Axsome Therapeutics, Inc. (AXSM) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
September 17, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Vikram Purohit
analystGreat. Welcome, everyone. Let's go ahead and get started. So this is the fireside chat with Axsome Therapeutics. My name is Vikram Purohit. I'm one of the biotech analysts at Morgan Stanley. Before we get into our Q&A, I need to read a brief disclosure statement. Please note that this webcast is for Morgan Stanley's clients and appropriate Morgan Stanley employees only. This webcast is not for members of the press. If you are a member of the press, please disconnect and reach out separately. For important disclosures, please see the Morgan Stanley Research Disclosure website at www.morganstanley.com/researchdisclosures. If you have any questions, please reach out to your Morgan Stanley sales representative. With that, let's kick it off. Happy to have with me Herriot Tabuteau, CEO of Axsome. Herriot, welcome.
Herriot Tabuteau
executiveThank you, and thanks for having us, Vikram.
Vikram Purohit
analystNo problem. Thank you for joining. Perhaps, Herriot, the best place to start, just to level set for everyone is if you could just start off with a brief overview of the company's platform and quickly touch on some of the key highlights from the late-stage data that's been generated by your pipelines recently. And then we'll get into product-specific Q&A.
Herriot Tabuteau
executiveSure. So if you look at Axsome's pipeline, I think it's focused on CNS disorders. The reason why the company was founded was to try and address the unmet medical needs around CNS diseases. The industry, as a whole, larger pharma had started to move and maybe -- even now currently continues to move away from developing drugs for CNS disorders, psychiatry, in particular. And one of the reasons for that is there are challenges in developing drugs in CNS. And -- but unfortunately, that's where the clinical need is. So there are a lot of diseases currently for which there are no approved treatment, even though they're common. And even for those conditions where there are approved treatments, you do have a lot of treatment failures. And so there's this unmet medical need there. Now that was the rationale behind the founding of the company and behind the therapeutic area that we chose to pursue. Now what we're interested in at Axsome is developing drugs for these disorders and making sure that the therapies are differentiated. One of the things that we're interested in are mechanisms of action. So novel mechanisms of action, hopefully, will yield novel clinical responses and clinical benefit. So for example, with our AXS-05 product candidate, it is an oral NMDA receptor antagonist, which is a different mechanism of actions with the drugs that are currently approved for depression, which were primarily via the monoamine pathway. So we wanted to make -- we wanted to -- our hypothesis was that if you could target the glutamatergic system, then maybe you'd have better responses in patients who currently are not responding to the monoamine drugs. And right now, about 2/3 of patients don't respond to those therapies. Similarly with our AXS-07 product candidate, the clinical need there is for drugs that are more efficacious in migraine. And the way that we sought to go about that was to develop a multi-mechanistic treatment for migraine. And so one of the mechanisms of actions, for example, of AXS-07 has been shown to work in patients who have central sensitization, which is manifested clinically as allodynia in these patients, which makes migraine pain harder to treat. And so that's the idea behind the platforms and the ways that we've chosen to approach these disorders. On just our -- one of our other product candidates is AXS-12 for narcolepsy. And what it is? It is reboxetine. It's a highly selective and potent norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor. And what we observed in animal studies was that, that specificity provided a very strong signal in cataplexy. And so then -- we, of course, then tested that hypothesis and can go into the clinical data. So that's really what we're interested in. We're interested in the diseases themselves, novel mechanisms of action and ways to develop differentiated therapies that will address the needs of patients and clinicians.
Vikram Purohit
analystGreat. Thank you for the overview. Let's go back to your 2 lead programs. AXS-05 for MDD, AXS-07 for migraine, you are expected to be submitting NDAs for both of those programs in the fourth quarter. Could you just kind of walk us through where those programs currently stand? And what are the boxes left to check before those submissions can successfully take place?
Herriot Tabuteau
executiveSo for AXS-05, one of the -- and actually for both product candidates, one of the boxes that remains to be checked, and we were on track to check, has to do with the patient safety database that is required. Now the FDA is viewing both of these product candidates as new drugs. And so therefore, they're requiring that we fulfill the ICH guidelines for patient exposure. So -- and those guidelines for those who don't know, it's at least 1,500 patients that we treated overall in the product candidate, 300 patients have to be treated for at least 6 months and 100 patients -- at least 100 patients had to be treated or exposed to the drug for at least 1 year. And so clearly, the -- those numbers mean that we need to reach them, and so there is a rate determining, but we're on track. We're on track to complete our long-term safety studies for both AXS-05 and AXS-07 leading to the NDA filings. The other boxes that are left to check have to do with clinical pharmacology. And simply put, clinical pharmacology studies are typically or mostly pharmacokinetic trials in special populations, for example, which need to be completed because they need to be included as part of the package. So I'd say that those are the major boxes that need to be checked on the CMC side of things. Then you also need to produce stability data on registration batches of drug. And so all those -- all of that is underway and puts us on track to us to file our NDA around year-end.
Vikram Purohit
analystUnderstood. And for your MDD long-term safety study, you mentioned recently that you're going to be conducting 3 efficacy-focused sub-studies from within that long-term safety trial. Could you walk us through the rationale for conducting those sub-studies? What the populations are you'll be looking at there? And whether these data are going to be included in the NDA submission in the fourth quarter for the broader MDD profile?
Herriot Tabuteau
executiveSo the rationale behind conducting those sub-studies is to generate data that can be shared with clinicians, and that will be important to patients across the spectrum of major depressive disorder. And so that's the rationale. This is the new mechanism of action and so -- and a new therapy. So physicians, we think, will find it useful to have data generated in patients that they are likely to see. So who are those patients? So you have -- so a patient who has a major depressive disorder, who goes to see a physician, that patient may have been on another antidepressant, only currently on an antidepressant. And that would be a common situation because we do know that around 2/3 of patients fail frontline treatment. So -- and that patient population, we term antidepressant unresponsive, or AU. So they failed or they currently have symptoms with -- while on one current antidepressant. A patient may have, for example, then been on 2 antidepressants -- 2 different antidepressants during the current major depressive episode. So that's another segment of patients. And we loosely call that TRD in the COMET studies. And then you may have patients who are totally naive, so incident patients. And then you may have patients who have suicidal ideations with active suicidal ideation. Now that segment of patients are typically not included in clinical trials. They're excluded. But in the common study, we do have some of those patients. So what we did was we prospectively defined those subgroups so -- and designated sub-studies to prospectively measure efficacy with AXS-05 in those patient populations. So those are the common AU trial or antidepressant unresponsive group, the COMET-TRD trial and the COMET-SI for suicidal ideation study -- sub-studies.
Vikram Purohit
analystUnderstood. And going back to TRD then, you also mentioned recently that you're going to be conducting a Phase II study, solely focused on TRD. Could you walk us through the basic design of that study, again, the rationale for evaluating AXS-05 in that population? And assuming that data is positive, what you think the path forward is going to be for approval with a label focused on TRD?
Herriot Tabuteau
executiveSo the COMET-TRD study is a randomized withdrawal design, okay? And what that means is we're taking patients who have been given AXS-05 and who failed or have been on 2 prior antidepressant treatments. And we're taking those patients who want to experience a remission and for whom that remission is stable. So stable remission. And then we're randomly assigning them to continue on AXS-05 or to be switched to a placebo. This will be a small study, admittedly, and it's not powered for statistical significance. However, we think that it would provide very useful information to patients. I'm sorry to -- well, to patients, of course, but to clinicians. The rationale behind the MERIT study in TRD, which is the study that we just discussed as well as the COMET sub-studies, including the COMET-TRD trial, is to generate data and information for clinicians ahead of our expected launch. Should we be successful in filing our NDA more times and also in receiving priority review, a 6-month review, from the FDA, and should the product be approved, we could be in a position to be launching this therapy around midyear next year. And so between that time, our goal is to generate as much information as possible that will be useful to clinicians. So that the MERIT trial in TRD is not designed as a registration trial. Now, of course, everything is up for negotiation, should the study work. But it is not being designed as a registration trial, and it will be a small study. With regards to our approach in TRD, we generated some interesting data from our STRIDE-1 trial showing that the product does, in fact, have an effect in TRD, specifically at the early time points, so in week 1 and week 2. Those were key secondary endpoints, were separated statistically significantly. And even at week 6, although it didn't hit fiscal significance there, there was a pretty significant treatment effect. So the -- and then in addition to that, we'll be generating the data from the COMET-TRD study as well as on the MERIT trial. And so that will provide -- the goal is to provide clinicians with information on how AXS-05 works in that subsegment of MDD, because remember that the indication that we are filing the NDA for is MDD, which is very broad. It subsumes all of these different subsegments of MDD. So whether it be patients who are on one current antidepressant or in the current major depressive episode 2 antidepressants, some of whom may then be labeled TRD or with suicidal ideation.
Vikram Purohit
analystOkay. That's helpful. Maybe with that, let's pivot over to AXS-07 for migraine. Just to start off with, what has the performance of the oral CGRP so far told you about the commercial potential of the migraine market and where potentially AXS-07 could fit in as competition in the market starts to build?
Herriot Tabuteau
executiveSo the -- there have been -- as you mentioned, all of these recent launches, right? As there have been launches on the preventative side of things. So these are the CGRP receptor antagonists and that have been -- that are delivered intravenously, so the antibodies. And then you also have the oral CGRPs, which target the acute treatment of migraine. So with all these new entrants on what that has done is it shed light on how debilitating this disorder is. As a reminder, the World Health Organization categorizes a severe migraine attack as debilitating as quadriplegia. So it's -- so for those who don't have -- who don't experience migraines, I think maybe that's a little hard to understand. But for those who do, the -- it will make perfect sense that during an attack you're totally debilitated. And this is a disorder, which really affects patients and affects things such as employment. So that's the market, and there's been a lot of attention focused on migraine as a result, which we think is very helpful for any new entrant, including AXS-05. Now where does it fit? Now AXS-05 is designed to address the unmet need, which is efficacy. And if you survey patients as clinicians, then you -- in terms of where is the unmet need? It always comes back to efficacy overwhelmingly. And so regardless of whether a patient is on a preventative treatment, they will -- or they are not on a preventative treatment, they will always need acute treatment, which is where AXS-07 fits in. And what we know about the new entrants, the oral CGRPs, is that they have not shown efficacy, which is better than the current standard of care, which is better than triptans. And so they may have other benefits, but it's not with regards to efficacy. So there is still this unmet need for more efficacious treatments. And that's where AXS-07 fits in. So it is a different segment of the market. And it's also one where I think we're well positioned to exploit because the design of our efficacy trial did include an active comparator. So it included rizatriptan, which is considered to be legal standard or one of the gold standards of acute migraine treatment, is considered to be the fastest-acting triptan and the most potent one. And we've demonstrated on multiple measures that it is superior in difficult-to-treat patient population.
Vikram Purohit
analystOkay. Helpful color. And for both AXS-05 and AXS-07, I wanted to touch on IP as a platform consideration. So I guess 2 questions there from my side. One, could you speak about generally what kind of IP hold for both of these molecules? And secondly, given both of these therapies do combine agents that are available in generic form, do you foresee any challenges in being able to defend your IP estate in the coming years?
Herriot Tabuteau
executiveSo we have a very broad and deep IP portfolio as it relates to AXS-05 and AXS-07. So intellectual property has been a focus of the company since we founded it. And that's reflected in the fact that for AXS-05 -- just AXS-05, we had at least 45 issued patents, U.S. and international, mostly U.S., which go out to 2034. And the initial focus of the patent portfolio for AXS-05 was around pharmacokinetics because that's what the drug does. And you're right, these are 2 existing molecules. However, it is not a simple putting them together approach because we're using one molecule as a drug delivery vehicle for the other. If these 2 molecules are not given in the right way, and if there are compliance issues with one not being taken at the right time, guess what, then you don't have the therapy. So the dextromethorphan has this peculiarity, which is that the vast majority of human beings rapidly metabolize it. So when it is taken as a single agent, actually, you're not taking dextromethorphan, what you're being exposed to is the metabolite dextrorphan. So with AXS-05, the innovation there is to make the dextromethorphan available, and therefore, to unlock the NMDA receptor antagonist mechanism of action. Now -- and so for that reason, the IP estate is actually focused on pharmacokinetics. One of the benefits of pharmacokinetics patents is that it's impossible to get around them by changing the formulation and also they're agnostic to indication. From that perspective, they are the closest thing that you can get to a new chemical entity patent. Now since then, though, what have we done? We actually tested our hypothesis, and we've generated clinical data, which has been really compelling in depression as well as in Alzheimer's disease agitation and also in smoking cessation. That has allowed us to prosecute a new family of patents. And these are more a standard or a more traditional method of treating a disease pattern. And we mentioned a while back that we were pursuing that strategy, and that has started to actually bear fruit. So we've now gotten notices of allowance on some -- on several patents, which are -- which have no pharmacokinetic element, which are a standard -- which are more standard method of -- method treating depression with AXS-05. And that's based upon the positive data that we generated in our clinical trials. So we're broadening the IP estate as well as deepening it. In addition, at least one of those new patents actually goes out to 2040. So we're also extending the term and the runway during which we can continue to generate value. So we will continue to take that approach further by prosecuting additional families of patents around AXS-05. And so we think we'll be in a very strong position. Our patents currently are -- we feel are very strong. But we're not relying just on their strength, but we're making sure that we constantly bolster the portfolio by broadening the types of patents that we have. The similar approach has been taken with AXS-07. And so with AXS-07, similarly, we have now 44 issued patents in both the U.S. as well as internationally. And those patents go out to 2036, providing a very long runway. Patents for AXS-07 focus around the MoSEIC technology, which is what is used to allow for the rapid absorption of meloxicam component of AXS-07, which increases efficacy, and importantly, has a -- maintains a really long half-life to reduce symptom recurrence. So that's a summary of our IP approach.
Vikram Purohit
analystGot it. Helpful. Maybe in the couple of minutes we have remaining, let's touch on the earlier stage pipeline. So I believe you have a couple of meetings with the FDA scheduled for later part of this year. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you mentioned you have meetings for AXS-05 in smoking cessation, AXS-12 in narcolepsy and AXS-14 for fibromyalgia. So it'd be great to hear just kind of what the status is of those meetings. And what you hope to learn for each program from interactions with the agency?
Herriot Tabuteau
executiveSo starting with AXS-12. So AXS-12, we recently announced Breakthrough Therapy Designation was granted by the FDA for AXS-12 in narcolepsy. So we're really excited by the fact that we'll be having that focused attention from the agency in order to accelerate the development of that product to get it to patients. And with Breakthrough Therapy Designation comes a Breakthrough Therapy meeting with the FDA. And so that meeting is going to be important for us to finalize our development plan, which includes launching our Phase III program by year-end or around year-end. So once we've had that meeting and once we've gotten written confirmation from the FDA on the outcomes of that meeting, we will update the Street. And just as a reminder, in our Phase II trial, we did demonstrate very strong data with regards to improvements in cataplexy as well as excessive daytime sleepiness. And we also measured changes in cognition. And all those parameters were positive with AXS-12. With regards to AXS-14, which is esreboxetine in fibromyalgia, we did announce that the FDA meeting for that product candidate will now take place in the first quarter. Up until now, we have not been impacted in terms of FDA interactions by COVID, but this is one -- in one situation in one division, where we were impacted. And so that meeting will occur later than we had wanted it to occur. But in the first quarter, we will have a meeting to discuss the clinical data that has been generated thus far for AXS-14 in fibromyalgia. As a reminder, those include 2 studies which were conducted by Pfizer, one Phase III and one Phase II, both of which hit their primary endpoints and both -- so they are -- these are positive studies in an indication where currently there are only 3 approved treatments, very underserved. And so we're looking forward to meeting with the FDA discussing those data and nailing down the path forward to get that product approved. And lastly, for smoking cessation, the next steps with that program is an FDA meeting as you suggested. And so the goal was to have that meeting by year-end. The -- so let's just stay tuned with regards to the exact timing of that meeting. The division for smoking cessation is the same division as it turns out for fibromyalgia. And so we know that, that division is backed up right now somewhat with work. So that's where we are. So those are the upcoming interactions with the rest of the pipeline.
Vikram Purohit
analystGreat. And we have got a minute left. Maybe this is a good opportunity for kind of summarize current cash balance, what kind of runway that provides? And also maybe touch on any catalysts through the end of the year or for 2021 that we already haven't touched on through our previous discussion of the new programs?
Herriot Tabuteau
executiveSo we got a very strong cash position currently, which provides us at least 2 years of cash. And included in that forecast are our launch plans for AXS-05 and AXS-07 as well as the clinical studies, which we discussed. So we're in the best -- we're in the strongest cash position that we've ever been in. And right now, I'd say our focus, apart from what we discussed in terms of NDA filings and also making sure that we move the rest of the pipeline forward. It's -- what we're also focused on right now is, frankly, launch readiness. So we want to be ready to hit the ground running and assuming that we do have a favorable outcome from the FDA with our NDA filings. I think we have touched upon all the important upcoming clinical milestones between now and next year. And just to summarize, those include our NDA filings for 2 lead product candidates around year-end. Those include launching Phase III programs. We did not talk a ton about Alzheimer's disease agitation with AXS-05. And so we did get Breakthrough Therapy Designation for that indication from the FDA. We did have a Breakthrough meeting, and we're on track to launch that Phase III trial by the end of this year. We already have one positive pivotal trial, so we just need one more study. So that's something else to watch out for that we did not discuss a ton.
Vikram Purohit
analystGreat. And I think, Herriot, with that, we're out of time. Thank you very much for being here. Appreciate your time. And everyone in the audience, thank you for joining. With that, we'll sign off. Thanks, Herriot.
Herriot Tabuteau
executiveThank you.
Vikram Purohit
analystBye-bye.
Herriot Tabuteau
executiveBye.
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