Becton, Dickinson and Company (BDX) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

November 18, 2020

New York Stock Exchange US Health Care Health Care Equipment and Supplies conference_presentation 31 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Raj Denhoy

analyst
#1

Thanks, everyone, again for joining us here at the Jefferies 2020 Virtual London Healthcare Conference. I'm Raj Denhoy with the medical device research team. Along with me today, we have Anthony Petrone and Brandon Couillard also from Jefferies. And our next presentation is from Becton, Dickinson. And from the company, we have Tom Polen, the company's CEO; Chris Reidy, the company's CFO. And we also have Kristen Stewart. And I think Kristen is going to start us off with a brief statement, and then we'll get into Q&A.

Kristen Stewart

executive
#2

Thanks, everyone, for joining us. Just as a reminder, today's discussion may make some forward-looking statements. It is possible that actual results could differ from our expectations. In particular, there continues to be uncertainty about the duration and contemplated impact of the COVID-19 pandemic. Risks, uncertainties and other factors that could cause such differences can be found in our recent SEC filings, including our 2019 Form 10-K and subsequent Forms 10-Q. These statements that are made in today's presentations are made as of the date of the event. BD undertakes no responsibility to update any such statements to reflect these events or uncertainties occurring after today's date. With all that said, I'm going to turn it back over to you, Raj.

Raj Denhoy

analyst
#3

Great. Thanks, Kristen. So Tom, maybe we could just start at a very high level before we get into some of the detailed stuff. But it's your first year as CEO. It's been a very eventful year to say the least, the Alaris ship hold, COVID, testing coming up. Lots and lots to talk about. But maybe just some high-level thoughts you want to offer in terms of your first year on the job as CEO.

Thomas Polen

executive
#4

Sure. And I think that term eventful is certainly a fair term. So if you step back, the first time I actually had a chance to share my vision and strategy for the company was at JPMorgan a couple of weeks before I took over as CEO. That was the first time we began talking about the BD 2025 strategy. Of course, then a few weeks later, I took over as CEO at the very, very end of January. And by the end of that first kind of full week, we had shared the Alaris news, though certainly not what everyone would have wanted to be sharing in my first week as CEO. And that became the #1 priority, of -- resolving and remediating Alaris, getting the 510(k) and getting that fully back on the market. And we can talk about that later, but that remains very much on track with what we've been talking about. Of course, then there is a global pandemic, significant changes in patient volumes in hospitals, procedure volumes in particular. And so we've been navigating through that. Now with that said, really I could not be more pleased with the progress that we've made as an organization over the last 9 months. We've certainly rose to the occasion at BD where we had a huge role in combating COVID, whether or not it was bioscience instruments on the front line, understanding why it impacts the immune system the way it does, helping the world set up ICUs to care for patients with infusion pump platforms or whether or not in Europe or the U.S. or other geographies, ramping up production there, creating new diagnostic tests in record time for us and having now a significant role in both the molecular and of course, the antigen testing and scaling there. And now of course, what we've been scaling, what is already a very -- we run our manufacturing quite lean and efficient, but we're finding ways to make an additional 1 billion units from our current capital to further supply and help the world deliver mass vaccination campaigns. And of course, we are adding more capacity to that as well. Of course, at the same time, when I did take over, the company was being run on about 2 weeks' worth of cash, is all we had on the balance sheet as a company, have been focusing on debt pay down. And so we had some difficult decisions to make, and that included doing an equity raise to shore up that balance sheet. I think that was the right decision at that time. And we go in now, as we think about a resurgence and the years ahead, in a much stronger position. The whole time, we've also been very systematically executing our BD 2025 strategy. Obviously, as we've been focused on getting Alaris remediated and focusing on COVID diagnostics and vaccination campaigns and scaling up ICUs, I haven't had as much time to talk about our vision and strategy over the last 9 months as I would have liked to in the beginning, that it wasn't the right thing to do. But you've probably heard over the last month. You can expect to hear more. And eventually, we will have an Analyst Day when that time comes in this fiscal year for sure to get deeper into that because we've been very systematically going through making decisions around our portfolio prioritization, reprioritizing our organic portfolio. We've positioned ourself with the equity raise and actions we've taken to strengthen our balance sheet through improving focus on cash to be able to invest more in tuck-in M&A, right, over the years ahead; invest more in R&D. You've seen us start to increase R&D 8% last quarter. Expect continued growth in R&D at levels that are beyond what you had seen over the last couple of years as part of our growth strategy. And you've seen us announce Project Recode and proceed executing that quite well. That's very much on track despite the pandemic. So I think as we look right now and while the world is facing another resurgence of COVID-19, what I could say is that I feel very differently than I did at this time in March, not that long after I had come in. At that point, BD and most companies were going on the defense, thinking how they're going to manage through that. But again, thanks to the actions that we've taken over that period of time, I'd say we're now very much on the offense on that, right? As an organization, we're charting our own course forward for the next several years, and we're deciding where to place our investments to ensure long-term durable growth. We have offsets. Even if procedure volumes can come down, there's a natural hedge with Veritor and BD MAX and, of course, vaccination solutions now on the table that weren't there this time in the last resurgence. So we feel good about where we are. We feel good about the progress and look forward to talking more about our strategy.

Raj Denhoy

analyst
#5

Great, great. Maybe before we get to some of the specifics on testing and the business and things, there was also some news yesterday of a management change. Patrick Kaltenbach, President of Life Sciences, is leaving. John DeFord is sticking around though a bit longer. So maybe is there anything you want to share in terms of that change and what's happening?

Thomas Polen

executive
#6

Sure. I always try to talk John into staying longer. This wasn't the tactic I was planning on using, but we can't be happier to have John staying on for a couple of other quarters. So no, nothing more than what we shared in the 8-K. It's a personal decision for Patrick. It's been tough for him with his entire family and kids in Europe, unable to see them, obviously, because of COVID travel restrictions. I think it's important for them to get back. He's got a good opportunity he's going to go after there. He had approached me about interest in the CPO role to start, so we'll just refocus on John's backfill as we think about that going forward. We've got time. And we've got a really strong leader coming into life sciences in Dave Hickey, who's been leading -- all of BD's COVID response on the diagnostic side has been led by Dave. And we're really excited to have him there. So we won't miss a beat, full steam ahead. And we're excited about the leaders we've got in place.

Raj Denhoy

analyst
#7

Very good. So maybe we could just dive right into the COVID testing. So clearly, a massive headwind -- excuse me, tailwind for you and others. This year, you gave guidance, $1 billion to $1.5 billion for Veritor and another $400 million for BD MAX. But if you think about where testing has gone even over the last few weeks, we're up to about 1.6 million tests today, and that's just on the PCR side. What do you think about those numbers currently, right? Is there potential upside there? And how does your ability to add capacity factor into that?

Thomas Polen

executive
#8

Yes. So we feel good about those numbers. Of course, we just gave them a couple of weeks ago. We feel the $1 billion, $1.5 billion certainly are the right numbers. And capacity, particularly in the first half of the year, does dictate how much opportunity there is above those numbers. So as we have shared, we've got the 8 million tests per month really through the first quarter that -- if you just do the math with that $20 ASP, that's kind of a first quarter in that 480 range based on capacity. And then the second quarter we said we'll get another tranche of capacity, going to up to 12 million tests a month in March. So that's at the very end of Q2. So I think the real question becomes, right, the durability of testing in the back half of the year, and that's something that we just don't have visibility to. That's why we didn't think it was prudent to over-forecast what's going to happen that far out with timing of vaccines. As we all know, that changes on a daily basis. I think there were some more positive news on that this morning around performance of the Pfizer vaccine. So we'll see where that goes. That could create an opportunity in the back half if testing were to stay elevated, but that's still to be determined. A number of different factors can influence that.

Raj Denhoy

analyst
#9

Right, right. It's, I think, an important question though. And I know you don't really want to go there too deeply right now, but as you think about the back end of this, right, the tail on testing, what are your current thoughts at a very high level? I know you don't want to give specifics about how long testing can last and what that downturn is going to look like or that downward slope. Is it dramatic call-off post vaccines. Or do you think we'll see something more gradual?

Thomas Polen

executive
#10

Yes. I think we've shared this on the last earnings call, obviously, a couple of weeks ago, which is that, at this point versus if I look back a quarter ago, definitely have more confidence there will still be some level of testing in '22. That wasn't as clear if you step back a couple of months. I'd say just the fact that we know that the pandemic is going to be continuing, unfortunately, into the winter into '21. We all see the data around willingness to get a vaccine. Obviously, even once a vaccine becomes available, it's not as though everyone is going to be able to be immunized in a bolus. And there's quite a large portion of the population who's not willing to be immunized given, I mean, a vaccine at this point in time. So I think all of that fares into how long testing will continue into '22. I think some of the nontraditional uses for the tests as well, whether or not they're antigen or PCR testing as you think about airports, cruise lines, et cetera, utilizing testing for screening and to opening up the economy, and we have people using our technology certainly in those applications, those will create -- again, as you've got a variation in who's getting immunized, once you start that, the question of when you stop it is a pretty tricky question, right? When do you stop doing that? When do people say, "Okay, we're used to getting tested going on to a plane. Now it's -- we're comfortable to stop that?" I think that creates a further tail that probably goes into '22 as well. The extent of how big that number is going into '22, I don't think anyone knows the answer to that. But the likelihood that there is some continued testing, I think, is certainly higher than it was a couple of quarters ago.

Raj Denhoy

analyst
#11

I'd feel a bit [ rinsed ] if I didn't ask about this, but there was some interesting tweets from Elon Musk a couple of days ago relative to your test in particular. I'm not sure if there's anything you want to comment on that, but it did catch some people's attention.

Thomas Polen

executive
#12

Yes. Happy to comment on that. We -- obviously, the Veritor test worked exactly as it was planned in terms of it delivered a positive result in 15 minutes for asymptomatic patient. And if you look at the CDC guidelines, they specify that if asymptomatic patient receives a positive result from an antigen test, they should immediately isolate and seek guidance from their health care provider. That's our claim. The first test that was run, it is definitive from that perspective and appropriately diagnosed Mr. Musk in about 2 days before a PCR test was able to. So I think that's all we'd say. We're very confident in the performance of our test.

Anthony Petrone

analyst
#13

Tom, just one quick question to follow up on testing here. As the first round of vaccines sort of roll through, do you think there'll be a one-for-one test on the vaccines? And so the vaccine companies have talked about 2.5 billion units being available in the first round by mid-2021. And so I think it strikes us that there should -- could be some level of testing even with the first round of vaccine rollout. So just maybe some quick thoughts there.

Thomas Polen

executive
#14

In terms of just antigen and molecular testing?

Anthony Petrone

analyst
#15

Yes, correct. In other words, if you receive a vaccine, will you have to be tested post getting the vaccine just to make sure you haven't -- you're not sick?

Thomas Polen

executive
#16

Yes. I haven't heard specifically how much the role that testing will play for -- obviously, there's been discussions around the antibody testing, which we're not -- that's not a focus of ours. The role of actually detecting the virus post vaccination, that's an area that's still to play out.

Raj Denhoy

analyst
#17

So maybe we could segue a bit away from testing to the base -- the rest of the business. And I know you get asked this a lot. I think you were just even asked 2 days ago about how the base business is faring. You just reported a couple of days before that. But obviously, with COVID surging around the world, have you seen anything at this point you want to call out? Or is there any change in tone in procedure volumes or anything you're hearing from the market this time?

Thomas Polen

executive
#18

We just shared our guidance for the year a couple of weeks ago, so no updates there. But let me turn it over to Chris.

Christopher Reidy

executive
#19

So I would just address, Raj, your question around the base business. And as we looked at last year, we came in at flat for the year in revenue growth. And if you peel that back a little bit, there's 2 major items there. There was the COVID headwinds, which was about 670 basis points of headwind. And that was offset by the COVID testing, Veritor and MAX, a few other things or benefits that we got from COVID of about 340. So if you net those, there was about 330 basis point drag. On top of that, we had the tough compare for Alaris because of the ship hold, and that was another 200-plus points. So if you just add back that COVID piece and the Alaris piece, we're up in that mid-single digits. That's why we're very confident that, that base business is, on an underlying basis, still very strong. And we gave a little bit of an indication as to how we feel about '22, saying that we expect that base business to grow mid-single digits in '22. And then on top of that, if Alaris comes back, that would be on top of the mid-single digits depending on when in the year it comes back, and that's hard to predict. So we want to give some sense of the strength of the base business. Obviously, the other point of '22 is the question you raised, which is how much Veritor and COVID-related testing will be. But you have to step back and think about the fact it's very difficult to give guidance in this period for a year anyway. We did that -- we felt comfortable doing that because we do have that natural hedge of Veritor. And we did say, as a reminder, that we're not expecting any major shutdowns, and our guidance doesn't contemplate that. But we also said that the hospital systems are responding well to the resurgences, much better prepared than they were back last year. And so we'll monitor that. But we do feel good about the fact that we have a more natural hedge this year with the COVID-related testing.

Raj Denhoy

analyst
#20

Maybe that's kind of a segue to the kind of the core, right, of the question right now around BD and the outlook, right? So is '22 the right year to think about normalization in a sense that you'll -- that will be the year when COVID testing is likely coming down, right and Alaris is probably coming up? You're going to have interesting comp from this year. Should one really think about maybe 2023, the year beyond that, when things truly normalize and we get back to that 5% top line growth that you've outlined?

Christopher Reidy

executive
#21

Well, I think that's fair to some point. Obviously, we will have more than that this year. And -- but we know that that's because of the bolus of the COVID-related testing. So -- and you're right, '22 -- we want to talk about the base business in '22 because I think that's a good indicator. But then you have what level of testing do you have and when does Alaris come back. So you still got some noise in the channel from that. So it will take -- looking at that base business, as we're trying to point out. But then you would expect that '23 would be a more normal year, assuming things continue to go as they are now.

Thomas Polen

executive
#22

But Raj, what we have said and what we absolutely continue to feel very good about, as I said, of course, this year, as Chris mentioned, it is -- we're going to be much higher than that range based on the guidance we've given, right? Our guidance we've given this year is 20% plus, the EPS growth. That's 2x that formula that we had talked about. As we think about '22, we feel good about the underlying core business, growing those mid-single digits, right? And I think the key question is not the core for us. We feel good about that in '22. It's again what's the slope of the Veritor? And that's really the factor there. So we feel good about that mid-single digit, plus Alaris come back on top of that in '22. And then it's really Veritor becomes the question, which is just too early to understand that. And again, we've been making -- as you can see, we've been making investments not only in innovation organically. We're reinvesting through our growth in innovation fund, but also through the Veritor proceeds. We're reinvesting not only in innovation but also in commercial activities that will help drive growth as we think about the future. And we've talked about we did 6 tuck-ins in '20, which was -- even in a challenging year, it was a focus of ours in our BD 2025 strategy. That's actually the most tuck-ins we have done in the last 10 years. And we've got strong momentum in our funnel coming in. Even last week, we announced the first deal of FY '20 (sic) [ FY '21 ] in just the first couple of weeks of the year within a high-growth space, the non-acute medication management, which is very nice complement to our Pyxis business but in a sector that's growing much faster even than the hospital space and leverages our assets and capabilities really nicely there. And so all of those help us, right? That's part of our growth formula. It's part of our strategy. And so we feel good about the momentum in that.

Raj Denhoy

analyst
#23

Right, right. Before we get to some of those longer-term things we do definitely want to unpack as well, just on Alaris quickly. As you think about -- I mean, obviously, the regulatory has to play itself out. But when you think about how you manage the business in this period of time and maybe trying to prevent share erosion to your competitors, what are you doing in the sense so that when you get back to market, you won't be in a kind of compromised position with that product?

Thomas Polen

executive
#24

You can imagine, obviously, we've got a very strong team and deep customer relationships, right? More than 70% of U.S. hospitals have very purposely chosen our platform for the value that it delivers to patients. So first off, it's a hard time to be selling a pump in the middle of a pandemic. As you can imagine, it's a very significant endeavor to change out pumps. It's probably one of the #1 things that nurses use. And it requires people to be taken offline for pretty significant training, risks of medication errors, et cetera, when they're going to a new technology. So I think just the timing is a challenge from customers that are interested in "Let's just manage our way through the pandemic." And they recognize and we stand behind the safety of our product for Alaris. And of course, we continue to ship under medical necessity, as needed. As we have shared in the past, over 1,000 hospitals in -- added to their fleet under medical necessity in FY '20 to help battle COVID-19. Obviously, as we think about a resurgence here, people may continue to add to their fleets under medical necessity. We'll continue to support our customers and all the work that they do to serve their patients. So we're focused right now on getting that 510(k) submitted in the time line that we mentioned, Q2, early Q3 and moving forward from that.

Raj Denhoy

analyst
#25

Good. Well, maybe we can talk a little bit about some of the longer-term trends, which I think you're trying to better put some meat around. So you mentioned a couple of times about expanding R&D spending or extending it -- or increasing it, I should say. Are there areas you're thinking about increasing investment in? When one thinks back to BD over the years, even Bard, to some degree, it's been a company of kind of singles and doubles. Are you thinking about trying to do bigger things now with R&D? Or is it still kind of more in that same line?

Thomas Polen

executive
#26

I'd say so very much still a company of singles and doubles. That's part of our -- it's one of our strengths. It certainly could be a challenge, I understand, to get your arms around BD because there's no one big product that we rely on. Veritor is certainly an example of a grand slam perhaps, but -- and there's others in the molecular space, but mostly singles, doubles. We've got some triples and others I'd call BD COR. And what we're doing in HPV certainly is a larger one. There's a few others. But to your question of are there some specific spaces that we're focused on, the answer there is absolutely yes. As I came into the role, we actually took time as an organization to very systematically go through all the markets that we play in today as well as very systematically look at all of our adjacent spaces. And we made very purposeful decisions in terms of bucket-izing. Here are the spaces that we believe we can create disproportionate competitive advantage that are growing at a faster rate than our base business and that we think long-term health care trends are going to continue to support that growth for many years ahead. And then we said these are markets we want to maintain our position in, and these are ones that we're comfortable with de-investing and thinking differently about. And so we've been very systematically and significantly reallocating our R&D portfolio along those lines. We've also aligned our inorganic where we focused along those lines. And so there's a few trends that support kind of those key spaces, as you can imagine, certain areas in oncology, interventional oncology; dialysis, our capabilities that we have in there, dialysis access specifically, right, end-stage renal disease, the work we do there; peripheral vascular disease. You've seen us make investments, for example, with thrombectomy. Atherectomy was a result of wanting to continue our focus there. Molecular diagnostics with our BD COR platform, you also saw us mid last year acquire a molecular point-of-care platform, good timing. We did that before COVID, would have cost us a lot more probably in a post-COVID world, but we're excited about that. It's a great platform. It will kind of be the molecular version of Veritor but continuing the move there. And then the other key theme you see us heading towards is continuing to create solutions for the non-acute setting. And so again, whether or not it's point-of-care diagnostics, investments that we've been making even in our urology critical care business, right? We're taking urine management, which has been always in the hospital with PureWick and our new DryDoc platform. We've been taking that incontinence management all the way to the home. We have a home care business that's been growing nicely there as well. Our recent acquisition in medication management that we just announced last week, again, moving outside of the hospital into long-term care, which has a cloud-based informatics solution, so extending our strength in informatics from that centralized point into the non-acute setting. A couple of key themes. All of those though, of course, you can see that we're focusing on those higher growth spaces that fit with durable health care trends and where we have strengths that are very obvious that we're leveraging into those marketplaces.

Raj Denhoy

analyst
#27

I think one of the things you've given in terms of some of the broad brushstrokes on 2025, your outlook there is kind of move away from the acute care setting, right, to try and get into some other spaces. How do you think about that though kind of broadly speaking? Is that primarily through things you've described? Do you imagine that there could be some divestitures, some larger acquisitions? The way you've described it, again, is sort of very much keeping in how BD has done it for a lot of years. But are there shifts in strategy, you think, as you move towards that 2025 plan?

Thomas Polen

executive
#28

Yes. And I wouldn't say walking away. Obviously, we have a tremendous presence in acute care, and we're not going to change that element. We're still going to be -- that's a huge customer base of ours, and there's a tremendous need still untapped there. But we are adding into -- of course, our customers are also shifting, right? Our large integrated delivery networks are managing much more holistically their patient populations that they serve, thinking about not only how their acute care centers play into that, but they're buying surgery centers, they're setting up ambulatory. So they're opening up retail clinics of their own to serve the patients from a walk-in care perspective. And so I really much more view that our solutions are helping to transform health care along that spectrum. Often which -- sometimes they're brand-new customers but oftentimes, it's helping our existing customers who are those long-standing acute care clients, helping them transform their organizations in a non-acute way and often connecting that through an informatics play, right? So our vision, for example, being able to offer non-acute medication management solutions that you'll be able to digitally understand your pharmacy and drug inventory levels across everything that someone may own, whether or not they're in a hospital or a long-term care facility or others, it's an integrated solution for our customers. So I really see it much more as additive than replacement.

Raj Denhoy

analyst
#29

Okay. Understood. Maybe, Chris, for you just -- a couple of minutes left here, but just in terms of the balance sheet, right? So you mentioned the equity raise earlier this year. How are you thinking about the capacity of the company to do some of the things that Tom's outlined and making these things possible? Do you have any specific metrics you're targeting in terms of where you want that to go?

Christopher Reidy

executive
#30

Sure. So that's one of the reasons, as we went into the uncertainty of the pandemic, that we shored up the balance sheet. With the equity raise, we had gotten to the point where we were getting down towards the 3x leverage, but we thought that the pandemic could set us back on that. And we wanted to give ourselves a bit of firepower going into this period. And so as Tom mentioned, we did 6 deals last year. As we look forward, we have the firepower to do those kind of deals. And I would point out, we've been very clear that we're not looking at any transformational deals. That's not in the cards for us. These are tuck-in acquisitions. We're looking at more of those kinds of things. And we have the capacity to go a little bit bigger on the tuck-in acquisitions but nothing transformative.

Thomas Polen

executive
#31

And Raj, in a very disciplined way as well, right? We're looking at accretive deals that really -- where there's clear leverage opportunities, often with existing sales channels. I really view it as -- it's an inorganic innovation because we are also adding in new product lines in those higher-growth spaces that fit with future health care trends, where we're leveraging our existing -- whether or not it's our channel investments that we have, right? The atherectomy, thrombectomy deal that we did, for example, is leveraging our existing asset base. Even this recent acquisition we announced yesterday is leveraging our existing call points that we already have in place very nicely. It's those types of things that we really see an opportunity for us going forward, supplementing kind of our organic pipeline with an inorganic pipeline.

Raj Denhoy

analyst
#32

Good. And maybe just a last topic of discussion here. As we mentioned, we're heading into the vaccine era, right, hopefully, in the next year. You're a contributor there in terms of syringes. I think people have largely concluded though that even if it's 1 billion syringes at $0.10 or $0.15, it's not enough to really move the needle given what Veritor and some other things are doing for you. Is that the right way to think about it? I mean is there any way that the vaccine delivery business could prove more meaningful for you?

Thomas Polen

executive
#33

We've committed -- the number that we've indicated, kind of that $100 million to $150 million is still the range that we feel comfortable with. As we mentioned, that's 1 billion syringes and ASP of around $0.15. No change in that at this point in time. We are adding capacity. We've announced that. We obviously had a partnership with the U.S. government and are adding capacity that will come in, in the back half of FY '21. And we are always looking at other ways to add. But right now, just to put it in perspective, right, the 1 billion additional syringes that we're making, that means we found a way to make an extra 2,000 syringes every minute of every hour of every day of every week for the next year incremental to the 7 billion syringes that we normally make. So it's -- 1 billion syringes is a lot, but we're continuing to look at obviously other ways. We understand there's going to be significant demand out there, but it would -- given the scale, I don't think it would be any upside opportunity that would move the needle from that.

Raj Denhoy

analyst
#34

Yes. I think it's a great place to end it. I think it's sometimes lost on us on the outside, the changes you guys have made to respond to this in such a short period of time. So it's commendable. So thanks again for the time. And hopefully, we'll chat again soon.

Thomas Polen

executive
#35

Okay. Thank you.

Christopher Reidy

executive
#36

Thanks.

Thomas Polen

executive
#37

Thanks.

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