Borouge plc (BOROUGE) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
July 31, 2024
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Samar Khan
executiveA warm welcome to everyone, and thank you for joining Borouge's second quarter earnings call. My name is Samar Khan, and I'm the Vice President of Investor Relations at Borouge. I have with me today the Borouge management team, Chief Executive Officer, Hazeem Al Suwaidi; Chief Marketing Officer, Rainer Hoefling; Chief Operating Officer; Dr. Hasan Karam; and Chief Financial Officer, Jan-Martin Nufer. We'll begin with a short presentation by the management team in respect to performance for the second quarter, as well as our outlook for the rest of the year. We'll then open the call to your questions. I'll now hand over to Hazeem to present highlights in the quarter. Over to you, Hazeem.
Hazeem Al Suwaidi
executiveThank you, Samar, and thank you all for joining us today. I'm pleased to announce that Borouge has delivered yet another outstanding set of results. During the second quarter, we achieved the highest ever quarterly production volumes, strong sales volumes and healthy pricing premia, while maintaining cost discipline and continuing to drive efficiencies throughout the business. Borouge reported a net profit of $308 million in Q2, representing an increase of 33% on a year-on-year basis. On a half year basis, Net profit increased by a significant 55% year-on-year to $581 million. On the next slide, I want to cover Borouge's excellent track record since its IPO. I would like to strongly emphasize 2 main messages. First, the Borouge has delivered resilient results and outpeformed experience and market expectations in a very challenging polyolefins market. Borouge's abilities to maintain industry-leading profitability margins stems from it's robust business model and management proactively and navigating dynamic markets and driving efficiencies. As a result, the company benefits from high cash generation and a strong balance sheet, which enables the distribution of a substantial dividend, contributing to the highest surface shareholder returns amongst our industry peers since the IPO. The second key message is that Borouge is well positioned both strategically and financially to pursue accelerated growth. As you are aware, we are pursuing several growth initiatives, and I will cover this topic in the later part of the presentation. With that, I would now like to hand over to Rainer to provide a commercial update.
Rainer Hoefling
executiveThank you, Hazeem, and good afternoon, everyone. In Quarter 2, 2024, blended average selling price across polyethylene and polypropylene were relatively flat versus the previous quarter and down 2% year-on-year. In Quarter 2 benchmark prices for both polyethylene and polypropylene improved slightly by 2% and 4%, respectively. And while on a year-on-year basis, benchmark prices for polyethylene remained flat and for polypropylene increased by 4%. During the quarter, Borouge was able to achieve premia above benchmark prices for both polethylene and polypropylene in line with management's over-the-cycle premia guidance of USD 200 per tonne for polyethylene and USD 140 per tonne for polypropylene. On a half yearly basis, premia for both polyethylene and polypropylene remained above management guidance at USD 209 per tonne and USD 149 per tonne, respectively. Polyolefins prices remained stable during Quarter 2, 2024 due to upbeat crude oil prices. generally low operating rates at marginal producer and various logistics-related constraints. In quarter 3, we expect polyethylene prices to remain within a narrow band supported by ongoing global logistic bottlenecks and elevated feedstock costs. That said, Borouge remains well positioned versus industry peers and confirms to deliver product premia above benchmarks over the cycle, based on a strategic focus on differentiated and durable products, geographic optimization and its agility to manage current and upcoming market challenges. I will now discuss sales volumes for the period before I ask Dr. Hasan to take us through some operational highlights from the second quarter. Quarter 2, 2024 sales volumes remained healthy at 1,311 kilo tonnes, up 16% versus the previous quarter and 9% on a year-on-year basis. Sales volumes for polyethylene were up by 9% and for polypropylene were up by 25%, respectively, on a quarter-on-quarter basis. Our sales volumes for Energy & Infrastructure Solutions represent 41% of our overall sales volumes in quarter 2. This is part of Peru's strategy to focus on durable and high value-add products and where we can realize higher pricing premium. Borouge remains committed in its focus on innovation and strives to generate at least 20% of annual sales volumes from new products. The 2024 product pipeline includes new products offering differentiated solutions to our customers. The Asia Pacific market continues to be the largest destination for sales in Quarter 2 with 66% of total sales volume, followed by the Middle East and Africa 29%. Other regions represent 6%. Finally, I would like to add to what Hazeem was earlier saying in relation to delivering on the equity story, in particular, Borouge's commercial excellence has been demonstrated very consistently in the final performance of the company. In a challenging environment, moving sales volumes between markets with better margins, while keeping costs in check and innovation at a high pace is a unique feature of Borouge business model. This is the result of company-wide collaboration driven by the tremendous efforts and commitment of our talented people. With that, I will hand over to Dr. Hasan.
Hasan Karam
executiveThank you, Rainer, and good afternoon, everyone. I would like to begin with a few words on our continued leadership and safety performance, which is one of the foundation of our successful and sustainable business. Year-to-date, Borouge has recorded a TRI rate of 0.08. Our safety metrics continue to hold a leading position in our industry. And I want to congratulate our team for their outstanding safety performance. On operational KPIs, I am happy to share that in Q2, we achieved the highest ever quarterly production volume of 1,355 kilo tonnes from utilization rate of PE and PP of 114% and 103%, respectively. At the same time, we are able to maintain an industry-leading asset reliability of 97%. The Olefin Conversion Unit operated at high capacity utilization rate during the quarter. As a part of our leading operation expense program, we are constantly striving to optimize resources, improve efficiency and create incremental value by challenging capital expenditure plan, including [indiscernible]. The Borouge [indiscernible], which was previously planned for Q4 2024 with an estimated 320 kilo tonnes production volume impact will now take this in Q2 2025. This is driven by the opportunity to optimize the feedstock supply and create on top of the shift effect from 2024 into 2025, an incremental value of USD 20 million to USD 40 million in EBITDA above our plan. This is a great demonstration of value creation in our operations business, in addition to the ongoing cost and capital deployment optimization. Our planned operational maintenance turnaround are a key part of Borouge's regular asset management, which keeps the company world-class asset base well maintained and support our high utilization rate, industry leading asset ability and efficient and safe operations. I will now hand over to Jan-Martin to discuss our financials.
Jan-Martin Nufer
executiveThank you, Hasan, and good afternoon, everyone. We are excited to report a very strong net profit of USD 308 million for the second quarter, representing a 33% increase from the previous year and a 13% increase on a quarter-on-quarter basis. Q2 revenue was recorded at USD 1.5 billion, a 6% increase on a year-on-year basis and a 15% increase from the previous quarter. Strong top line was supported by healthy sales volumes enabled by our outstanding operations performance and stable average selling prices during the quarter. As highlighted before, Borouge delivered another exceptional EBITDA margin in the quarter of 41%. This reflects our ongoing operational efficiencies. On a half year basis, revenue remained flat at USD 2.8 billion, focused cost discipline helped in delivering a strong adjusted EBITDA of USD 1.2 billion and the net profit of USD 581 million, which is up 21% and 35%, respectively, versus the same period last year. On to the next slide. We will now look at costs, an area where we continue to make progress after the very successful completion of our ambitious value enhancement program in 2023 that delivered USD 607 million through revenue optimization and strategic cost management. In Q2, our overall cost base, excluding depreciation and amortization, remained flat as compared to the same period last year, and increased 21% from the previous quarter due to increased production and sales volumes during the quarter. Total cost of goods sold, excluding depreciation and amortization, decreased by 1% on a year-on-year basis and increased 24% versus the previous quarter due to higher production following a successfully completed feedstock-related maintenance in Q1. Our overall selling and distribution expenses in Q2 remained flat on a year-on-year basis, despite a 9% increase in sales volumes during the same period. General and administrative expenses in Q2 increased by 10% from USD 49 million to USD 54 million on a year-on-year basis due to one-off items. In the first half year, total cost base, excluding depreciation and amortization, declined 11% despite higher production and sales volume. Borouge's first quartile position in the PE and PP cost curves, when combined with its ability to command premia against benchmarks supports a very strong margin profile that ultimately enables exceptional shareholder returns. On to CapEx and cash flow. Adjusted operating free cash flow in Q2 was recorded at USD 581 million, representing a substantial increase of 17% on a year-on-year basis. Cash conversion was strong at 95%. Net debt-to-EBITDA ratio stood at 1.2x as of the 30th of June 2024. With the additional prepayment of USD 100 million under the commercial facility end of June, the successful management of the financing cost could be continued. Borouge maintained successfully premia above benchmark prices over the cycle in a challenging environment, which contributes to strong operating free cash flows and the very significant through-the-cycle dividend paying capacity. The company will make an interim dividend payment of USD 650 million in September 2024, in line with management's commitment to pay USD 1.3 billion dividend for the fiscal year 2024. I will hand over to Hazeem to summarize and conclude.
Hazeem Al Suwaidi
executiveThank you, Jan-Martin. On Slide 11, I would like to spend a moment on our growth agenda. As you are aware, we have announced several strategic investment projects at various stages of progress. I would like to explain how these projects fit together to form a comprehensive approach to creating value for Borouge shareholders. Aligned with our existing business model, our growth projects focuse on the production of differentiated and specialty polyolefins at scale. This is being executed through substantial organic capacity expansion, as well as the geographic diversification of our production footprint, creating proximity to our core markets. Last week, Borouge signed a project collaboration agreement which aims to establish a complex in China to produce 1.6 million tonnes of specialty polyolefins per annum, a project, which is currently at the feasibility stage and also [indiscernible] will further expand production capacity and enhance our access to the fastest-growing markets in the Asia Pacific region. Our flagship project. Borouge 4 is progressing well and is scheduled to be completed by Q4 2025. Once complete, it will increase our polyethylene production capacity by 28% or 1.4 million tonnes per annum. Borouge 4 is being based with next-generation Borstar technology and will further offer differentiated projects. Lastly, we continue to assess options for capacity optimizations within our existing assets. In this regard, we announced the AU2 [indiscernible] revamp which will contribute over 250 kilo tonnes of new capacity after full ramp-up by 2028. We are in advanced stages of assessing revamps across other assets and we'll provide those updates in due course. I'm confident that these investments, coupled with polyethylene's market recovery will position Borouge for significant value-accretive growth and exceptional shareholder returns. Allow me to summarize the second quarter and our outlook for the remainder of the year, we expect a stable macro environment and Borouge's core markets. in the second half of the year with expectations of Chinese demand increase following stimulus efforts, we intend to maintain high utilization rates to maximize our production volumes while keeping our asset base efficient and well maintained. The Borouge 3 plant has been moved from Q4 2024 to Q2 2025. Oil license prices are expected to remain stable and within [indiscernible] band for the rest of the year due to logistics bottlenecks and low operating rates and our addressable markets. The company will continue to maintain a strategic focus on high-value added products. Borouge is well positioned from an overall cost basis for the rest of 2024 and we continue to monitor the various geopolitical situations and to proactively manage and mitigate any [indiscernible] and impacts to our business. We expect to pay our 2024 interim dividend of $650 million in September. Finally, we wanted to invite you to our first Capital Markets Day in Abu Dhabi, on the 30th of October. Further details will be shared by the Investor Relations team. Now with that, we are pleased to take your questions.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] We will now take our first question from Ricardo Rezende from Morgan Stanley.
Ricardo Nasser de Rezende Filho
analystI guess the first question is to Hasan. We've seen another quarter where utilization rates have been very strong and above 100%. So I just wanted to check whether those rates are sustainable and we should continue to assume that rates to be above 100%? Or there might be even a chance that you announced that your capacity is actually higher than what we assume in the current moment? And then 2 follow-up questions that I have on the new projects. The first one in the Chinese cracker, would you be able to give us some color on the breakdown between the final product on polyethylene and polypropylene? And the final question on the issue of revamp [indiscernible] studies?
Hasan Karam
executiveThank you, also the first part from the utilization point of view, we are the Borouge, an operation, we have a very clear liability program strategy. We are sustaining the high utilization and I'm confident also in the 2024 on this great sort of reliability and a [indiscernible] to the plant, we will continue the highest transition. At the same time, we did some sort of the detailed due diligence for our proponents of our industries around. And we found that the cracker in the industrial units will sustain or the high utilization this year and Borouge.
Hazeem Al Suwaidi
executiveI can take the questions on -- on a breakdown on the announcement we made in China. So, I would like to just give a brief on this project. As we have been continuously communicated -- our growth strategy in Borouge will always be value accretive to the business. Beside, Borouge 4 getting closer and closer. The Borouge 4 mega project 70% over completed now, and it's due on Q4 2025. We have been -- as we have communicated, we have been evaluating very carefully options and accessing a key markets in our international growth that has been mandated by our Board. And therefore, we have been assessing different options and giving our long track record, our successful long track record in China, in particular, with the great technology that we have together from Borealis, our Borstar technology, we will make sure the products mix that will be produced in this project, it gives us the highest premium. I understand the dynamics and the challenges around China, but we see China as a great opportunity for us. China for us has been great in terms also market size. It's a key market, and we see there are still a lot of great opportunities for future growth. China represents 40% in total of polyolefins globally in demand. And therefore, we as Borouge -- we are well positioned in key specific applications to grow further with our partners in China. And therefore, the announcements of $1.6 million has been evaluated very carefully. We are at an advanced stage for our visibility study. And we will be communicating more details of this project in due time.
Operator
operatorWe will now take our next question from Faisal Azmeh from Goldman Sachs.
Faisal Al Azmeh
analystMaybe just to follow up on the project in China. I guess maybe, obviously, we've seen significant capacity additions in the market over there and a slowdown generally in demand and consumption as the country tackles different issues related to economy. I guess maybe the question that I have is, at this stage, do you still see direction of the kind of the -- Hello. Can you hear me?
Hazeem Al Suwaidi
executiveYes. Go ahead, if you can just speak up just...
Faisal Al Azmeh
analystYes. So I was just saying that effectively, do you still see China as a as a good place to place more capital in the long term versus what you could have potentially here or maybe, for example, in other cost advantageous market like the U.S. That's my first question. And then my second question relates to the delay in the outage or the shutdown that you're planning in Q4. You've mentioned $20 million to $50 million of EBITDA. So maybe you can talk a bit about that because that wasn't very clear to me in terms of what that $20 million to $50 million EBITDA mean.
Hazeem Al Suwaidi
executiveI just maybe could comment on China, then you can -- and also elaborate further also on Borouge 3 as well. As I said, for us, at Borouge, we have been very actively developing our capabilities in terms of -- together with the market in China. China represents 40% of the global demand would come from polyolefins, we have been also I would say, realizing premium in our products in China with clearly -- also differentiated products that we continue to sell in China. Therefore, these projects, as I said, we will be communicating more details. However, we understand the challenges and certain, I would say, let me put it that way, polymer types and so on. However, in Borouge we'll make sure that as we are going through a visibility study, this project really make a clear value. And that's part of our operating model at Borouge is ensuring that we bring a clear tangible value accretive to our shareholders. So we will be providing more details. We have -- besides, I would say, all -- around all the challenges issues that we hear on macro level and so on in China, we see the polyethylene business and particularly with our technology, the Borouge stop technology we have in a very specific, I would say, specific applications we see clear value for long term for our shareholders, and we will be providing more detailed design.
Rainer Hoefling
executiveAnd if I may comment quickly on your question with respect to the clarification of the impact of the Borouge 3 turnaround move. So in essence, we have been looking at the optimal timing for the turnaround to happen. We will have 2 effects. The one effect is the pure move effect of the 320 kt, which would have been in '24 into '25. In addition, supporting the decision to optimize, we found that we can optimize the feedstock supply. And by this generate an EBITDA, an additional EBITDA above our plan in the range of USD 20 million to USD 40 million. This together has then taken the basis for our decision to optimize and move the turnaround into 2025.
Hazeem Al Suwaidi
executiveJust to also elaborate on Borouge 3, I think Mr. Hasan wanted to ask something, has been us for us. Part of our accelerate for growth journey also in Borouge maximizing unlocking value across all value chain. And we have assessed the situation for Borouge 3 postponements, and we believe we are unlocking value within this decision, ensuring the, of course, the safety and reliability of our operations and ensure that we continue full utilization for this year, and therefore, also not bringing just unlocking value for this year but also for next year given the alignments on feedstock and so on. Mr.Hasan, maybee you want to elaborate?
Hasan Karam
executiveYes. So as you mentioned, I said we have an operation, we unlocked the value by looking to the high utilization this year in 2024, and that was deciding after the very due diligence and the assessment for postponement of the turnaround to Q2 2025, and that's reflected in creating a value of USD 20 million to USD 40 million extra in terms of the EBITDA. That give us the clear mindset that will not keep any stone un-flipped, looking to all the aspects in order to create more value to our shareholders [indiscernible].
Hazeem Al Suwaidi
executiveAnd we are expecting to have a history record of production this year toward the year-end [Foreign Language]
Operator
operatorWe will now take our next question from Prateek Bhatnagar from HSBC.
Prateek Bhatnagar
analystI have 2. The first is that we are seeing sales rates increasing in the industry, but it hasn't impacted you from now selling and distribution expenses are flat year-on-year. So how you guys are managing it and whether we should expect an increase in these expenses with a delay for you? That's the first question. The second question is on the B4, in terms of CapEx costs. Is it still tracking your initial estimate of $6.5 million? Could you give some color? And when you say that the plant will start by the end of 2025, or complete by the end of 2025, do you mean mechanical completion or commercial operations will begin by the end of 2025? Could you give any details around that?
Hazeem Al Suwaidi
executiveSo maybe just to reflect also on your first questions on logistics. We have clearly also a focused working team around ensuring that we have a clear, strong cost controlling on our logistical variable costs that has been clearly established a few years ago with a clear focus that we need to make sure that our costs are also very much controlled. And you can see that and that reflecting in our EBITDA margins by Q2, 41%, and that's cost discipline, across all the elements that clearly been evidence in Borouge, one of the areas that we have been focusing on our logistical cost. And with all the, let's say, the funds also geopolitical situations and challenges we're going through with the logistics. The team has truly managed it very, very well. So we will maintain. Of course, I mean, we have seen also different challenges when it comes to also ensuring that our sea shipping shipments on time and deliveries and therefore, also, I want Rainer to give comments on this, but it's truly -- it's under control by the team.
Rainer Hoefling
executivePerhaps, very short comment but so far it is under control. Of course, we are a bit impacted more towards the best when we talk shipments to Latin America, Europe, Turkey. So we are reshifting volumes a bit more to the East Asia, North and the Asia South region to get the volume flow also under control. So with this, we are targeting quite good sales volumes also towards the second half of the year, but the second quarter was already a testament that we can move the volume. So, so far, so good.
Jan-Martin Nufer
executiveAnd maybe wrapping up from my side, and then leading into your question, reflective of the Borouge 4 status. Costs indeed are well under control, which is a testimony also to our ability to have the largest part of the outstanding effects from the value enhancement program in the previous year to be transpired into 2024. So we're working hard on that. On the question in respect to Borouge 4, with a now completion status of roughly 70% achieved. We have good visibility on the project, both in terms of a, cost, but also on a time line basis. So indeed, as you mentioned, we have given some indications around the CapEx brackets, and we're in within that CapEx bracket that we have been communicating before. So from that perspective, I can confirm that this is so far well on track. And from the completion time, we're expecting to meet the completion tests end of 2025 beginning into 2026, which is also in line with what we have been communicating earlier. That will also stipulate then the next considerations around the Borouge 4 recontribution into Borouge plc.
Hazeem Al Suwaidi
executiveSo Borouge 4 is really on -- well on track, more than 70%. We as we communicated always that this is our main mega project that has also the latest technology of Borealis, is -- clearly that will give us an opportunity to produce specialty products, for Borouge 4. And that is very key for us and bringing also more value added premium in our product mix and so forth. Mechanical completions has different packages, XLPE, polyolefins, cracker and [indiscernible] and so on. This is a mega project, and [Foreign Language] will be completed, [indiscernible] mechanical in Q4 2025.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Shadab Ashfaq from Al Ramz.
Shadab Ashfaq
analystCongratulations for a good result. I have a couple of questions. First, like we have noticed that there is a slight improvement in the benchmark price in quarter 2, but premia down for both the polyethylene and polypropylene. And with decrease to overall unchanged selling price for Borouge. So why are the fee coming down for both the products? And what premia do you expect in the second half of the year?
Rainer Hoefling
executiveSo if I understood your question right, you're saying why is the premia coming down a bit in quarter 2 versus quarter 1? I mean the main reason for this is in Quarter 1, right, we had a turnaround, and there was also quite some less volume to be sold. So we were very selective on our volume where to place and in which segments we place it. And with this, we could bring the polyethylene prices, the Borouge prices move up in the market, which ended in quite significant premium specifically, you have seen this on polypropylene, either because major volume was on polypropylene. If you look at quarter-on-quarter, in polypropylene, we sold more 25% more. So we went also then into our normal other markets. And then the premium came down a little bit. But it is still in the range of the cycle guidance in a downside, which is a very good achievement. If you're looking forward on the premium -- I mean, we reiterate our premium guidance over the cycle. It's a cyclical business. It could come down a little bit. Now in quarter 3, the reason is due to the logistic constraints, but I said a bit more to the West, we need to go a little bit more to the East, selling a bit more in Asia, North and Asia South. Prices are a little bit lower versus the benchmark prices, but the margins are really good. So we will deliver still a substantial margin. Quarter 4 will go up again. So over the years, I think we will be around the benchmark price guideline what we have. And overall price levels, we see EBITDA in a very narrow band, right. There are 3 elements into this. The one is we see feedstock or oil prices fluctuating around the 80% coming up, a little bit below 80%. Naphtha will remain on a reasonable level, which triggers then difficulties for marginal producers. So, what we see is that the production rates, specifically on naphtha-based producers, but also PDH-based producers, also in China came down significantly, while there was in 2001, still around 95%, it's now more to 75%. And we think that will remain, we will see in Japan. They have problems, Korea. They have problems operating rates will be below and with a bit these logistic constraints for what we see high freight cost from the East to the West. Goods from the West from our side to the East, the freight costs remain on a relatively low level. So this will keep the prices in a relatively narrow band towards the end of the year.
Shadab Ashfaq
analystAnd I have another question on like Borouge has a contract with ADNOC for the exclusion of the feedstock and the existing agreement is due for repricing in 2027. Could you provide some function on this? And do we expect a revision in feedstock prices to be more in line with the market price and does the merger with Borealis have any impact on this agreement?
Jan-Martin Nufer
executiveOkay. Thanks for the question. Let me elaborate on that if we understand correctly, it's about the feedstock price reset mechanism, which was communicated during the IPO phase, so indeed, we have the following mechanism to recap, which is at the end of 2027, the feedstock price mechanism will reset for Borouge plc. Borouge 4 obviously will be on the new feedstock price from the start. With that mechanism, we have essentially the same structure. It's just on a new basis. This will keep and that was also the main point that was communicated that will still keep us comfortably in the first cost quartile in respect to the feedstock costs. In addition, we will have then at that [extra] time also pretty much the full impact from Borouge 4. And as Hazeem has been pointing out, that will allow us then here also deploy the new product slate based on the Borstar third-generation technology.
Rainer Hoefling
executiveAnd perhaps very briefly also on the premium side that I would like also to highlight that based on the differentiation, but also on the innovation capability, what we have, what we think that we can clearly reiterate the premium guidance and what we have. So we launched last year, 8 products. This year, we launched 7 products. We will have the highest innovation value, which measures additional margins ever in history of Borouge. And just to give you perhaps a few examples, but also on the cyclical side here, this recycling mix, we launched projects like Pellets, which are produced in the UAE at Union Pipe, and we are using that on Borouge side, which is 100% recycling. We launched a new [indiscernible] grade, which will right ensure us that we can mix recycling material with it and then keeping properties high. [indiscernible] launched a new PB infrastructure grade for hot and cold water, which is used in the key plant clinic in Abu Dhabi, for example, or in-door Stadium in Singapore. In XLPE, we launched a new grade submarine, we launched a new health care grade this year. So there's a number of things going on, which will keep also our premium on a decent level.
Operator
operatorWe now have a follow-up question from Prateek from HSBC.
Prateek Bhatnagar
analystI just have to -- the first, I just wanted to confirm whether you said that the B4 plant will get the feedstock at higher prices from the start of operation. So from 2026, it will be paying higher feedstock prices? Is that right?
Jan-Martin Nufer
executiveYes, that's correct. That was communicated from the beginning. So Borouge 4, the Borouge 4 plan is based on already the new feedstock price.
Prateek Bhatnagar
analystOkay. Just for modeling, could you also help us with -- at what operating rates did OCU operate in quarter 2?
Rainer Hoefling
executiveWhich one?
Jan-Martin Nufer
executiveOperating rates for OCU was the question.
Hazeem Al Suwaidi
executiveMr. Hasan?
Hasan Karam
executiveYes. I think the OCU was a great reliability. We are at maximum capacity with OCU. Also, we are balancing sometimes with our [indiscernible] and our sister company. But from a reliability point of view, OCU is real and we are maximizing to the higher capacity.
Operator
operatorWe have no further questions in the queue at this time. So that concludes the Q&A session on today's call. I'll now hand back over to the management team's closing remarks.
Hazeem Al Suwaidi
executiveI just want to mention that our Borouge's Capital Market Day, it's now set for 30th of October. We, as a management, invite you in person to meet you. And we'll be looking forward to see you [Foreign Language] in Abu Dhabi and engage more in-person and we'll be happy also to update you more when we see each other [Foreign Language] in Market and Borouge Capital Day. Thank you.
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