Beonic Limited (BEO) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

February 3, 2020

ASX AU Information Technology Software earnings 39 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Skyfii Limited Quarterly Results Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Wayne Arthur, Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead.

Wayne Arthur

executive
#2

Good morning, and thank you all for making the time to join us today. Welcome to the financial year 2020 second quarter results presentation to Skyfii. I'm joined today by Skyfii's Chief Operating Officer, John Rankin; and our investor relations consultant, Heidi Lord. We're thrilled to present another strong quarter of growth, which has allowed us to deliver our strongest first half result to date. Key highlights for the quarter. The company delivered a 20% quarter-on-quarter revenue uplift versus Q1 of FY '20. We also drove recurring revenues up by 13% quarter-on-quarter and 94% when we compare to the previous calendar period, Q2 of FY '19. During the quarter, we welcomed a new institutional investor to our register through a placement of $2.25 million. And finally, we exited Q2 of FY '20 with an annualized recurring revenue rate of more than $10 million, which is up 11% on Q1. The business has begun to significantly expand its operations as we continue to scale for growth, and to demonstrate this, we welcomed 2 new senior members to our team, a Chief Marketing Officer and a Vice President of Channel and Strategic Alliances. Both are in global roles, and both are based in the North American market. We remain very excited about our growth trajectory, and with the Beonic acquisition now fully integrated and most importantly delivering revenue growth in its own right, we are confident in delivering continued growth in the coming quarters, following on from a strong platform delivered in the first half of FY '20. So moving to Slide 2. Our vision remains to improve visitor experience by understanding behavior, and we help our customers deliver value to their customers and in their operations through the application and use of data. This practice is called omnidata intelligence, and this category best defines our business offering since it refers to the practice of collecting, analyzing and actioning data from a multitude of datasets currently inherent within physical and digital spaces already today. We believe that for any of our current and prospective customers, the pathway to a successful data strategy requires a combination of 3 key elements: Number one is choosing the right data; number two, applying intelligent technology; and number three, utilizing experienced people, all 3 ingredients which Skyfii provides. On Slide 3. Our goal is to become the leading omnidata intelligence platform for physical venues globally by the end of FY '21, and we are well on track to achieve this goal. As a global technology company, we've invested the last 7 years in building software which transforms the way organizations collect, analyze and extract value from data. We process billions of data points every month from the physical and digital world to help businesses improve the experiences of millions of customers every day. Slide 4 is a reminder to shareholders. Here is a snapshot of the Skyfii business. Firstly, our revenues are made up of 3 necessary components: recurring revenues, nonrecurring revenues and revenues delivered through services. Our recurring revenue generated from the sale of our IO platform subscription services are typically contracted on 3- to 5-year contract terms. Monthly fees per venue can range from as little as $50 per month for quick-service restaurants through to $10,000 to $15,000 per month for an airport or stadium deployment. Data and marketing services, which are generated from our data science or marketing-related projects delivered through our data and marketing services teams, support our customers in delivering on their data and digital marketing objectives. And these revenues are both recurring and nonrecurring in nature. And finally, nonrecurring revenues, which are generally a part of every new contract rollout, are applied when we support our customers through the setup and implementation of our platform and sometimes the implementation of infrastructures such as wireless or people-counting devices, and these revenues are nonrecurring in nature. From a data point perspective, we collect data from a growing variety of data sources, which continues to provide new revenue opportunities for the business, particularly in this era of Internet of Things. In addition to WiFi data, our other data sources now include people-counting sensors, cameras, sales transaction data, live weather feeds, car parking systems and hotel reservations platforms, to name a few. We service a growing number of key verticals, where we have delivered demonstrable penetration, including shopping malls, airports, stadiums, retail outlets, restaurants, cultural centers, smart cities and city councils, gyms and hospitals. And our customer base continues to grow. We service over 900 customers globally, and we're present in over 10,000 venues around the world. We've continued to maintain a strong focus on enterprise and enterprise customers, attracting a number of new blue chip international brands to the register in the last quarter. Moving to Slide 6, operating and financial highlights. We continued a strong customer acquisition growth rate securing 5 new contracts during the quarter. Remaining true to our core vertical, we secured a 3-year contract with Australian property firm ISPT to deliver our IO Connect and IO Insight services to 31 ISPT properties as announced on the ASX during the quarter. Furthermore, in the U.S. market, we also secured our third U.S.-based retail property contract signing on Macerich, who have committed to a 1-year initial deal for IO Connect. And we also brought onboard as a customer El Dorado Furniture, a leading U.S. furniture outlet retailer, who has committed 13 initial stores for IO Connect and IO Insight on a 1-year contract. Our U.K. team has continued to convert well-known high street brands, concluding 3-year contracts with both Betfred and TJ Morris, who have each committed 100 stores as part of an initial rollout of IO Connect. Both Betfred and TJ Morris have an additional 800 stores combined, which we anticipate to become part of the future rollouts. Moving to Slide #7, where I'll hand over to John Rankin to take you through the key financial highlights delivered during the quarter.

John Rankin

executive
#3

Thanks, Wayne. Moving to Slide 7. If we turn our attention to our results in Q2. As Wayne mentioned earlier, the company has delivered another outstanding performance in the second quarter of the financial year. Revenues delivered in Q2 represent the second quarter of contribution from the Beonic acquisition completed at the start of Q1, and we're pleased to confirm, inclusive and exclusive of the Beonic contribution, the company has delivered strong quarter-on-quarter revenue growth. We start from the top. During the quarter, top line revenue grew at 20% quarter-on-quarter, delivering $3.7 million in revenue. Recurring revenue grew at 13% quarter-on-quarter, delivering $2.33 million, which as presented on the second graph on Slide 7, represents an almost doubling of recurring revenues in the last 12 months having grown 94%. Pre-Beonic, the company's recurring revenues grew by 14% quarter-on-quarter to $1.9 million, which represents a 57% increase when compared to the same period last year. We're also pleased to report that recurring revenues from the Beonic business, now fully embedded into the Skyfii operations, also delivered growth, up 8% quarter-on-quarter. The company exited Q2 with an annualized recurring revenue run rate of $10 million, representing an 11% improvement when compared to Q1's exiting run rate of $9 million. And finally, the company finished the quarter with cash at bank of $3.74 million. Our cash on the balance sheet, combined with the $2 million drawdown facility available to the company, positions Skyfii well to execute on our international growth strategy. Moving to Slide 8, results for the first half of FY '20. Our top line revenues generated in the first half of $6.8 million delivered a 45% uplift when compared to the second half of FY '19, with both underlying Skyfii and Beonic business providing positive contributions as mentioned on the previous slide. At the operating EBITDA line, the company delivered a result of $800,000 for the half, representing a 100% improvement when compared to second half FY '19. And finally, the company delivered a blended gross margin of 79%, a reporting metric the company will continue to focus on in future reporting periods. So in summary, the company has delivered strong quarter-on-quarter top line revenue growth, strong quarter-on-quarter and year-on-year recurring revenue growth, both inclusive and exclusive of the Beonic acquisition. The underlying Skyfii business continues to perform and is highly complemented by the Beonic service offering. Delivery of a positive operating EBITDA in line with our market guidance. And finally, the business continues to benefit from our diversified revenue mix having achieved a blended gross margin of 79%. So thanks for your time. I'll now hand you back to Wayne.

Wayne Arthur

executive
#4

Thanks, John. And I'm sure all shareholders will agree, another very good set of quarterly operating and financial results, which provides us a very strong platform for the second half of FY '20. Moving to Slide 10. I'd just like to provide an update on our sales pipeline as it relates to the current financial year. Now this was something that we presented as part of our AGM presentation in November of last year and depicts a snapshot of the revenues that we currently see in advanced stage of our pipeline across all markets that can actually impact the financial year '20 results. And so the result of our investment in core staff and valuable partnerships has enabled us to build up a very significant qualified sales pipeline of deals across all of our markets. Currently, we're progressing a pipeline of financial year '20 deals worth a little over $19 million, all of which, if successfully converted, have the ability to deliver revenue into FY '20. As mentioned, this is by no means our total pipeline but merely a snapshot of only those deals that fall into the current financial year. As we outlined earlier, we exited Q2 of FY '20 with an annualized recurring revenue run rate of $10 million, up from $9 million at the end of Q1 FY '20, which is an 11% uplift. In addition, as at today, we have just under $3 million in revenues in the final stages of contract negotiation and still 5 months left of the year to execute on those revenues. FY '20 is looking particularly bright in the international markets, which currently hold around $10 million in qualified advanced stage deals for the FY '20 year. Moving to the outlook slide on Slide 11. In closing today's presentation, here is an outline of the areas which remain in key focus for Skyfii as we look to the second half of financial year '20 and beyond. Firstly, we expect to see continued conversion of contracts from our international markets, which accounts for 55% of our FY '20 pipeline, advanced stage pipeline. We anticipate continuing to deliver double-digit quarter-on-quarter growth at both a recurring revenue and top line level. With a very strong cash position, we are well positioned to continue to invest for growth whilst continuing to remain focused on good cash management. And in addition, we have identified new geographies for growth via our expanding channel partner network. We are certainly buoyed by the company's continued strong growth quarter-on-quarter, and from a personal perspective, I'm very pleased with the growth opportunities we can see both locally and internationally across the business. The Beonic business delivered good growth in this quarter, and we are pleased with how seamlessly it has integrated into our total product and services offering. With that, we thank you for your time today and look forward to speaking with you all again in the following quarter. I will now hand back to the moderator for the Q&A session.

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] The first question today comes from Owen Humphries from Canaccord.

Owen Humphries

analyst
#6

Well done. You guys just keep ticking the boxes and your ARR keeps running higher. If you go to Slide [ 20 ], just going through that pipeline and going through the contract negotiations and pilots and proposals and if you compare that to the AGM statement. So I noticed that, FY '20, the qualified advanced stage pipeline has decreased from $25 million to $19 million. But I -- if you go down the bottom, the contract negotiation's fallen by about $1 million but the ARR's increased by $1 million. I imagine that's just kind of shifted across as converted. Can you maybe just talk through just the top of the funnel of that, the proposal presentation, how that may have fallen by $3 million? Just go through that...

Wayne Arthur

executive
#7

Yes. So it's a snapshot of the pipeline at a point in time which relates to the financial year. So obviously, as we move through the year, the window that we're looking at is getting smaller and smaller. So naturally, the "top of the funnel" pipeline opportunities that relate to the current year will likely [ lesser and less of that ] as we get closer to the end of the year. And then we'll reset our pipeline forecast for the next financial year, and it'll start at a much higher number, if that makes sense. So it's not a surprise to see the total pipeline number reducing because the window of conversion is reducing. But as you point out, Owen, the conversion rate has improved. So we've actually managed to push $1 million out of that funnel into converted revenues in the last quarter.

Owen Humphries

analyst
#8

And the 2 guys you've hired in the U.S., are they elephant hunters? Are they expanding the channel partnerships? Just talk through their opportunity sets and a bit about their backgrounds and what they can [ add to you ].

Wayne Arthur

executive
#9

Yes, sure. So no, look, it's a good question. We -- the VP of Channel and Strategic Partnerships is specifically there to lead and manage all of our channel partners. So that will naturally lead to, obviously, opportunities, but we've never had anybody really dedicated in the business to those key partnerships globally. So that person will look to create some efficiencies around how we recruit, how we educate and how we sell through more efficiently into those channels. So it is a revenue-generating role, albeit working through the middlemen. And then the CMO, Chief Marketing Officer's come onboard. He is a former marketing technology entrepreneur himself. He's built and exited a couple of companies in the U.S., so he's got a very good track record of, I suppose, doing what we do, in a way, and having gone the journey with a -- his particular focus has been in marketing. Marketing as a function, for us, has not necessarily been, as you probably know, Owen, a place that we've invested significantly in the past. We've very much been a sales-led business, and we're starting to invest more in marketing to drive lead gen, to broaden awareness and improve that kind of monthly qualified lead process into the pipeline. So that's where he's coming into the business. We will continue to recruit. We are looking to recruit additional heads into the U.S. market and into the U.K. market, which will be more coalface elephant-hunting salespeople as well.

Owen Humphries

analyst
#10

Okay. Okay. Good one. And I guess, in the last part about expanding the datasets that's represented inside the IO platform, I know you went up to 30 at one stage. I imagine that's continued to grow, and that increased relevance and stickiness. Can you maybe talk about 2 things? One, around customer churn during the half, in the past, it was very, very low for your business. Is that maintained through this quarter and this half? And then secondly, how are you expanding that, the amount of datasets embedded in the platform, which is your competitive advantage?

Wayne Arthur

executive
#11

Well, great question. So on the churn, yes, customer churn is still less than 1%, so a very -- still very, very low churn rate for the business, and that was maintained through the quarter. From a dataset perspective, absolutely. We essentially can ingest any data source from any technology that has what's called an API. And so that dataset ingest, I suppose, variety will continue to grow as we expand into new verticals and as we -- and even within the existing verticals as well. And we're seeing a particular growth opportunity within commercial real estates, building managements, with the integration of things like lighting, air conditioning, heating, classroom occupancy, applications and meeting room functions; to integration with hotel reservation systems, loyalty programs. So the list continues to grow basically as the use cases evolve, and we're seeing growth in particularly commercial real estate and hospitality as those data sources expand.

Owen Humphries

analyst
#12

And maybe we can talk about the WiFi. So that was, a couple of years ago, that you've kind of diversified away from that as a data source. But in terms of the platform usage, do you guys monitor number of [ seats ] or time on platform? Do you guys monitor anything about the acceptance of your platform within your customers?

Wayne Arthur

executive
#13

We do. So yes, we have an analytics platform internally that monitors usage and how many people are logging in and what times and which reports they're focusing on. That drives a lot of the -- so sorry. It drives some of the product development. So we focus on development around the insights and reports that customers are naturally logging in to look at, obviously less and less so the others. But yes, we do keep a fairly good monitor on that. There's certain champions within the organizations that generally are the custodians of access to the tool, but we don't -- the product isn't priced based on the number of user accounts or user log-ins. They can use as many or as little as they like. So it's not really a function of usage in terms of adoption. It doesn't really affect our kind of churn rate or acquisition rate at all. But we do keep a tab on it so we can understand what's being used, what's not being used.

Owen Humphries

analyst
#14

And given the investment in the platform and the people and the pipeline that you've articulated, is there any reason why your growth wouldn't slope to historic -- below historic average, let's call it, greater than 40% in calendar year '20?

Wayne Arthur

executive
#15

We don't see any reason to think that's possible just based on the, as you say, the size of the market that we are continuing to acquire. And also importantly, as I've pointed out in some of these contracts that we've signed on, most of our contracts that we signed on, people are starting with the very basic products initially. And that's historically how it's gone. So there's additional growth within those accounts as well as, obviously, a lot of new acquisitions out -- or new customer acquisitions out there for us. So no, we're very confident with the current organic growth rate continuing.

Owen Humphries

analyst
#16

And maybe I was going to finish my questions there but just noticed something then. How much -- what's the split between new customers -- if you look at your ARR growth during the quarter, how much is driven by upsell versus new customers?

Wayne Arthur

executive
#17

Sorry, I had the mute button on there for a second. It's -- look, it's still mostly new customer acquisitions, the revenues. I'd say it's still probably 90% or a little higher in terms of the revenues are attributed to new customer contracts rather than the upsell. But we -- with our sort of -- it generally takes a couple of years of us working with a particular customer group before there's enough history and trend and data volume for our services team to be able to go in and genuinely upsell further and for our engaged product to become more and more relevant. So that's just a typical life cycle. So that continues. But certainly in places like the U.S. where -- kind of our newest market, 100% of the revenues are obviously new customer acquisitions at the moment.

John Rankin

executive
#18

Base product.

Wayne Arthur

executive
#19

And base product, exactly.

Operator

operator
#20

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from [ Michael Burn ] from [ Camden Equity ].

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#21

Can I just -- a little bit of question about this position of the VP, Channel and Strategic Alliance. I know you've touched on it a bit. Well, I think that's quite an important appointment. Can you give some more insight into what the actual KPIs of that role are? How is that individual going to be measured in terms of their effectiveness?

Wayne Arthur

executive
#22

No, good question, [ Michael ]. So let me go one step back before I answer your question. The person that we've recruited to come onboard in that role was the former head of strategic alliances for one of our largest tech vendor partners in Ruckus wireless. So yes, I guess, firstly, just to point out this is kind of where she's worked in the last 15 to 20 years. The KPIs for the role for us are -- step 1 was actually to do an audit of the current channel partnerships. We've got 120-odd partners that we've recruited around the world, and fortunately or unfortunately, I'd say 20% to 30% of those are effective, and the rest really haven't been effective for a number of reasons. One, we do one deal generally with a partner, and we haven't had somebody genuinely nurturing that partnership and upselling them over time. And so there's probably a lot of partners in that current mix that need to be essentially audited, and we want to keep the good ones and obviously not the ones that are being ineffective. So step 1 is to audit. Step 2 is to then -- we've got a template that we're working on in terms of regional coverage and geographic coverage that we -- if there are gaping holes in that reach, she is being tasked to recruit new partnerships to fill that void. And then step 3 is we're putting our key strategic partnerships. We've picked a handful of those, sort of our top 20 partners around the world that she is going to be putting on a performance plan, essentially, which will carry a bunch of financial metrics, so revenue goals but also nonfinancial metrics, operating metrics such as new leads, leads in certain verticals. So there's -- that's the 3-step phase that she's working through. In addition to that, just working on how we improve our visibility within those partnerships, so attending certain events and partnership events, co-marketing, that kind of thing.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#23

And her reports will be to the Chief Operating Officer. [ Or then ] she'll report to you.

Wayne Arthur

executive
#24

Yes, that's correct, with [ a direct line ] to the CEO as well. We just -- I happen to reside in market with her, so I do have a daily relationship with her as well.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#25

I understand. Okay. And my next question relates to you mentioned churn, but you've got some -- a lot of your contracts are sort of 3- to 5-year contracts, so a lot of that's still in contract. Can you give me some idea of the experience of when your customers come off contract? You've been going long enough to have a couple of -- certainly a number of the 3 years and maybe 1 or 2 of the 5-year ones is rolling off now. Can you just give me some idea of the re-contracting in terms of experience without [ looking, mentioning anything that's commission expenses ]?

Wayne Arthur

executive
#26

So I'll hand to John for that one, [ Michael ], yes.

John Rankin

executive
#27

We've got a number of renewals, probably more in the Australian and U.K., European and Brazilian markets. Look, I think, typically, the engagement for a renewal is actually about buying more products and services of the company. So I think we've got some baseline products such as our connect product, which is WiFi, and our insights product. What we have now is other products and services that sit off the back of that, including our data science team as well as other people-counting solutions as well. So what we're finding with enterprise customers is that the conversation and the relationship is broadening. And where they see opportunity to partner more closely with Skyfii is through having that sort of centralized data platform on a number of different datasets they're looking to try and analyze to understand asset performance and business performance and so on and so forth. So I think from that perspective, the strategy to continue to evolve the datasets, provide more relevance, become stickier makes, I guess, the negotiation a little bit easier because our product and service offering has grown fundamentally. So I think from that perspective, it's a really positive step forward. In some cases, we may experience some price compression if it's a tender process through that renewal, but certainly, I think what we do stand behind is that the technology stack that we've built, having been involved in a number of tenders with more traditional competitors globally, typically stands out as the best technology stack, we believe, globally. So I think from that perspective, we're pretty confident and buoyant when we move into a renewal. I think probably more importantly the areas that we see as an opportunity to continue to nurture renewals is around that account management and customer success piece. That probably goes back to Owen's question around how we measure the performance or usage of the platform and how do we make sure that we continue to remain relevant for our customers and support them as they introduce products and services that we have across their enterprise businesses.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#28

So that's [ reasonable enough ]. It sounds to me that [ federal ] repricing on contracts is not as important as maybe further embedding the customer relationship. That's probably what you'd -- certainly what ultimately is long -- more valuable in the long term in the eyes of management.

John Rankin

executive
#29

Correct. I mean look, securing relationships with enterprise customers, that's the hard part. That requires a long sales cycle. Once you hold that relationship, the ability to upsell other products and services then becomes far easier. Still takes time, but obviously -- and so we see a real opportunity to nurture those relationships and continue to evolve our product and service offering to make sure that we're relevant. We stay ahead of the competitors, but we continue to try and grow the share of wallet from that customer.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#30

Okay. I've got 1 more question, and then I'll jump back in the queue, 1 or 2 other questions. My question is rather a semantic question, this definition of recurring revenue. I've always thought that some of the things that you've [ recently built ] have been the -- [ I sense, are ] defined as services. I would have thought that some of those, by the very nature of your business and the relationships with customers, would -- some of those services [ in the comments ] would actually be recurring in nature. I mean I heard some reference in the -- in opening -- one of your opening sentences to this call that said the recurring revenues actually do include a component of that, anyway. Could you just clarify this, to the extent my question is clear, that is?

Wayne Arthur

executive
#31

Yes. No, no, makes sense, [ Michael ]. So yes, absolutely. So we do point out when we define the revenue sets that services can be recurring and can also be nonrecurring, and it really just depends on, I guess, what we're checking with that particular customer. But specifically, the services team, as much as it's a stand-alone unit for the business, is also a source of R&D for us because they're generally the tip of the spear with customers on evolving data science projects into tangible kind of series of reports and things like that, which in some cases have made their way back into the platform itself as a recurring-revenue product. So hard to put a percentage conversion on that. But I would say something like 20% or 25% of the revenues are recurring, and the balance is still, at this stage, project oriented. A lot of the things we do with services, particularly, is paid customization or paid customized projects that we work on which delivers an outcome for a customer, and then we then get briefed on the next project and the next project. So I suppose, to go back to your question, we generally continue to get services out of some of our key customers on an ongoing basis, but they're different projects from time to time. They're not necessarily all long-term subscriptions, if that makes sense. So...

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#32

Sure. That $10 million figure that you quote doesn't include some of that services component that you deem to be of a recurring nature.

Wayne Arthur

executive
#33

That's right, yes, yes, a very small component of it. Yes, absolutely.

Operator

operator
#34

[Operator Instructions] The next question is a follow-up from [ Michael Burn ].

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#35

I'm quite interested in the -- I think what you -- one of your -- or the -- what you guys have done well is there's been a -- I think you've taken a considered approach to growing the business and the investment in cost has sort of followed the revenue up and you haven't had to sort of source capital externally. So -- and then you could go faster but -- usually a sort of a middle road to be tread, trodden. But I'm interested in the cost structure as it stands now. Specifically, I'm trying to get a sense of how much of the cost structure is sort of stay-in business of -- in other words, it's a business -- if someone [indiscernible] said, right, then we'll -- you're not allowed to grow anymore, what would the cost structure look like then? So I'm trying to get a sense of the difference between the sort of stay-in-business cost structure. And how much costs are being invested for -- to pursue growth, just in broad percentage terms, please?

Wayne Arthur

executive
#36

Yes. Okay. So I mean I understand the question. I'm just trying to think about how the percentages would relate. But so I guess, let me go one step back. We could -- because of the nature of the revenue base is about 65% recurring, if we didn't go out there and try to sell any more deals, we would likely be able to maintain, obviously, that revenue line into the future without any additional head count. But the reality is that we are trying to expand, and by expanding, we're talking 2, 3 head count in each market at a maximum to focus in on trying to sell more services, to focus in on trying to recruit more partners and so on. And there's also still a large part of the globe that we don't currently service actively that we can enter ourselves into as well. So that's what we would try. That's what we're intending to do over the next couple of years. We need, we do need to expand our geographic footprint into some new markets. We do need to create more sales opportunities. And we also do need to provide more support functions across the business just due to the fact that we've matured, I suppose, into a much bigger business now. John mentioned in the customer success arena particularly and in the marketing function, as we've already started to do, we've got some additional head counts to be brought on there, which are all going to be ultimately contributing in some way to revenue, marketing from a lead gen perspective, customer success from a support and enablement and upsell perspective. So with that kind of setup, I think we've forecasted to add about 8 or 9 heads over the next 12 months across the business, across those different functions and in each -- and as a total pool across the business. As you've said, we've been fairly [ considered ]. We don't have a huge workforce today. We're a 60-person business in -- trying to operate across 30 countries. So -- but that means that we are a big business, but we've chosen to focus on getting the best talent we can. We're not a -- so we're pretty discerning about that, but we do hire senior people as a result. So I know it's not really a direct answer to your question, [ Michael ], but the fact is that the revenue growth is not -- and the cost base aren't linear. We do have the ability to control that. And if we stopped growing tomorrow, we would probably still be able to grow our revenues. I'm not sure with the same pace. But my issue with that strategy would be I think we'd be in trouble in a couple-of-years time in terms of just being able to support that rollout. And that's the piece we're trying to invest for now is to be in a position in 2 years time to support what we expect to be a big year in '21.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#37

Okay. On reflection, it probably wasn't that smart a question, as I think of it. But let me [ clarify ]. This extra head count that you're taking onboard, can I assume that, well, the capital raising that was done late last year, that will -- so that head count will be funded from internal resources? Is that the thinking in that capital raising as well?

Wayne Arthur

executive
#38

Yes, yes, correct, correct. It's given us a bit more working capital. We've still got access to a $2 million loan facility as well that -- which is kind of a noncore facility. So yes, we've got -- it will be done through our own internal capital, yes.

Operator

operator
#39

Thank you. At this time, we're showing no further questions. I'll hand the conference back to Mr. Arthur for closing remarks.

Wayne Arthur

executive
#40

Well, thanks, everyone, for your time. I appreciate everyone dialing in again for this quarterly and encouraged by some of the -- the line of questions. We're always happy to answer those. As [ Michael ] has pointed out, and Owen, we're on a really, really strong growth trajectory. We do feel as though we've been [ considered ] with how we invest the capital and the shareholder money. And we do see an ever-increasing opportunity to grow this company, and we're excited about next quarter and the end of this financial year and then into FY '21. So thanks for your time. Thanks for being shareholders, and we look forward to next quarter's call.

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