Beonic Limited (BEO) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 5, 2024

ASX AU Information Technology Software earnings 33 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Craig Sainsbury

attendee
#1

[Audio Gap] results presentation. With me today is Billy Tucker, the CEO; and Michael Pearce, CFO. Billy and Michael will give a presentation followed by the chance to ask some questions. [Operator Instructions]. So with that, gentlemen, I will turn it over to you.

William Tucker

executive
#2

Thanks, Craig. So welcome to Beonic's Q4 performance and strategy update. Thanks for making the time. As Craig mentioned, questions at the end. But please, if you get a chance to think about some good useful questions that you can ask that can really stimulate some dialogue and discussion. I'm delighted that Michael was able to join the call. He's actually in New York right now. Luckily, the time of day works out really well for him. He joined us almost 2 months ago now as our first CFO. He's had a tremendous impact in that time. He's gone over 17 years of experience as a global finance leader and most recently, he was a CFO at WeConvene, which is a globally deployed cloud-based meeting and event booking platform. I also -- he's not on the call, but I want to mention that Mike McConnell has joined us onto our Board as an NED. Mike comes with a tremendous experience. Over 16 public company boards that he served on is based in Colorado, in the U.S., and as such, it is going to help us really to drive our business over there. So let me just start with a reminder. So we're the global leader in IoT services to airports and retail property. Airports in particular really love the Beonic product. Our solutions help them rush passengers through from curb to gate, lowers the cost to serve, improves the airport experience and ensures the maximum possible dwell time air side, which means retail and at quick service restaurants. And the more time they get spend there, the more money they'll spend there and the more money the airport can make tuning its services and improving infrastructure. We do think about airports as large shopping malls effectively with busy transit hubs attached to them. Over time, passenger yield will predominantly come from Air side, from retail and QSR, and so that's why it's really incumbent on airports to get those operations working and to maximize average revenue per traveler. It should be seen as no coincidence that our ability to tune our services in retail, and retail property assists us as we enter the airport vertical and provide that airport vertical a complete solution. We've got over 11,000 venues using our platform in 35 countries. And right now, we've got well over 80 airports using our products. I'm going to come on and talk about that a little bit more. So just a quick summary of Q4, how that went for us. Look, it was a solid Q4. We've gone through an enormous amount of transformation as a business, as we've talked about before and as we're going to continue to talk about, we exited the quarter with ARR of $16.8 million, which again is solid. In the coming quarter, we're really focused on this existing incredible installed base. I mentioned over 11,000 venues and 80 airports. So we've got to identify opportunities for upsell. It really is our short- to medium-term revenue story. The sales cycle in airports could be very, very long in airport -- in retail property less so, but still quite low. And so the existing customer base that we have and our ability to build product that appeals to them is our most direct path to short-term revenue. In Q4, we saw growth in existing contracts with Heathrow Airport, JFK, Wellington and Athens airports. These are tremendous stories for our business. And so that's really a big part of our business. From a cost saving point of view, and I've mentioned before, and I continue to mention that cost saving initiatives will be at the heart of our business strategy going forward. We do believe that stan-lean is going to be critical to our competitive advantage. We need to maximize the value of our growing balance sheet. Speaking of which, on the 23rd of August, we're going to ask our shareholders to approve a placement. $5 million have been committed already by investors to that placement. And we're also going to invite our shareholders to vote on an SPP at the same time on the 23rd. Now I'm going to hand over to Michael for the next couple of slides just as we go through financial and operational performance.

Michael Pearce

executive
#3

Thank you very much, Billy. Well, I do have joined Beonic Limited as its first CFO. It's an exciting time to be with the company. I'm very excited about this business, the verticals in which we operate, and also the tremendous traction that has been achieved so far by Beonic. The blue chip names that we have, I think, are very impressive. And it's -- like I said, I'm very excited, looking forward to working with this team. Next slide, there we go. During Q4, we generated $5.9 million in operating revenue, and $6.4 million in cash receipts, up from the prior comparative period of $5.3 million. Annualized recurring revenues of $16.8 million, and cash at the bank of $2.7 million at June 30. And then the capital raise. So let me describe capital raise in a little bit more detail. Billy touched on it earlier, but we've received binding commitments from institutional and sophisticated investors to raise $5 million via a 2-tranche institutional placement. Tranche 1 has already raised $1.4 million, and tranche 2, we have for a further $3.6 million in commitments, subject to shareholder approval at the EGM that Billy referred to are coming up later this month on the 23rd of August. We will also seek approval for a shareholder purchase plan -- share purchase plan to raise up to an additional $0.5 million. The placement has been well supported by new and existing institutional sophisticated investors. We saw on par capital enter the register to own 13.9% of the company. Existing shareholders, including Thorney have increased their stake, and directors of the business are Kirsty Rankin, and Mike McConnell as well as CEO and Executive Director, Billy Tucker, are all participating in the placement as well. So that's more detail on the race.

William Tucker

executive
#4

Thanks, Michael. So this slide just talks about a handful of contract wins in Q4. This includes renewals as well. On the right-hand side, you'll see -- so notably, a couple that I'll point out, Woolworths. Now of course, we are very familiar with Woolworths in Australia, but this is a different one. This is South Africa, the 1 that used to own David Jones. So we supply technology to over 500 Woolworths ventures in South Africa. London City Airport, kind of a unique airport that exists right in the very part of London, in fact London City, on reclaimed land from the Thames. They have an interesting model in that they have a commitment to the London governments that they have a 19-minute SLA from curb to gate, and they rely upon Beonic's technology to help measure that and to figure out ways to improve customer and passenger flow. Waverley Council, this is part of our Smart Cities program, Waverley Council in Sydney. This is a pretty large Smart City project and 1 that we're delighted to continue to work with them. And then 1 of my personal favorites, Wellington Airport, just love Wellington is a tremendous place. So if you get a chance and you find that you breeze through Wellington Airport, you know why that is because of the Beonic technologies. So I'm going to talk about the deal pipeline, incredibly healthy. There's over $15 million of ARR in that pipeline right now. Notably, almost half the pipeline is in the airport vertical. I mentioned that the sales cycle is a little bit longer there than it would otherwise be in retail and retail property. But it's a very healthy sales pipeline, and we feel very confident that we're entering into a new financial year, and it's going to be successful for us. I did want to take a couple of minutes and just delve a little bit deeper into our strategy and some of our plans for the future. Now this next slide, you may have seen it before. I think you've seen it before, but it has been updated with -- we've largely executed on a significant cost saving plan, cost across the business. I said at the beginning of the call, our focus remains on staying lean for competitive advantage. We think it's essential for the business, we have to get to breakeven, that is project #1. We'll continue to focus on that. Let me just hand over to Michael, who's just going to spend another couple of minutes talking about this.

Michael Pearce

executive
#5

Thank you very much, Billy. So our focus, as he says, it remains to stay lean and control cost. So -- and as a competitive -- to keep our competitive advantage, we are centering our teams in Lisbon, Sao Paulo, Belfast, Manila for this reason and to great effect. During the past 6 months, we've streamlined operations, the leadership team, reducing head count and average fixed compensation across the business. Through this program, we will realize over $2 million in annualized cost savings at the end or by the end, I should say, rather, of Q1 FY '25.

William Tucker

executive
#6

Just a little bit deeper into the airport vertical. I've got a couple of slides on this. Look, that airport verticals for us in terms of revenue has almost doubled since the acquisition of CrowdVision back in 2021. There's an opportunity for upsell in almost all cases. In fact, I would say, all cases. And our solutions typically service only 1 terminal or 1 part of a terminal where many more exist. So for instance, there are -- we have 2 of 7 terminals at JFK. We have 3 of 5 terminals at Heathrow Airport. The recent footprint expansions at Adelaide, Heathrow, JFK, there are examples of us successfully executing this airport strategy. Now I mentioned this on a prior call, but quite often times, terminals are managed by different operators in airports. So JFKIAT is Terminal 4, whereas there's different operators that manage different terminals. And so it's not always simple to move from 1 terminal to another, but we've done that to great effect by demonstrating incredible value to the existing terminal and proven that to the others. We believe that within our existing airport installed base, there's an additional $20 million of ARR if we were able to secure all of the additional terminals that existed those airports. So it's a very powerful opportunity. I just wanted to briefly dwell on JFK. Another favorite customer of ours, I just want to talk for a second or 2 about how we went about winning that customer and how we've gone about building such a strong relationship. So our U.S. team traveled to New York and have done so several times since we work directly with JFK and also CBP, which is Customs and Border Protection. We really needed to understand their goals. It was all about improving passenger and operational efficiency. Big cues are terrible for the customer experience, but no queues are really bad for the bottom line. And so our job is to help airports balance those 2 dynamics. We want to make sure that acceptable customer cues exist that customers feel comfortable and aware of how long they're likely to be there. And airports can deploy staff in the right numbers such that their cost to serve is manageable. We helped JFK figure out kiosk utilization, passenger processing, staffing levels, as I mentioned, and those insights and alerts and notifications are right across the airport now. So it's been a tremendous relationship, 47% growth in ARR over the last 18 months since we started working with that business. And so we feel really good that there's also a lot of additional revenue available to us from JFK. Just 1 example of the over 80 airports that I mentioned. Let me just talk for a couple of minutes about our plans going forward. Development of clear path to breakeven, like I said, is project #1, probably project #1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. That project is almost complete. We have an insight into when breakeven and cash breakeven will happen. Well I can say, I feel good about that. There's still a lot of work to do, but we have a clear plan to execute. It was great having Michael joined the business. We have quite literally poured through every expense line, all the way down to a couple of hundred dollars a year. We reviewed all of our SaaS expenses, all of our office expenses, G&A, we have trimmed those expenses all the way across the business, and we've got a plan to continue. We continue to consolidate the software that we use, third-party software. And so that's been a really important part of our process to shift the philosophy and the organization to award cost management and the importance of doing so. Now all that said, we're not going to cut our way to profit. So we've got to do is measure effectiveness across the business and figure out where to deploy assets and revenue and cash to make sure that we're able to grow the business in a sensible way. We've closed the Melbourne office quite recently. We did that for a good reason. We wanted to consolidate our hardware onboarding that used to happen. We had a great team in Melbourne that needs to happen there. Some of that will now occur in Sydney, but most of that will go to Belfast over time. We're a big fan of the Belfast market, some tremendous access to very smart people. It's a good market. It also happens to be a slightly lower cost base than you would find in Sydney or Melbourne. So that's a good thing. We're investing in the cadence of our product development. I mentioned at the top of the call, it was important to us that we're continuing to be able to cross-sell through our existing vast installed base. And we can do that largely through product development. And so we're increasing the size of that product development team so that we can improve our product cadence. And then lastly, I want to mention that we are figuring out how to make best use of our partner channel. Now 32% of our revenue already comes by partners but it is our intention to get that to over 60% of all revenue in short order. And if you exclude Australia from that, we're already at 48% globally outside of Australia and 32% when you account for Australia. So we know that we're on the way to do that, but we know that it's a fairly substantial project. Quick summary of strategy before we open up to questions. We've got a narrower focus to airports and retail. Look, currently, we do sell outside of those 2 verticals. We've got stadiums and we've got a couple of zoos, got Taronga zoo here in Sydney, as well as Omaha zoo in the U.S. We've got various places that we have sold to historically. It is our intention that we will take those noncore markets and offer those 2 partners once that partner channel has been developed because right now, that can be a distraction for us. That's similarly true, I mentioned 35 markets that we have customers installed in. 35 markets is not necessarily practical for us over the next 3 to 5 years. And so again, it's our intention that we would take some half of those markets and have those deployed again by our partners. We continue to drive down labor costs by shift in costs from leadership roles to lower-cost roles. We continue to consolidate around high-value markets like Lisbon, Belfast, Manila, San Paolo and Cape Town. We will deploy inside sales. We've got a field sales force, again, very difficult to cover some of these vast markets through folks who are out in the field. And as a result, we're supplementing those field sales folks with inside salespeople. Now I want to hand back to Craig for questions, but I do want to also thank you for taking the time to listen to this update. And hopefully, we'll have some good questions.

Craig Sainsbury

attendee
#7

[Operator Instructions] First 1 is on airports, for you, Billy. You mentioned the opportunity to [ towards selling ] that land and expand strategy. Taking JFK as an example, how do you go about getting into multiple terminals? Is that engaging with JFK pitching into it? Are you getting [ whole view ] by the development [or is it saying ] the success you [ had for the terminal ] or just expand a little bit on how that strategy actually works?

William Tucker

executive
#8

So the whole airport industry is remarkable. One of the key features of that industry is that they don't necessarily compete with each other. And so they're a very friendly group of people. They talk off and they share best practices. They want to improve the wellness of the industry overall. And as a result, when a terminal operator finds technology that improves the customer experience or cost to serve for them, they're more than willing to share that with others. And that's been our experience. So similarly true in New Zealand with Wellington and Christchurch, those airport operators are willing to talk to other New Zealand airports about their experiences. And similarly, with Adelaide, with JFK, with Heathrow, Athens all around the world, those airport operators share. Same is true for terminal to terminal communications. So although they are operating separately, they do have some joint committees and meetings that they participate in, and that's often where those experiences are shared. And of course, lastly, they perform a reference function in the event that we approach those other terminals directly. So airports and the network operator, then those airport -- happy airports are great references for us.

Craig Sainsbury

attendee
#9

What do you say by the way of competition in that space? So moving into different terminals, is that effectively totally white space, there's nothing in there, or are you supplementing other systems that sort of fully functional as yours?

William Tucker

executive
#10

Yes, it's a great question. Look, there is competition. The competition often comes from a slightly different perspective, either from hardware vendors who want to deploy their hardware predominantly, but we'll also deploy some software competing with us. Oftentimes, we also work with those hardware vendors. And so they just want to deploy the hardware. Whether we do it or they do it, it makes not a huge amount of difference to them. That's a good outcome. So the stronger those relationships are, and the greater our buying power, then the returns to scale are really attractive to us. There are software vendors who are airport-specific. We find we compete really well with those airport operators because of our retail experience and those airport operators acknowledge that, to some extent, queue management is commoditized over time. But as that's blended with the ARPU from retail and QSR, Beonic is really the only partner that can help them work all the way across the airport from curb to gate and beyond. So those are the 2 predominant competitors that we face.

Craig Sainsbury

attendee
#11

You mentioned hardware there. There's a question on this. So previously, we've got hardware and the potential to move that into the subscription revenue model, slightly more capital intensive with that transformation of your balance sheet. Is that something you can be able to start accelerate now? And how much upside do you see from that hardware side of [ things ]?

William Tucker

executive
#12

Yes. So in Q4, we signed around $0.5 million worth of IaaS contracts, so Infrastructure as a Service. So that's where we deploy the hardware. We include the cost of the hardware into the subscription. The margin on those IaaS contracts has been over 80%. So it's a much improved margin story. It is capital-intensive. But over the course of the deal, the customer is typically happier, we're certainly happier with those high margins. And so our ability to scale up IaaS deals over time is going to be a really important part of our strategy.

Craig Sainsbury

attendee
#13

Next question is on the partner channel model. How many partners do you think you need to be working with to really drive the percentage of revenue from that stream sort of talking 2 or 3? Or are we sort of talking 20% and 30%?

William Tucker

executive
#14

Yes, it's more 20% or 30%. But if you think of the majority or a majority of our partner revenue is going to come from probably 3 or 4 global system integrators. And then there's going to be market level SIs who will probably number first, it's kind of [ operational ] -- probably a number in the 15 to 20, and they will generate sort of 20% to 30% of revenue. So it's probably going to be a mix a lot like that. What's important to us is that our ability to onboard and serve as a partner is relatively low touch. So a lot of self-help, a lot of explainer videos, we make the software accustomed to those -- to a partner channel so that they can manage, for instance, at an administrator level how the software operates. So it's a slight adjacency to where we've been historically, but it would be a very valuable and scalable channel.

Craig Sainsbury

attendee
#15

And then just a follow-up question on that line. What would roughly the difference in margin fee between derived sales from Beonic versus channel partner? Is there a significant difference between the 2 or roughly the same sort of margin?

William Tucker

executive
#16

No, I think about the margins being largely similar. What's good for partners is that their goal is not just to sell Beonic. Their goal is to sell in a significant reengineering project to stadiums, to retail -- retail property to airports into other verticals. So they want to sell an all-encompassing strategy and probably on a 10-year horizon into large venues. Hospitals are a fantastic example. So we have the Hapvida hospitals in Brazil. Ideally, we would have partners to deploy those very large-scale solutions, and we would just be 1 component of that. We just want to be the software vendor. The 87% margins that we generate from software, they're pretty good. We'd like to just really do more of that.

Craig Sainsbury

attendee
#17

Next question is on the pipeline. Can you just give a little bit of update on the pipeline win rates and how that's been compared versus historical levels?

William Tucker

executive
#18

Yes. I've got to say 1 of the glitches in our model right now is that we have spanned ourselves across 2 CRM platforms, HubSpot and Salesforce. HubSpot has been relatively recent and not fully adopted. And as a result, Salesforce has been around for longer and again, not fully adopted. So 1 of the disappointing aspects is our ability to track, manage and report on pipeline conversion rates by salesperson, by vertical, it's really been a little bit of a weakness for us. And so I've got to say that there's -- our conversion rate in airports is high. I know that's not going to be acceptable to a lot of people in the audience to say that. But our ability to win airports is high, but the deal flow is low. Our ability to -- if you take a more commoditized product like people counting at retail, the win rate would be more modest, but the deal flow is pretty high. So we get inbound inquiries all the time from retailers. But let me say this, as part of our cost-cutting strategy, consolidating the various SaaS platforms that we use is key. And we are in the process of reviewing Salesforce versus HubSpot. We used 2 other platforms as well that are connected to our CRM and our view is we're going to consolidate down to 1 by Christmas time. That's going to save us a bit of money, but more importantly, it removes some of the sand in the gears that exists in the business as we're trying to track sales and an incredibly important LTV over CAC metric that we care so much about really is the heartbeat in the business.

Craig Sainsbury

attendee
#19

[Operator Instructions] Lastly in the queue at the moment. We really -- you talked about $2 million worth of cost savings by Q1 FY '25. How are we tracking along that what sort of level we are at the moment?

William Tucker

executive
#20

Yes, we're tracking. So we are -- the vast majority of the way through that $2 million cost saving plan. Now of course, we are replacing some of those costs with new costs. And as part of the high-rise cap raise process, the $5 million that we spoke about, we have a use of funds that include spending more money on sales and our marketing and on product development. So we are going to replace those costs, but what we are seeing is a much healthier P&L, where more of our costs are aligned more directly to revenue initiatives and are more likely to yield profitable results. So a vast majority of our way through those cost kind of initiatives, and in fact, I should mention that 1 of the key initiatives was that we reduced our head count from over 100 people to 81, that's done. That work has all been done. We closed the Melbourne office. We closed the second office in Orange County. So all that heavy lifting has now been done. We've got software rationalization that can take a little bit longer to execute. And then we're working hard to make sure that we streamline how we think about hardware operations. We are investing in technical deployment. So we've installed a head of technical operations into each of our key markets to help us with that. That's really about getting us from statement of work to UAT as quickly and reliably as possible because that's when we get paid. So cost-cutting process largely done by the end of Q1, we'll have realized all the upside from that. And that will include -- that we will have made a decision on CRM and we'll have rationalized most of our software.

Craig Sainsbury

attendee
#21

A couple more questions have dropped in. One, I think you addressed in that last question -- the last answer. What's the total number of employees presently?

William Tucker

executive
#22

As of today, the number is 82.

Craig Sainsbury

attendee
#23

Next 1, you mentioned LTV [ significantly ] as an important metric. I want to disclose what sort of target you have for that?

William Tucker

executive
#24

Well, let me just say there's 2 industry benchmarks that we care about. One is LTV over CAC of 4. So a 4x ratio on lifetime value to customer acquisition cost, that's the benchmark that we will strive for. I see no reason for us not to be able to achieve that. And the second 1 is the Rule of 40. Now anyone who's been paying attention to our business will know that we're nowhere near Rule of 40 business. In fact, we're a long way off. But that is our goal. We've -- I don't think it's reasonable for us to assume that we're going to come back to the market for growth capital at any point a year or 2 years from now, and not already be on track to be a Rule of 40 business. That has to be the goal. But in terms of LTV over CAC, it's a ratio of 1.

Craig Sainsbury

attendee
#25

All right. And I think you've answered this question in a few different ways, but it's coming, looking back in 5 years' time, what would you consider success for the business?

William Tucker

executive
#26

Look, I mean, right now, we're -- our market cap is less than our ARR. I think it's a good place to start is that we should be rewarded as a business with a ton of potential. We've got tremendous traction. We're in an attractive and very large set of markets in airports and large retail. The fact that we trade with a market cap well under ARR doesn't seem quite right, but I think that's because -- we've not done a good job in the past of building a sustainable business. That's something that we're on track to do now. So when we look back a year from now, my expectation is that our market cap is more appropriate. When we look back 5 years from now, our dominant position in the airport and large retail market, that's what my expectation is. We will be deploying the vast majority of revenue via partners. Our software stack will be first party. We will be relying on third-party developers as much as we do today. We'll probably, I hope, have a similarly sized team between 80 and 150 people around the world, makes a lot of sense to me. We won't have more offices, and we'll be leaning more heavily on partnered execution. That's what I think success would look like. We're already famous in a couple of niche verticals. We just want to continue that.

Craig Sainsbury

attendee
#27

Thanks, Billy. Thanks, Michael. That's all for the questions for now. Billy, I'll just hand back to you for any last, I think, final closing comments.

William Tucker

executive
#28

None for me, other than I look forward to support on the 23rd of August, a really important shareholder vote to get that placement through and the SPP. I would suggest that if there are any questions in the meantime, my contact details will show up on the slide. Please reach out to me directly or reach out to Craig with any questions or comments. I'm always open to feedback from our shareholders. And yes, thanks for your support.

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