Communacopia and Technology and Internet Conference. I have the privilege of introducing Brittany Bagley, CFO and COO at Axon. Brittany joined Axon in August 2022 from Sonos, where she served as CFO and previously worked at KKR. My name is Mike Ng, and I cover Axon and hardware here at Goldman Sachs. We have about 35 minutes for today's presentation, inclusive of Q&A. So towards the end of the session, if you have a question, please raise your hand, and we'll get a mic runner over to you. So first, Brittany, thank you so much for making the time to come out here and be with us today. That's really fantastic.

Brittany Bagley

executive
#2

Thank you for having me. It's great to be here.

Michael Ng

analyst
#3

So why don't we start out with a higher-level strategic question. Axon is a leading taser manufacturer in the world. And it has developed relationships with 17,000 of the 18,000 U.S. law enforcement agencies. Taser has been the foundation in cross-selling sensors and cameras, which are seeing really strong underlying growth and has really helped to open up an entire platform of services and software. So to start, could you just talk a little bit about the evolution of Axon and the strategy for growth over the next 5 years?

Brittany Bagley

executive
#4

Yes, absolutely. So Axon has been around for 30 years. They really invented the market for tasers and the concept for tasers. So that's probably part of why we're the leading company doing that and providing that nonlethal alternatives. It has been an unbelievable journey to watch. Everything from 30 years ago, our founder, Rick Smith, trying hard to find product market fit and having to really go out and convince people and find the right market to where we are today, where he has just shown a relentless path of innovation and creativity around solving some of these challenges and some of these problems that we see out there. And so while tasers continue to be a really important part of our business, we have seen unbelievable growth from our body camera market, where we were really one of the first companies to talk about body cameras and the need for body cameras and the transparency that they provide when you do have one of these events where you need to pull some kind of weapons. And then beyond that, just the software business that we've been able to overlay on top of that, there's really been 3 incredible acts to the business that you see showing up in our numbers today. Our software business continues to grow incredibly quickly as we do see the adoption of some of our tools around managing the video data that comes off of the body camera. We have a lot more software tools than that, but our core product is the digital evidence management software that really handles the body camera video. And then I would say we continue to see a lot of opportunities in front of us, and we talk about those, whether or not it's using AI in our tools to continue increasing productivity going forward or robotic security measures as we try and keep more and more people out of harm's way on both sides by using technology. So great growth, great development, amazing 30 years. I'm excited to see what we continue to do next.

Michael Ng

analyst
#5

Great. It's a fantastic overview. Axon has a really wide range of customers for tasers. And the largest customer base is U.S. state and local law enforcement. My personal view is that a lot of Axon's market leadership in taser and also in software and sensors is driven by the strength of these relationships. Could you just talk a little bit about the nature of your relationships with law enforcement agencies as customers, partners and collaborators and how important that is to the foundation of the business?

Brittany Bagley

executive
#6

It's incredibly important, and it's what our CEO continues to spend a huge portion of his time doing. It's just going out and meeting with our customers and talking to our customers and listening to the challenges that they have using them as sounding boards when we come up with ideas of technology or a tool that we think would solve a problem. Do they agree? Would they adopt it? Does it actually solve their pain point? Is there something we haven't thought of? So our relationship with customers is incredibly important and we invested enormous amount of time with them understanding their needs and their business.

Michael Ng

analyst
#7

Great. While appreciating there's an opportunity that's well beyond U.S. state and local, could you just talk a little bit about how penetrated Axon is in U.S. state and local? And what's going to be driving growth there? Is it going to be growth in the installed base? Is it going to be increased revenue per user just as you sell more value-added products and increase the penetration of things like software and sensors?

Brittany Bagley

executive
#8

Yes. So I would say in our core U.S. state and local law enforcement customers, not everybody, but for the most part, they have adopted tasers and body cameras. What a lot of them have not done yet is upgrade to our fully integrated suite of software products. So we talk about how less than 20% of our customer base is on our bundled hardware software product, we call it our Officer Safety Plan or OSP. So we still have a very significant opportunity to continue to migrate our customers up. And it's not just up from a price standpoint, it's up from a features, functionality, capability standpoint. And I think that's really important because a lot of the software tools we're providing actually improve their productivity or allow them to do things better or more easily than if you only have a manual solution. You can think about auto tagging video or transcription along the software tools that are in that OSP bundle that we're migrating people towards unlock capabilities for our customers. And then I would say -- I do want to say that there are big opportunities outside the local law enforcement. We sort of have a two-pronged approach. One is adding technology and capabilities that could be valuable to our existing customers and the other is taking our existing technology and finding new customer opportunities for those, I think a great example. There are more, but I will say federal is a great example where there's a lot of parts of the federal government that you might not think of us being really great customers for us like Customs and Border Patrol or Veterans Affairs or there's other markets where -- and other customers where they are running their own police force or they're influencing police forces or they really have something much like our core customer base, that's an opportunity for us.

Michael Ng

analyst
#9

Great. How do you think about customer demand against the backdrop of domestic law enforcement budgets? What share of the budget is dedicated to equipment like tasers and sensors and cameras? How much stability or volatility is there in law enforcement budgets kind of year-to-year?

Brittany Bagley

executive
#10

Yes. So the nice thing for us is that while it's always helpful to have tailwinds in customer budgets and those have done well for the last few years. And from what we see they're continuing to be fine from a budget standpoint, we only make up about 1% of our customers' budget in customers where we're particularly lowered or particularly penetrated, maybe that's 3%, 2% to 3%. And that's really because technology is still a small slice of the pie in terms of what they're spending relative to something like salary or training. And so again, while budgets are nice to have good budget, for us, it's really about this piece of enabling productivity, enabling them to be more efficient at their job. That has an ROI on it. That's really measurable for our customers.

Michael Ng

analyst
#11

Great. So before we get into some of Axon's marquee products, I want to talk about the OSP, the Officer Safety Plan, which allows customers to bundle tasers and sensors and software in various combinations. So first, on the plane itself, what does it do for Axon's revenue visibility? How is the OSP program structured? And what's the adoption been today? You mentioned 20%, I guess, for U.S. state and local. Yes.

Brittany Bagley

executive
#12

Yes. So for the most part, we sell all of our products as a subscription. So about 90% of our 2022 revenue was tied to subscription or a recurring revenue bundle. So that's really how we sell, whether or not it's just a taser or a taser and body cameras or a taser and body cameras and software. What that does for our customers is it really makes it easy. They know what they're getting. They know how much it's going to cost them per officer per month. They tend to lock into long contracts, 5 years, 10 years. We've got some 12-year contracts. So that gives them a lot of visibility in terms of what they're spending and what it looks like. And then what our Officer Safety Plan really does, which we think is great as it just makes it all works better together. So if you've got our products and you're on the full bundle, you have a lot of features and capabilities that really make your taser or your body camera and the software work well together. So you take your taser out of its holster and it automatically activates your body camera and starts recording, things like that, that just make it a very seamless experience.

Michael Ng

analyst
#13

Great. When I think about the structure of the OSP as well as some of the higher-margin software revenue that you've been able to attach, it does a tremendous amount for revenue visibility. Axon has $5.3 billion of future contracted revenue on the balance sheet as of last quarter, which is more than 3x consensus revenue for next year. I certainly appreciate that. There's a lot of years over which that contracted revenue will be recognized. But could you talk a little bit about the stickiness of future contracted revenue? How do you guys think about it internally and some of the revenue visibility that it provides?

Brittany Bagley

executive
#14

Yes. It does provide really nice revenue visibility. It's a very nice feature of having this long-term contract subscription revenue. So it gives us a good amount of comfort with at least a baseline of revenue over the next, call it, 10 years. We expect about 15% to 25% of that future contracted revenue to convert in the next year. And then what we do on top of that is we go out and we look at our pipeline of new customers, contract rewrites, what do we have to go in and that's how come up with our targets and our forecast of what we're going to go do. And a lot of that is supported by new product releases, our software road map. When we know we're getting customers to upgrade, we've got 122% net revenue retention on $559 million of ARR. So that all really helps us understand what our baseline business is and where we can take it.

Michael Ng

analyst
#15

Great. Could you talk a little bit about the opportunity for upselling more premium tiers of OSP? How big of a revenue opportunity could that potentially represent? Is the pricing really going to be driven by things like TASER 10 and the next iteration of body cam? Or is there just more software that you're kind of packing into each of the premium tiers of OSP?

Brittany Bagley

executive
#16

Yes, yes, and yes. So as I think about our domestic business, I think a lot of it really -- first of all, the TASER 10 product is getting very good reviews. We're really excited with the reception we're getting for that product. That should be a very strong upgrade for us. AB4 is still a little bit newer than us, but has some really nice new features and capabilities, we're excited to introduce to the market. And then we continue to invest in and innovate on our software road map and talk about a lot of the new software features and capabilities that we're coming out with. So that gives us comfort that there continues to be a big opportunity to continue to upgrade our customers and migrate them into our OSP bundles or into the more premium versions of our OSP bundles. As I mentioned, we're still less than 20% penetrated on getting our customers into OSP. So we think that, that's a big opportunity with our existing customer base. We continue to land new customers and then landing new customer goes back to the federal opportunity I talked about. It goes to international. Over time -- I'm not going to say near term, but over time, we think the international opportunity is about 5x as big as the U.S. opportunity, and that's just based on how many officers there are out there and what the maths of that could look like. But we think that there's a big federal opportunity, big international opportunity. We're continuing to take our products into adjacent markets like the Justice Department with a very logical evolution of our police officers using our software products, commercial markets. So CHRISTUS Health, which is about the tenth largest hospital chain, is using our products. So that's on the enterprise side. So there are these very logical extensions for us of where we can continue to take our products into new markets and start the land part of the land and expand.

Michael Ng

analyst
#17

Great. Your comments around TASER 10 doing well to date is a good segue into some discussion around product-specific initiatives. So could you just expand a little bit more on the rollout of TASER 10 to date? What's been the feedback? How is adoption paced relative to upgrade cycles in the past? And ultimately, what portion of your existing installed base upgrades to TASER 10 over whatever time period you think is appropriate to measure it against?

Brittany Bagley

executive
#18

Yes. So we've got a couple of paths for TASER 10. We have new customers who aren't using tasers. We have customers who are coming up on their 5-year refresh cycle and are ready to upgrade, and TASER 10 is the natural evolution for them to upgrade to. And then we will have customers who maybe want to upgrade early because they like TASER 10 so much. It really is a product that is getting a very good reception from our customers, largely because you have 10 shots rather than 2 shots. So it increases your chance that you'll be able to successfully use the taser rather than having to go to an alternative and it shoots from 45 feet. So significantly more distance than our TASER 7 could shoot from. So again, it just goes to -- it can be effective in many more situations. And so I think when you look at all of those opportunities, we said in Q2 that most of the growth in our Q2 revenue in taser was coming from TASER 10. So in our first quarter out of the gates, we started to see some nice product adoption. We had a nice press release with Lincoln, Nebraska, who just refreshed up to the TASER 10. So we're still early, but we're starting to see really strong positive signs for TASER 10 adoption.

Michael Ng

analyst
#19

Great. Could you talk a little bit about the financial implications of the TASER 10 upgrade cycle? What is the gross margin for TASER 10 look like relative to the broader TASER business? How will that scale and change over time?

Brittany Bagley

executive
#20

Yes. So it's been a little lower than our TASER gross margin average out of the gate. A lot of that is because we're still doing the manufacturing by hand. We're not fully dialed in on the design. We don't have the automation fully scaled up. And so as we continue to dial all of those things in and get our automation equipment up and running, we would expect that it starts to look like our overall taser gross margins sometime middle of next year is sort of a best average guess for that. So a short near-term headwind, but not a long-term headwind, good start to be a tailwind on gross margins for us as we go into next year.

Michael Ng

analyst
#21

Great. Maybe switching gears. Cross-selling Axon sensors and cameras, such as body cameras and vehicle cameras, and related software has been a really important part of the growth narrative. To start, could you just size the opportunity for the sensor market? What products does Axon offer today? And how does integrated software play a role in differentiating the offering?

Brittany Bagley

executive
#22

Yes. So we've gone through sort of all of our markets and think we have about a $50 billion TAM for our products based on what we have out there today. And we do that in a very bottoms-up way where we think about where some of these products are truly able to be deployed and what that looks like. It's about a $22 billion software TAM. It's about a $10 billion TAM for our sensors market. So I think my punchline is there's lots of opportunity out there relative to where we are today that we're going after. And then as we add new product categories, whether or not that's AI or that's robotics automation, that opens up new categories for us. Like many of the categories that we're in didn't even exist when we went into them. So we created the category and created the TAM opportunity associated with it. And that's just deepen the DNA of the company is to continue to innovate and continue to drive new product categories.

Michael Ng

analyst
#23

Great. And you touched on this a little bit earlier in our discussion, but why don't we spend some time talking about your latest generation of body camera, the Axon Body 4, the AB4, which I believe began shipping at the end of June. What's been the response that you've seen to date? And how does the success of AB4 play into your outlook?

Brittany Bagley

executive
#24

Yes. So AB4 did begin shipping at the end of June. So it's a quarter or so behind TASER 10 in terms of really being out there with the customers and getting feedback. But feedback we've gotten to date has been good. I would say that there's a couple of things that we did with AB4 that make it a nice upgrade for the customers. One is we changed a little bit of the point of view, so you get a better point of view from the actual AB4 body camera basically gives you better quality in terms of what you're able to see. It's got better battery life. And then it's got 2-way communications. So you can actually use your AB4 to go back and communicate with your supervisor or get them -- get their eyes on the situation as it unfolds. And that's where we're excited for a lot of potential opportunities around capabilities or opportunities to do a job better or to make a situation better just to have that sort of real-time communication tools between the officer and somebody watching them.

Michael Ng

analyst
#25

Great. And what is the competitive environment look like for body cameras? It appears to me that your leading competitor is Motorola. What are some of the key differences in product or go-to-market that helps Axon stay differentiated in body cams?

Brittany Bagley

executive
#26

Yes. I mean I think it comes back to this real culture of innovation and coming up with new features. We innovated a lot when we came out with our AB3 and created products that just work better together. Things like geo-fencing, where like inside of a circle where a situation happens, you can have all of the body cameras turn on, maybe it's because you pulled your teaser. So it's really that integration between our hardware and software and the continued innovation like coming up with something like 2-way communication, real-time communications or watch me button. It's that innovation that we used to continue to differentiate ourselves and continue to drive our value with customers.

Michael Ng

analyst
#27

Great. Axon Fleet has been doing tremendously well year-to-date. I think revenue has more than doubled so far. Part of that trend, to be fair, has been through the reduction of backlog just because of supply chain constraints. But this also means that Axon has been effectively selling all the fleets that could be manufactured. So could you talk a little bit about the underlying demand trends at Fleet and also just update us on what's happening in the supply chain environment there?

Brittany Bagley

executive
#28

Yes. So Fleet is our in-car camera and the big feature that it enables is automated license plate reading. Not that there haven't been tools and systems for that, but the capabilities and the price point and the ability to have that be like an in-dash camera is pretty incredible for our customers. And so we saw a very good response to our Fleet cameras. We saw that great response as we were coming out of COVID supply chain difficulties. And so we really weren't able to manufacture as much as we wanted to until we got into the early part of this year. And then there are sort of 3 pieces of the Fleet camera. There's the actual Fleet camera hardware and it has to get installed into the car and make sure it's integrated with all of the software databases on license plates. So you've got to get it installed and then we can turn on the software capabilities that go with the license plate reading. I would say that we've done a pretty good job of getting caught up on our manufacturing and our hardware backlog. Now we have to get caught up on actually getting those cameras installed in the car and that we expect that coming out of this year, we should hopefully be at sort of a normalized run rate for that Fleet camera business.

Michael Ng

analyst
#29

Okay. Strength this past quarter was also supported by outperformance in Axon Cloud and Services products like digital evidence management, real-time ops, productivity tools. Could you talk a little bit about the demand trends you're seeing in integrated software and how you would size the opportunity today? And then could you talk a little bit also about the key features within Evidence and Cloud? What are some of the killer features or killer apps that customers are licensing the software for?

Brittany Bagley

executive
#30

Yes. So $22 billion software TAM as we talked about it. I would say are our DEM products, so our digital evidence management platform, which you can think about, is really taking the video off of the body camera. That is our hero product and software right now. And it's really a great enabler for our customers. We're also working hard on real-time operations and productivity tools for our customers. So one of the things that you probably heard us talking about on the last call was our Records and our Standards products. Those are products that we've been investing in and working on for a couple of years now, and they're at the point where we've gotten them deployed into customers. We're really starting to ramp up those deployments those products are coming online. Who are we competing with in those markets? Sometimes it's pen and paper, sometimes it's more legacy installed base customers. It's a pretty fragmented market. It's really part of our efforts to sort of add technology to make our customers lives easier and more integrated. And so that's really our overarching theme with our software development is sort of adding technology to our customers in ways they haven't had it before.

Michael Ng

analyst
#31

And then within software and sensors beyond body cams and fleets, Axon is also on the cutting edge of a lot of other things, drones. You guys just did the acquisition of Sky-Hero. So whether it's drones or something else, could you talk a little bit about other sensor product areas that you may be excited about and perhaps shed a little bit more light on Sky-Hero and the rationale there?

Brittany Bagley

executive
#32

Yes. I think the 2 I would probably highlight are Sky-Hero and robotic security and then probably VR. We're doing a lot of investment VR to help support training. So I would say on Sky-Hero, that's a recent acquisition we did. It's a relatively small company based in Belgium that has been doing a great job with indoor tactical drone. So think about the ability to send a drone into a situation inside of a house where an officer might not have visibility, might not know what the situation is. You can send in the tactical drone. You can get a camera on the situation, sometimes you can communicate with somebody in the house. You can really de-escalate the situation. And so in addition to making our officers lives easier, we also have an overall mission to reduce deaths between the police and the public by 50%. And so when you can add tools like this that take people out of harm's way, it can really help us achieve that moonshot. And so we think it's both a big market opportunity, but it's also part of the path to our moonshot. And then it's similar with our VR, which is training is a big expense. It's a big part of the budget for police officers, it's also really, really important. When you think about having everybody come out of a situation safe and unharmed, training plays a big role in that. And so the more that we can allow officers to get trained really well, be in a lot of situations, know how to use their TASER 7 or their Taser 10. And the more we can do that cost effectively to help with the police budgets sort of the better off everybody is. So those are 2 big areas we're investing in and talking about a lot.

Michael Ng

analyst
#33

Great. I'd like to ask a financial question. Axon has guidance for this year of revenue of $1.51 billion to $1.53 billion with 20% EBITDA margins at the midpoint. How is Axon pacing relative to those targets? How do you think about potential upside or risks related to some of the rollouts as embedded in the financial guidance this year?

Brittany Bagley

executive
#34

Yes. No, I think as we came out of the gate this year, we were appropriately cautious given that we had 2 big product upgrades to get through, our TASER 10 and our AB4. I think what you saw us come out with last quarter was a lot more confidence in not just the guidance we've given, but raising the guidance for the year as we've really seen very positive customer feedback and successful launches of both TASER 10 and AB4. We are still early in those rollouts. We just launched AB4 at the end of June. We're still ramping TASER 10. So what some of those curves look like are things that we're still sort of getting good real-time information on and we'll think about and reflect when we come out with Q3 earnings as we look at the year.

Michael Ng

analyst
#35

Great. Why don't I sneak one more in before I see if there are any audience questions. Could you talk about the drivers of EBITDA margin expansion towards your midterm targets of 25% by 2025. Where do you see the biggest opportunities for leverage?

Brittany Bagley

executive
#36

Yes, please. So I think we've talked out a couple of gross margin headwinds that we have this year. We have TASER 10 ramping. We've got AB4 ramping. We have installations on our Fleet hardware business. So we've had a few headwinds on growth margins. We should move through some of those. We should get TASER 10 automated. We should get to run rate on AB4. We should get to run rate on our Fleet installations. So I think that, that should help from a gross margin standpoint as we think about that as one critical component to getting to our 25% EBITDA margin target, adjusted EBITDA margin target. I think the other places then come into OpEx. So we talk a lot about continuing to invest in R&D. You probably heard from me many products that we just talked about that we have a lot that we are providing to our customers, software, TASER 10, AB4. I mean those are all areas that we continue to innovate and do product refreshes, investing in VR, investing in drones, investing for our future growth. And we continue to see an enormous amount of opportunity in front of us. So keep the R&D investments going so that we are really doing what we need to do for long-term growth trajectory. I think from an SG&A standpoint, we've invested a lot in last year and this year, that's what's embedded in our forecast of 20% is pretty healthy SG&A increases. We needed to do that because as a company, we had grown so quickly that we really needed to scale up our operations. We needed to make sure we had the right systems in place. I think what you'll see is that we've got a good foundation. So will it continue to grow from an absolute dollar standpoint? Yes. But will you start to see us getting leverage in our SG&A line item? Also, yes. And so it's really that combination of improving gross margins and getting leverage in our SG&A OpEx that will get us to that 25% target.

Michael Ng

analyst
#37

Great. Questions from the audience? Yes. One up here.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#38

As you think about the software business, how much of it is like video storage versus like workflow kind of per seat-based pricing, I sort of think about it in terms of volume and seats? And just tell me a little bit about kind of those 2 pieces of the software business.

Brittany Bagley

executive
#39

Yes. We do have a storage component for the video, something like at our most premium OSP plus bundle type of product, we're offering unlimited storage. And so I would say much more of it is focused about seats. It's about getting more officers using it. It's about getting more customer adoption in terms of driving growth.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#40

Okay. So the mix of the software revenues is mostly like a per seat pricing requirement?

Michael Ng

analyst
#41

It is, per officer per month...

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#42

Okay. And then there's product within that, that's not just kind of software storage -- video storage, I should say? Okay.

Brittany Bagley

executive
#43

Lots and lots of software products that are beyond just storage.

Michael Ng

analyst
#44

Other questions? Brittany, I was just wondering if you could talk a little bit about the TAM expansion opportunity. There have been a lot of headlines about how cities are approaching public safety differently and some of them are even hiring private security firms. So what's the opportunity to move more into things like private security? And you also talked about some of the opportunity that you're pursuing in federal as well.

Brittany Bagley

executive
#45

Yes. Yes. I think federal is a big opportunity for us. I would say that adjacent market like justice. So if you think about the fact that video plays a pretty critical role in evidence and cases. So enabling the attorneys and the Justice Departments to have access to that. We just signed a really big deal with San Bernardino in California. That's a very big County in California with a big justice department. So we're seeing real traction and real value to customers using it from a justice standpoint. And then, yes, to private security, yes to hospital security, stadiums, a lot of those adjacent opportunities where you have some kind of security as a good opportunity for us.

Michael Ng

analyst
#46

Great. Well, we're a little bit over. So I want to take this time and say thank you for all your thoughts and insights. This is fantastic.

Brittany Bagley

executive
#47

Well, thank you very much for having me.

Michael Ng

analyst
#48

Thank you, Brittany.

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