Brambles Limited (BXB) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 12, 2024

Australian Securities Exchange AU Industrials Commercial Services and Supplies investor_day 467 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Raluca Chiriacescu

executive
#1

[Audio Gap] 2024 Investor Day. I am Raluca Chiriacescu, Vice President of Investor Relations here at Brambles. We are delighted that you can join us, be it here in the room in San Antonio or virtually via our webcast. Before we start, I will cover off a few housekeeping items for those of you here in the room. Firstly, I would like to start with the evacuation plan in case of an emergency. As you can see on this slide, the exits are behind you. Once you are outside, cross the courtyard and turn right and then walk along the river walk until you get to the amphitheater, which is just in front of the hotel. You'll be pleased to know you won't be sitting here for 8 hours straight. We will be breaking for morning tea, lunch and afternoon tea. And if you didn't get a chance to see the display room last night, this is just to the left of the entrance of this room. Please take a moment to engage with our teams who will be showcasing our products, digital solutions and sustainability program. So turning to the agenda for the day. Our CEO, Graham Chipchase; and CFO, Joaquin Gil, will kick things off with an update on our Shaping Our Future transformation program. The value ad is delivered to date and we'll continue delivering into the future. We will then hear from our Chief Digital and Strategy Officer, Helen Lane; and Matt Quinn, who runs our digital customer solutions. They will provide an update on our digital transformation before handing over to our Chief Operations Officer, Enrique Montañes Garcia, who will run us through all the work we've been doing across our global supply chain to improve network productivity. After lunch, our Chief Sustainability and Product Innovation Officer, Juan José Freijo, will talk about the value our world-leading sustainability program is delivering for our business and for our customers. And we will end the day with a presentation from our North American team, led by David Cuenca, CEO of North America. They will bring our transformation to life through the lens of their business. There will be time for Q&A following each presentation, and a final Q&A session at the end of the day with all of our presenters. Finally, as is our usual practice with financials, they're all in U.S. dollars. Growth rates are at constant FX rates, unless otherwise stated. And all forward-looking statements are subject to the disclaimer on Slide 5, which you can read at your leisure. So with that, I will hand over to our CEO, Graham Chipchase.

Graham Chipchase

executive
#2

Thanks, Raluca. Good morning, everyone. I'm glad to see that everyone's pretty alert despite the bar apparently having been hit quite hard last night. So well done those of you who've got [ close eye ] on constitutions. We will be there with you tonight, don't worry. So what I'm going to do is spend a bit of time on what we've been doing around transformation and what we intend to do going forward. And it's really -- I'm going to go over some of the slides reasonably quickly just because they are linked into what other people are going to say in more detail later in the day. So first of all, our purpose. This is something that we've been very clear about. It's about connecting people with life essentials every day. It's really driven by our share & reuse model, our circular model. But it really goes beyond that. So given our scale, our reach and our capabilities, we're forming networks between supply chain participants between retailers, manufacturers, the logistics companies, and that's what's supporting the efficient, reliable movement of goods. But our transformation has allowed us to fulfill this purpose better than before, and it's creating an opportunity for even more significant improvements to come, and we'll talk about that as we go through the day. I think the interesting thing is we're now creating networks of data. So it's not just around our assets. And we're linking information that was otherwise sitting in silos so that we can then give new insights and implement new solutions for customers. And I think that's the very exciting bit that's coming up in the future. So let's take a little while to look backwards. It feels a lot longer than just 3 years ago that we still launched Shaping Our Future. But if you remember, this was something that we felt we had a 2 track sort of phase of it. So the first bit was optimizing our current business so that we could then create sufficient value to invest in the more transformational elements of what we wanted to do. I'll take just a little bit of time talking about how that happened because Brambles had tried this before. Brambles had try this in 2015, 2016, and it failed. And I wanted to make sure that we as a group within the leadership team, spent some time working out why did it fail. And the reasons it failed were it was driven from the top down. It was very much led by consultants. And the people who are being asked to work on the transformation were doing it as part of their day jobs, and even worse when the transformation finished, those people got fired because there was nothing for them to do. So we spent quite a lot of time, probably 12 to 18 months, making sure that we were communicating and engaging what we're trying to do all the way through the company and took time to make sure that we've got some of our best people working full time on the various elements of the transformation. And I think that is one of the reasons why it's become so successful. We took a very disciplined approach to this multiyear program, and we set some quantifiable targets and initiatives to measure ourselves again. So again, I think that was pretty critical to the success of the program. We then made sure that we had some specific capabilities being built within the leadership team. So you can see the -- some of the people we put in place there around transformation, data and digital and customers. And every single initiative in that transformation program was sponsored or led by someone on the leadership team. So it had the bond from the very top, but it was also pushed down a long way through the organization. One of the things I think was important was the transparency and the accountability we had on the whole program. So we did put up the scorecard, and it's a very detailed scorecard. I'm not putting it up again because a, it's an eye chart and b, you all saw it about 3 weeks ago. But in summary, you can see that a lot of the initiatives are tracking on target or have already been delivered, and there are sort of 4 or 5 that are tracking below target. But the target is the end of next year, FY -- of this year, we're in that moment to FY '25. And what we'll do is when we get towards the end of this current fiscal year, we will then set out a new scorecard for the next set of initiatives, some of which we will talk about later today, and you'll see some of our sort of hopes and aspirations for the future in terms of metrics. You'll hear throughout today that we've made significant progress in the areas of customer experience, sustainability, digital, asset efficiency and network productivity as well as the financial performance, including improved cash generation. So I don't intend to do much more on that here. I think the thing that's really important to understand, and I think one of the things that I think has been really driven by this transformation as it's made the business a much more resilient business and more agile and that's creating positioning for future value creation. And I think that's where it's really interesting, where people say, well, look, this is what happened in the past isn't that going to happen again. And hopefully, through the course of today, you'll understand the things we've actually done to change the very fundamentals of the business. We're structurally much better because of that transformation. And I think in terms of setting us up for future growth, we're looking now more profitable volume growth in some of the areas we already operate in, in terms of white space, and we have lots of distinctive advantages there to take advantage of that white space. There's lots of scope for us to improve our operations and global supply chain networks, making it more efficient and more sustainable. And that's going to set the foundations that will change the way in which we run our own business and the way we partner with our customers. So the foundation for this next phase, they're built on our strengths and make use of the capabilities we've been putting in place, particularly in digital. So if we look at trying to be able to have partnerships now with customers built on a sort of seamless customer experience, the capability to form and use networks of data that only Brambles can and then also leadership on cost efficiency and regeneration. If you put all that together, that's going to consistently deliver our investment value proposition, which we'll talk about more later. So this is really talking about the digital foundations that we've put in place, and they have driven significant value already, and we think they're going to enable us to deliver significantly more in the future. Helen is going to talk about that a lot more later on. Customers are seeing the benefits of what we're doing already. So we are becoming easier to work with. We're delivering on some of the things that are important to them. We've got a much better understanding of pallet journeys and cycle times. So that's what's underpinning some of the asset efficiency benefits that you see. We've built a very strong digital function, so 450 people. But I think more importantly, we've also started spreading the data literacy through the organization. So 5,000 people have already been on a data literacy course. And what I find interesting and really positive is that they're using a lot of the tools that the digital function have developed as part of their day-to-day work now. So it's much more embedded in the business. We've built technological capabilities, and those are bringing benefits to every aspect of our business. And our success to date means that digital and asset digitization are going to play an increasingly important part of Brambles future. So we are very, very clear that, that is the case. However, the technology, the use cases, the investment levels and the returns, including Serialization+, which we'll talk about more later, are still developing. Things are still changing. Costs are coming down, the technology, the technology is changing. So we are going to be very disciplined about how fast we go and where we roll things out. One of the things I think we are absolutely committed to is that whatever investments we make in this area are not going to impact the delivery of the investor value proposition, but they will play an increasing part in helping us with our financial performance and underpinning it. But they'll also work with developing customer satisfaction, improving asset control, and the internal enhancements we want to make to productivity. So that's where we see this is going. So if I talk a little bit more about the improved business fundamentals, and when it comes to customers, we've built a culture that is much more curious about what the customer needs and wants, and we're much more committed to delivering that. And that is a fundamental change in Brambles. And when I first joined, it was very much the view that when customers had a question, it was, well, basically, you got no choice to suck it up, and that has completely changed. I think there's a lot of people now who really have always been customer-focused within Brambles, but they've not really been given the tools or the scope to be able to engage with customers and really act quickly to sort out our customers' problems. So we are listening more to them, and we're investing in the things that they want us to invest in. So we're making that customer interface when it comes to placing orders, we've put a lot of work on trying to improve that, and there's more work to be done. I think one of the things that's also interesting, if you look about the right-hand side of the slide, on your right-hand side is about the sales capability. And I know we'll talk a lot more about this when it comes to volumes going forward but we have strengthened our commercial capabilities. And I think what -- that's allowed us to do is to identify better the white space within specific market segments and understanding on a much more granular level, what customers want that we can target our offerings more appropriately. And I think that is going to make a difference when it comes to volume growth going forward. So next one is having looked at our operations. We have made improvements. We've made our service centers much more efficient and our asset control more robust. Enrique is going to talk a lot more about that later, so I'm not going to go through all of this. But I think it's very clear to us and hopefully to you too, that all that work and the investments we've made in terms of automation and the service centers, are absolutely improving productivity, but also improving safety and quality, which is another key part of about how we operate. When it comes to harmonizing and elevating service center standards as a bullet point a bit further down the page there, what that really means is we've actually put in place an operational excellence program, which is something that we haven't had for a long time. And that's things like implementing best practices around lean, daily management systems and 5S for those of you who sort of interested in that sort of operational thing, that is pretty important when it comes to getting out sustainable improvements in productivity. So there's still a long way to go on that. We've been focusing on one metric, which we are not going to publish for those of you who want to know about it, called the sort of mean time between failure. And what that means is it's measuring how long it takes by plant between stoppages because when we look at the causes of inefficiency, and the causes of accidents, it's often driven by when someone has to go into the line and stop a jam. So now that we're measuring that gap between stoppages and focusing on it, like all things that Brambles tends to do, if there's a metric and you can focus on it, we tend to try and blow the lights out. That's something we are really focusing on quite hard, and we have seen very good improvement in the last 12 months, and that is also helping us be confident about the ability to get more benefit out of productivity as well as reducing safety and improving quality. On the asset control side of this slide, we've made increasing use of technology to improve our results. So we're now tracking assets, pallets that would otherwise be lost. So we can go and recover them. We've established the called a digital control tower which provides visibility of pallet movements and supports the coordination of asset control resources and operations. So directing where trucks go to pick up pallets, which before, when I first started looking into this, in the U.K., I was fascinated to hear that we were using good old fashioned brain power and a spreadsheet to work out when we should send a truck to go and pick up pallets at a small retailer. And 1 in every 5 visits when they went, there was no pallets to pick up. So that's the 20% -- you can stop that immediate 20% improvement in productivity. So we actually engaged with I think that really, for me, was a light bulb moment in terms of what data can do for our business. I was -- had a presentation from a company who were working from Cambridge, but working with the taxi company in Lisbon, which was sort of run by the town. And this company, the company came which have developed some software to tell a taxi driver, whether on a Saturday night, when he takes someone out from the center of Lisbon, out into the outskirt, whether it's worth him waiting for a return fare whether he should come back and get another fare going out. And that's sort of exactly the same sort of algorithms that were driving this inefficiency and when our pallet drivers were going out to pick up pallets. So we worked with this company, and that was the germination of many of the things that we're now seeing real benefits from is using technology to do something that's actually quite a simple low-tech job, but making it much more efficient. We're also setting up things like account health tour. So what that is, is again, it's a piece of technology and algorithms with some machine learning, which monitors our customers and give them warnings about where maybe they're building up too many pallets or where there's a higher loss rate than we would expect. And therefore, we can work with them proactively, which means they don't get charged loss equipment charges or fees and we get the pallets back quicker. So it's a win-win. And those are things that are now in place and being rolled out across the company. And these are some of the things that give me confidence. I know Joaquin's going to talk about this in a lot more detail that the asset efficiency benefits we're seeing already are sustainable and will continue to help us going through the future years. So everything in everything we do, we're trying to make sure we have a positive impact on our customers, our colleagues, environment, our communities and, of course, our shareholders. Each of those groups of people have benefited tangibly from what we've done through shaping our future in the last 3 years. If you look on the left-hand side, over with the customers, you can see some of the metrics have improved significantly. And again, there's been a lot of work, but also it's about focusing on the fundamentals. We think there's still a lot more we can do here and need to do here. We've had a major focus on the work environment. Those of you who've been run at over centers before, it's a tough place to work. We've put a lot of work effort into that. We can see the benefits now coming up through staff engagement. We're trying to improve the diversity, both within our [ general ] population, but also within those plants. And there's been a lot of external recognition for our efforts. So getting global top employer is a really impressive thing to do. And while we've always been a sustainable business, we're now more sustainable than we've ever been. And again, you can see the statistics there. I won't steal from JJ's thunder, but we've had another fantastic year in terms of actual achievements. I think what's really important now is we've bought the benefits of sustainability and what we're doing, we brought the benefits of that to our customers. So this is, I think, really important going forward because more and more of our customers and our customers' customers, so that the retailers are increasingly wanting to show their sustainability credentials and their sustainability performance to consumers or to regulators. And we're in a position now where because -- and particularly this is driven by Australian governance and regulation where you cannot make claims about sustainability without it being documented and audited, we can go to our customers and say, if you use one of our pallets, your carbon footprint is this. This is the tons of carbon dioxide emissions you have saved and we can give them that certificate, which they can then use, but also it creates a real competitive advantage because our competitors cannot do that at the moment. For our shareholders, we're delivering, too. I take good agree. You can see the great results there. The 10% plus in terms of value creation. That's obviously the definition we're using. Just for those who want to be more normal in terms of definition. Our total shareholder return since the last Investor Day in 2021 has gone up 75%. So I'm very proud of what we've done, but I'm very proud of and excited about what we can do. So I'm going to talk a little bit about the vision now. I'm going to shamelessly steal from Helen who came up with this great phrase, which I really love, which is we didn't come this far just to come this far. And I think that's really where we are. We've just had a great few years but there's still so much more we can do. And I think we're all very excited within the company about now we can really push on from the last few years of developing a lot of the things that we're now using every day. So we've set the foundations for a digitally enabled business. We've got now a bold vision for the Brambles of the future, which teams will talk to you now about for the rest of the day. And it's going to really set the pace for us for the next 5 years, positioning us as global leaders in supply chain efficiency, resilience and sustainability. There are 4 pillars you can see there in the circle. We've got ambitious outcomes, which I'll talk a little bit more about over the next few slides that define our success. They mutually reinforce each other and they're going to be the focus of what -- or the change work we want to do over the next couple of years. It's not when you read them. I mean, these are things we've been talking about for ages. So this is not really a big change of direction. It's very consistent, but we can now be a little bit more specific about what the business will look like in the future as a result of these things. So if we start off with the customers, if we deepen our relationships with new and existing customers, which we think we can because of all the work we're putting into customer experience. We're going to end up serving more customers, and will develop and have access to more data. So if we can then link the data between the participants in the whole supply chain by illuminating global supply networks, so we moving into the second quadrant there. That's going to develop new insights, new solutions that's going to unlock value for us and for our customers. By doing that, we're going to continuously improve the efficiency of supply chains and cut waste. And that's going to lead us to a position where we're leading in value. We've got experience and we're servicing our customers. And if you put all that together, then of course, we're widening the competitive moat. The other thing that we're going to do is we're going to move into this now the top quadrant there, we're going to pioneer supply networks that are truly regenerative. I'll talk a little bit more about that later, but JJ will talk a lot more about it. That's really delivering a supply chain network that gives back more than it takes. So if you take the vision in the hole, this is going to deliver for customers, it's going to deliver for shareholders. It's going to deliver for the planet and for the communities we serve. And that's a really lovely vision to be able to deliver. So let me talk a little bit more about each of those quadrants. I'm not again going to go through all the details because I know a lot of them will be covered later. So when it comes to customers, it does start with the basics and delivering them flawlessly, which we have not done in the past. So it's about seamlessly onboarding customers and making those interactions, those of you who have played around with things like myCHEP, it's not easy. We're making it a lot easier, and we will be investing a fair bit in that to sort of make sure it's very, very easy and what the customers what they want. It's around reliable delivery and collection of pallets. So we're now looking at delivered in full on time and collected in full on time. We're getting -- we've made a great improvement over the last 12 months, but we really want to get to a position where it's sustainably world-class for our industry. We also need to have a pricing that our customers kind of understand because again, we all know the complaints about our invoices, but also that they can plan for. So the more we can give them visibility and forward visibility of pricing based on their behaviors then that's going to help them. It's going to help us. We've already made major improvements to things like on-time delivery, things like predictive orders and collections are being trialed as we speak and are working really well. So this is something we can be very confident we can roll out. You're going to hear from Helen shortly that we've begun trialing an effortless service offer in Chile. So what does that mean? It's about no declarations for example. So that is being trialed in Chile now, and it's built around our serialized pool. So I'm not going to take more of Helen's thunder, but again, that's something that could be really, really important for us going forward. And I think what's really nice is that if we get all this right, then our people who are currently spending a lot of time answering customer queries and getting into debate about losses and value of losses, they can spend more time building a much more value-based partnership with customers so that we can actually move the business and that relationship onwards. Our vision will revolutionize our pallet and container pooling model, and it's going beyond that because it's going to start pooling data as well. So we can then deliver insights and solutions that reduce waste in new cutting-edge ways. We're uniquely positioned to transform the end-to-end supply chain. Matt and Helen are going to talk a lot more about that, but this is a very, very important opportunity for us. And one, as I say, we are uniquely positioned to take advantage of. And the data that we get from increasingly digitizing our asset pool is going to be combined and supplemented with data from other sources. So you can imagine working with customers or some of the 3PLs who are going to start sharing our data as well. That is going to create an incredibly large, intricate network of proprietary data and insights that can't be replicated. And no one else is going to be able to do that. So if we can get this right, we're going to build a very, very deep competitive moat. So our goal at the moment is really to scale some of these solutions up. We're still in the early stages, and Matt will talk about that more. Going to more customers, and developing more general solutions that apply to whole categories or industries rather as an individual customer. And we know that the demand is there. Customers are talking to us about this, about how they can access it. A lot of them want to be involved, and we're kind of having to manage our resources to manage that velocity, but that's something that we think there's a huge amount of opportunity. It's already revealing opportunities to increase the value of our core business and also create a higher premium type of business. So if we get this right, I think there's ultimately again some way off, an opportunity to build a wholly -- it's completely new, high-margin, high-value, scalable business. If we go into the next quadrant around operational excellence. Making the world's supply chains more resilient and regenerative and providing a great service to our customers means our operations have to be as efficient and effective as possible. We're already driving standards within our businesses in terms of spreading best practice, but there are still a lot of benefits around productivity, quality and safety that we can deliver. But beyond this, I think the real opportunity to revolutionize the way our business works is to combine the benefits of a digitized pool and more cutting-edge automation technology. So again, we'll talk a bit more about this later, but this whole idea of a touchless plant is something that is out there, but it is beginning to be touchable now with using the unfortunate plan. But we can see that there's an opportunity, but we -- at the moment, we still need to have some of the technology to catch up, but I think it will come. And then that brings us a whole new level of productivity, quality and safety. The digitized pool it gives great opportunities not only for what we're doing with customers and asset efficiency, but it gives us an ability to have a very dynamic network and cycle optimization. But again, because of our scale and because of the technology, our competitors won't be able to do. And that gives us a real competitive advantage. And then Enrique is going to talk about more about that later. If we look at the regenerative supply network, for many years, sustainability has been the absolute core elements of our strategy, which what drives us, it's what engages many of our employees, and it's really our license to operate. And at the core, as you know, is our circular sustainable share and reuse business model. This has placed us in -- amongst the most sustainable companies in the world and that is recognized by lots of reputable external organizations like Dow Jones Sustainability Index, MSCI, Corporate Knights and most recently, Time magazine. But we now want to go beyond that. So rather than just delivering net 0 impact and into what's called the regenerative area of sustainability. And regeneration is really the sort of current frontier of ambition around sustainability. But we are already demonstrating that regeneration is possible. We have tangible projects already in place. There's one in Tabasco in Mexico, which JJ is going to talk about later. So we're already starting that journey. And there's still lovely and everyone thinks it's a good thing, but really the driver for us has always been around sustainability. There's a real business value for us in doing this. So let's start with customers. Our customers, as I said earlier, have got their own sustainability programs, and they've got their own pressures on demonstrating to regulators or consumers that they are sustainable. So we can help them with that, and that is now building a real differentiator between us and other poolers and other suppliers into our customers. Secondly, around people, it's a real magnet to attract and retain talent. If we look at the 450 people who joined our digital function, I met them a couple of years ago now. It was sort of interest, I didn't think we would hire -- we had to hire nearly 200 in the first year. I didn't think we'd be able to do that because, as you know, things like data analysts are very hot property. Why would they come to a company like Brambles which no one's ever heard of. So I went and talk to them, and we're getting people from really great companies are coming to join us, the Google, Diageo, really big companies. And I thought when I said to most of them, why becomes to join Brambles they would say, well, we really wanted to solve the nutty problems in the supply chain. That's why we're here, 9 out of 10 said because of your sustainability credentials. So -- and we are finding that across the piece now. When people come, we get really high-quality talent coming in for interview because of our sustainability credentials. So that is -- it's a very much an underplayed thing, but I tell you there's real value there. And finally, with things like governments, a lot of them are also now trying to have got their own sustainability targets and agendas. And we can work with them to help them with their agendas, but also the symbiotic relationship here, we already see that we're able, because we've got the credibility around sustainability to be involved in conversations very early on with policy setters around things like assets that can be reused and how they could be advocated and even mandated in law. We've seen that in Europe already in some countries. That obviously helps our business model. But we believe that ambition and leadership in sustainability is not only just the right thing to do, but it's also a fundamental component of the strength of our business going forward. So I want to talk a little bit about growth, volume growth. I think the exciting thing for us is that there's real opportunity within our current business, but also a significant opportunity to expand our reach within our existing markets. So some of them are up there. And it's going to categories and channels that we are already successful in today. And I think one of the things that we can do now, you can envisage things that were perhaps not considered to be addressable in the past might be more able for us to access because we've got much stronger asset control and better knowledge and insight because of what we're doing with digital. So there's a real opportunity here to grow in the white spaces. And that's going to be a major priority for us in the next few years. One of the things -- the things that help us, obviously, are we are the #1 pooler globally, with leading market share of more than 30% in every market, where at least 3x bigger than our next biggest competitor in each market. But more importantly, I think the real value in our offer to customers. And because that is demonstrated and being demonstrated, it gives us confidence that they're able to drive gradual conversion from other forms of pallets, other things to a blue pooled pallet over time in the high opportunity segments and some of them we've put out there. So how do we grow the business? I think the progress we've had so far and our ambitious plans all underpin how we think we can continue to gain new customers and to keep the ones that we've got and to make the relationship, the ones we've got better and create more value. We'll hear a bit more about what we're doing specifically here in the U.S. from the North American team later, so I'm not going to go into too much detail. But for me, it's really pretty easy. What we've got to do is you've got to make it easy for customers to choose us. And they've got to then see us as a partner of choice that they're enthusiastic about. And let's be clear, that hasn't always been the case. And I think we are beginning to really make a big change there, and that's going to be very, very important. We then need to make it easy for them to expand their business with us through collaboration and partnership, and that's moving us up almost the value chain within our customers. And I think some things we're doing with insights driven by data will help us get there. It's about meeting their expectations. I mean, we think that's a bit obvious, but that's very true, particularly around quality, delivery, all the things that we're working with the metrics we've got. But it's also about exceeding their expectations when it comes to things like services that add unrivaled value well beyond the actual intrinsic value of a pallet or a container. So these added insights and services that we think we can now provide. And it's about having operations that provide all of this with unrivaled efficiency, unparalleled value and minimal waste. So let's just move now on to putting all that together, what does it mean? So we are confirming our commitment to the investor value proposition, which you've seen before. It's absolutely centered on the circular share and reuse model that uses our network efficiency and advantage to get operational and asset efficiencies. So it takes you up to the top part of the chart there, which then in turn generates lots of free cash flow, which we can fund for growth and shareholder returns. As a result of all this, we're confirming again annual revenue growth mid-single digits, operating leverage, strong cash flow and Joaquin is going to talk a lot more about that in a minute. When it comes to growth, clearly, we'll look at both organic and inorganic options. But we've talked about this before. When it comes to inorganic, there's not much that's out there because of our market shares. If there is anything, then you would expect us to maintain the financial discipline that we have always exercised when it comes to those things. So -- but really, we're thinking more about investment in things that will either grow our volumes or grow the investments in things that plant automation that will deliver more productivity savings. Then if you go further on the chart with the free cash flow, we absolutely are committed to maintaining a strong balance sheet. I know there are a few bankers in the room. So yes, we are. We think that's both prudent, but obviously, it helps us support our investment-grade rating. We expect to deliver value for shareholders in excess of 10% per annum. So that's a slight tweak to before because I think we said about 10% before now. I was sort of saying it's 10% plus. And we're going to maintain the group ROCE broadly in line with FY '24 levels. I think this is demonstrated by our commitment to increase the dividend payout ratio and to launch the on-market share buyback, which we announced a few weeks ago. That's, I think, it would be, hopefully, for you supporting the fact that we are confident about the ability to generate free cash flow going forward. And I know Joaquin is going to talk a lot more about that. But for me, that's very, very important in terms of where we are now compared to where we were 3, 4 years ago. So with that, I will hand over to Joaquin, who's going to talk a lot more about our plans for achieving this chart. Thank you very much.

Joaquin Gil

executive
#3

Thanks, Graham, and good morning, everybody. For those I haven't had an opportunity to meet yet, my name is Joaquin Gil, and I'm the CFO of Brambles. So in the next half hour or so, I wanted to build on some of the comments that Graham made. In particular, give you a bit more detail of how we've delivered the 2021 investor value proposition and how we plan to continue to deliver it as we go forward. The key drivers of delivering the investor value proposition have been the transformation program, as Graham outlined, and also our continued investment in supply chain and digital initiatives. So starting with -- well, you said starting with -- let's give there a go. Yes. Starting with our financial performance since the last Investor Day. And as Graham outlined, if you look at the period FY '22 to FY '24, we exceeded the key components of our investor value proposition. And in particular, we delivered on the value creation target of plus 10% per annum. So what you can see in this chart is that not only have we delivered the investor value proposition, but across the 3 key metrics of sales revenue growth, underlying profit growth and free cash flow generation, you can see a step change versus previous prior 4-year performance. So that was FY '18 to FY '21. So what drove this? For me, it's the fundamental improvements we've made as part of the transformation to our business fundamentals, as Graham outlined. We've better aligned our commercial terms to cost to serve, and we've made significant improvements in network productivity and asset efficiency. This step change in financial performance, if you want my view, has been driven by 2 factors: One is the transformation program that Graham talked about. For me, what's been really different is that it galvanized the whole organization behind the transformation program. No matter who you were in the organization, you could have a great idea and you could sort of pitch it forward to the organization. And even better than that, you could take that great idea, and you could be involved in delivering it. And then the second key factor from my perspective has been those investments in supply chain and digital initiatives, which have provided financial benefits but also nonfinancial benefits, in particular, the customer experience improvement that Graham talked about. I think if you look at these metrics over the last -- or these 3 key metrics of sales revenue growth, underlying profit and free cash flow, let's look at them in a little bit more detail. And I think one thing, hopefully, everyone in the room will agree with me is the last 3 years have been anything but normal. And you can see that flow through to our revenue growth for the period of FY '22 to FY '24. Firstly, if you look at it from a pricing perspective, we had to recover the extraordinary increases in input costs and other cost to serve increases. And the key enablers of this, we're better aligning our commercial terms to that cost to serve, but also our financial discipline in making sure that we did recover those cost to serve increases. The operating environment also significantly impacted our volume growth. If you look at like-for-like growth, it fluctuated based on retailer and manufacturer inventory optimization levels. So we basically went from just in time to just in case, and now we're back at just in time. And then you look at the macroeconomic conditions, they also fluctuated. In places like the U.K. and some parts of Germany, for example, it's been pretty challenging. But then in other parts of Europe, what you've seen is strong growth like in Poland. Our net new business growth was also impacted by pallet availability challenges in FY '22 and FY '23. And our priority during that period was servicing our existing customers as opposed to chasing new business. And then just as pallet availability improved, we then went to record lows of whitewood pricing that impacted our ability to convert whitewood customers to pooled solutions. And then in the first half of FY '24, we saw some customers, particularly in the U.S., look to dual source, but this has now moderated. But I think what's really pleasing about this is despite these challenges, net new business over that period of FY '22 to FY '24 still grew by 1 percentage point, and overall group volumes were flat. And I'll cover this in a little bit more detail when we get to the outlook section, but we expect revenue growth to return to much more normalized levels as we go forward and be much more balanced between pricing and volume. As I touched on earlier, a key enabler of the step change in fundamentals has been our investment in supply chain and digital investments. So let's take a look at each of these in turn, starting with supply chain. In supply chain, we continue to invest in automation. And not only is that providing financial benefits roughly a 4- to 5-year payback, but it's also improved safety and the customer experience, including things like pallet quality and pallet availability. I was just talking about the inventory optimization that's occurred. And because of automation, we've been able to better deal with our volatility of return volumes. We've been able to repair and inspect those pellets at lower costs, and we've been able to return them to the market faster than we otherwise would have. Now in terms of our automation project, hindsight is a really wonderful thing. And I have to be honest, we got the metric for this on the transformation scorecard wrong. The metric you see, we're measuring the number of sites or lines that have end-to-end repair automation. So if you only do parts of the line or you do other automation, then it doesn't count on that metric. So I personally think in hindsight, a better way to look at this metric is the percentage of pallets that have gone down an automated line for repair or inspection. And if you look at that metric, in FY '21, we were at 57%. And in FY '24, we're at 65%. So I'm not sure if this is going to make my friends with Enrique, but I think great progress but a lot more still to do, and there's still a lot of opportunity, right? And you're going to hear about that from Enrique and Tyler later on today, both from a group and a North American perspective. In addition to this investment that we've made in automation, we've also been investing in safety, quality and plant maintenance. The other key enabler of our improved business fundamentals has been our digital investment. So the combination of the investments we've made in OpEx and CapEx have enabled us to better understand and recover our cost to serve, ensuring that trip revenue is captured correctly and helping enable the significant improvements in asset productivity that we've made. But for me, what's really exciting about our investment in digital is that it's not only delivering the benefits today, but it's creating the platform for future growth. And that's not just about continuing to roll out data analytics and continuous and targeted diagnostics, but it's also the potential benefits that might come from Serialization+ and digital customer solutions that Helen and Matt are going to talk to you more about. And as I just mentioned, one of the key enablers that digital has helped us with is a step change in our asset productivity or asset efficiency. So I'm not going to spend too much time on this chart if it's okay, because I feel like at our FY '24 results, we talked a lot about IPEP and also pooling CapEx to sales. But there are a couple of points that I wanted to make on the left-hand chart around IPEP. The first is, you can see that we've made a significant improvement in asset efficiency in FY '24 based both on our asset efficiency initiatives, but also the improvement in market conditions. And this has created a step change in reducing uncompensated losses and, therefore, significantly reduced our IPEP expense. So if you look at it from the perspective of IPEP to sales, a metric that I know many of you use, in FY '23, that was 4.7%, and that's dropped to 2.8% in FY '24. Now for me, if you look back historically, however, that 2.8% is in line with FY '19. So from my perspective, what I also take from this chart is that there's further opportunity in asset efficiency. Because if you look at that bar of FY '18, we were at 2.3%. The other thing I want to say, just for the absence of any doubt, and I know we covered this a lot at our FY '24 result, but I just feel the need to say it again. Our IPEP provision is based on a robust methodology based on the results of customer and retailer audits, hasn't changed for over 5 years. In fact, I think I said at the last time when I had a hair was when it changed. And it's also audited by our external auditors. Now in case any of you are suffering from that lag and once you finish reading the pack from today, if you refer to Appendix 9, which is Slide 42 of the FY '24 results presentation, there's more detail in that on IPEP. I think also, what you can see is that reduction in uncompensated losses in FY '24 had a material impact on reducing pooling CapEx to sales. And you can see that on the right-hand chart. The key drivers of this improvement in that pooling CapEx to sales ratio and in asset efficiency has been linking customer pricing to asset efficiency and the delivery of asset efficiency initiatives enabled by our digital investments. So let's look at these asset efficiency initiatives in a little bit more detail, and I've grouped them here in 3 broad buckets for you. So of the 16 million pallets recovered in FY '24, approximately 15 -- sorry, 50% of these were recovered from asset recovery initiatives. So this include initiatives, for example, that Graham talked about, about putting on the road smaller vehicles to collect pallets from low-volume locations or what we deem to be high-risk locations. We've also used, as Graham talked about, the insights from data analytics to better optimize our pallet collections. So what it was able to help us with is to say you're sending this truck to this location once a week and every week it comes back full. So actually, you should send a truck there more frequently. But on the flip side, you're sending this truck to this location once a week, and it's only ever 20% full so you can actually send that truck less frequently. The other thing that's improved our asset recovery has been our collaboration with recyclers. And you're going to hear more about that from Vishal later on today, but it's really assisted us in recovering pallets from high-risk locations. About 45% of that 16 million pallet improvement in FY '24 or recovery in FY '24 has come from go-to-market initiatives. And what do I mean by that term go-to-market? Well, it's basically how we improve, how we work with customers and retailers to collect pallets. This is the area that's delivered the biggest step change in pellet recovery year-on-year. We recovered an extra 4 million pallets through these initiatives in FY '23. What are some of the key initiatives in this area? The first one is more proactively engaging with our customers on their account health. We've built dashboards that alert our commercial and customer service teams to help them be able to work with customers to reduce losses and improve cycle times. This isn't only providing financial benefits to our customers and to us, but it's also enhancing our relationship with customers and helping to remove one of the pain points. Another key enabler has been rolling out and better collaboration with retailers and enhanced retailer commercial agreements. And again, Vishal will talk about this more later on today from a North American perspective. And one of the things I wanted to highlight on this chart is you can just see under the pictures that we've created a little bit of a maturity profile for you. And so what that shows you is that on both asset recovery and go-to-market initiatives, there's still plenty of headroom before we reach maturity. And for me, this is why we believe there's still further opportunity to come from asset efficiency. And lastly, if you look at pallet remanufacturing, it's delivered roughly 6% of the 16 million pallets recovered. And what we mean by pallet remanufacturing is that's how we reduce the amount of pallets that are scrapped and, therefore, needing to be replaced. So the key enabler of these 3 overarching asset efficiency initiatives have been our investment in additional asset protection resources. So what does that mean? That's more boots on the ground. Our addition of over 300 low volume recovery and high-risk lane recovery vehicles, and the investments that we've made in data analytics and digital tools such as autonomous tracking devices. Now while the past provides useful context to the future, I'm sure you're all much more interested in what does our future outlook look like, and why do we believe we can deliver the investor value proposition. Our medium-term outlook, as Graham covered, is to deliver our investor value proposition, and I'm going to take you through the key drivers of that delivery. I think one thing that's really worth noting is that how we're going to deliver the investor value proposition will be different in the next 4 years to what it was in the last 3 years. Revenue growth will be driven by that continued discipline in the recovery of cost to serve, but also volume growth. Operating leverage and margin expansion is going to come from network productivity improvements, asset efficiency, and cost discipline. And for some of you may have heard Graham called me old fashion the other day on a call around cost discipline. But -- and then that free cash flow generation is going to come by further efficiencies in capital investment. So the key enabler of the delivery of the investor proposition will continue to be those continued investments in supply chain and digital initiatives. And these investments not only deliver today, but they continue to build that long-term value and competitive advantage. So looking at the component of the investor value proposition in a little bit more detail, starting with revenue growth. As you can see from this chart, over the next 4 years, we expect revenue growth to be more in line with pre-COVID levels and more balance between volume and pricing. We expect like-for-like volume growth of 1 to 2 points and net new win volume growth of 1 to 2 points, and we expect price realization to be 2 to 3 points of growth, representing recovery of cost to serve. But a few items worth noting. Firstly, price realization will vary based on the cost to serve. Secondly, like-for-like volume growth will be based on macroeconomic conditions. But we believe, for example, we're more resilient than most businesses in this area as most of our customers are FMCG businesses supplying consumer staples. And then when we get to net new business, it will be driven by whitewood conversion. And while we expect to benefit from whitewood pricing returning to a more normalized level, the key driver of converting whitewood was driven by our continued investment in customer service, quality and innovation, and you're going to hear more about that from the North American team a little later. And we expect digital customer solutions, which Matt is going to talk about a little later to open up new volume opportunities and white space for us. So these elements combined in our view, we'll deliver a continued and sustainable competitive advantage. Now one question you may have is given this moderation in cost to serve and therefore pricing, how are you going to deliver that margin expansion? We're targeting 2 points or more of margin expansion by the end of FY '28 compared to FY '24. So let's look at that in a little bit more detail. The margin expansion is expected to come from operational and asset efficiency improvements. In particular, automation investments we've made and continue to make, combined with those operational excellence initiatives that Graham talked about, are expected to deliver 1 point or more of margin improvement by the end of FY '28. Through the continued asset efficiency improvements and in particular, reducing uncompensated losses, we're targeting 0.5 points or more of margin improvement in addition to the cash flow benefits they're going to provide. Lastly, we expect our rate of investments in overheads to moderate compared to the last 3 years as the business grows, but we will still continue to invest in transformation initiatives. So we're targeting 0.5 points or more margin improvement by the end of FY '28 from overhead productivity improvements. Looking at supply chain productivity in more detail. The key initiatives expected to deliver that 1 point or more margin improvement in FY '28, a continued plant automation, network optimization and pallet durability initiatives. And I'll only touch on these at a high level, and I'll let the expert Enrique take you through these in a little bit more detail later on. But from an automation perspective, as I mentioned, in FY '24, roughly 65% of inspections and repairs were done through automated lines. We're looking to increase this to 77% by the end of FY '28. We're also looking to focus on those continued improvement initiatives or operational excellence, as we call it internally, reducing things like line stoppages that Graham talked about and improving our process reliability. We also continue to work on pallet durability initiatives, and we're targeting a 300 to 400 basis point improvement in the damage rate by the end of FY '28 compared to FY '24. And just a reminder that a 100 basis point improvement in the damage rate equals a $12 million improvement in our underlying profit. Looking at asset efficiency. The targeted margin improvement of 0.5 points or more from asset efficiency by the end of FY '28 is expected to come from both existing and new asset efficiency initiatives. However, we expect that improvement to be weighted to initiatives that are already in place and that we're continuing to roll out, in essence, existing initiatives. As you saw in that earlier asset efficiency slide, we still have significant headroom or additional benefits available given maturity levels from asset recovery and those go-to-market initiatives. How are we going to achieve that? Well, the key area for me is rolling out best practice across our markets. And a really great example is the low volume recovery vehicles that we've talked a lot about so far. It started as a North American initiative. We piloted it. It was successful. We rolled it out to Europe. And now we're rolling it out to other markets. Similarly, and Helen is going to talk more about this later, with autonomous tracking devices. We tested them in one market that were successful. We rolled them out to other markets, and we're continuing to roll them out, giving us greater visibility and a better understanding of pallet movements. But in addition to this, we have a strong pipeline of new initiatives. So I talked about those customer dashboards that are going to our sales team and commercial teams. We're looking to digitize and automate those so that our customers and retailers would receive automatic alerts of anomalies or opportunities to improve their account health. Another initiative we have underway is to take all the data that we have to develop a digital representation of pallet flows to enable us to better understand and identify areas of leakage. This enhanced visibility of assets, along with new tools, the resources and initiatives already deployed will have the power to further enhance our capital efficiency across the business and potentially transform our operating model. These initiatives are expected to deliver a further reduction of 10 to 20 basis points in uncompensated losses compared to the FY '25 baseline and take IPEP as a percentage of sales to approximately 2% by the end of FY '28. So explaining that chart on the left-hand side in a little bit more detail. Hopefully, you're all familiar with this chart from our 2021 Investor Day. But we outlined there that we were looking to reduce uncompensated pallet losses by 30% by the end of FY '25. Well, we're now targeting a further 10 to 20 basis point improvement on this by the end of FY '28, taking uncompensated pallet losses to 50% to 60% of FY '21 by the end of FY '28. Or if I say that another way, this would result in uncompensated pallet losses being approximately 40% to 50% lower at the end of FY '28 than they were in FY '21. This reduction in uncompensated losses as well as our other asset efficiency initiatives are expected to further reduce the capital intensity of our business, with a target pooling CapEx to sales being 15% to 17% of sales at the end of FY '28 with approximately 2% to 4% volume growth. And you can see that on the right-hand side of the chart. One question you might have looking at that right-hand side chart is, well, why is your FY '28 target higher than what you've achieved in FY '24 and FY '25. But the reason for that is that FY '24 and FY '25 benefit from our CapEx holiday due to inventory optimization. Moving to nonpooling capital expenditure. For the next 4 years, we expect our nonpooling capital expenditure to be largely driven by supply chain investments. And on a yearly average basis, expect to continue to see a step up from our nonpooling investment levels in FY '22. With nonpooling capital expenditure expected to be in that range of $200 million to $300 million per annum in FY '26 to FY '28. And that excludes the investments in serialization, which I'll discuss in more detail shortly. But as you can see from the chart, the majority of the investments are in supply chain. And of those supply chain investments, roughly 40% will be in automation, 25% will be on other projects such as durability and sustainability and 35% will be in maintenance and safety. We also continue to invest in the capability of our IT network, infrastructure and systems. And in digital, we're going to continue to invest, in particular, in continuous and targeted diagnostics, as I outlined earlier. In the chart on this slide, it is important to note that we've excluded any serialization investment in FY '24 and the expected investments in FY '25 to ensure that the chart was comparable. So that's why we did it. So it might be slightly different to the numbers that you saw in our FY '24 results release and FY '25 considerations. But one thing I also want to be clear on is the reason that S+ -- or the Serialization+ future investments are not included, is that we're still determining what the cost and what the benefits from that investment will be. And I'll talk more about this a little later. So we do expect the investment in digital to increase above the amount shown on this slide, as we are confident in the value the continued asset digitization will bring in creating both value for our customers and also for Brambles. As you've seen through the presentation, digital has played a key role in enabling our value creation since the last Investor Day with both data analytics and asset digitization being a key enabler of that improvement in business fundamentals. As we go forward, we expect asset digitization to play an even more important role in that value creation. But what we're working through as an organization is the how. What's the right mix of those combination of smart and serialized assets? And as Graham said, how do we best leverage the different mix of technologies that are available. And just a quick reminder of what we mean by serializing the pool. Serializing a pool requires a unique identifier, in our case at the moment, that's QR tags to be placed on 100% of the pallets in the pool so that we can individually identify every pallet in the pool and track them as they enter and leave locations with reading infrastructure, primarily our service centers. What adds the plus to serialization to become Serialization+ is including a portion of smart pallets as we call it. So those pallets with autonomous tracking devices into that serialized pool. And it's this combination of smart and serialized pallets that provides us with the breadth and depth of visibility of the pool. Okay. Let me talk a little bit about some of the items that we're working through in our operational testing in the U.K. and the U.S. and the pilots in Chile, but Helen will talk more about this later on today. The first is the cost and mix of those autonomous tracking devices that would be required to roll out Serialization+ across our various markets. So we're testing a range of devices that vary widely in cost to determine what the ultimate mix is. So to give you an idea of that, there are some of these autonomous tracking devices that cost $60 a pop. There are others that cost $6 a pop. So you can imagine that's a huge variation in cost. And yes, the more expensive one has a lot more functionality than the $6 one. But the question here is, what's the right mix, how much functionality do you need of each? And that's what we're working through. Also, if you go to the room a little bit outside of here, you'll be able to see one of our pallets with a QR code on it -- with QR codes on it, right? But what we're testing is also what material should those QR codes be made of that are attached to our pallets. And depending on that material, the cost of that varies hugely. We're also testing a range of other -- a range of other options to use besides QR codes. So hence, you can see why the cost vary widely. But also depending on what you choose to attach to a pallet, then that impacts the service center equipment that will be required. And also different market conditions will impact not only how you serialize the pallet, but the service center equipment that's required. So for those of you who were outside yesterday, we're in Texas, it was hot, and it was humid, right? I arrived on Sunday night from London. Unfortunately, it's not hot or humid, but generally damp and wet, right? So hence, you can imagine our pallets in that environment and attaching QR codes are quite different. So for example, in the U.K., what we're testing is metal fasteners. We don't need to do that, let's say, in the U.S. or in Chile. The other thing is what we're doing has never been done before. So hence, we need to make sure that the equipment that we're going to use in our service centers can attach and read these unique identifiers at the pace we need them to do. And unfortunately, although I know Enrique would love this, all our service centers are not standard. They're not the same size. So again, we're working through what type of equipment do you need, what equipment we put in which service centers and which equipment do you need to fit in other service centers? And lastly, the spread and the scale of the markets we roll out to and the speed with which we roll out to will also impact the cost. But this isn't to say that we haven't learned a hell of a lot from the pilot in Chile. But it's just to say that, look, we need to do more operational testing in the U.K. and the U.S. to better understand the potential costs of rolling out Serialization+ in these markets. And we're also clear on the benefits from serializing the pool. This would include things like a better understanding of our cost to serve at a much more granular level, being able to monetize unauthorized reuse, improve both operational and asset efficiency and provide our customers with a more simplified model. So while I can't give you the exact benefit that we will deliver because we're working through that, obviously. I just wanted to put it in a little bit of context for you. For every 1 point improvement of growth, that serialization could help us in terms of revenue, that will deliver another $65 million in revenue per annum. For every 1 point, serialization could help us reduce that pooling CapEx to sales number, that would deliver $65 million in cash flow per annum. So hence, we're confident there's a significant prize here, we need to go after it, but we're just working on some of the operational items and exercising that financial discipline. But in addition to the potential financial benefits and Graham outlined this earlier, the range of nonfinancial benefits to improve the customer experience. It would give us the opportunity to simplify customer pricing. And we might be able to get to where we could be declaration free. So that's why the pilot in Chile is so important. It's to help us determine what's the quantum of value that Serialization+ can deliver. And we've only recently serialized the entire Chile pool. Hence, we need more time for these pallets to have done several cycles in the Chilean market to be able to quantify what the value we can realize from a serialized pool is. But you can expect us to continue our disciplined financial approach as we approach any investment in Serialization+. Hence, the hurdle rate we expect on investments in Serialization+ is a 15% ROCE return once the pool is fully serialized. We also, as Graham said don't expect any potential future S+ investments to impact the delivery of our investor value proposition. So with that, let me summarize our medium-term outlook. Starting with FY '25, and there's no change to the FY '25 guidance we gave at our FY '24 results release. So for FY '25, we expect sales revenue growth of 4% to 6%, underlying profit growth of 8% to 11% and free cash flow before dividends of between $750 million and $850 million. And then if we look at our FY '26 to FY '28 outlook, it's to continue to deliver our investor value proposition and that 10% value creation per annum, with mid-single digits revenue growth, high single digits underlying profit growth, and we expect free cash flow before dividends to be $750 million or more. So in summary, the structural improvements we've made to our business since FY '21 through our transformation program have ensured we're in a strong financial position. We've set the foundations for future growth, with ambitious plans for Brambles of the future while continuing to deliver our investor value proposition and maintain our disciplined approach to capital allocations. And I'll now hand over to Raluca for Q&A.

Raluca Chiriacescu

executive
#4

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Niraj-Samip Shah

analyst
#5

I'm Niraj-Samip Shah from Goldman Sachs. I have a couple of other questions on the white space on the slide. I think point #1 for the U.S., it looks like now with whitespace has increased pretty meaningfully since the last Investor Day. You talked about some more addressable opportunities. So you can elaborate on that. And then my second one on that slide was Germany. That addresses what were the white space is creating a highly developed market standards. So I just want to understand why that is?

Graham Chipchase

executive
#6

So I will take Germany and U.S. So Germany, it's a bit of an accident of history really. So what happened in the past was it was a higher-quality whitewood management exchange pool which was advocated by Aldi and Lidl basically. And that's what was going on. But about -- it's going to be 7 or 8 years ago now, probably about that time period. Aldi or Lidl, I forgot which we went first effectively started to advocate for blue pallets as well as this high-quality whitewood pallets. So we've started to get market share gains there. And that, obviously, as you then get in, you can start going through their supply network as well. So we've been increasing share, but there's still quite a long way to go, we think, but we can now -- we've now got full advocacy from both Aldi and Lidl in all of the regions because it's a bit north and south. So that -- we see that -- it had a little bit of a sort of slowing down through COVID, but we see that as an opportunity to keep on going forward.

Joaquin Gil

executive
#7

Yes. And then Niraj, when you look at the market share numbers that we've put up or the white space numbers, what we did was a review across all our markets to make sure we were consistent. So as an example, we looked at Europe, and we said, okay, that space is addressable for us so why we're saying it's not addressable in the U.S. as an example. So we've -- we're now on a consistent basis, measuring market share across all our markets.

Cameron McDonald

analyst
#8

Cameron McDonald from E&P. Well, can you just -- that financial framework of $750 million last year free cash flow target with all the other benefits you outlined, why isn't that number higher given you're saying uncompensated pallet losses are coming down to another 10% to 20%. You've got the margin expansion story, the efficiency gains that you're talking through. So I'm just -- why isn't that a larger number in terms of the base number as not even a stretch target?

Joaquin Gil

executive
#9

Yes. So a couple of things I'd point out. One is we said $750 million or more. And the other thing there, Cameron, is we're continuing to invest in the business. So we're setting up the business for future growth. And you saw in that nonpooling CapEx slide, that step-up in investment. Not only in FY '25, but from FY '26 to FY '28.

Matthew Ryan

analyst
#10

It's Matt Ryan from Barrenjoey. I want to ask a question on your pooling CapEx to sales ratios. I think you've given a FY '28 target of 15% to 17%. What's it going to be in '26 and '27? And just looking at that number, on an underlying basis, adjusting for the industry optimization that's happening this year, I think you're going to be at about 15%. So what actually takes you to a higher number, given everything that you've talked about around asset efficiencies and the like?

Joaquin Gil

executive
#11

Yes, you're a tough man, Matt. I thought you were going to say to my nice pack, lots more detail than I've ever had. Thank you. But look, I think, obviously, we only give guidance for 1 year out. So while we're giving you a bit of targets and, let's say, outlook, we're not going to get into guidance by year yet. So sorry about that one, Matt. And then I think if you look at exactly what you said, if you look at FY '24 as an example and you normalize CapEx to sales for that inventory optimization, you'd be at 15%, right? But volume was flat. So what we're saying is when you look out to that FY '28, we've incorporated 2% to 4% volume growth in that number. So obviously, as we grow, we need to invest in the pool.

Matthew Ryan

analyst
#12

Can I just follow up with the pallet you salvaged last year, so the $16 million, what have you assumed moving forward within that pooling CapEx to sales ratio salvage pellets?

Joaquin Gil

executive
#13

So we'll continue to see improvements through those asset recovery initiatives and go-to-market in the number of pallets that we salvage.

Reinhardt van der Walt

analyst
#14

Reinhardt from Bank of America. It's lovely slide back. I appreciate all the detail. Especially on the nonpooling CapEx number. And I mean, most of that looks like it's supply chain. You called out this some contingency in those numbers. Can I just check, is there any actual stage gating or contingency around that 200 to 300 largely being supply chain related? And can you just help us understand how much of that is actually sort of an ongoing sustaining CapEx number rather than just sort of an upfront transformation investment?

Joaquin Gil

executive
#15

Yes, great. And I think for me, it's more technology continues to change, and Enrique is going to take you through this later. So that's why there's a bit of a range. And then obviously, what you can see is in the Investor Day of 2021, we outlined our sort of supply chain investment. But then we found CapEx light, as I like to call it ways to deliver those same improvements. So we will continue that disciplined approach. And on any projects that we do, they were always stage gated based on implementation and the returns that we're seeing. In terms of what the sort of I guess, base rate of investment looks like. I think that's why we tried to split out that 40% is maintenance and safety. So that's, for me, the sort of investment you'd say is that stay in business for one of a better word. And then everything above that is what I'd say is transformational investments or returning investments.

Andre Fromyhr

analyst
#16

Andre Fromyhr from UBS. There are a couple of references early in your part of the pack, Graham, about value-based pricing, which sounds a little bit at odds with the move towards more cost to serve based pricing. Are you suggesting that the next few years could see opportunities for margin expansion through price for things other than the 2% to 3% cost to serve?

Graham Chipchase

executive
#17

Yes. So I think we use that value-based pricing quite broadly. So it is a combination of, I think, showing that if the cost -- if customers behave differently, and therefore, lower the cost to serve, they will get a different price. And if they conversely behave badly, they've got a higher price. So that's where -- so that is -- and therefore, it's on the value they're bringing to us. But the more technical definition, you're right, but I don't think that's within the current sort of 2 or 3 years. That's going much further out where I think we can around things like digital customer solutions that you hear about more, it should be a better margin business. And therefore, much more created on the value we're bringing to customers and the insights we're bringing. So we're using it quite broadly at that time.

Owen Birrell

analyst
#18

Owen Birrell from RBC. Just a quick question on the ROCE, effectively the target in the FY '28 outlook where you say it's going to be broadly in line with FY '24. I just want to understand how much of an accelerator or a hand break is that creating for your CapEx spend? You talk about this additional investment that's coming in. Now if you did no major additional investment, you probably see that ROCE improving based on the CapEx you've spent to date. So I'm just wondering, are you managing to that ROCE number? And how much of a, I guess, a hand back or an accelerator on your CapEx spend, is that creating?

Joaquin Gil

executive
#19

Look, we don't manage to that ROCE number. For us, ROCE is an outcome. Yes, we have hurdle rates, as you heard me talk about for investments. But we're in a great financial position. One of the things we're blessed with is a really strong balance sheet. So if there's a project that delivers the right returns, creates future value for our customers and for us, then we'll invest. And that's one of the reasons people have said, well, why isn't it growing ROCE, why isn't he doing X, Y and Z? Well, the answer to that is because we still want to be able to do what's right for the business and future growth.

Owen Birrell

analyst
#20

And sorry, just a follow-up question. I'm assuming that, that would be ex any acquisitions or transactions, M&A that you would see to achieve in the next few years?

Graham Chipchase

executive
#21

Yes, it is. But as we said -- as I said, there aren't many there. So there's not much to think about that. But yes, that would be excluding that.

James Wilson

analyst
#22

James Wilson from Jarden Australia here. Just -- are you able to sort of talk to us about the EBIT margin opportunities that you talked to in Slide 35 and 36, specifically, I guess that's ex potential volume growth and asset utilization driving operating leverage? And then also if you could just step us through sort of whether those network productivity drivers are also incremental to the 2% that you highlighted?

Joaquin Gil

executive
#23

I'm so sorry, I was just grabbing a slide pack. But I think your question was around supply chain margin improvements?

James Wilson

analyst
#24

Yes, where the operating leverage is sort of further upside.

Joaquin Gil

executive
#25

Look, I think what you can see in the pack or what I know you can see in the pack is, that's why we've tried to say 1 point or more. So it's not like that we're not looking for further opportunities. automation opportunities may change technology that allows us to do more. But that's why you'll notice we've sort of tried to set a minimum base and then we're looking to do more, not just in supply chain productivity but also in asset efficiency and overhead costs.

Anthony Moulder

analyst
#26

Anthony Moulder from Jefferies. So I wanted to get back to that white space opportunity, obviously in Slide 20. Are they prepared on the same basis as what we saw in the FY '21 investor pack because it looks like your market share has come off in key markets as a consequence of that very strong growth in white pallets? And the second component of the question is the value proposition of CHEP is well known. It's a strong value proposition, but it seems like pricing trumps the value proposition. With respect to the white pallet pricing, is that the key to getting greater growth? And then if that's the case, what does that say about the fundamentals of the value proposition of CHEP?

Graham Chipchase

executive
#27

So the market shares are on this new basis. That's why they've changed a bit. So as Joaquin said earlier on. So I've always been of the view that whitewood prices are fundamentally not the reason that people switch from whitewood to pooled. Never mind CHEP, it's pooled versus whitewood. Because it is fundamentally driven by largely SMEs deciding they want to sell their product more than 100 miles radius where they manufacture because if they have to go that far out, they have to go into modern supply chain. It has to be handled by forklift trucks. It has to be stacked. You could buy a high-grade whitewood pallet for sure, that would do the job, but then you the manufacturer have to go and collect it from the other side of the country. So that's what drives it now. Over the last couple of years, we have seen whitewood prices go down so low because of the destocking and all the rest of it and the moving lumber prices, that is not now the case. There is still an element of costs involved and people are still -- and we saw that a little bit in reverse, if you think back through '22 and '23, when there was a pallet shortage, we were desperately trying to get some of our customers on high-risk lanes to keep -- to go to whitewood and they wouldn't. They kept on however much we raise the NPD surcharge, they still want to use blue pallets. So there is an element where I think when it's either high risk or high cost to serve, people will use whitewood because it's just -- it's cheaper and they can afford to lose it. So that's where the cost element does come in. What we're seeing now, though, is that whitewood prices are beginning to increase. And I think that then helps that conversion back into a pooled solution. But I also think over the medium term, another factor is going to be sustainability because I do believe that the manufacturers are -- and if you think about the maturity of the argument, Australia and Europe are ahead of the U.S. in this, you don't hear it so much, but that is going to change. So manufacturers will be under pressure to show those coming up with a more sustainable solution because the retailers want to know they've got a more sustainable solution. And that is absolutely going to fall in our sort of sweet spot in terms of increasing the conversion. But over the next year or 2, I think it's about the whitewood price, and that fortunately, appears to be increasing in the U.S. I'm sure the U.S. team will talk about that more. So therefore, I think that then helps the conversion. But for me, fundamentally, it is not about whitewood price, it should be about the broader benefits that pooling brings over 1-way trips.

Joshua Freiman

analyst
#28

Josh Freiman from Investors Mutual. Just with respect to that points you guys made on the bottom of Slide 40, we expect any potential future Serialization+ investments not to impact delivery the investor value proposition. To my question, is that more around how you phase your CapEx spend past FY '25? Or is that with respect to realizing sort of uplift to outcomes in terms of margin? Are you expecting that sort of past FY '28? Or are you saying it's potential incremental uplift '25 through to 2028?

Graham Chipchase

executive
#29

I think it's a bit of both, to be honest. So in the shorter term, it's about the fact that investments will be phased, but then over the longer-term, it's about the -- we won't do it unless there are benefits that outweigh the investment costs and that should fit in.

Joaquin Gil

executive
#30

Yes. And I think the other thing I think about is, obviously, we're investing in automation equipment. When -- if we were to decide to roll out, let's say, in a market serialization, then that might replace other automated equipment we've had. So it's not necessarily a straight take whatever we're going to need to spend on serialization and add it to the nonpooling CapEx number. Does that help?

Andrew Scott

analyst
#31

Andrew Scott from Morgan Stanley. Pretty simple one for me. Just do you expect the targets you put out here today to be reflected in incentives for yourself and your team?

Unknown Executive

executive
#32

Yes.

Samuel Seow

analyst
#33

Sam from Citi. Just a quick question on free cash flow, just working through some of these numbers. It looks like you're forecasting a drag of about 2 percentage points in pooling CapEx, which is about $130 million in your numbers. And then higher nonpooling CapEx, $20 million to $30 million, but a flattish kind of $750 million free cash flow guide. So is it fair to say you're expecting the initiatives to be around that $150 million benefit?

Joaquin Gil

executive
#34

I think how I look at it as we've sort of given you the building blocks in the nicest sense, and then we've said $750 million plus. So for me, we've tried to give you bands. And depending on what you decide do you think our volume growth will be, our pricing will be, where you want to put that in the CapEx range, then it will produce a cash flow number. So more what we were trying to do was just help people anchor because one of the questions we've had a lot is, what does run rate look like in the business from a cash flow perspective? Is FY '24 and your FY '25 guidance and cash flow is sustainable. So that's the reason for putting that in if that's okay.

Samuel Seow

analyst
#35

Got it. That's helpful. And just a quick follow-up on the 16 million pallets that you salvage in FY '24. I think that was 10 million in FY '23. But you've kind of got obviously IPEP stepping up in '23 and then IPEP stepping down in FY '24. So just kind of trying to understand directionally how you've salvage more pallets and gone both ways?

Joaquin Gil

executive
#36

So I think a couple of things. You've got a very good memory and it was 10 million. So it's a 6 million improvement year-on-year. And then that's why we've been trying to make sure we're clear that when you see the improvements in uncompensated losses, that's about units. And then obviously, what's happening is as we're writing off the lost pallets, the value of those individual pallet is going up as obviously, you have lumber inflation and we're starting to peek. So that's why you don't get all the benefit of the reduction in uncompensated losses coming through to IPEP because you have a step-up in the value of the pellets that you're writing off.

Graham Chipchase

executive
#37

You know you wanted to talk about IPEP more than...

Joaquin Gil

executive
#38

I've lost my bet with Graham because I thought that would come from you, Anthony.

Julia Weng

analyst
#39

Julia Weng from Paradice Investments. So the question is on CapEx on IPEP. So given IPEP to sales was 2.3% in FY '18. But at that time, the CapEx of sales was 20%, and now you're targeting 15% to 17%. So that's a material reduction, why is IPEP -- why can't the IPEP to sales be lower than 2% in [ 2028 ]?

Joaquin Gil

executive
#40

Yes. Look, we're always #1 price for us as a business is to not lose pallets for both our customers and us. So it's not like we're not striving to do better. But based on the initiatives that we have today, that's a number that we feel comfortable with. Obviously, we're continuing to look for new initiatives every day. And I think as I touched on, that's what I love about the transformation program. Like every day, people are coming into thinking about new initiatives. So I had a quick peak on Monday. There's already 17 new initiatives for asset productivity that haven't made their way yet to a stage where we would implement. But that gives you a feel of how galvanized the organization is behind this and how we see the benefit to not only customers but also to Brambles.

Julia Weng

analyst
#41

Excellent. And then with the CapEx sales target of 15% to 17%. So I guess '24 -- sorry, '24 I guess there is some benefit from nonvolume growth. So if I were to compare like-for-like. So just back of the envelope. So you have 350 million pallets on issue. And so every 1% growth in volume and assuming pallet costs of roughly $30 is about $100 million CapEx? Yes. So...

Joaquin Gil

executive
#42

Yes, can I help you out? I think we're trying to get through...

Julia Weng

analyst
#43

So for like-for-like, we've assumed no volume growth, what's the pallets' sales?

Joaquin Gil

executive
#44

Yes. So how I look at it is in FY '24, we were at 13%. If you normalize that for the benefit from inventory optimization, it takes you to 15%. And then every 1 point of volume growth is roughly 1 point of CapEx to sales. So we're at 15% with 0 volume growth for one of a better word. And then as we've highlighted in that FY '28, we're saying we're assuming volume growth of 2% to 4%. So that shows you that there is still a significant improvement in pooling CapEx to sales as we go out to FY '28.

Andre Fromyhr

analyst
#45

Andre, UBS. Just a follow-up and what can I understand you don't really want to put numbers around the serialization CapEx yet for all the reasons you've laid out. But is it fair to say that the 750 plus free cash flow guidance must have something in there for Serialization+ investment over the next 3 years? And is a reasonable way to think about it from our perspective to take that targeted number of devices over that period that you've put in the pack and assume like an average price per device or something like that?

Joaquin Gil

executive
#46

I'd look at it a little bit differently. So if you look at our FY '25 outlook considerations. That does have an S+ number in it. And then as you look to FY '26 to FY '28, we don't have it in there. But what we're saying is even if we made that investment in serialization and we make that investment in serialization, we still expect to deliver $750 million at least of free cash flow generation.

James Wilson

analyst
#47

James Wilson from Jarden here again. Just on the volume side of things, can you talk to us maybe about how you're thinking around prioritizing the balance between organic volume growth and net new business wins, and maybe also with reference to what kind of disciplines you've put in your sales teams to try and achieve that?

Graham Chipchase

executive
#48

So the organic growth is sort of out of our control. It's now driven by macroeconomic. So it is -- that will be what it will be. When it comes to the net new business wins, there are a couple of things we want to -- we're obviously pushing very hard for people to go out and get conversion, but not at any price. So we do not want to repeat the mistakes of 2015, 2016 in the U.S., in particular, where they went for growth down loans, they didn't understand the cost to serve, and that gave us a big P&L problem. So I think the benefit now is a, everyone is better informed, but the data and the digital insights we're getting gives us much better idea around the cost to serve and the asset control means that we can go into some loans, which will perhaps things that we would have either had to have a very high price for or would have high losses. We're at much more confident and much more risk managed going into those loans. So they're being encouraged to look at that, but there is a very, very strong, robust process for large contracts. They've come up to the 2 of us. And we're always looking at the ROCE, looking at the retail and sales. We're looking at -- does it fit with our network and is it taking assets from surplus to places where we've got deficits, all those things is what we look at and is a very rigorous process all the way up through the organization. And we don't incentivize sales teams to go out and just get volume. It's all about making sure it's profitable volume.

Matthew Ryan

analyst
#49

Just had a follow-up, Matt Ryan from Barrenjoey. I just want to bring it back to the group EBIT guidance for high single digits. That's the same number that we've sort of been looking at in the last iterations of your sort of guidance statements. There's a lot of investment that's going on, in particular in digital. You've talked about a lot of initiatives that are going to pay off. So just trying to, I guess, relate all of the benefits to, I guess, staying at that high single-digit number. And just, I guess, maybe a little bit more specifically, are you sort of thinking that if all of the digital initiatives pay off, you sort of get to the high end of that range? Or do you sort of not know yet because you're still going through the process and potentially that range could be exceeded if the digital investments do pay off?

Graham Chipchase

executive
#50

Well, so the high single digits is driven off of the revenue line as well. So if the revenue line is 4 to 6, and we think what we're saying is we think most of that driver for margin expansion was driven by productivity basically. So if we're saying 1 or 2 percentage points of productivity, is what Joaquin went through, that gets you to the high single digits. The benefit if we're going to do more digitally -- we've already got the benefit from digital that's coming through the margin. So that helps sustain it. If we start seeing really big improvements in serializing our whole pool, then that might help us get a bit higher than that, but it's too -- I think it's far too early to sort of count on that at the moment.

Joaquin Gil

executive
#51

Yes. I think just in case I wasn't clear, we're talking here about the serialization investment. So the continuous and targeted diagnostic investment and also returns are included in that number, Matt. So we're only talking about the serialization piece here that we're working through.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#52

Question on serialization. I appreciate Helen is going to talk to this more. But other benefits that you're seeing since you started this still there when you've had greater reporting from customers within inventory days, and it seems like the reporting of customers through customers has improved a lot over the last 3 years. When you started this project, it didn't have that business didn't have that level of reporting accuracy. Do you still need serialization given that improvement in reporting from customers?

Graham Chipchase

executive
#53

Yes. I think perhaps let's leave this more to Helen. But I do think that some of the things that we would like to do require the pool to be serialized in some way or other. So to get rid of declarations, I think it would be great to actually -- so there's no cost from them or for us to do it. I think coming up with a more granular dynamic pricing model, you need to know -- have a better view about where were your pallets are. So those are things that we don't necessarily have to do serialization or Serialization+ to still get a lot of the benefits. And I think that's the balance we're trying to ensure that the investment in CD and TD, so the smart pallets in the book gives us lots of benefits as well. So it would be great if we can do the whole serialization because we do think there are fundamental customer benefits that will come from that. And because of the data we then get from serializing all the pool, the insights are being driven by algorithms. So algorithms give you better insights, the more volume of data you put through them. So if we can serialize a pool, we will get much better insights and no one else will be able to do it. And if they can do it, we're 3 or 4 times the size. So our insights will be much better. And that competitive will be much wider and deeper if we can do it. But at the same time, we're not going to do it just for the sake of doing it, there has to be a clear demonstration of value.

Peter Steyn

analyst
#54

Peter Steyn from Macquarie. Graham, just perhaps one from -- for you in the context of your Net Promoter Score, DIFOT improvement, customer engagement clearly a lot better. I'm curious about your confidence and you're right to play a bigger role in supply chain optimization in the concept with 3PLs, your customers, et cetera. What gives you confidence as you embark on that over the next few years? And what right do you have to win there?

Graham Chipchase

executive
#55

So I think there's a couple there some historical evidence and then there's the sort of the more theoretical future evidence. We started a few years ago, something called Zero Waste World. And that everyone at the time said you don't have the right to go off and engage, and this was about the ecosystem. So it was about talking to manufacturers, retailers and 3PLs around reducing waste in the supply chain. And the reason it works is that we don't go in there as the -- we are the thought leaders on this. We are the ones who know best. That is just -- it's not our cultural style anyway, but it's about saying we want to convene a group of people who can make a difference to things that really matter. And that worked really well. So I think that gave us a lot of confidence. If you go about it the right way, and we are uniquely positioned in terms of the end-to-end supply chain because our pallet is the one that's doing the journey through that. Provided we're prepared to share those insights in an ecosystem way, then I think -- and so we -- it's an old story about in the past, a lot of corporates want 100% of a pie. Now there's -- if there's a much bigger pie, you should be prepared to take a smaller slice of it because net-net, it's still a better thing than going for 100% of the smaller pie. That is I think where we're heading. This whole assist area of ecosystems and creating and realizing value by joint efforts, that is where I think we can play. We've had some evidence and it does work.

Peter Steyn

analyst
#56

May I ask a quick follow-up. In that context, in the fullness of time, presumably there's incremental technology investment, et cetera, et cetera, that lies before you. Do you partner or do you go ahead yourselves? There's obviously a lot of stuff that's already existing in the supply chain.

Graham Chipchase

executive
#57

So I think one of the lessons we've learned, I think it was very, very helpful. And again, I remember the conversations with some of the people in this room when I first started in 2017 about why you're spending so much money on Brambles digital as it was called then, all this money you're spending in California, what are you getting for it? We did that ourselves. I think there was some real value in our bricks, which is our sort of engine is very unique. We've had that checked and extended a few times. But in the future, we can't afford to do that. And it's not about the money even, it's about the pace. So technology is changing so much. We're now looking at partnering with more people. We took our board to California in June, and we spent some of that time actually talking to people whose jobs are to bring innovators and corporates together. So they make a business out of doing partnerships for other people. So we're deeply involved in that. And I think that's definitely the most cost-efficient and most agile way to go because, again, as you know, the technology is changing so quickly. You don't want to be working in a silo on technology that's out of date since you've done it. So much more partnering. Yes.

Raluca Chiriacescu

executive
#58

Great. I think we'll have to cut it there. Graham and Joaquin will be around at the end of the day for more Q&A as well as in the breaks. I might just give everyone some time out 20-minute morning tea break, and we'll come back in here at 20 to 11, please. Thank you. [Break]

Raluca Chiriacescu

executive
#59

You're good? Okay. Let's wait for everyone to be seated. Okay. Well, welcome back, everyone. Our next presentation will be from Helen Lane, our Chief Digital and Strategy Officer. Helen joined Brambles in 2003, and during her time at Brambles has held several leadership roles across finance, commercial, asset productivity and retail. Helen was appointed Vice President of our CHEP Northern European business in 2016, and since 2019 has been leading our digital transformation. Helen will be joined by Matt Quinn, who also coincidentally joined Brambles in 2003. Over the past year, Matt has been leading our efforts in developing new and innovative digital solutions for our customers. Prior to this, he was Vice President of Northern Europe and the General Manager of India. I will now hand over to Helen.

Helen Lane

executive
#60

Well, thank you, Raluca, and good morning, everybody. And today, I would like to share with you about how through investments in digital capability, in new visibility and new analytics we're transforming our organization. When I last presented to some of you in 2021, I said that every pallet can tell a story. Well, based on those stories, the Brambles of today is very different. Investments in digital have been a pivotal factor in the Brambles' performance over the last 3 years. Our ability to see deeper into our own supply chains and into our customers' networks has been greatly enhanced through the generation of new data. Importantly, there's a lot more to come. We are increasing the breadth of capabilities, such as those digital diagnostic tools, which have proven value. We are also expanding our operational testing and more pioneering capabilities such as serialization. And this moves us from sampling data to full pool visibility at the individual pallet level, helping us to further transform how we serve our customers, how we enable growth and how we become more efficient. And excitingly, we are now able to point these new and emerging capabilities at customer problems, giving information about the products on the pallet as well as the pallet itself. Our pallets not only move and handle goods, but can now also tell you about what's on them, where they've been, what environments they've experienced and over what time. This enables access to new customer solutions and also to new customers, reinventing ourselves as a digital customer solutions provider. Matt will take you through the opportunity here in a little more detail later. And before I go deeper into what we've achieved and what's coming next, I will start with the ambition of what a digitally enabled future can deliver for Brambles. The vision for our digitally enabled transformation is already being realized. We are now capturing far greater amounts of new data that power smarter, more sustainable supply chains. Digital capabilities are fundamental to the Brambles of the future that Graham described earlier. And that's in 3 key ways: Firstly, by developing and deploying our track and trace technology that make our pallets smart to capture new and unique data, illuminating even the darkest parts of supply chains; secondly, making data analytics are core competency of Brambles. That's about generating new insights from existing data and our new sources of growing data; and finally, leveraging these 2 new capabilities so that we can actually start to point these things at customer problems that go beyond pallet pooling. This is, for example, identifying lost products or damaged product rather than lost or damaged pallets. And there's a cumulative effect here. The more pallets we have talking to us and the more customers we have using our smart pallets, the more powerful the insights become. Our ability to address the causes of inefficiency in the end-to-end supply network increases, being greater value for customers, for Brambles and ultimately for the planet. As the largest pallet pooler in the world, we can create more insights, and this is a distinct source of competitive advantage. Equally important over the last few years is what we've done to develop our people. We have embedded the know-how and skills to understand insights and to act on them. And this lays the right foundations to sustain the change. Here's a short video that brings that vision to life. [Presentation]

Helen Lane

executive
#61

Well what I really like about that video is that real archive footage at the beginning. That reminds us all that Brambles has transformed supply chains before. And I think that gives us confidence that we can do it again. And we'll do that by combining the pooling of physical assets with the pooling of data assets. But how are we going about this? Well, together with our colleagues from BXB Digital, we established a digital function in 2021. And this was with the goal of strengthening decades of Brambles' supply chain expertise and scale, with track and trace technology and analytics capabilities. And since then, we've made significant progress. Here are some of the key highlights across people, technology and analytics. So our people now have new skills and there are new roles in the business that didn't exist for us just 3 years ago. We have roles such as data scientists, analytics translators, machine learning experts to name just a few. And to solve the unique opportunities across end-to-end supply chains, we're mixing -- a mix of IoT technology with the hardware, software and infrastructure to support it. Our smart pallets are scaling, and you can get a sense of that with a touchscreen display out in the breakout area, too. We have proprietary tracking devices on our pallets as well as our very own software, which can receive billions of pings from smart pallets and use the algorithms that we've developed to contextualize and prioritize those insights automatically. Our trackers are now coded to tell a distribution center from a retail store and to identify unexpected activity that may require some human intervention. Building this into our systems may sound relatively simple. But actually, this is an essential capability that we believe that we have that no one else does. This investment into people, technology and analytics, coupled with adapting to our many learnings has proven successful. So here's a summary of some of the Brambles achievements that we've helped to enable. Digital has been a key enabler in the Brambles' performance in 3 key ways. It's firstly in the execution of our service to our customers. Secondly, in creating new customer value. And thirdly, is in the productivity of our pallets. Let me walk you through a few examples here. Firstly, from a customer perspective. We're using our advanced analytics capabilities to predict and to automate customer orders and proactively correct customer transactions to make us easier to do business with. We aim to offer a seamless and effortless experience for our customers, and we're trialing a fully effortless offer in Chile as part of our serialization proof of concept. More to come on that later. But the idea here is that we no longer have to rely on customers, telling us where our pallets are -- or on the processes that we need to service them more effectively. This has the dual benefit of giving us more control of our pallets and giving our customers more time to focus on running their own businesses. From a productivity perspective, there's been 2 main areas of delivery. Firstly, we've helped to prevent around 16 million pallets from being lost in the last financial year. We've done this in several ways, notably through AI-driven analytics tools to direct our collection engine and through new customer account performance tools that better direct our frontline staff. These tools are not always reliant on smart pallets. We've been able to leverage new insights from applying new advanced analytics techniques on data that we actually already have. Smart pallets did also play a significant role. And our diagnostic tool that I will talk about later helped to identify areas of pallet leakage and uncompensated pallet reuse. The second main productivity benefit has been in our ability to optimize pricing through data-driven revenue management and to recover the cost of previously unseen pallet reuse. So what is our approach to applying these advanced analytics techniques and track and trace technology to enable impacts at the optimum cost. Well, as you'll see next, our experience and analysis has really indicated that we can maximize returns by layering together different technologies and methodologies. Okay. So we have 4 main track and trace technology approaches to make our pallets smart. On the left-hand side, you can see the approach we're taking using autonomous tracking methods. And what I mean by autonomous is those tracking devices that don't need readers to send us information. But they can use cellular data to send data feeds without any help from humans or from reading infrastructure. Clearly, these are more sophisticated trackers, which are very useful to us in the complex and changing supply chain networks, ones that we operate in. On the right-hand side, I show the methods we use to complement these more sophisticated tracking devices. These will need some sort of reading capability or infrastructure in order to send us data. For example, a camera for a QR code or a scanner for some RFID technologies. Let's start with the left with the 2 autonomous approaches. We've got targeted and continuous diagnostics. And the way I like to think about this is using a medical analogy. So targeted diagnostics is a little like going to the doctor. You've got a stomach ache and you think you might have an allergy. The doctor will run some tests. He will diagnose the problem and then advise you on the action you need to take. Continuous diagnostics, however, is a little bit more like wearing a smartwatch. You may not be aware of any specific health issues that you have, but the watch will give you continuous health metrics. And it might even highlight you something like an elevated heart rate that you didn't realize you had, so you could take action. Okay. So moving away from the medical analogies and back to the world of pallets. Targeted diagnostics, we already have a theory on something that we wish to prove or disprove. And we do this by injecting a small number of smart pallets into a specific channel. With continuous diagnostics though, we instead inject smart pallets across a proportion of the entire pool, and that's normally less than 1%. And we do that as a continuous sample scan. This way, we always have a small but representative part of our network tracked so that we can continually be spotting trends and getting ahead of problems. As you saw earlier, we have targeted diagnostics live in over 30 countries at any one time across the world. Continuous diagnostics is live in 5 markets, leveraging around 0.5 million smart assets. Through this perpetual scanning of our network, we've identified an additional 225 locations where our pallets flow that weren't on our database before. Now if we look at the right-hand side of the chart, this is when we then combine those autonomous methods with low-cost, low technology solutions such as QR codes on a high proportion of our stock. We also have the option to supplement our data with semi-autonomous devices such as BLE tags, and they are the types of tags that you might use to track your luggage or your keys. But these do require some sort of reading infrastructure, but they can be helpful for us to plug data gaps in some of the larger markets. And that's what we mean by hub and spoke. And these approaches are all powerful in their own rights, but our preference is to mix and layer them so that we have enough data for our needs at the optimum cost. Our end state is a mix of these methods in a single market in what we call Serialization+, the center circle that you can see here. As Joaquin mentioned, this mix and type of technology may change. We're continually taking on new learnings to inform our approach while also scanning the market for new and emerging technology. However, the technology requirements for us are quite unique, tracking unit loads through the end-to-end supply chain in the many environments on earth that our pallets encounter means that sometimes seemingly exciting new technologies are not always suitable for our needs. Critically, all of these technologies and methodologies are underpinned by our maturing advanced analytics capability, leveraging our existing data as well as turning the billions of new data feeds into actionable insights for our people. Here are some examples from across the business of what some of these examples have resulted in. Well, as this capability is now the new norm for us, there are countless examples from across the globe to choose from. And here are some that were generated through our analytics engine, but weren't reliant on investments in smart pallets. We simply put industrialized and intuitive tools in the hands of our Brambles employees who now have the know-how to act on the insights. These examples aim to give you a sense of the breadth and depth of this embedded digital capability. We continue to see multiple examples across the world every day of how our teams are using these digital tools to unlock greater value for our business and for our customers. These tools are helping us to improve our productivity to discover unauthorized pallet flows and direct our pallet collection engine to be as effective as possible. We can now find out quite a lot from behind the comfort of our own desks, and that means we can be quite wise about where we send our resources, whether that be trucks or people. And here is the first of our case studies that focus on our smart pallet capability. So targeted diagnostics was one of the first digital products that was launched in 2019. And if you remember, this is where we have a known opportunity. This is a challenge that we know where we need to target an injection of smart pallets to understand and confirm the root cause of the problem so that we can take action. But simply, targeted diagnostics helps us to move from we think we have a problem. So we know we do so that we can then act quickly and confidently. Since 2019, the Northern European business has been using smart diagnostics as a key tool every day to drive productivity, growth and customer surcharge reductions. A great example of how targeted diagnostics was used effectively was actually during the pandemic. A number of retailers have actually changed the way that goods flowed through their networks. We knew which retailer channels were losing more pallets, but we needed to understand clearly where the points of leakage were happening and why. Of course, one solution would be to simply implement surcharges to the sending manufacturers to compensate for these losses. But we know this is a key cause of customer dissatisfaction. And our preference is always to recover the pallets and only pass on surcharges when we can't. Targeted diagnostics here confirm that courier networks were a key source of inefficiencies, something which was suspected but difficult to prove. Once the data was available, the factual evidence made the corrective actions easy to identify and to agree with retailers. Real actions like procedures to segregate CHEP pallets and for collection and to stop flows into courier networks were put into place. These changes resulted in an approximately 150,000 unknown and unauthorized pallets from being stopped. We also successfully used the same approach to improve recovery of pallets from the fast-growing e-commerce network in the U.K. For all customers supplying into this channel, our improved pallet controls reduced -- resulted in a lower cost to serve, which enabled a reduction in surcharge fees and obviously, an increase in customer satisfaction. Over the last 4 years, we've repeated this approach now in over 30 markets, and that's enabled the recovery of around 4.5 million additional pallets and actually, the recovery of $60 million in annual price recovery since FY '21. As we resolve these problems, fewer known problems have become available to us to inform us where to target these injections of smart pallets. And this is where continuous diagnostics and our second case study comes in. Since 2023, the CHEP USA team has turned 0.2% of their pallet pool into smart pallets with autonomous tracking devices. This permanent installation of smart pallets on a proportion of the pool was intended to highlight unknown problems and opportunities. Our proprietary software that handles the billions of data feeds was configured to contextualize the data into easy-to-understand insights, but then notified the teams of any unexpected activity and behavior so that action can be taken. The initial results have been impressive with hundreds of new locations containing our pallets identified. We've discovered unknown pallet dealers, unknown smaller retailers, some manufacturer sites that were not part of the CHEP program and also some third-party logistics organizations. All of these locations have been sent our pallets, but we were not previously aware of them. To give you a sense of scale here, since launching continuous diagnostics in the U.S., the local teams have stopped around 260,000 unauthorized pallet flows from recyclers alone, and around 800,000 undeclared exchanges have been stopped, which also identifies new business opportunities for us. I have been a retail account manager myself in my time in CHEP U.K. And I can tell you that despite having access to customer sites and to the people at those sites, it's not always possible to fully understand the flows of pallets through their network. We had a particular challenge with one retailer once where the losses were increasing, and we simply couldn't figure out why. And what's been great to see that since the implementation of customer -- continuous diagnostics, the teams now can see some changes in retailer behavior in some of those retailers. And that particular retailer that we were struggling to understand, we now know have taken on some e-commerce contracts, which meant that they were returning consumer goods on behalf of other retailers. So we're seeing these retailer-to-retailer flows that you don't normally expect to see. But we could never have known that before. And interestingly, our contact at the retailer didn't know that either. It was part of a separate contract that they were managing. I think what this really does is shows the power of these smart pallets or this insiders eye is a really good proof point for why continuous diagnostics is delivering value for us. So what more can we -- do we believe that we can get now by adding Serialization? Well, as a reminder, what is Serialization. It's a unique identifier on every pallet. And so if every pallet had a unique ID or a name, this will reduce the reliance on customers sharing information about their pallet movements and relying on average base calculations. We could ensure simple offerings that are effortless for our customers. We would have more precise cost-to-serve information that would drive predictable pricing. If every pallet has a unique ID, that will allow us to understand the pool and network dynamics to a much higher degree of precision. We could maximize pool efficiency by investigating and solving for every pallet that is unproductive. If it's not carrying a customer's goods or in the process of being repaired or reissued, then there is an opportunity. If every pallet has a unique ID, then this pallet is useful, not only for the goods that it carries physically, but the data that the pallet can carry, where it has been, what it has carried and over what time. We know that every year, billions of unit loads are moved around the earth on our pallets. And so the data contained in the pallet could become the digital passport of global supply networks. A way for customers to carry information, not only goods. And this is why we believe we need Serialization as well as some of those diagnostic-based methods. So where are we in our Serialization trials? Firstly, this slide is intended more as a reference rather than something you need to read now, but allow me to walk you through some of the key points. We split the way that we take learnings into 3 key areas: operational, technological and value. And you'll also note that we weren't seeking to learn anything about value in those early lab stages. We started our learnings on stabilization in the lab, literally testing out different methods of positioning and reading tags and discovering what we believe to be the optimum technology for our environment. Our strong hypothesis at this stage was that QR codes and camera-vision technology would be the best and least intrusive way to instrument our pallets and to read them in our service centers. We then moved to field-based testing in Norway to learn more about what the -- how the technology reacted in our service centers. And we did test on some of the algorithms that we were writing to help make the data useful to us. From there, we move to our pilot market in Chile, and I'll now go a little deeper into some of our achievements and learnings there. So we chose Chile as a pilot market due to its size due to the fact that there are limited imports and exports and also the fact it's quite representative in its nature to some of those larger markets. And we've made significant progress in learnings, not only for Chile, but in terms of those next markets in the U.K. and North America. We've tagged 2.6 million of our pallets with QR codes, and we can now read those using the infrastructure in our service centers. We've tracked 4 million pallet journeys so far. And obviously, this number is growing rapidly. As well as tagging the entire pallet pool, we've also augmented the serial data with the proportion of smart pallets or those autonomous devices, and we've got around 60,000 of those. We've engaged with customers to validate the new service offer as well as the potential for new digital customer solutions. As you can see in the picture on the right-hand side, we've learned now in Chile how to automate the new processes and installed new capabilities in our Birmingham Service Center is our first step to ready the larger markets for Serialization. And Enrique will talk a little bit more about this later, too. So if that's what we've achieved in our proof-of-concept in Chile, then what's our overall roadmap to take learnings from this market into the larger markets. Well, this year, we'll follow the next stage of our methodology that you saw on the previous slide. As we head into FY '25, we want to further pressure test the operational and technological capabilities in the pilot market as well as the next markets across North America and the U.K. We've been validating operational feasibility in those next 2 markets to ensure that we can accommodate the local nuances into our solution. For example, North America actually has a lot of smaller service centers and customer site service centers with space constraints. So the equipment needs to be designed accordingly. The U.K. has different ways of issuing pallets to customers directly from retail locations, meaning that they sometimes take a little longer to be seen by our service centers. And this might be an opportunity for higher proportions of that hub-and-spoke technology that I talked about earlier. As our insights become more stable from the pilot market and more representative over the annual life cycle of the pallet, we will also be putting additional focus on unlocking value by working closely with our customers to test the effortless service offer at scale and understand the demand for digital customer solutions. We will also be proving our ability to improve productivity and compensation. And you'll see on the chart that the amount of learnings on value does increase versus previous stages. So should we be going faster? Well, I wish it were as easy as simply putting a tag on the pallet and reading the data from that time. But every step has presented new learnings. Thankfully, we've got very good at taking learnings and acting on those challenges and adapting quickly. But for example, if you're putting a tag on a pallet and you want to read it with a camera, what's the optimum level of lighting in a service center so you get optimum read rates. These have been the sorts of things that we've been learning. What happens if we paint over a tag, can we still read it? What happens if our pallets are stacked at different heights in different service centers? How can our camera see up-to the top of the stack. And of course, as Joaquin very kind you mentioned, when we get to the U.K., how do we deal with all the rain our tags encounter? How will weather conditions, and the various different pallet types and block types affect on that tag attrition? Interestingly, most of these challenges are now around how we operationalize the technology at scale. And hopefully, this is within our gift to solve, and we're confident that we can. We are clear on what we need to learn in the next phase, and we have stage-gated checkpoints to ensure that we've got that disciplined allocation of funding. So January is our next investment stage-gate. And based on outcomes, this will decide on whether we continue expansion or whether we pause and improve performance against key criteria first. We'll be assessing key criteria such as does the unique ID continue to perform as expected in different environments over time? Can we improve costs? And what is this worth? If we do not pass a stage-gate, the world is not lost. It simply means that there's more work to do to optimize our methodologies or to continue to expand benefits from other methodologies. We are not seeing Serialization as a single silver bullet, but as part of a blended approach to leveraging data to solve for opportunities. So here is that overall approach for technology layering. We've been following a very purposeful roadmap for each of the capabilities, starting with proof-of-concepts and then expanding as our confidence grows. Targeted Diagnostics is in now a rolling portfolio, an ordinary course of business for us across the globe. Continuous Diagnostics is now established in 4 markets, and we're expanding to Mainland Europe with an additional 300,000 smart pallets through FY '25. We've started this expansion in Spain, but as the Euro pallet does flow quite freely through the continent, we should be able to take some really interesting insights from across the entire European continent. The Serialization proof-of-concept has given us the confidence to test feasibility in North America and the U.K. with a stage-gate every 6 months to continue or to consolidate learnings. Our technology mix or choices may change, but our approach of testing small, capturing learnings to scale will remain. We are seeing how powerful this mix is at market level. And Alasdair, the General Manager of Northern Europe will explain in his words now why his business is different day-to-day based on these layered digital capabilities. [Presentation]

Helen Lane

executive
#62

As Alasdair said, I was General Manager of that business myself in the previous life. So I must say it's absolutely fantastic to hear from Alasdair , just the difference that digital technology is making to the running of that business and to the conversations that we can now have with customers. And Alasdair mentioned at the end there that I think he's most excited about going forward is digital customer solutions and the different conversations that we'll therefore be able to have with customers yet again. And so that seems a very fitting point for me to introduce you to Matt Quinn, who will share with you our ambition, our progress and our plans to help serve our customers in a way that we never have before. Over to you, Matt.

Matthew Quinn

executive
#63

Thank you, Helen. Hello, everybody. So today, I'm going to share with you the really exciting work that we've been busy with here at Brambles, and that's developing a new set of digital offerings for our customers. And we believe these new digital solutions that we're developing actually have the potential to transform our customers' supply chains. Importantly to note, the digital offerings that we have been developing all leverage the same technologies that you've heard Helen just discussed. So today, I'll take you through the solutions we've created, what they do and what some of our early adopter customers are actually saying about the solutions, too. So you'll hear all about how Brambles is uniquely positioned to create visibility of the end-to-end supply chain for our customers, which enables them to spot where waste is happening in the supply chain, so they can take those real-world actions. And then as a result, they can improve the efficiency, agility and sustainability of their supply chains. But at first -- I think, first, there's the big question. What is the problem that we're trying to address here? And the problem is one of waste and waste occurs in supply chains because of suboptimal supply chain processes. And this occurs all over the world. The magnitude of this waste, it's significant, and it's also unsustainable. Industry experts referred to this waste is value leakage through the supply chain. And that's the opportunity we as supply chain practitioners have to make a difference. So as you've just heard from Helen at Brambles, we've been developing the digital capabilities in our own business, and we've used this to a really good effect to be able to transform how we operate our own Brambles business. But now we have the opportunity to transform our customer supply chains, too. So we believe Brambles is uniquely positioned to create a portfolio of digitally-enabled customer solutions. And that's because we can leverage our scale of the physical network that we have and the decades of supply chain knowledge that we've accumulated over time to build that data and insight network that you heard Graham described it a little bit earlier on. And it's that data and insight network that will allow our customers to gain greater visibility into their end-to-end supply chains, so that they can spot the waste, where and when it's happening and then they can take those real-world actions to be able to remove the inefficiencies from the supply chains. Now we've been working with customers and partners all over the world to begin developing our Digital Customer Solutions business. And there's 3 insights that consistently keep being revealed through these interactions with our customers. The first of those insights is that it's validating that there is a significant amount of value leakage across global supply chains that impact our customers' ability to generate revenue, adds unnecessary cost to their operations and compromises their ability to operate their business sustainably. The second insight is that data, that's the key ingredient. That's the ingredient to give that visibility of the end-to-end supply chain. It provides the insights, those facts that you heard Alasdair described in the video, that enables our customers to effectively spot where the waste is incurring in the supply chain so that they can take those actions to improve their supply chain operations. And then finally, the last insight is that there's already evidence of real demand from noteworthy global organizations that we've been working with for the 3 digital customer solutions we've developed so far. Now to date, we've developed 3 minimum viable products to start our Digital Customer Solutions portfolio with. All these solutions enable customers to spot and remove waste from their supply chains in some shape or form. So if I start off with our proof-of-delivery solution. This provides insights from targeted injections of those smart pallets, and it enables our customers to gain the visibility of samples of the inventory moving through their supply chains, so through their end-to-end supply chains. We can give them insights such as where the inventory is and how long it's been at different points within the supply chain. And then they can use those insights to be able to diagnose a host of problems. So the types of problems customers can detect by using this solution, things like what impacts -- what's impacting gross service levels, how do we activate our retail promotions better or even they can use the data to be able to resolve invoice disputes between trading parties. The next solution we've developed is called reusable asset optimization, and this enables our customers to monitor and manage pools of their own returnable packaging equipment. So this is not dissimilar to how we've been using Serialization+ to manage our own pallet pool. Now this solution gives customers the visibility of where their equipment is in the supply chain network and where it's been. And this helps our customers maintain or improve a few things with regard to their returnable packaging systems. It helps them maintain continuity of packaging supply that helps them optimize their own pool sizes. And then importantly, it helps them improve the circularity of their entire returnable packaging system. And then the last solution that we've been developing on, we call end-to-end fresh. And this solution is probably the most complex of the 3 that we've developed-to-date. So it's a tracking solution, also utilizing our smart pallets. And it helps us help our customers monitor different attributes that affect the quality and shelf life of perishable products that move through the end-to-end supply chain. So with end-to-end fresh, we're currently helping customers track 2 variables, temperature and dwell time as their products move through the end-to-end supply chain. And this creates visibility for them to determine if anything has been out of spec for those 2 variables. Why is this important? Well, in very quality sensitive categories like fruit and vegetables, dwell time and temperature proxies for quality. So adherence to both of those variables ensures that the fresh produce arrives in the store in the best possible condition has the optimum shelf life. And importantly, it helps them safeguard against any food waste as the products travel through the supply chain. So now in developing these 3 digital customer solutions so far, it provides Brambles the opportunity to access a significant new area of value. We've done some market sizing research, and it's been very provided by partners that we worked with. And we've concluded that collectively, these 3 solutions that we've developed together have a potential serviceable addressable market of approximately $8 billion of revenue. So the next question is, well, how are we creating this end-to-end visibility? So there's 3 core technical product components that we bring together to execute our Digital Customer Solutions. So it's the smart pallets, bricks that you heard Graham speak about a little bit earlier and then supply chain illumination. Again, just to reinforce, all of these technologies utilize the same hardware and software that Helen has described. So smart assets, first of all, what do they do? They service the vehicle for data collection as they travel through the supply chain. Bricks, that allows us to ingest all of this data from the millions of pellets -- the millions of data feeds that we collect from our pallets traveling to the supply chain. And it also allows us to scale out to many customers. And then supply chain illumination, that's an integrated application that processes all of that tracking data collected from our pallets and it puts it into business context for connected supply chain partners. Supply chain illumination allows us to process not just the tracking data collected from pallets, but also the contextual data collected from our customers. So things like what's the product that's sitting on the pallet, delivery information that they may be wanting to share with their trading party or carrier details. The application then allows us to be able to deliver the required insights to relevant users in our customers' businesses so that they can spot where things are going wrong or where things are going right, so that they can take real-world actions to address the waste and unlock new sources of value in their supply chain. And the thing that's so exciting is we're just at the beginning. So we're working on the system all the time. We're adding new features, all of which build towards new ways of optimizing our customer supply chains. It's an iterative process where we're constantly taking feedback from our customers. And that feedback we get from our customers allows us to design, build and perfect all of the features that will help them monitor, improve and automate their supply chain processes. So I've got a little video that we're going to play next. And in the video, it should bring to life for you the types of problems that our customers experience and then how they're actually using our digital solutions to improve their supply chains. In the video, you'll see the actual screens being used by customers today to give them those insights that they need to take targeted actions to remove waste and unlock value from their supply chains. So take a look at the video. [Presentation]

Matthew Quinn

executive
#64

So you can see there we've had some incredibly positive feedback from those early adopted customers of ours. And this validates for us that Brambles is uniquely positioned, and we have this ability to create visibility of the end-to-end supply chains from our customers. So Green Garden, which we've got up there. It's a U.S.-based business that you'll hear a little bit more about from Vishal, a little bit later on. They used our proof-of-delivery solution. And they used the solution to be able to improve the activation of the in-store promotions. You can see there at the end of the first trial that we ran of our proof-of-delivery solution, the CEO of Green Garden said to us that they were able to activate their promotion or 90% of the promotional stock a month ahead of the previous year because they had visibility of where the inventory was in the supply chain. And this resulted in an improvement in sales for them. So a great result with that initial customer. But we've also been working very closely with Woolworths New Zealand. So you can see here on the screen, the quote from James Miles. Now Woolworths New Zealand have been helping us develop our end-to-end fresh solution. And what the end-to-end fresh solution does for Woolworths is it gives them visibility of those 2 variables that I described, dwell time and temperature variables. And what they use it for is to see has anything gone out of specification. And if anything has gone out of specification with those 2 variables, then they can work with their suppliers or transporters in order to quickly do a root cause analysis to go to say what's caused the compromising of those variables and then they can drive the corrections and improve their supply chain processes. So James Myles, in the quote there, you can see following a number of pilots and trial engagements we did. He said, he thinks that this solution has actually got the prospect of transforming how the entire fresh category operates in New Zealand. And will materially improve the outcomes for their customers. So no doubt, that's why Sam had the great strawberries at the end of the video there. So what are we trying to do here? We're actually trying to create a supply chain data and insight network. So think of a supply chain nervous system, always sensing and feeling. So giving us feedback constantly of what's working and what -- importantly, what's not working? The basis of our competitive advantage when we create this network will remain closely linked to what's made Brambles successful over the past 70 years of business. And that's 3 things. It's our ability to set standards. It's our ability to share and reuse assets and infrastructure across the supply chain network. And importantly, it's also our ability to create networks to connect trading parties within a network. Now in FY '24, we successfully created our first point solutions for customers. Point Solutions sold a single problem for a single customer, and Green Garden was a great example of one of those point solutions. They're our first -- they're the first users in the future network. Now what we're doing is we're shifting our focus to build category solutions and category solutions solve problems that are characteristic of an entire category of products. So our work with Woolworths New Zealand and trying to improve the dynamics of the end-to-end fresh, the fruit and vegetable supply chain. I think this is a good example of a category solution. But beyond that, our next task will be the creation of cross-category solutions. And cross-category solutions, you may ask us, what are those? Those are solutions that address problems that are ubiquitous irrespective of the category of the supply chain that's being operated. So 2 good examples of this could be estimated time of arrival would be a good example of a cross-category solution, complete end-to-end visibility of inventory across the supply chain. That could be another great example of a cross-category solution. Now at this mature future state, we'll be collecting data from the entire supply chain network. We'll be collecting it from our smart pallets, our serialized pallets. It will be complemented with customer and partner data as well. And we aggregate all of this data across that supply chain network, and that will enable Brambles to create a set of solutions that don't just deliver insights and capability to fix points or lanes within a supply chain, it will give us the opportunity to transform how that entire supply chain network actually operates and set -- and allow us to set new standards of efficiency, agility and sustainability. So, where are we now? So in FY '24, we asked ourselves 3 questions. So 3 challenging questions. We said, can we build a digital solution and successfully deploy it to a customer? Then we said, with that digital solution once we've deployed it to a customer, actually give them actionable insights so that they can unlock new sources of value. And then the third critical question was, would a customer pay us, Brambles, if we gave them a digital customer solution? So thankfully, over the past year, we've been able to answer yes to those 3 questions. So we do now, in fact, have multiple customers across a number of our operating businesses, engaging with us mostly on a trial and pilot basis, and actively working with us to continue to develop and enhance the feature sets of our digital solutions. We've also secured our first commercial opportunities for Digital Customer Solutions. So we've secured approximately $1 million of contracted revenue-to-date. But now we're shifting our focus, and we're starting to prepare what needs to be in place to take a meaningful scaling step. And that meaningful scaling step is to be able to get to somewhere between $5 million and $10 million of contracted revenue from Digital Customer Solutions. I think it's really important to note that our aspiration and ambition is far greater than $5 million to $10 million. As you saw, there's a significant amount of value leakage across the world supply chains that we do believe we are uniquely position to help our customers address. But we're in the very early stages of our development. So there's much work we still need to do to fully build out all the capabilities required across our hardware, software, digital operations, and business processes to access the full potential that is available, and build a Digital Customer Solutions business of meaningful scale for Brambles. So, thank you. I'm going to hand back to Helen for some closing remarks.

Helen Lane

executive
#65

Thank you, Matt. And so before we take any questions from you, just a few key messages. We do know now that our ability to see deeper inside our own supply chains and to understand our customers' networks better, has been greatly enhanced through access to new data. And that was a pivotal factor in the Brambles' results that you saw in FY '24. But as Graham plagiarized earlier, we didn't come this far just to come this far. And there is more to come in our digital capabilities. We'll be expanding those capabilities in those more proven diagnostics where we know we've proven value. We will also be expanding operational testing to those more pioneering capabilities such as Serialization. And as Matt has just shared, we're now excited to hear that there's more value we can get from our data. That is customer demand now for new live digital customer solutions, and that can help to reposition us as a digital customer solutions provider. So thank you all for listening. And now I'll hand over to Raluca for some questions.

Raluca Chiriacescu

executive
#66

Thank you. We'll open up for 15 minutes of Q&A.

Peter Steyn

analyst
#67

Peter Steyn from Macquarie. Would be really interested in your perspective around who you're competing with, or who the substitutes, how do you penetrate this market opportunity in that context?

Matthew Quinn

executive
#68

And is that specifically for digital customer solutions? Okay. So I think there's a variety of competitors that we face with. There's digital native organizations. And then, of course, there's incumbent poolers that have the potential to compete with us. I think the types of competitors are those that offer platform solutions, track-and-trace type solutions and that also have the aspiration to create visibility of the end-to-end supply chain. I think where we are uniquely positioned is that we go beyond truck level, we go down to the pallet level data. And I think it's also the ease of operational execution. We've had a number of customers share with us, it's in the pallet, and that's what makes the execution to be able to collect the data and make the insights available that much easier.

Matthew Ryan

analyst
#69

It's Matt Ryan from Barrenjoey. Just looking at the experience in Chile, I think you've got about 2% of your assets as smart assets. Is that the right number? Do you think when you roll out across other geographies?

Helen Lane

executive
#70

No, we think it could be lower than that. We went for more in Chile to just give us more data so that we can actually -- I probably should think of a technical term for this, we can turn a blind eye to some of that data to start understanding, okay, what is that optimum mix. But as you heard with continuous diagnostics, we're not going above 1%. So in the U.K., I think it was 0.8%, whereas in Canada, it was 0.3%. So we're just testing that variation. But no, we don't think it would need to be as high as 2% on those autonomous devices. The difference will be in those markets where you have more data gaps. So I explained in the U.K., we actually issue pallets directly from retailers rather from our service centers. So in those instances, they come back to our service centers less frequently. And that's where we might want to supplement with BLE devices, so cheaper semiautonomous device as well to get that optimum mix to make sure we've got enough data for our needs.

Matthew Ryan

analyst
#71

So just in those markets where you've got less, couple of those markets that you mentioned plus the U.S. Are you getting benefits to channel pricing or able to use, I guess, the data that you've got already to take that to customers with contract renegotiations already? Or do you think that's sort of something that you can do in the future?

Helen Lane

executive
#72

From a sampling basis, yes. So it's giving us enough value now to say that targeted and continuous diagnostics we're confident in. And so from a sampling perspective, with targeted diagnostics, we can point it into certain channels. And that is helping us have those conversations with customers, which says, actually, we understand your behavior better now and so that you can start thinking about ways of increasing pricing. But I think Vishal will be sharing some of that in the North America presentation, too.

Andre Fromyhr

analyst
#73

Andre from UBS. Just on the Digital Customer Solutions, I sort of remember back 9 years ago in Pasadena, we heard a lot about BXB Digital and the sort of opportunity to monetize supply chain insights with customers. So I'm fascinated -- I mean it sounds like you're already earning some revenue out of the opportunities already. But wondering if you could talk through what is different about the context now and the capabilities now that gives you the confidence to properly turn that into a business? And maybe as a follow-up, are you talking about customers as existing CHEP customers or like a retailers going to be the ones paying for this stuff?

Matthew Quinn

executive
#74

So perhaps let me start with the second part of the question first. So I think targeting our existing customers, that are already defined in an ideal customer profile. Manufacturers and retailers would both be in scope because here's the recipient of the value that's yielded by deployment of the solution in the supply chain. And then that's where we've been testing willingness to pay. So both manufacturers and retailers would be in scope. We are targeting our incumbent customer and retailer base with the existing solutions because that's where the waste is being manifested in their supply chains. Then -- or what's different? I think what's fundamentally different here is we're leveraging off of the capabilities we've built in-house in Brambles. So the capabilities that Helen shared such as targeted diagnostics, continuous diagnostics, that builds a lot of inherent capability to be able to deploy a Digital Customer Solution. So for example, how do you ready a smart pallet in a service center to be able to deploy to a customer. These are fundamental changes that we've enabled, that improve our ability to execute that perhaps weren't there in the past.

Niraj-Samip Shah

analyst
#75

It's Niraj from Goldman Sachs. Couple of questions, I think one on the Customer Solutions. As you go from point solutions to all the way up to sort of network solutions in particular, is there any ambiguity around who owns the data, which you said was obviously key to all of this?

Matthew Quinn

executive
#76

So I think we think about the data in 2 pieces. So there's 1 set of data that we use to be able to operate, the pallet pool. So, Brambles, we own that data. If there's any customer context applied to that data, the ownership resides with the customer. The real magic or secret sauce to being able to make this work though is sharing of that data to be able to provide insights in order to unlock new sources of value. So I' think Graham referenced a little bit earlier on. collaboration among supply chain partners is key. And I think we play that unique role in that we can connect supply chain partners to be able to surface insights that were impossible before so they can take actions and access new sources of value.

Anthony Moulder

analyst
#77

Anthony Moulder from Jefferies. Just 2 parts question. First is unidentified transfer. How big do you think that is as an opportunity to close down? And the second part, not related actually, but is, you say you're uniquely positioned. If I speak to a trucking company or a warehouse management system company, they would say that they're uniquely positioned, what makes the pallet level identification that unique relative to, just to say, a truck and trailer?

Helen Lane

executive
#78

So the first part of your question, I think, was around unidentified pilot movements or uncompensated reuse. So we do think that is an opportunity for us. I think the example that we shared from the U.S. business was really interesting. And I think Vishal will be sharing more on that opportunity later. But if you remember, we said a few things. One, that we've discovered through our track and trace capability, 225,000 new locations now that are receiving our pallets that we didn't know about, so that's an opportunity. We know with that specific case study that I gave you from the U.S. that we've set those 260,000 movements to pallet dealers and that we also saw 800,000 unidentified exchanges, and they either become new business opportunities or asset recovery opportunities. So I think the opportunity for us to spot and highlight those problems is there. But again, I think you'll hear some more from Vishal on that later.

Anthony Moulder

analyst
#79

Case of the scope of that opportunity. So is it a few percent of issues? Is it 5% of the issues that...

Helen Lane

executive
#80

Yes. We haven't got those numbers of amalgamated if that's what you're looking for. Joaquin, I don't know if there's anything you want to add to that? .

Joaquin Gil

executive
#81

Anthony, look, what I'd say is that's the excitement to digital because it's been really hard to quantify. So as we continue to roll out continuous and targeted diagnostics and as we move on to Serialization, that's what it will allow us to do.

Helen Lane

executive
#82

And then the second part of the question?

Matthew Quinn

executive
#83

Yes, yes, perhaps I can answer the second part of your question. So I think -- why are we uniquely positioned? One is because of the extent of our physical network and scale right now. The next is where the pallet travels through the network. So we touch many supply chain categories and the pallet travels end-to-end. So it goes through each and every nuance, so receiving, put away, dispatch on to vehicles and then once again receiving, put away, and dispatch. So what's distinct from, I guess, a transport organization is that the truck only flows between nodes within organizations whereas the pallet is the common denominator, that's the thread that holds the data altogether throughout the end-to-end supply chain.

James Wilson

analyst
#84

James Wilson from Jarden Australia. Just 2 for me. Firstly, can you just step us through what assumptions underlie that $100 million target that you put in the presentation? .

Matthew Quinn

executive
#85

So I think the assumptions are much closer related to the serviceable addressable market. So if I take you through end-to-end fresh, for example, we've looked at the cold chain management as a category. We've assumed a percentage of that is addressable through track and trace. We've looked at target geographies and target categories to derive the serviceable addressable market. $100 million, it feels like an appropriate aspiration in order for us to be able to get to given the extent of the market opportunity. However, I think it's early days in order to be able to say how quickly or slowly can we be able to get there because we're still testing with some of those early adopter customers.

James Wilson

analyst
#86

Okay. Great. And then just secondly for me, are you able to contrast for us the propensity for customers to actually pay for this data or insight between the larger FMCG customers that you have and maybe some of the smaller SME customers as well?

Matthew Quinn

executive
#87

Yes. I think it's far too premature to say because I think we've only tested with a handful of customers around the world. Our knowledge of that will gather rapidly as we engage with more and more organizations.

Reinhardt van der Walt

analyst
#88

Reinhardt from Bank of America. The question for Helen and maybe Joaquin can provide a comment as well. I just want to go back to the basics of Serialization+. And just to understand the framework that you're using to actually measure the financial returns on some of these investments. Like I appreciate you can spot more pallets coming back in certain parts. But at the end of the day, we're talking about spending quite a lot of capital, potentially. And we need to get comfortable with the kind of returns you're going to generate on that. I mean, I appreciate A/B testing is probably quite difficult, right, because the supply chain moves around, and there's probably some agency problems when you go to talk to your commercial managers asking them sort of how much of the performance came from your solution versus their own acumen. So can you maybe just explain to us what kind of consistent framework you're going to use across the markets to measure performance?

Helen Lane

executive
#89

Sure. And I will refer to Joaquin as well. But you're absolutely right. I think what makes it quite difficult, even when we talked about targeted and continuous diagnostics is that we can point to activity, we can point to challenges, but then there are other steps that happen afterwards to really extract the value. So that might be sending a truck. It might be sending a person. It might be a really strong commercial negotiation that an account manager then does. So it's quite hard then for us to do that in that sense. But what we can do and what we are doing in Chile now is really testing out that effortless experience with them. And so really getting customer appetite for that. We're testing out customer appetite for Digital Customer Solutions in Chile. So Matt's been spending some time with the customers over there as well. And then we will make sure that we have sort of value hurdles as we go through our stage-gates for the next investment phase. But Joaquin, is there anything you'd like to add to that?

Joaquin Gil

executive
#90

Yes. I think what's different from Serialization versus, let's say, continuous and targeted diagnostics is that you saw this morning in my presentation, this is what we expect the business to do without Serialization. So now we can overlay the Serialization business case and be able to say, does it meet that 15% ROCE hurdle on the Serialization investment. So I think that's the difference.

Raluca Chiriacescu

executive
#91

Great. And on that note, we might end the Q&A there. But Helen and Matt will be around in the final Q&A session at the end of the day as well as at lunch [indiscernible]. Thank you both.

Raluca Chiriacescu

executive
#92

Okay. So we'll move on to our next presentation from Enrique Montañes Garcia. He has been running our global operations for the past 3 years and joined Brambles in 2003. He's held a variety of senior roles across Brambles, including in planning, operations and transportation. I will now hand over to Enrique.

Enrique Montañes Garcia

executive
#93

Thank you, Raluca. Good morning. My name is Enrique Montañes Garcia, and I've been the Chief Operations Officer with Brambles, since the end of 2021. Today, I'm going to talk to you about the supply chain function, the ways we create value for the group, how we intend to continue to create value in the future. We have planned for 30 minutes presentation in which we will explain the pillars of competitive advantage and each of the 3 key levers that we use to drive value. which are scale and network advantage, platform innovation and process automation. Then we'll have some time for questions at the end. From this session, you will get a view on how the supply chain function would support Brambles objectives of growth and leverage generation by delivering efficiencies while improving and reducing the total cost of ownership for our customers. To provide a sense of the scale of our business as of June 30, 2024, Brambles employed approximately 13,000 people. Our service centers processed in the region of 1 billion pallets, crates and containers from our network of more than 750 sites, which serves approximately 150,000 points of delivery and collection. I want to take a moment to talk about how the supply chain function is aligned with the vision of Brambles that Graham shared with us today for the future to create more resilient and regenerative networks. Our first focus area is on creating an effortless customer experience. Our customer value proposition is funded on providing platforms that are fit for purpose, and meet the highest standards, both nationally and internationally. These quality standards ensure our pallets are durable enough to travel long distances and the load with the world's largest brands trusting us to transport a good, safely. This is combined with our unparalleled network, which we consider as a distinct source of competitive advantage. This scale allows us to serve more customers, more effectively, especially those with complex supply chains. Finally, adding to the customer experience is our continued penetration of automation across our service center network. Automation assist in lifting the standard and consistency of pallet repairs providing greater compatibility with increasingly automated manufacturing lines and also retail distribution lines -- distribution centers as well as efficiency and consistency in service delivery. Moving to illuminated supply networks. We are very pleased with the progress we made across our digital capabilities, which you have just heard from Helen Lane. We have worked very closely with the digital team since the beginning of the journey to enhance the capabilities of our service centers with the technology required to enable digital offerings to scale effectively. Turning into operational excellence. We are leading the way in automation innovation in this area, which allow us to maximize throughput across our existing network and contribute to the financial operating leverage that is integral to the investor value proposition. We strive for excellence in asset recovery, trying to minimize platform losses wherever possible. And I will tell you more later about how we continuously improve the performance of our platforms through innovative design, materials, and repair processes. Finally, on regenerative supply networks, we have a very clearly defined roadmap towards a net zero carbon emission. We are committed to supporting our customers also by reducing their own emissions. 100% of the timber that we use today on our wooden platform is sustainably sourced and certified, underline our commitment to the environment and long-term responsible choices. Marisa Sánchez and Juan José Freijo will share more details about the decarbonization and sustainability journey in a session after the break. We view supply chain as a key enabler for creating value for Brambles and our customers through 3 overarching levels, being scale and network advantage, platform innovation, and process automation. These levers have evolved over time, taking us from our pioneering past to our innovative present and toward an even more promising future. Our scale and network advantage was built on a pioneering circular economy model that disrupted the traditional one-way palleting system. Today, we leverage our unparalleled network coverage to meet the demands of global manufacturers and retailers. Importantly, we continue to optimize our network annually by leveraging technologies and adjusting for our evolving network and customer base to stay ahead. Looking to the future, this scale advantage will be critical in securing sustainable access to key input materials, decoupling us from price volatility. On the platform innovation front, we set the standards for reusable pool assets in the past. Today, we are continuously improving and innovating these platforms, raising the bar on quality. In the future, our platforms will be digitally enabled with more uniform quality, laying the foundations for new digital service offers that will create additional value for our customers. Lastly, when it comes to process automation, we have evolved from a manual repair operation, relying on skilled labor to highly automated systems that support operational flexibility. As we move forward, our goal is to fully automate our plans, creating a touchless operation that drive safety, platform quality and consistency, and also higher productivity. These 3 levers illustrate the journey we've been on and where we are headed, showing our commitment to maintaining our competitive edge while delivering sustainable value. I want now to dive into each of the 3 levels of competitive advantage in more detail, beginning with our scale and network advantage, which I will cover over the next few slides. Our first competitive advantage, we believe that our scale and network coverage is a distinct source of value. First, in terms of customer value, our unmatched coverage within and across regions makes Brambles the pooling partner of choice. This extensive network ensures reliability in delivery and collection, which is crucial for keeping our customers' operations smooth and uninterrupted. You can get a sense of the scale of our operations from the number of delivery and collection points on the slide, which our major markets of North America and Europe making are just under 3/4 of the total network. And these are all the delivery and collection points in our network. But if you were to consider every single location where our pallets actually go and supply goods in a region, this number will be significantly larger. This scale allows us to create a network density that is both beneficial for our customers and for us. To give some context to this network advantage, 85% of our customers in the U.S. and 70% of customers in Europe have a Brambles service center within 100-kilometer radius. This enables speed, but also certainty of fulfillment and an efficient and effective asset recovery operation as well as very low cargo intensity operation. the scale and proximity to our service centers to customers also underpins our effortless customer experience vision with DIFOT performance improving 4 points in fiscal '24 only in North America and Europe. It's important to note that we have teams dedicated to the ongoing optimization of our network. So it's not something we do a one-off given the dynamics of our market. To maximize certainty of fulfillment and the efficiency of our assets, we try to continue to reduce carbon footprint and ensuring that we have the flexibility to respond quickly to increases in demand. At a practical level, this is about streamlining our networks and using software to generate a future state that is optimized for both our customers and for Brambles. This involves positioning locations in the network based on the changing flows of our customers. And strategically dimensioning our service centers so they can process our platform at the optimal location and with the optimal capacity. While these changes are incremental, as you can see, there are meaningful benefits if we can continue to reduce average distances and collection distances to customer over time. In all, we expect the work undertaking in leveraging and optimizing our network to continue delivering cumulative efficiencies and carbon reduction over the coming years. Lastly, on this subject, our scale allow us to unlock value, further up the supply chain as well. As you know, 100% of our team is from certified sources and we are committed to maintaining this level. But we have a long-term timber strategy that will ensure a sustainable supply of appropriate timber at a discount price to market. This strategy has also involved partnering with sawmills here in North America to improve the efficiency of their operations and also the introduction of new species of timber in pallet manufacturer with not only diversified supply but also enhances durability and lowers the overall life cycle cost of our platforms. I also want to draw your attention to this Fast-Track-to-Certification program, whereby we help new suppliers achieve the standards that we require to ensure that we have a robust pipeline of new sources of timber as we grow. Our second source of competitive advantage is our continued focus on enhancing our platforms and products, and process and what we characterize as platform innovation. Our platform innovation, our approach focuses on creating products that excel in customer supply chains, maximizing durability and supporting sustainability. We consider 4 key angles in platform innovation framework. First, we established rigorous standards for our platforms, ensuring the ongoing reliability and compliance, which is crucial for maintaining trust and performance. Second, we refine the design of our platforms. We know that even minor adjustments in component placements or repair techniques can significantly reduce damage during use, enhancing overall durability and also providing a better experience for customers. Third, we look at materials by experimenting with different types of timbers such as hardwood, we can diversify our supply sources and strengthen our pallets. We support both production and durability. I'd like to encourage you to visit our booth where you can see some of these new materials, how we test them. Finally, our innovation pipeline is dedicated to exploring new ideas that go beyond traditional material and design improvement. This includes long-term innovations, currently in the discovery and development phases, that could fundamentally enhance our pool economics and deliver greater value. Let's look more closely to our efforts to enhance the durability of our platforms. On the left side, you will see a chart illustrating the evolution of damage rate for pallets across the U.S. and Europe from fiscal '17 to fiscal '24. As you can see from the direction of travel, all the initiatives we have implemented are delivering improvements. Although it's through the market inventory optimization during the last year has presented some challenges, with pallets returning more damage after having a spend longer time out in the field after the pandemic. We have, nevertheless, delivered 270 basis points of improvement since fiscal '17. Noting, as Joaquin said before, the 100 basis point reduction is equivalent to approximately $12 million benefit to underlying profit. With inventory optimization expected to be largely complete, we expect the benefits from current and future durability initiatives to generate between 300 and 400 basis points of benefits by fiscal '28 against the fiscal '24 baseline. When considering the rollout of platform innovations, it's important to keep in mind a few considerations. First, the time required for an improvement to impact the entire pool depends on whether the chain supplied only a new pallet purchases when a pallet is manufactured first or during the repair process as well. Second, new species might be effective but can be market specific due to transportation costs and carbon emissions, making them less practical for some regions. Finally, not all design improvements are universally applicable due to regional variations in pallet design. And you can see as an example of how our pallet platform are different in different markets. Over the next slides, I would like to go through some of the historical innovations that we continue to roll out across our pools around the world. Some of them we first introduced several years ago, and we'll be maybe familiar to some of you. Just to give you some examples. First, we introduced clinch nails with embed the nail tips back into the pallet for a stronger bond. This increases the deck stiffness and also have the added benefit of maintaining structural integrity and strength. Second, we introduced nail plates to reinforce joints with metal connectors. This enhanced overall pallet strength and significantly reduces board splitting as well as providing better racking capabilities. Third, we introduced hardwood species that are more resistant to impact without splitting, chipping or breaking, improving durability and overall fewer repairs. Fourth, our butted board technique minimizes the gaps between boards. And this has the benefit of keeping boards from being pushed backwards, which minimizes chipping and missing boards and boosts resilience and safety. The last 2, in particular, are very much life innovation that continue to deliver value to us. and to customer as we roll them out to new pools around the world. Earlier, I mentioned the impact of changes to component placement and repair technique. Over the last 4 years, we have both improved the placement of nails in our pallets and invested in driving greater consistency of nail placement in repair as well. This remains ongoing and is a particularly effective durability improvement given that the investment required is on training in rather than in pallet upgrades. We're also excited to introduce what we call double-walled blocks, which we expect to start in Americas in 2025 and soon after in Europe. As you can see, these are 2-walled blocks fitting into each other that are made from recycled plastic and recycled good, which is also a fantastic new for our credential in terms of up-cycling. And we have delivered very meaningful improvements in durability in testing from this. You will have a chance to see and even touch some of these blocks if you go to our product development booth here today. Lastly, we are particularly proud of the work our teams have done to create the operational foundations for the rollout of digitally-enabled platforms. We have introduced new processes for installation, detection and repair of our tracking devices and install hardware to automatically track our pallets with QR codes and associate them with specific loads. Ultimately, the introduction of digital capabilities across pallets could potentially bring inefficiencies across the business. However, it has been very pleasing to see that our teams are working and finding ways to solve the problems we encounter, and ultimately, being able to eliminate those inefficiencies and enabling the benefits from our digital assets. An example of this is the video on this slide of the new auto tracker installation at our service center in Birmingham in the U.K. We are very proud of this solution because it reduces the time and cost associated with adding QR codes back to pallets. So let's play the video, please. What you are seeing is the 4 robotic arms. What they are doing is applying those metal fasteners that Joaquin mentioned before, it does this in 2 steps. First, a camera captures where the tag is exactly placed because not all our blocks are the same. And then the 4 metal fasteners are applied right in the right place. So the final section of my presentation is focused on the third level of competitive advantage, process automation. Automation is integral to driving value. As Joaquin and Graham said before, it goes beyond financial efficiency, including different dimensions of our operations. Automation enhances safety by reducing minor repairs. It also attracts top talent through technology innovation, ensures consistency and quality that elevates customer experience and boosts productivity and flexibility. And it also supports our regenerative vision by minimizing waste. In short, it truly delivers transformative value for our customers. From fiscal '22 to fiscal '24, we have invested USD 270 million in automation. As you know, our initial ambition was to roll out 70 automatic repair cells or Integrum, which I will cover in more detail shortly. We have since revised this down for a few reasons, and Joaquin mentioned this briefly before. As a business, we are disciplined on how we allocate capital. And the economics of this investment have changed since we first announced it. We saw a sharp inflation in the prices of critical companies and semiconductors, as you may know, after the pandemic and also longer lead times for the delivery. But we also experienced a reduction in pallet returns during those years after the pandemic, as customers held retailers sell the pallets for longer. But it's important to note that automatic repair cells or Integrum is only one part of our automation program. From fiscal '22 to fiscal '24, those engines, we have invested in more than 150 installations of automation equipment, including Integrum, but also others. This includes what we refer to our integrated sort, repair and paint lines, automated inspection units, automated assembly lines, pallet dismantling and re-mantling systems. Our journey in automation has been pivotal in enhancing safety, as evidenced by the reduction in our injury frequency rate that went from 5.9% fiscal '19 to 2.9% the last fiscal year, which has more than half and continues to be an instrumental part of our future plans to progress against our 0 harm charter. This slide introduces the 3 phases of our automation journey. In Phase 1, we focused on creating an integrated layout in our service centers. Phase 2 demonstrated our ability to fully automate the repair of broken pallets. And the next phase will build on the first 2 to achieve a true end-to-end process automation. That is our ambition is to eliminate the need for manual contact with our pallets and create a completely touchless plant. We'll dive deeper into each of these phases in the coming slides. In Phase I, our automation journey, we introduced the Integrated Sort, Repair, Paint” line or ISRP. This new approach means that there is now a single connected line from the time the pallet is sorted, then repair and paint it. We can maybe play the videos in parallel. What you see on the left side is one of those insulated separated lines. On the top right is the inspection station. On the bottom, you have the repair benches. And you can see how FLTs needs to move the pallets from the inspection to the repair area. This is where the inspection takes place and then the pallets are moved with drivers and FLTs to the repair areas. And then from there, they will move to the paint line. While on the video on the right, you see the concept of an integrated sort, repair, paint line, where everything is integrated. First and foremost, there is a significant safety enhancement here by eliminating the crossflow between staff and forklifts, a leading cause for safety incidents. We typically see a reduction in the incident rate of more than 30% within 12 months of the installation, and has been a significant driver of the injury frequency rate performance that you have seen before. It also improves the efficiency and quality of our operations by providing greater process stability, increased throughput, thereby boosting our network capacity and reducing the need for forklift trucks and drivers to move pallets between each phase of the sort, repair and paint process. Phase 1 also includes ADI, which is the Automated Digital Inspection, which ensures consistency and repeatability in the detection of defects. We plan to invest in the region of $180 million to $220 million between now and the end of fiscal '28 in further rollout of this phase of automation. And this correspond to the objective to reach the 77% of automated lines in -- by fiscal '28. In Phase 2, we introduced new technologies to repair, so to automate the repair process. This includes Klippa, which is the component removal as well our Integrum repair cell. An Integrum repair cell combines an ADI machine, so Artificial Vision Inspection, the Klippa for the component removal and an auto-nailer for automatic element replacement. I want to highlight here that Integrum is the combination of these 3 technologies. But across the Brambles network, there have been many more instances of one or two of these components being installed, thereby still generating benefits but not being categorized as an integral installation. When combined though, the Integrum repair cell has the capability to end-to-end automatically repair up to 1,400 pallets per day. It also significantly improved safety by reducing manual repair tasks and increases efficiency and flexibility by reducing the need for human labor and delivers also an output of enhanced pallet quality and consistency through this automatic inspection and repair process. We want to continue to invest in this area, further $80 million to $100 million in the specific technologies in this program from now until the end of fiscal '28. But instead of hearing from me about each of the elements, let's play now a video to see how this comes to life. So you can see now this is digital twin. It's a technology we use to simulate what happens in our service center and try to test the performance of different new innovations. And you can see the typical layout of a plan where the pallets come, they will be inspected. They go to the removal area. This is the ADI, the automatic inspection. The light blue are the ones that the system has detected have defects. And you will see some of them with red elements. Those are the boards or blocks that need to be removed. Those that are okay, they are fine, they will go up there in that direction. The others will go to the removal process, where Klippa will remove that element, and then it will be sent to the automatic auto-nailer that will place the element after. Any way you will see this live and [indiscernible] better tomorrow when you do the service center visit, this is more for a benefit that people that are online or will see the video later on. And you can see there -- those are the Klippa robots, these 2 robotic arms working in conjunction. While one of them is taking measures of the pallet. The other is placing it in that big gray box, you see there where there is a circular saw that removes the boards that are effective. You will see again that tomorrow here in our San Antonio Service Center. So the 2 robotic arms are working in parallel. And there you see the automatic element replacement, where another robotic arm will grab the required board place it at the right location and apply the nails, which is important because that ensures that the elements are optimally placed and also that the nail pattern is the optimal. I mentioned before how nail placement can be instrumental in durability. So this will ensures that this is always done in an effective way. So I hope you will see that more tomorrow. This is a video of a real automatic element removal. And you can see here, perhaps a little bit better how the 2 robotic comes are working in conjunction. One of them will grab the pallet, while the other is measuring and place it in that tub, you may see a little bit the water that removes the brisk of sparks and dust in the service center, and then the pallet will be put there to go for the painting station. Here is the element placement. You can see how the robot places the board and apply the required nails at the right location. The dual Klippa can do 120 pallets per hour, where the automatic board placement can do 100 pallets per hour. And that is what accounts for the 1,400 pallets per day that you -- I shared with you before. And the vantage, as I said, is the consistent nail placement that I mentioned before. So we have come a long way with Integrum. There are still some challenges, though, that you may see tomorrow. For example, the cell is not able to address all type of pallet defects. It is not able to touch all the elements. For example, the ones in the middle are not accessible due to the way the pallets are handled. It also requires a strong culture of continuous improvement and the development of new specialized skills among our employees, which we are addressing through the introduction of new technical learning and development product. Sorry, you can go to the previous one, previous slide. Yes. When we think -- okay, here. So when we think about automation and our service center network, our aspirational goal is to develop a truly touchless plan. That means a fully automated site that eliminates all human contact with our platforms. This will further improve safety and mitigate labor market risks, and this is very much in the early stages of development. But I want to share with you 3 key design principles to give you an idea of where we are going. The first is 0 human contact with 100% automation from arrival to departure, not just for repairs. The second is that it will be modular and scalable. So it can fit various services center sizes and market needs. And the third is that it will be globally applicable, providing a path to automation even in markets for lower labor costs. This is not an easy undertaking. We are talking about entirely automatic handling and repair of pallets that enter our service center in hugely variable conditions, requiring that we develop incredibly versatile equipment. The solo robotic solution that we could potentially handle and manage this challenge are cutting edge in nature. This means the partner onboarding is tougher, and it means that we need to establish a genuinely collaborative operating model with our partners, quite different from the traditional supplier relationship as we are not buying off the shelf type of equipment. And of course, talent for this sort of endeavor is a premium. And we set up -- we will require our pallet teams to even have greater capabilities than it was for Integrum. We'll be sharing progress on this endeavor in the future. In the meantime, I'd like to close this session with a short video of our plant manager in the Orlando Service Center, [ Darryl Hardy ], with the impact that automation has had in our operations in his team and the value we deliver for customers, hope you find this insightful. [Presentation]

Unknown Executive

executive
#94

As you can see, automation has multiple benefits across elements of our supply chain network for our people, for our customers and for the broader business. In closing, the activities we are undertaking to enhance supply chain support the strategic objectives of Brambles. First, as we continue to strive for efficiencies, this will drive the overall cost to serve down and benefit our customers and also open new lanes and flows, which may have been previously uneconomical to serve. We are a network business, and the density of our network creates further opportunity that can cascade. Network efficiency will also be driven by the continued rollout of automation, which drives safety, productivity and quality outcomes for our customers. On quality, we will continue to invest in our platforms for durability and to enhance our customer experience. And as explained earlier, we'll continue to refine and optimize the network to benefit our customers and brands. So thank you. And I would like now to hand over to Raluca for Q&A.

Anthony Moulder

analyst
#95

Anthony Moulder from Jefferies. Just a few questions. First is the investment that you're making in that Phase I the $180 million to $220 million. How much of that could be to replace existing technology that's being superseded?

Unknown Executive

executive
#96

This is all new equipment. There is a part in addition to this, that will be dedicated to maintenance and replacement. But this is purely new investment. It is true that it will sell, for example, to remove some of the still isolated production area that you may have seen in the first video. So that will be supercede by integrated lines. So it's more replaced outdated equipment like that one then to replace existing ones.

Anthony Moulder

analyst
#97

Okay. And secondly, you commented on the fallen damage rates. How do we reconcile that with an increase in chargebacks that we're seeing specifically in the U.S. market, please?

Unknown Executive

executive
#98

Increasing chart?

Anthony Moulder

analyst
#99

Chargebacks from retailers?

Unknown Executive

executive
#100

I ask Joaquin to...

Joaquin Gil

executive
#101

Yes, from a retailer chargeback standpoint, that's primarily driven -- just to educate the audience on that. So if the shrink wraps off or the stickers the SKU or the pallets off, we deal with that by ensuring that there is an alignment on the specification and what's unique about us is we have our own retail group that works between the manufacturers and the retailers to address that.

James Wilson

analyst
#102

James Wilson from Jarden Australia. Just sort of following up on Anthony's questions around sort of the damage rates that you reported. On Slide 84 from FY '21 to FY '23, obviously, damage rates came down. Can you talk to us about how much was driven by lower asset turns and tightness of supply?

Unknown Executive

executive
#103

One of the issues is that it's very difficult to separate effects. With all things equal, all things being equal, we will see a reduction in damage rate because it has been previously proved in our test track, and we see that introducing those enhancements will reduce certain points of damage rate. But of course, there are variations in the market, as you can see. The thing is that it's very difficult to identify exactly how much of this. What we know is that we want to continue to do what we control. That is basically keep introducing those enhancements, understanding that those variations will be noise in the data. But eventually, the trend will be what we are looking for is that damage rate continues to reduce over time.

James Wilson

analyst
#104

So I guess the follow-up then is that you expect that trend to continue even as sort of asset cycle times normalize and you return to, I guess, more normal and regular volume growth. Do you still expect that trend to continue?

Unknown Executive

executive
#105

Yes. We see that fiscal '24 has been, as explained before, a kind of an anomaly because of the return of those pallets having stayed longer. One, that effect is mostly over, we will see now back to the trend that we expect based on the actual enhancements that we have introduced, and we keep introducing as we speak.

James Wilson

analyst
#106

Okay. And just one more for me. Are you also able to sort of maybe compare the sense of your asset quality relative to some of your competitors in the field?

Unknown Executive

executive
#107

That's probably talking about competitor is something that I wouldn't be doing in this forum, but I don't know if Joaquin wants to complement that.

Joaquin Gil

executive
#108

Maybe to the industry generally, then if you can specify relative to specific competitors.

James Wilson

analyst
#109

What I was going to say is there are some industry reports available that I think some of your colleagues have issued recently in terms of how they see pallet quality. So maybe I'll point you to those and anyone who produces one of those can maybe see you in a break. Is that right?

Joaquin Gil

executive
#110

Sure.

Andre Fromyhr

analyst
#111

Andre Fromyhr from UBS. You made a comment about the benefits of automation leading to continuous improvement in cost to serve and that benefiting your customers. And I guess my question is, how do you make sure that Brambles gets to hold on to a decent share of those benefits so that you're getting a return on the investments you're making with cost to serve based pricing? I can imagine customers really want to get most of those benefits.

Unknown Executive

executive
#112

I would refer back to the targets defined by Joaquin before that we want to generate this 1 point of margin from here to fiscal '28. Automation definitely is a big part of that generation coming from the supply chain initiatives.

Andre Fromyhr

analyst
#113

Yes. My question is more -- sorry. My question is more about the commercial discussions with customers, are they willing to acknowledge the costs of your capital that you've invested, for example?

Unknown Executive

executive
#114

Yes. Look, I think our customers understand that we're investing, and we deserve a return on that investment, right? But I think as Enrique, I think from a customer perspective, the benefits are more from the quality the durability that they get from the pallet that helps their own supply chain. So I think, obviously, price is important to customers, but I think more and more quality, durability, innovation is becoming more important.

Matthew Ryan

analyst
#115

It's Matt Ryan from Barrenjoey. Just following on from an earlier question, how long does this equipment last? I know that it's very early on in terms of the rollout. But do you have a sense of when you'll need to replace it?

Unknown Executive

executive
#116

We have equipment out there from many more [ years ]. We only replace it when really there is a new technology that allows us to have an investment that gives this 4- to 5-year payback. So that means that there is, of course, a theoretical life that is aligned with the depreciation terms that we include. But apart from that, there is more equipment out there that has more life than that. We only replace it again when there is a new technology or an enhancement that either allows better safety for our people or also delivers an additional benefit. So a full payback of 4 to 5 years. So there is some variability on that. That's my short answer.

Matthew Ryan

analyst
#117

And can you comment -- sorry can you comment on how quickly that technology is changing at the moment?

Unknown Executive

executive
#118

Well, what we see, and you may have seen is that we also see technology as incremental, which means that -- the fact that we are introducing Phase III doesn't mean that Phase I or Phase II will be eliminated completely. It means that it will be built on top of. That's why, for example, the modular nature of Phase III is so important. Because we think that it can be built on top of what we have already connecting with existing elements and providing further benefits, for example, in being able to remove and replace more elements than the current technology in Phase I or Phase II.

Owen Birrell

analyst
#119

Owen Birrell from RBC. I just want to get a gauge of the improvement in labor productivity from these automated facilities. I mean, we're looking at the pallets flying through those machines at 100 to 120 pallets an hour. It seems incredibly fast relative to the manual processes that you had previously. I just want to get a sense of a typical plant, what is the number of pallets per day that can go through a fully automated center? And how many people would be in that plant versus what you would have had previously under a manual structure?

Unknown Executive

executive
#120

Well, first of all, I'd like to say that one of the characteristics of our network is the huge variability in dimensions. And this is on purpose. It's not an effect. It's because we are -- we want to be close to our customers. Meaning that we want to keep that very good ratio of customers in that radius that enables better service, that enables also better distances and carbon reduction, which means that we will have service centers in areas that are very density populated where we have many millions of pallets, but also, we have service center in less populated areas. We may have a few hundred thousand platforms coming through. So that is something that allow us to be close to them. So as you can see, the variability is huge. Which means that, again, the type of benefits and type of investment that we do have big variabilities as well. In terms of the benefits we get from it, I will refer back to this 4- to 5-year payback because we always strive for that. That's kind of the threshold, and we are -- we have been able so far, and we think we have ways to continue having those returns in the future.

Owen Birrell

analyst
#121

I guess what I'm trying to understand here is, you're clearly going to get a far greater labor productivity in terms of the number of pallets you can prepare per person and being automated, you need less people. Is there any measure that you can give us? Like is it 50% improvement in labor productivity, 100% improvement in labor? It just seemed incredibly impressive the speed at which those pallets are going through.

Unknown Executive

executive
#122

Talking about number of people, et cetera, is something we don't typically disclose. Let's keep in mind that the first objective for automation continues to be safety improvements. We have better economics and keep our people more safety. Of course, keeping this 4- to 5-year payback. But what is important for us is that today, the work of our people has better conditions than in the past, and there are far less accidents that we used to have. Joaquin, you wanted to comment.

Joaquin Gil

executive
#123

Look, mainly build is you saw our 1 point or more margin improvement by the end of FY '28. That's where you see the productivity benefits flowing through to.

Unknown Executive

executive
#124

Any more questions? Okay. Well, if there are no questions, then we can take a break for lunch. We'll be back here in an hour. Thank you. [Break]

Unknown Executive

executive
#125

Okay. Welcome back for our final 2 presentations for the day, our sustainability update and deep dive into North America. So the first speaker in this session is Juan Jose Freijo, our Chief Sustainability and Product Innovation Officer. JJ joined Brambles not in 2003, but in 2005 and has held various roles in supply chain planning and public affairs. He's been involved in Brambles' sustainability agenda since 2010 and is responsible for the development and implementation of our Global Sustainability Strategy. I will now invite JJ to the stage.

Juan Freijo

executive
#126

Hello, everyone. It is my pleasure to share with you some of the fundamentals, one of the fundamental elements of the Brambles is strategy, brand and even identity, which is sustainability. Yes, my name is JJ Freijo, and I have the privilege to be the Chief Sustainability Officer in one of the most sustainable companies in the world, which is Brambles. During the next 30 minutes, I will be taking you through some of the fundamental aspects of our program and hopefully demonstrated that through this program, Brambles is making a positive impact in the environment, a positive impact also in the communities where we operate, the human communities, also our employees, our customers, the investor community as well. And ultimately, sustainability is making our business much stronger. I think this one -- I would like to start highlighting that sustainability is a key component of the Brambles vision that you have seen today and is articulating the whole Investor Day. It is clear because it is 1/4 of the pie. I mean it has by its own right, 1/4 of the vision. And this is what ensures that it is included in the strategic conversations with the right resources, with the right strategic discussions, et cetera. But probably most importantly or more importantly is that sustainability is embedded -- deeply embedded in each one of the areas of the Brambles' vision. For example, in operational excellence, we can talk about durability programs, for example, that has a super strong connection with sustainability. The best thing that you can do in terms of sustainability with a pallet is not break it and recover it, not lose it. So this is where operational excellence comes and also illuminating digital solutions that allow us to have better tracking and recover more and more pallets. And also, if we go to the customer experience, and we will talk a lot about that, everyone has talked today about how important sustainability is for customers. I can confirm. The pressure is just -- which is a benefit for us, by the way, is just increasing daily on this -- in this aspect. We take sustainability seriously in this company, and we put our hearts and our brains into this. We put a lot of effort and dedication and energy. And I think because of that, we achieved something quite remarkable. We have been recognized externally as a leader in sustainability, and we have been recognized by the most reputable rating organizations in the world. You have on the screen some examples and allow me with a lot of pride to go through some of them. We held the AAA maximum rating in MSCI for a number of years. Three years in a row, we have been the #1 in the Dow Jones Sustainability Index. If you go to the verticals that measure specific parts of our sustainability program in CDP, we have a leadership rating both climate and forestry. And also this year, we are very happy because we entered with big owners, the mainstream communications and market were in the inaugural Time magazine rating. The Time magazine rated more than 5,000 big companies around the world, and we are very proud to say that we ended up in the list on the #4. It seems that we are doing something well here. And many times, I get this question from different people what is it that you're doing? What is the secret of success? What is the recipe of that sauce -- the secret sauce? And reflecting on that, you can tell a story in different ways. But I think reflecting on that, I will summarize it in 3 elements. The first one is that we have ambition. Sustainability for us is not just about complying with legislation or avoiding risk. Of course, we do that, but we do much more than that. The second thing is delivering on that ambition. It's very easy to have a big ambition, but then year-on-year, you need to deliver on that. And I think we have -- I know we have a track record for many, many years on delivering on our public objectives. And the third part, and I know this will be the most interesting part for you is that sustainability brings business value to us. And this is not negotiable. In other conversation that we have in our organization, yes, we want to do the right thing, morally, for the environment and for the communities, but there is always a question on the table. Why is this benefit Brambles or our customers? And this is not negotiable. So let's analyze these 3 elements within our sustainability strategy, ambition, track record of delivering and business value creation. Starting with ambition. What is our sustainability ambition. We want to pioneer a regenerative supply chain. And I highlight the world regenerative because that is the core of what we're trying to do. That is our North Star. Regeneration. For years, supply chains or sustainability, corporate sustainability and supply chain has been working trying to reduce the negative impacts. If we pollute, let's pollute less. If we produce emissions, let's try to produce lower emissions. For us, that is not enough. We want to reach zero impact and then go beyond that restoring the damage that has already been done. That is what is called regeneration. The way I normally explaining is that for the last couple of centuries in the industrial revolution, supply chains have been working, consuming a lot of natural resources and producing waste. We want to design now a supply chain that will consume existing waste and recreate or replenish or regenerate natural resources. With this inspiring vision, we have put together a program that covers all our material areas. A good sustainability program should have a 3 piece; people, profit and planet. As you know, in our case, we call it planet positive, business positive and communities positive. And we have set a series of targets that are material to us, numeric targets quantitative targets, and we measure our performance year-on-year against them, okay? So it is an inspiring vision but then it is taking down to a level that can be actionable for our company and that covers every single aspect of our material issues. When we started with this idea of regeneration in 2020, we were the only ones in a way or there were just a few companies that were talking about regeneration. I remember even having a conversation with some people in the area, saying, "Regen what? I don't even know what that means." Well, 4 years later, we can confirm that we took the right approach. There are many other companies, the leading companies in the area of sustainability that are taking the regeneration idea and making it a fundamental part of their sustainability programs. You have some of our largest customers on the screen who are adopting this idea, and they will need help to make it happen. So we are quite aligned. We started a little bit before that many of them, but that put us in a very good position to continue working in this area. And it is not only companies, it is the governments around the world, the more progressive ones in this area that are adopting regenerative strategy trying to go beyond zero. And it's not only governments as well. It is the investor community, as you know very well, that some of you are already starting to talk more and more about nature, about biodiversity and about regeneration. So it seems that we have the right vision. And it seems that we have the right objective, and that takes me to the second element of the recipe of the secret sauce, which is our progress. In 2020, we set for ourselves, a set of ambitious targets, more than 20 targets to be measured against that cover the 3 areas that I said. And 1 year before the due date, today in 2024, we are extremely proud to say that we had excellent progress year-on-year and now the situation is quite positive. 8 targets have already been achieved before time. Things like having 100% renewable energy in our operations, like designing with thought leaders around the world, circular indices. So other companies can also be more circular and regenerative, impacting 1 million people, so they are more knowledgeable in circular economy and regeneration. And even collaborating with food banks around the world to make sure that people in need have -- because of our supply chain capabilities have something to eat at night. So these have already been achieved. There is another series of targets that are progressing extremely well. We just need to keep the cruise speed to go to the final goal next year. And they are quite difficult things, like having 100% certified timber, chain of custody and decarbonization that we will hear a lot in the next minutes about that. And of course, like every challenging program, an ambitious program, we have some challenges in some of the areas. And waste to landfill customers in collaboration and women in management, we saw that we were progressing a little bit below the line, but we have put in place the right measures to make sure that we would achieve these targets at the end of the year. We have really good progress, but also, we have some proof points that prove that regeneration is a possibility that we can -- that this idea -- this crazy idea and a fascinating idea about building this regenerative supply chain is possible in practice. And I will share with you some examples. It will be impossible. I mean, I went really quickly through our objectives, and I invite you to go to the booth and discuss whatever you want to discuss with me or Marisa or many other sustainability champions that we have in Brambles here today, but it will be impossible to go through each one of them. But I would like, however, to deep dive into a couple of them that probably are particularly relevant for you. The first one is forestry. Everything that we are doing around our timber procurement and our timber management and our timber supply, okay? And let's remind our objectives. We have 3 very clear numeric quantitative objectives. The first one is to maintain 100% certified timber. Every piece of timber that we buy in any country across the world today, comes from certified sustainable sources, okay? And that is very easy in some regions and it's extremely difficult in some regions. I think the quality of our program is that we are doing it in every single geography. Second one is also we are increasing year-on-year, the chain of custody certification, so it's not only us who procures sustainable timber, we are enabling supply chains around the world also to access to the certified timber. And the third one, which is the truly regenerative aspect here is that we have the ambition or the public objective of growing, enabling the sustainable growth of 2 trees for every 3 that we use. For every tree that we use for our pallet, we will make sure that 2 trees are grown sustainably, 1 for the pallet and 1 for the planet, we say. And this is quite challenging. And there are many ways. There are many ways in which you can do these 2 trees for 1. The most basic one is just to pay an NGO, so they plant some trees but we don't believe that, that is the right approach, that solely that is the right approach. As I told you before, in our company, we like to do the right thing while creating tangible value for our company. So let me show an example of how we are bringing regeneration to life for this particular area. Video in, please. [Presentation]

Juan Freijo

executive
#127

So allow me to quote one of the sentences that [indiscernible] in the video says, "Tabasco is an example of how to destroy paradise, but it's also this actually an example of how to bring back paradise." For me, that sentence really summarizes what we are trying to do with our regenerative vision. And this project -- I mean, it actually ticks all the boxes or -- because it impacts in a positive way, obviously, forestation with new trees, biodiversity, bringing species that were disappearing there. And now we are creating new corridors of biodiversity there. socially creating jobs, allowing people to come back to the land where they had to leave for other things, enabling different conversations with the customers and -- sorry, with the government and with the customers as well. And also from the purely business perspective, securing supply of timber at a cheaper price, okay? So I remember when I shared this program, we shared this project with some senior colleagues in the company, they say, "This is fantastic. How much is this going to cost us?" And we say, actually, it's going to save money. So this is the power of regeneration and why we believe that regeneration is possible. Now we will go to another aspect of sustainability that is present in every conversation that I had with you during the last days, which is decarbonization. We know this is very early when we decided in 2020 to adopt the highest level of ambition according to the Paris Agreement. We knew that we needed the right organization, the right strategy, the right resources in place. And we were able to attract to our company a recognized expert, world-class expert in decarbonization, Marisa Sanchez, that has organized a little bit of a revolution within the company, advancing and progressing very well in this decarbonization journey. So Marisa, the floor is yours.

Marisa Sanchez

attendee
#128

Thank you, JJ. a very kind introduction. So in the next 3 slides, I'm going to give you all a brief overview of Brambles climate positive targets, the road map we have in place to deliver on them as well as our performance to date. Brambles climate positive targets are rooted in science, like JJ just said, and they are comprised of both near-term and long-term goals. Importantly, they cover our entire value chain emissions, out of which more than 97% are Scope 3 emissions. Now in the long term, our ambition is to reach net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2040, which is actually 10 years earlier than prescribed by the Paris Climate Agreement. That long-term ambition is supported by near-term goals. In particular, in the very short term, we have a goal to achieve 100% renewable electricity and carbon neutrality in our own operations as well as zero product waste to landfill, which helps us reduce our Scope 3 emissions from waste. And by the end of the decade, we have adopted validated science-based targets to reduce our Scope 1 and 2 emissions by 42% and our Scope 3 emissions by 17%, both in absolute terms and in 2020 levels. So those are our targets. How are we going to deliver? Sitting behind those targets, we have a comprehensive decarbonization strategy that includes an emissions reduction road map to 2040. That road map is designed to be relatively flexible and is cognizant of our dependencies, which you can see on the slide. So for example, we have some levers such as energy efficiency, all electrification of 5 forklift trucks that have no or very little dependencies. This allows us to deploy those levers at a greater speed in the near term. On the other hand, we have other types of levers that have greater dependencies on technology and infrastructure availability and deployment as well as supportive policy environment in our key jurisdictions. Obviously, that makes those levers a little bit trickier to deploy, and our road map is designed to progress them as much as visible in the near term and seek to maximize them in the next decade. As you can imagine, influencing those key dependencies is a very important aspect of our decarbonization strategy. And we do so by creating a strong demand signal for the technologies our road map is going to need, as well as advocating for supporting policies. If you noticed in the previous slide, around 60% of our global emissions are from subcontracted transport. This means this is our biggest challenge ahead. And we don't shy away from that challenge. We are proactively tackling it by optimizing our networks. Enrique mentioned that before. We want to optimize our routine and our truckloads, but we are also looking to shift road trade to rail and see where feasible. That alone can reduce emissions by 60% to 70%. And we are also working with our carriers to progressively transition the truck fleets to low and zero emission solutions. But beyond those operational efforts that you can see on the screen, of course, subcontracted transport is going to be a core area for our program, and we're going to spend a lot of time in terms of supplier engagement and policy efficacy going forward. So I told you about the targets, I told you about the plan. So now I'm going to tell you about how we're performing. And what you can see in the screen is that our decarbonization strategy is delivering results. Our emissions reduction trajectory, which is the blue line on the screen, continues to exceed the minimum requirements of our science-based targets, which is the purple trajectory there, both for Scope 1 and 2 and Scope 3 emissions. If I bring your attention to the Scope 1 and 2 graph first, you can see we have a steeper reduction earlier in the implementation of our strategy. That was to do with us attacking the low-hanging fruit, which in particular was 100% renewable electricity in our own operations. Now if we go to the Scope 3 graph, I want to draw your attention to the steep decrease we registered in FY '24. In FY '24, as you know, and has been discussed, we had an environment of low CapEx for pulling equipment, driven by inventory optimization and improved asset recovery rates. The rest of the reduction that you see there is actually related to subcontracted transport, okay? Now we are mindful of what's behind that 14.7% and that those circumstances will not stay as they were in fiscal year '24. And therefore, our emissions from pooling equipment are projected to turn into an upward trajectory in FY '25 as we increase our CapEx to pooling equipment to service volume growth. So we know that. Our focus remains on delivering on the operational road map I showed you in the prior slide. Our focus is on decoupling those pooling equipment emissions from our CapEx purchases and continue to deliver in emissions reductions for the non-CapEx related Scope 3 emission sources, primarily subcontracted transport, subcontracted operations. But one message I want to leave you with is that this performance needs to be taken in the context of Brambles already being a relatively low emissions intensity business because of our circularity. Our share and reuse business model is in itself a decarbonization advantage for our customers when you compare it with a single-use linear alternative, okay? But by decarbonizing our value chain further, we continue to add value to our customers' Scope 3 goals. As Graham said earlier today, they are also trying to work out how they are going to achieve their goals. And therefore, our sustainability value proposition is becoming more and more relevant for them. So by performing the way we are performing, we are contributing to our customers' climate strategies, which mean we are contributing to the long-term resilience in the marketplace. And this has created some level of stickiness on the basis of our sustainability commitments. And on the topic of customer value creation, I'll hand it over to JJ to share with you how else the sustainability program creates value for our customers. Thank you.

Juan Freijo

executive
#129

Thank you, Marisa. So we saw the ambition. We saw how we are delivering on the ambition. And now the third part of the secret sauce that I was telling you about at the beginning is the business value creation. What does this mean? All these for us? And I believe that it is very difficult to find an area in Brambles that is not benefiting from our top sustainability credentials. The list is very long. Digital, we have seen it. Talent. Graham talked this morning about we are attracting the best talent at every single level of the organization, not just a senior or a junior level. Government affairs. Our sustainability credentials is allowing us to have the right conversations with governments to educate them in what circular economy means in practice and also to achieve things like protection for legal title, not for our assets, so they come back. That's something that we have done in some countries. But I would like to focus now on one specific aspect, which is the commercial one. And we have developed full sustainability, customer value proposition around our program. And this is a value proposition that is tailored to the need of each different customer. Not every customer is the same. We have made a segmentation in 3 areas. The first one is some of our customers are not very interested in sustainability, fewer and fewer. For those, we have the best credentials. At least, we don't bring risk into their supply chain. At least our timber is 100% certified maybe something that our competitors cannot say. So we can ensure that we don't bring risk into the supply chain. Some other customers are more sophisticated, and they have public sustainability targets and they need to deliver on that. And this is where we can use our share and reuse business model, and we can give them the numbers certified or through a peer review life cycle analysis that they can use for their own objectives and for their own sustainability reports. And thirdly, for those customers that are on the leading edge, they want to collaborate. They want to do more. They want digital solutions that will allow them to reduce their capital footprint under waste or they will want transport collaboration to reduce Scope 3. Actually, Scope 3 is a challenge for every company. For us, it is a challenge and an opportunity, because as it is more difficult to allow our customers to achieve, we will have more opportunity to help them with. So this is the structure of our sustainability value proposition. And our customers do appreciate that. You can see on the screen some communications for some of our customers, some of them bigger, some of them are smaller. And this is how customers are publicly recognizing how we contribute to their sustainability targets. These are taken public information from LinkedIn, from the social media of our customers acknowledging how we are helping with the sustainability journey. And the pressure -- the good pressure on us is just increasing year-on-year, okay? I would like to introduce now a new concept that we have introduced in the last year. Historically, we were able to demonstrate, and we are using it more and more that when we compare our solution with Whitewood, something very relevant in many markets and in the U.S. for growth as well, we have -- we can provide immediate sustainability benefits in terms of carbon emissions or waste or use of natural resources. We have scientific ways to prove this, and this is the certification that our customers use many, many times. But -- and this is to grow the business and to convert from Whitewood to CHEP, this is a very useful tool. Now we have introduced something that is also very linked to some of the conversations that we have here this morning, which is the circularity index. It's comparing the current use of the CHEP pallets against the ideal perfect circular use of the CHEP pallet. It is sitting with customers,and thinking together how we can reduce the cycle times, the losses and the damage, so they get the environmental and financial benefits for them as well. And this is working very well. Also, this has been proven now to be a really good entry point to have a different kind of conversations specifically with retailers, okay? And well, we have a little bit of a testimonial now of one of our customers, this short video that will illustrate what I was saying here. Please, video in. [Presentation]

Juan Freijo

executive
#130

I think it's very good to have all lies within our customers' companies to make it -- that want to lose less pellets. That is one the benefits that sustainability brings. So sustainability is important for our customers. Probably some of you are thinking, yes, but is this a differentiator versus your competitors? And the answer is yes, it is. On the screen, you have a study that we have done, the American team of the CHEP -- public information from CHEP against white -- public information from whitewood and from a couple of our competitors in the region. I will not go into the whole list, but as you can see, we are in a very different composition. Our competitors don't have the scientifically approved life cycle analysis that can demonstrate the benefits, dedicated teams, tools to enable transport collaboration, the credentials that we have. The list continues on and on, but we believe and we believe that we are in a -- we have a competitive advantage here also because our customer base confirms that. Okay. So we talk about mission, delivering and value creation. Now I would like to finalize talking about the future of the program, what happens next. We have the intention to continue to be in this leading space in sustainability in the years to come. And we want to do that because it's morally the right thing to do, but because as you have seen, is producing a lot of positive impact in our business. So our intention is to continue in that direction. And one of the things that we do is to continue and we have a radar monitor what are the trends that will shape sustainability in the next years. And every study has different components, but there are some of them that continuously you see in all the studies. One of them is climate and scope 3. You have seen how we are tackling that challenge. Exploring digital sustainability thanks for everything that you are doing to bring together with technology and sustainability. Supply chain integration, I would like to clarify that -- we -- all our sustainability targets have a supply chain scope. That is the good way to do sustainability these days. Reporting and transparency, and this actually gives me the occasion to thank some of you because for 3 years in a row, our sustainability report has been awarded as the best in the Asia Pacific region, but the Australasian -- Australasian Investor Relations Association. If you belong to the association, maybe some of you have voted for that. So thanks for that. And you have some -- some examples of that in our book that we would love to share with you. And finally, nature, biodiversity and regeneration. As you have seen, we are taking care of this with our forestry program, et cetera, but this is just going to grow a lot. Nature in the sustainability world, what you hear now is nature is the next climate, only that much more critical. So with that in mind, and I finish here, during the next year, we will be focusing our efforts on. First of all, completing this phase of the sustainability program, delivering on our 2025 targets. And then we will be consulting internal and external stakeholders, we have already started to build the next phase of the sustainability program. Actually, we had some conversations with some of your ESG specialists about the expectations. While you will see in this program that will be published next year, it is for sure more regeneration. It is the right thing to do for us. So we will continue with regeneration. We will include nature in a more explicit and tangible way. Digital will be more present, and we will try to leverage even more our leadership position with the increases in demand of our customers in this area. And with this, when we put this program in place, we will hope that we will continue having a program that will deliver the right positive impact in the environment, in the communities where we operate. In the investor community as well and ultimately making our business much stronger. Thanks. And now we'll go to the Q&A. Yes. directly, if you have any questions, Marisa and myself or as I said, the other sustainability champions in the room will be very happy to answer.

Anthony Moulder

analyst
#131

Anthony Moulder from Jefferies. I just wanted to understand collaborations with customers, just your experience as to how that's evolving? And have you seen an increase in collaborations with customers because it seems like ESG fell off a little bit from a market perspective. So just interested as to whether or not you're seeing that increase.

Juan Jose Freijo

executive
#132

We see -- I mean, I've been in this since the very beginning, since 2010. So I have seen that many years ago, it was just a few companies in the -- I can't talk about the FMCGs, which are our customers. And we see that some of the leaders in this area wanting to start collaborating and that increases steadily a lot until after the pandemics. Then after the pandemic, supply chains of the world were stressed, and we had issues with pallet availability, with timber availability and our suppliers and our customers have a [indiscernible]. And I saw that, that decrease, then the interest decrease. And now it is going up again. And I know in some geographies, not in all geographies, this is becoming quite a political thing. But companies that take the consumer companies, fast mover consumer good companies that are taking this very seriously. They all say the same. I mean we stay true to our beliefs. We know this is the future, and we will advance that. So in short, I don't know of any company of any big company that is backing up maybe they are not so -- in some of the public statements, they use some different words, but they really want to achieve their sustainability targets because consumers want that. And if consumers want that, they need to fulfill theirs. So we see it increasing, but we saw a stop for some time after the pandemics.

Unknown Executive

executive
#133

Just to build on that as well. A lot of the types of collaborations we do with our customers, actually deliver financial benefits to them as well beyond sustainability. So that keeps obviously the interest going.

Reinhardt van der Walt

analyst
#134

Reinhardt from Bank of America. Are you seeing any of your customers requesting alternative materials, synthetic materials at all as part of their efforts towards reducing emissions in the supply chain?

Juan Jose Freijo

executive
#135

From the sustainability perspective, we see that there is some customers want materials that are sustainable. But they don't have a clear preference for one or the other. And if they do, when we explain what is behind it, that they understand it. And if you operate a circular business model like the one that we operate, I often get this question. What is more sustainable? Maybe this is what is behind your question, plastic or timber. And the answer to that is reuse. When you see the difference between 2 reusable systems with plastic or with timber, the environmental impacts are very similar. Because the inflow happens once and then that we use up as many, many times. So the impact of the inflow of the different materials is diluted by the number of users that is done. So that is something the real difference here is not so much the materials. It's how the materials can enable more durability and more reuseability. And I've gone through different phases in sustainability. I remember a long, long time ago, some people saying, "Oh, using timber is a terrible thing because you're killing trees." Fortunately, we changed that mindset because we know that sustainable forestry is something extremely positive and recommended by leading organizations. And then on plastics and people say, "Oh, plastics that plastic is not deadly, plastic is there, and we need to use it in the right way." So yes, material, I think everyone in reusable packaging who really understand sustainability should be material agnostic because the secret is in the number of reuses.

Reinhardt van der Walt

analyst
#136

Sorry, I just ask one more, if I could. On the comparison with competition, I think why we're having a silver rating your own platinum gold, but higher than one of your other pooling competitors in the U.S. Do you know why if that's not a reuse model, it's a one-way trip on all why that would get a silver writing is oppose to a performance?

Juan Jose Freijo

executive
#137

Yes, because the certification, the rating that you're referring to is called cars and EcoVadis is how our customers rate, their suppliers. It is an -- and that is the tool that measures not only carbon emissions, not only waste, it measures all aspects in sustainability, including working conditions, including et cetera. So -- what you see there is a result of -- is the result not on the whole whitewood industry because there is not such a thing to apply for the certification is one operator of whitewood and well, they are better than our competitors. That's all I can say. They are not better than us, but they are doing better than our competitor. But it's not just a similarity.

Reinhardt van der Walt

analyst
#138

Does that represent a big change for the white collared industry, do you think?

Juan Jose Freijo

executive
#139

The fact that.

Reinhardt van der Walt

analyst
#140

Clearly it has improved, if the customers are thinking that they're more sustainable than they were in the past because...

Juan Jose Freijo

executive
#141

No. That is just one element. That is just one element. I think if I was a customer and I had to choose between I mean, you take the whole thing, not just one -- any final question? We will be around for any conversation. Thank you.

Unknown Executive

executive
#142

Thank you, J.J. and Marisa. And now for our final presentation. I would like to I would like to invite David Cuenca to kick off our deep dive into North America. Welcome, David.

David Cuenca

executive
#143

So good afternoon, everyone, and it's an honor for me to open this North America section. For those of you that we didn't have the opportunity to engage either yesterday or today or for the people that is following virtually. Let me first introduce myself. So I joined Brambles 24 years ago and during this period I've been living in Spain, I've been living in Czech Republic, in Mexico and North America now to best support of the business. I've been leading businesses in Latin America and most recently, Europe and the experience and the success in this role is allowing me to bring insights into the North America business, especially when it comes to managing our portfolio and delivering sustainable growth. But it also allows me to leverage relationships across the group to ensure that we collaborate that we share and implement best practices. And at the end, that will land from each another. Before Brambles, I spent 17 years in a software company, the last 5 of which I was leading the finance function. I am a people leader that believes in leaving the Eagle at the door to foster innovative, transparent and inspiring work environment that empowers our people to deliver their best. Now the agenda today, I'm going to be introducing yourself an overview of the North American business than what we achieved over the last 4 years. How do we see the market conditions forward? And then what is our commitment as a business. After that, the team is going to join me into the stage, and they are going to provide more details on how we are going to execute the plans to deliver these commitments. And it's going to be following our 4 strategic focus areas. So let's get started with the overview of the North American business, but also my first observations after 60 days in the role, and why I do believe that we have the right organization and the right strategy to deliver. So you see some figures in the screen. We delivered $3 billion revenue last fiscal year. That's 47% of Brambles revenue and was through our 3,500 engaged employees. And we were moving with our customer manufacturers around 1 million pallets every day. Now why I think that we have the right organization and strategy. Let me tell you that we observed during the 60 days is that we have an incredibly skilled and passionate organization at all levels. But we also have a significant white space in front of us, ready to be converted. And actually, we have enhanced commercial capabilities, both from a people and systems standpoint. We also -- and I think we have the foundations in place to deliver this growth, and we have the competitiveness initiatives that ensure that we are going to remain competitive and enhance our competitiveness. We have an experienced leadership. They have deep knowledge. They have a clear customer-centric culture, and they know what their business needs and they know what the market needs. And then last, what I observed is that over the last 4 years, set North America transformed completely. So -- it's a greater company, is a more resilient company. And I'm going to show you through what we did with customer, commercial, our network but also our assets, how this business transforms. Because the market volatility that the pandemic was driving helps us to accelerate the initiatives to transform our business. And they made us operationally more efficient, greater value to our customers and a better steward for the environment. Let's start with the customer. We embedded customer centricity as a core value for our business. And actually, this is not just only North America. This is all across the group. So Brambles is now a customer center reorganization. And I'm going to bring you an example here in North America. So if we look back 3 years ago, the market situation was that it was pallet scarcity. The timber and pallet prices were high. And we made a conscious decision to keep investing in new pallets, even at these prices. And it was through a customer lens. So we thought that we needed to support our existing customers and to keep the economy running. And I know that not all the poolers can say the same, but we are proud that we did it. And then we listen to our customers. And they were pretty clear on the 4 things they wanted us to change, to evolve. There was order, it was delivery, it was collection and it was responsiveness. And we made it. We embraced a lot of initiatives to improve these 4 areas and the feedback that our customers are telling is that we made it. And it's been a significant improvement in the NPS score. We made some investments in quality, and you will hear more from Tyler later on. And then when we look to our commercial team, we have a more sophisticated commercial approach. And it's both from skills and capabilities but also systems. You need to know that our commercial team over the last years because of the impacts of the pandemic, they needed to support the existing customers, so protecting our customers. but also the asset efficiency initiatives. Now recently, as everything is stabilizing, we decided that we need to go again to the market to sell our value proposition against [ White ]. So we up-skill the teams. We train them. And we have more sophisticated tools. We are in a transition to value-based pricing as Prem was mentioning. We have more granularity about cost to serve. So we are more sophisticated commercially. And finally, we are expanding the number of solutions that we have to offer to our customers. And Vishal will speak about transport collaboration, management change, but also the digital link with everything that Matt was sharing around digital customer solutions. Now -- what we did with our network, we invested in high-return projects, high-return projects to deliver efficiencies like automation or to deliver procurement savings like sawmill investments or customer experience, so the quality investments. We continued the improvement in safety and production efficiency. And Graham was introducing [indiscernible] is increasing in North America, and there is long way to go still. And then we were increasing the number of decarbonization initiatives, being an example in North America, the electrification of the vehicles or the forklifts. And then asset. If I need to summarize in one sentence, what we did in asset efficiency, we made structural improvements into our asset efficiency. And that was a combination of things. So it was, as Helen was describing Targeted diagnostics, continued diagnostics. But at the end, what they do is they illuminate the supply chain, and we are able to identify new sources of losses and then being able to collect. But it's been also initiatives to increase collection in what we call the high-risk recovery locations and the low-volume locations. And this is a combination of specialized teams on the field, but also special vehicles to have more accessibility to these locations. Now when it comes to the big players, the top retailers, we launched the retailer value framework that essentially, what it means is mutual value. So we are approaching the retailers in a different way, seeking for partnership, trying to understand their challenges and their needs. And how we can help them rather than just having a supplier relationship, bringing sustainability to the relationship. But also for them to understand how they can help us to improve cycle time and to reduce losses. So everything that we did over the last 4 years, it's been powered by technology, data and digital capabilities. And this is something that you will hear a lot during the presentation today because it's been critical to deliver all these achievements, but it's going to play a fundamental role in the future to deliver on our commitments. So now we are going to move. Because we know what we did. It's important now for us to understand what is the market environment that we have in front of us where we need to be playing. Before that, those are 10 KPIs that are showing the impact that had into the business, this transformation. So I'm not going through all of them, but you will see 36 points improvement in Net Promoter Score. In my experience, this is amazing. And the most important is if we look to the granularity of the answers, our customers are confirming that we are doing better in the 4 areas they were asking us. In asset efficiency, 9-point reduction in pooling CapEx to sales ratio with a strong contribution from an 18% reduction in uncompensated losses. We improved 4 points that I delivered in for long time. That's been a combination of internal collaboration, but also partnering with the external carriers. Almost 2/3 of our production is coming from automated lines, and this is having a deep impact into consistency, hence, customer experience. We are a safer company. So 6 point reductions in incident frequency rate. And finally, sustainability. So amazing figures. So you see that all our timber is coming from certified sources. You see that 95% of our sites are having solutions to avoid waste to the landfill. And finally, 16,000 tons CO2 emission reduction. That is a combination of our circular model and collaboration with our customers. So now that's what we did. Let's see what are the market conditions because as the impacts of the pandemic are stabilizing a little bit, we see new market conditions. And probably this is something that other companies have seen as well. But we see increased automation across the supply chain because of the labor challenges, both in cost and availability. We see a proliferation of artificial intelligence and advanced data analytics that at the end is seeking, it's unlocking productivity, but also innovation. We see many consumers facing cost of living pressure and they are changing their behaviors. So that means more share for value retailers and for private label products. And we see a strong focus among our customers on cost reduction, inventory optimization and e-commerce. On sustainability, I think J.J. was speaking about it, but we see wider awareness among customers, consumers and shareholders. We see an increased funding, federal funding here in North America. For the sustainability initiatives. And we see an increase in the share of companies that are setting scope 3 emission reduction targets. And last, our industry. So we see rational behaviors in the pooling industry. And when it comes to whitewood, we see both price and inventories stabilizing. And that's very important because this is going to allow us to convert from whitewood. So we see now the environment that we have in front of us. I think it's now time to share with you what our commitments as a business for the next 4 years. And I think the summary that is easy to remember is that we are going to be a key contributor to Brambles investor value proposition. And how we are planning to do is going to be delivering mid-single-digit revenue growth, high single-digit profit growth and a strong cash generation. On revenue, it's going to be a combination of 3 factors. So it's going to be increased contribution from net new wins. On organic or like-for-like volumes is going to be aligned with the prevailing market conditions. And then we're going to keep the commercial discipline to address cost to serve. And this is answering some of the questions, potential. So we are going to keep the commercial discipline. On the profit, it's going to be obviously enhanced competitiveness, so through supply chain excellence and durability, but also a reduction in the loss rates. And that's going to be a combination -- of let's say, elevated asset collection is going to be also people is going to be customer collaboration, and it's going to be technology as well. We are going to also have an eye on the organizational design. We want to ensure that we have the optimal design. So there's going to be work also on the overheads. So we want to be competitive. And then on cash generation, asset efficiency is going to be a key contributor because is reducing the capital intensity of our business. And this is having a dual impact one in profit and one in [ gas]. Our commitment is that we are going to keep investing in people, digital and supply chain initiatives to deliver further value to our customers and to our shareholders. Now that you know our commitments, I think it's time to provide a little bit more of detailed granularity on the initiatives that we are going to execute that are going to drive us to deliver these commitments. And to do that, we are going to follow our 4 strategic focus areas. So customer centricity and growth, innovation, asset efficiency and network productivity. And to do that, the team will join. So Drew Merrill, our sales, customer experience and I think, it's also a marketing leader will share with us everything that we are doing to delight our customers and to deliver sustainable growth against white. Next, Vishal Patell, our strategy and transformation leader will speak about innovation. It's going to be new solutions that we build or we are building to deliver value to the customers. It's going to be managed recovery. It's going to be transport collaboration, but also the digital customer solutions that we've been speaking. The next Tyler, Tyler Vassar our supply chain leader for North America. He's going to speak about safety, automation, productivity, so network productivity. Last thing I want to say is that all these 4 areas, everything that the team is going to be sharing is going to be underpinned by what I call or for fundamentals. So being people, we need to ensure that we retain and attract the best and most diverse available talent and that we are working in a safe company. It's going to be keeping and enhancing our digital capabilities for the future. Keeping and elevating the sustainability credentials and not just as Craig and J.J. were saying because it's the right thing to do, but it also allows us to attract talent and elevate our value proposition. And last but not least, boosting innovation to deliver new value to our customers. With that, I'm going to hand over to Drew. Drew?

Drew Merrill

executive
#144

Thank you for the intro David. And look, well, it's been great working with you so many years in different regions. I just have to say I'm so excited to have you now leading our North American business. Okay. So I'm going to spend the next 20 minutes focused on growth in the U.S. And I think this is a timely discussion given some of the questions that have come up over the last few days. Things like how does CHEP grow when whitewood is at an all-time low from a price standpoint? With price-sensitive consumers, how does CHEP grow profitably, given the pressure retailers are putting on manufacturers to contain cost. So I'll get into all those questions. But I first want to start with the customer. What are we doing to ensure a best-in-class seamless customer experience. Then I'll get into the where, the how and the why behind growth. And by the end, I hope I'll leave you with 4 things: one that our customer is front and center, and we are obsessed with improving the customer experience. From where we grow, we now have a large revised addressable market analysis with a prioritized plan for growth. And from how we grow, we have a compelling value offering against our primary competitive platform, whitewood. And lastly, why, our customer value proposition is stronger than ever. Customers continue to choose CHEP as their supply chain partner of choice. Okay. So back to the customer. We heard David walk through some impressive metrics, 36-point improvement in Net Promoter Score, 9 percentage point improvement in customer satisfaction, 4% improvement in [indiscernible], so what are some of the things behind that. Simply put, we listen to our customers. We identified key friction points. And then we invested in digital and data solutions to help address them. Let's look at the first friction point you see on the left of the slide there, account health. So this is surrounding everything with transaction management, audit risk. You heard Joaquin, you heard Helen talk about proactive alerts now that are sent to the customer to prevent data issues well before it gets to auto time. You also heard about our anomaly detection solutions we have in play. So as transactions are shipping from or being sent from our manufacturer to a retailer, we have some cleansing that goes on leveraging checks and balances there to avoid an audit challenge on the retailer side that we have to reverse later on in the process. So what is this resulting for us? Well, there's a few things. From a timeliness perspective, we now have 99% of our transactions declared in less than 90 days. 95% of those are less than 30 days. Also though, about accuracy of the data, we've seen a reduction significantly in year-over-year manufacturing pallet losses, which Vishal will get into in a little bit in his section. Second friction point is around order management. So this is everything to do with placing, canceling, modifying an order. That infamous question, where is my load and in this end, we developed 3 tools that really harmonize our systems to provide an end-to-end view. The first one we have, you'll see there is called proactive orders as a service. This tool simplifies the process of planning and placing orders by automatically creating weekly customized views down to the customer. And it's based on things like past order history, their preferred day of delivery, the week the seasonality they may be impacting or more importantly, the future overlay of what their actual forecast is. We've rolled this out to almost all customers. We will have this done by the end of this fiscal year. We'll have 100% leveraging this and just some statistics that are interesting, 2 large FMCG customers. One had 20%, the other 15% of cancellation of weekly standing orders. Both of those have been reduced to less than 5%. So why is that important? Well, reduces the admin burden for the customer, #1. It reduces the cost for the customer because they're no longer carrying this excess inventory or having to do last-minute loads. And third, J.J., you would be proud and improve sustainability, right. That's proactive order as a Service. The next one is called CHEP-AIR. AIR stands for Automated Inventory Replenishment. So you have the planning upfront. But what CHEP-AIR is doing is continuously monitoring how are we executing against those planned loads and they make an automatic weekly -- or sorry, daily order adjustments to account for that leveraging near real-time inventory of the pallets. So how do we see this inventory? Well, we now have most of our dedicated trailers. They have on top a GPS sensor, so we know where it is within the customer's yard, it also has a load sensor on it. So we can see is that trailer empty, full, sit at the dock. By the end -- so right now, we have 74% of our dedicated trailers outfitted with these we will have that up to 95% by the end of this fiscal year. And then the third piece of that train is dynamic ETA, estimated time of arrival. I think most of you are familiar with this. But this is for all individual orders leaving our service centers going to our customers. They can now go into my CHEP our portal, click on the dynamic link and see their truck going down the road. Real-time status updates and an estimated arrival based upon real traffic conditions, provides that peace of mind and ability to plan further. If we look at the last friction point, responsiveness. Let me point out just by addressing those first 2 alone, we've seen considerable reduction in inbound call volume, right? So that's going to improve our response time allow us to make more proactive outbound calls to our customers. But we're also working on developing more of an omnichannel response to our customers, meeting the customers where they want to talk to us. They want a self-help option. They can go into what we've recently launched called CHEP-AVA, Automated Virtual Assistant. This is an AI-enabled chat platform where you can ask questions and get some standard responses status of the order, et cetera. If you want to talk to a customer service offering, we have 24/7 phone coverage any time of the week, any time of the night, and on weekends to service our customers. And lastly, if you want to eyeball us or if there's an issue that requires us to be out in the field, we've invested in our field personnel now we're in any manufacturing location in the U.S., we can get to them within less than a 2-hour drive. There are many other great programs and future plans we have. If you haven't had a chance to meet [ James Glover ], our Vice President of Customer Experience, raise your hand. If you didn't connect with them last night, please spend some time with him. He's in charge of a lot of these programs and the impact it's having on our customers in the future. Right now that we reviewed what we're doing to build a strong CX Foundation for growth, let's pivot to where we are going to grow. Graham referenced earlier, we've brought in an industry-leading consulting partner to help us refresh our addressable market analysis. Let's unpack this for the U.S. On the left-hand side, you'll see a bar chart. This breaks out our newly U.S. addressable market, and there are a few key takeaways. First and foremost, you'll see our addressable market has expanded significantly since the last review in FY '21. So what are some of the factors driving this? First, we've recently harmonized our market-sizing methodology, we've done this across all Brambles regions. And so we now have a globally consistent and most importantly, externally validated approach, true benefit going forward. Second, we refreshed all the baseline data. It's now up to 2023. Third, we've added a number of emerging segments. You heard a little bit about this earlier. So emerging segments, as we went through the knowledge sharing and harmonization process, we found either categories or channels, where we're having success in other regions, and it may have a limited presence in the U.S. So in that case, we've expanded our addressable market looking forward. And lastly, and less of an impact, we optimized our portfolio during the pandemic to address a few high-risk or high-cost customers. That's the size change. The next key point you'll see there, we continue to be the pooling market leader with 33% market share compared to 8% of all poolers, which we believe continues to be one of our largest differentiators given our scale. And one more point, you'll see in the white space, 59% of that whitewood -- sorry, the addressable whitespace is primarily whitewood. So it's extremely important for us to have a very clear value proposition that's compelling to convert to CHEP. If you move to the right-hand side of the slide, this pie chart breaks out the addressable whitespace, and that white space does not include poolers. And you'll see that it's broken down into near, mid and long term. So what's behind the categories? If it's near term, it means we can use our existing platform, our existing business model, existing value proposition, business as usual. If it's medium term, that still applies. However, there may require some modification from a customer behavior, from a business model, from an operational input to unlock that growth. And if it requires any type of product innovation, that would deem it into the long term. So to get a bit more granular on that, we'll double click in a second, but I want to leave you with the fact that over 30% of of our market share is addressable today, and over 80% without product innovation. So bottom line, we have ample and fertile ground for growth. Looking behind that pie chart, let's get a better understanding of how we're prioritizing that growth. So to focus our go-to-market resources, the addressable market was prioritized by category. The growth prioritization framework that you see in the left -- on the left there, it evaluates each category based on 3 things: It's attractiveness, it's essentially relative pooling potential. CHEPs right to win. So what is our current relative share position, which indicates strength of our value proposition. And lastly, is the category's relative size or volume opportunity. So you'll see an orange bubble there that says SS foods, that's shelf-stable foods. Very attractive for us, strong right to win, strong share positions, strong opportunity space. That's a near term. You contrast that with packaging, which is the purple bubble there. Interesting thing about packaging is that when we did the knowledge share, and we found out that Europe, David's former neck of the woods, was actually fairly penetrated in this space. So now we're working on what are they doing differently that we can use here to potentially unlock that potential in a midterm situation. It's a very summarized view of our existing plan. I have to say it does not include subcategories. It doesn't include the channels behind it, but we wanted to demonstrate some of the rigor we have behind the planning. But bottom line, it's this prioritization that's driving our innovation, it's driving our value creation offers and most importantly, our commercial focus, whether that's sales engagements or personalized marketing campaigns. Okay, now that we're clear on where we are growing. Let's talk a little more about how we will grow. So with almost 60% of our addressable whitespace consisting of whitewood, let me bring to life some of the key value drivers to compel prospects to convert from whitewood to CHEP. I'll get to this picture in a second. It's relevant for this slide. First and foremost, the size and scale of our network is just as much a differentiator of whitewood as it is with our pooling competitors. With our density and sheer magnitude of supply chain points, we meet the #1 requirement of customers, which is consistent availability. And in my view, this is the Achilles heel of whitewood. Because whether you're a big or a small whitewood provider, you will always be competing for supply, where CHEP is simply just recovering our assets. With whitewood providers, because the supply of cores, they're purchasing, their raw materials from retailers is typically a short-term contract, the volume and pricing is volatile and it's highly competitive. If and when that source of cores is lost, it limits local availability without making very cost-prohibitive relocations, which is just not palatable within the whitewood environment. CHEPs pooling model and scale makes us a nonissue. I give you an example. We just converted a watermelon grower down in the Southeast 2 months ago. Their primary concern, they must have pallets immediately available when they harvest. They have a line that if it doesn't sell, it smells, right? So one of the reasons they move to CHEP, we could provide that supply assurance. They had to ensure that when it was ready to come out of the ground, pallets had to be there. Second one, you'll see there, consistently delivering high-quality pallets. So if you just take the 2 specifications, whitewood, Grade A versus a CHEPs spec. On the whitewood grade A, the repaired spec is very inconsistent. It's not using the same type of lumber. It's tough to handle given its 2-way entry. There are large gaps on the top between the top boards, which affects low distribution and can increase product damage. It has limited racking capability and most large retailers will not let Grade A whitewood in if the weight is over 2,100 pounds due to safety and risk. So you put that up against a CHEP pallets spec any manufacturer in the U.S. ordering from us is getting a consistent spec that meets the requirements of the retailer and manufacturing base. All of them have 4-way entry for any type of material handling equipment out there. If you look at the top dead coverage, we have 82% of that top deck cover. You'll see the pallets in there. It's a very thin amount of a narrow gap between the various boards. And then because we can free span rack in any direction, we increase warehouse density and safety. But if you take those facts, what's becoming even more important now is the increase in customer automation, with the CHEP pool block pallet, it has full coverage on the bottom deck, which means it can handle multiple automated conveyance systems. With Grade A whitewood, that is not the case. It can cause snags and line downtime. Larger customers, as they're going through this journey is pretty self-evident. If they're automating, they can clearly see the benefit between whitewood and CHEP. However, smaller CHEP prospects, they may be earlier in their automation journey. So why would they just work fine within their 4 walls. Product could be light, their internal handling to just use a manual pallet jack. They don't require racking. This is where it becomes our commercial team's responsibility to highlight the impact that whitewood is having on the entire ecosystem of the supply chain. If you look at the picture there, you'll see that we have loads of whitewood supported on CHEP pallets. This is a picture from a retail distribution center. If you walk any retailer DC in the U.S., this is not an uncommon site. It could be because they needed to rack it and they had to have it on a CHEP pallet. It could be so they could actually convey it in their plant with their forklift could be automation reasons. They want to help it move down the line. Whatever the case, it's introducing supply chain inefficiency and cost unnecessarily into this retailer's DC. Vishal will talk a little bit about how we're piecing together our relationships with the retailers to drive some advocacy and understanding for the whole ecosystem, so it all benefits. The third differentiator I'll go into is lowest total cost of ownership. So I said earlier, how does CHEP convert whitewood when pricing is an all-time low. I think there have been a few questions around that. It comes down to focusing on the total cost of ownership, right? It's not just comparing the cost of the use of CHEP ballot versus the price of a whitewood pallet. I'll give you a recent example. So in the Northwest, we recently converted an egg manufacturer from whitewood to CHEP. Initially on paper, we were more expensive than them. If you look at the cost of whitewood pallet of what they could get in that region versus CHEP, we were higher. But once we understood their entire supply chain, and we could explain to them that they're able to get 2 more towers of product on every single outbound load they have, and they could reduce product damage, which was consistently happening tipped the scale in our favor from a total cost of ownership position. The last 2, as for sustainability, J.J., I think you did a great job explaining the benefits over whitewood and really the fact that customers truly value our ability to support their journey and fact-based ESG commitments. And with delivering value-added solutions, there's a lot more to unpack there. So I might have Vishal talked to that in a bit about what we're doing to support on cost reductions well beyond the pallet through our solution portfolio. But before passing the mic, I want to end with the ultimate question, why CHEP? And I thought instead of having another slide or bringing back one of the ones we shared earlier in our value proposition, to be more impactful to hear directly from one of our customers. [Presentation]

Drew Merrill

executive
#145

So look at the video started before I had a chance to introduce, but if you can't see online, that was Jim O'Rourke, he's from TreeHouse Foods. TreeHouse Foods is a multibillion-dollar publicly-traded company. They are one of the largest private label manufacturers in all of North America and egregiously allowed us to share some of that with you. So to talk about some of the solutions he was addressing. We're now going to bring up Vishal Patel, our Senior Vice President, Strategy and Transformation. Vishal?

Vishal Patell

executive
#146

Thank you, Drew. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm here to share progress on our next 2 priorities, which are innovation and asset efficiency. And hopefully provide more context to the references made to this section in earlier presentations as well as to what Jim was referring to in his video. Starting with innovation. I'd like to share 3 key things. 1, is our portfolio of customer solutions with some examples such as transport collaboration, managed recovery and unit load testing that add differentiated value to our customers; 2, is a case study of a digital customer solution that Matt referenced earlier. And 3, how we're becoming a better data-driven organization through advanced analytics. So we have a diverse portfolio of customer solutions that we collaborate with our customers on. And these have been instrumental in differentiating our value proposition versus other providers. Starting with transport collaboration. As David mentioned earlier, we move over 1 million pallets every day. That is more than 2,000 trucks. That's on the delivery side. When you combine those delivery points, the collection points and our customer transfer data, which is when manufacturers tell us where the product is going to retail. This gives us unprecedented visibility into transport moves across North America. So what this allows us to do is to collaborate with our manufacturers and our retailers on fleet sharing. I'll give you an example. We send empty pallets to a bottle water manufacturer. They put bottle water on that same truck goes to a grocery DC, where the product is unloaded and the same truck is then used to bring empty pallets back to CHEP. This eliminates 3 legs of transportation of empty miles lowers the carbon footprint and provides cost reduction to everyone involved. So to one of the questions earlier, a lot of our solutions are focused on delivering the dual benefit of cost reduction as well as carbon reduction. Another example is managed recovery, and this is a solution we've adopted from some of our other markets, notably in Europe. In this solution, for example, we partner with a leading discount retailer to send pallets directly from their distribution center to various manufacturers across the United States. And this eliminates 2 legs of transportation and also improves sustainability. The retailer gets compensated for inspecting the pellets. The manufacturer gets pallets faster at lower cost and is able to utilize their backhaul that they used to deliver the product in the first place and CHEP benefits from lower transport and operational costs. Moving on to unit load testing. Some of you must have interacted with Brandon and the team and you're aware that in Orlando, we have our Innovation Center. And this is an International Safe Transit Association, or ISTA certified facility. And over here, we've engaged, I think, in the last 3 years over 100 customers to do unit load testing. And this unit load testings involve load configuration testing to either fit more product on a pallet. Or to test for product damage or to fit more pallets on a truck or the unit load stability for racking and transit safety. So there's a variety of tests that we do around here. And I'll give you an example. A manufacturer had the need to use whitewood pallets for a certain lane, and they tested their product on whitewood and found that there was significant product damage due to the gaps between boards. In another case, a leading manufacturer tested their product on CHEP pallets because they wanted to test how this would interface in a racking environment at a club store. So these are the kind of different kinds of tests that we do there. In addition, we have dedicated field application engineers who work with customers before, after and during their automation installs to ensure that our pooled pallets flow seamlessly through their supply chain. And in the past 3 years, we worked with more than 200 manufacturing and retail locations to eliminate waste from their supply chain. As automation increases, these collaborations will continue to help differentiate us with our customers. The results of these collaborations are impressive. Approximately 12 million empty miles eliminated. More than 16,000 tons of CO2 emission reduction and cost savings that add value to our customers every day. Next, I'd like to talk to you about the case study of a digital customer solution that Matt brought up. So Green Garden products is a leading supplier of flower and vegetable seed packets, who distribute via in-store promotions to a variety of retail channels across the U.S. Their problem was that they needed to activate all their promotional stock during the promotional window because if it's not activated on time, it results in lost sales. The key issue was a lack of visibility into display arrivals, and Green Garden was spending a considerable amount on reps that walk the stores to locate and build the displays. To solve the problem, CHEP pallets equipped with autonomous tracking devices were delivered directly to the Green Garden distribution center. The operators there loaded the pallets with packaged displays and performed an association scan linking that specific display to the pallet. This association allowed Green Garden to track exactly which displays were shipped to which stores and CHEP provided information on the proof of delivery when they arrived. And as a result, 90% of promotions were active a month earlier when compared to the previous year, resulting in higher sales. Following 2 successful proof of delivery deployments, Green Garden has now signed a multiyear contract for display shipments to several thousand stores in the U.S. Next, I'd like to highlight how we are becoming a better data-driven organization through advanced analytics. This is more of a reference side for later I do not intend to cover everything on this page because a few things on customer value have already been covered by Drew, and I will be covering a few others on productivity in later slides. However, the key message here is that we're fundamentally becoming a better data-driven organization by: 1, delivering incremental value to our customers and improving their experience. 2, providing a more granular understanding of our cost to serve by customer and by lane in order to convert new business and 3, leveraging data and digital to improve asset efficiency, which I'll cover in the next section. So let me move on to our next pillar, which is asset efficiency. I think this crowd knows it really well. asset efficiency is a key driver of cash of sustainability and of customer value in a pooling environment. In the next few minutes, I will provide details on our asset efficiency journey and structural improvements in fiscal year '21. With a couple of case studies on how digital deployments specifically targeted and continuous diagnostics are helping improve visibility and results and I'll end my presentation with a future outlook on our retail value framework as well as how a fully digitized control model will further unlock greater asset efficiency for the North American business. So as efficiency is an area of the business where we're incredibly proud of the progress we have made in the last 3 to 4 years. And this is not just in North America. Joaquin mentioned earlier, this is a Brambles enterprise-wide effort with joint resources that share best practices and solutions to deliver results across all markets. Let me give you details on some of these initiatives that you see listed here. You heard Helen talk about continuous and targeted diagnostics. These have been game changers in proactively eliminating leakage points in the North American supply chain and I will share with you a couple of case studies on the next slide. But I do want to talk about NPDs or nonparticipating distributors. As many of you know, most large retailers in North America participates on the CHEP pooling program. However, there are several that do not, and we refer to them as NPDs or nonparticipating distributors, allowing shipments to NPDs is a key part of the value proposition for our manufacturing customers as this allows them to ship to all their customers on one single platform. It helps reduce complexity and reduced waste in their operations. And for us, it eliminates the need for dual sourcing as well. That is why we have invested a lot in improving controls at NPDs. We broadened our engagement efforts and increased collection points by launching our own low-volume recovery fleet. Currently, we have about 150 trucks in 70 U.S. markets, collecting pallets at thousands of locations and we're constantly evaluating this mix to optimize our collections. The last one on this page I want to talk about before moving to the case studies is the continued deployment of specialized field resources. In addition to our low volume recovery trucks and drivers, this includes our asset recovery reps who partner with our recyclers to get pallets back as well as about 25 dedicated asset protection managers, many of them with law enforcement backgrounds. And collectively, they action the findings from digital deployments as well as to claim our legal title. The results have been really good. We have prevented 6 billion pallets from being lost, almost 3 million higher collections using our fleet and a 19% reduction in uncompensated losses in North America and we will continue these efforts to deliver on our 30% ambition by the end of fiscal year '25. Moving to the case studies. Through continuous diagnostics, and I'll just remind you, continuous diagnostics is when pallets with autonomous trackers continue to move through the supply chain, we were able to see a pattern of pallet exchange that we would not have otherwise seen. And this was happening from multiple stores at one particular retailer to the same manufacturer to the tune of around 800,000 pallets annually. This was addressed with the retailer first through a collaborative effort. And to cut a long story short, we were able to stop this practice, which is now going to allow our team to pursue this volume as a new business opportunity. In other case, we targeted a few pallets into a supply chain where we had a leakage hypothesis. And we found unauthorized pallet sales by a recycler to the tune of almost 250,000 pallets. You can see from the second picture that without digital insights, it is very difficult to identify such instances as our pallets may be covered by other pallets or other equipment when they're on recycler yards. This is why I said earlier that continuous and targeted diagnostics and digital insights are game changers for asset efficiency and improving illumination of assets as they move through the supply chain. And these are just a few examples that we've shared here today. There's many, many more within the business where we've been able to take action. Now once we get these insights back I do want to stress that it takes a fair bit of collaboration, not only from teams within CHEP, whether it's the drivers or it's the asset protection staff or our commercial teams, our retail teams, but it also takes collaboration with the customer in order to realize the benefits, which is going to lead me to my next slide because I want to talk to you about our retail value framework. And sticking -- if you see the first point, I want to stay with collaboration for a minute. Adding value to our retail customers is not a new priority. We've always strived to do that. However, over the last 2 years, we have redoubled our efforts in collaborating and listening to our retail customers so that we can add differentiated value to their business. And when we do that right, we are seeing better asset efficiency and advocacy for growth. Similar to what Jim said in his video, our retailers have also told us that they really value the approach that we have taken, which involves listening first and then partnering to help solve problems and eliminate waste. Retailers recognize the value proposition of pallet quality, which reduces product damage and handling costs. And they tell us that when pallets come in on poor -- when their product comes in on poor quality white wood pallets. They have to then be either transferred on to a higher-quality pallet or underpinned on one, as Drew showed you in that picture earlier. And this drives cost and inefficiency in their operations. What is also starting to resonate more is the circular and regenerative nature of our business model, which is in turn helping with their own Scope 3 emissions and we're also starting to make a lot of progress in making sure that we always talk about the benefits of sustainability and asset efficiency, which is also starting to resonate more. I'm happy to report that we've engaged with just under half our target volume retailers and expect to have this framework rolled out with the balance over the next couple of years. The benefits to CHEP are evident. But before moving to my last slide, I want to provide three examples of these collaborations. Hopefully, this will help bring it to life for you. A leading food service provider was facing a problem with pallet losses. Our team partnered with the customer to map all their facilities and conduct location-level data analysis, which resulted in a 79% reduction in losses year-over-year. Another example, our team collaborated with a leading grocer to map their supply chain and put initiatives in place and the result was then recognizing and advocating for CHEP as their preferred pooler. And in other case, we partnered with a leading wholesaler to do an end-to-end supply chain review. And one of the outcomes was implementing transport collaboration that I talked about earlier. And in this case, we were able to leverage their private fleet to move pallets and that resulted in the elimination of over 200,000 MT miles in 12 months. So we're incredibly proud of our ongoing efforts in this area, and we're going to do more. Now let's talk about where we are going with asset efficiency. We will continue to drive excellence in asset recovery and protection. There is no doubt about it. And will become even more proactive on loss prevention by leveraging digital insights to deliver incremental customer value and improve our cash generation. Our ambition is clear. We want to have a fully digitized control model that will unlock further efficiencies. Using current and digital data, we're creating digital twins of pallet flows that allow us to be more proactive in the identification of leakage points. We're looking at artificial intelligence to help us with automated route planning and field resource deployment to further increase collections at all locations, not just the NPD ones that I was referring to earlier. And lastly, building on what Drew mentioned, we want fully automated proactive account health management to enhance the customer experience. We believe that when we do this right, it will help take us beyond the targeted 30% uncompensated loss reduction by fiscal year '28 and deliver more value to our customers, to our shareholders and to our employees alike. Thank you very much for your attention. And I'd now like to introduce you to our North America Senior Vice President of Supply Chain, Tyler Vassar.

Tyler Vassar

executive
#147

Good afternoon. I'm Tyler Vassar, I've been leading the North America supply chain team for almost 6 years, actually 6 years next week. And I'm going to talk about the supply chain. I'm going to talk about the last 4 years, and I'm going to talk about our vision for the next 4 years. I'm going to talk about 4 key areas. I'm going to talk about safety, product durability, quality, network advantage and a little more about automation. The last 4 years have been extremely challenging in supply chains in the United States, in Canada and around the world. I actually believe that probably everyone in this room has been affected by maybe one or maybe many supply chain disruptions. And in CHEP North America, we had some big challenges and some big disruptions too. But what we did is we pulled our teams together, we looked at our processes, we looked at our systems, we looked at how we were organized, and we set out to collaborate with our customers and our suppliers to not only recover our supply chain but completely redesign it into a far more resilient supply chain. There are many, many dimensions of improvement. And I'm going to go through about 4 key areas over the next 15 minutes. The first thing we focus on is safety, quality, customer fulfillment and excellence. Safety. Safety is truly the #1 priority at Brambles for every employee and every leader. The foundation of a great safety program and safety performance is based on culture. It's based on culture. That's how it works. So let me tell you what we did with our culture. Four years ago, we embarked on a whole new way of thinking about incidents, accidents and near misses. We instituted a brilliant approach called safety differently. Now in most factories and organizations around the world, employees make mistakes, there are near misses, there are accidents. There are instances. And any safety expert will tell you more than 90% of the time, the defined root cause of those accidents was the action or inaction of the employee, 90% of the time. I was talked to believe that I've known that math for 30 years. But we tried something different. What we did is, instead, we sat down with employees with leadership on every single incident, accident and near miss. And we looked at the protective equipment, we looked at the standard work, we looked at the processes. We looked how work actually got done. And what we found was there were many root causes. That allowed us to prevent that same incident from happening anywhere across the globe in the CHEP network. But we got a bonus. Frequently, we would identify other risks that we wouldn't have identified had we simply said, the employee made a mistake, they shouldn't do that again. It's been transformational. Simultaneously, we invested in engineered controls and machine guarding. We have eliminated the possibility for forklift pedestrian segregation. And you will see that tomorrow for all of you that are going to go on the tour of our facility right here in San Antonio. Enrique talked about the improvement a 6-point improvement in the Brambles incident frequency rate. Just to give a little more context, that means there were 50% less incidents and accidents in fiscal year '24 than there were in fiscal year '21 when we took on this new approach. Next, I'd like to talk about quality and durability. Now when I think about quality, the first thing I think about is the customer. I think about the customers high-quality products that are going to be placed upon our pallet so they can be distributed out through the retail network. It's extremely important. So 4 years ago, we set out on a journey to invest $255 million in product quality and resiliency. I have full confidence that we are positioned to deliver more value, more value to our customers, both manufacturers and retailers and to our shareholders. Let me give you a couple of examples. We have identified, tested and implemented new species of [ lumber ]. Higher strength, higher density to weight ratios. This is something a whitewood provider or any of our competitors cannot offer to our customers. Enrique talked about the double wall block. When I think about the double-wall block, I think about the durability improvement that our customers will receive from that double-wall block. But there's more, that double-wall block will also become less damaged in a cycle through our supply chain than a current wooden block of any wood species. That means the cost of repairs are going to be less. And then finally, I'm fortunate enough to be co-sponsoring our global plan of the future program. And I love talking about robots. Robots provide all sorts of advantages. But an advantage we haven't talked about is better dimensional accuracy when we repair our pallets. Better dimensional accuracy. It wasn't even important 15 years ago. But as our manufacturers and our retailers automate their systems and material handling, this dimensional precision becomes more and more important. Now my favorite thing to talk about is customer fulfillment. The right product, at the right place, at the right time. We talk a lot about seamless customer experience. Well, it's me and my team that are principally responsible for delivering that each and every day and on Saturdays and Sundays too. Our value proposition is based on an incredible network advantage. It's absolutely incredible. We have automated service centers, manual service centers, fulfillment warehouses and specialty locations for many of our customers as well. The total network is over 400 locations. It sounds like a big number, but who cares about that. Think about this. We service more than 30,000 customer locations in the United States. And we are within 100 kilometers or 62 miles of 85% of them. That's over 25,000 customer locations where we're there to service them. And because of our locations, we can service them in less than 3 hours. That is an advantage that no other pooler, no other competitor can match. What's going on. All right. Now I want to talk about the future. I'm going to talk about the future. And I'm going to talk about some of the same categories. There we are. Let's go back to safety. Let's go back to safety. I have so much passion around safety. People are so important to me. But we're beginning to use technology, vision technology, digital technology, machine learning, AI, that we can actually -- we will actually be able to find and identify risks that are currently unidentifiable. We will improve our employees' ergonomics, and this is going to come fast. This is going to come fast. Automation. Enrique mentioned, I think Graham mentioned as well. So 65% of our production goes through automated lines today. And I'm very proud of that. When I arrived here, I can assure you it was far, far less than that. But let's think a little bit about the pallet. The standard U.S. 48-inch by 40-inch pallet contains 26 elements. Today, our automation capabilities can successfully address slightly over half of those elements. We are leading a program that involves smaller, faster robots, smaller robots than what you're going to see tomorrow. And these robots will be able to address all of the elements on the bottom and top decks of our pallets before the end of FY '28. And I can assure you we will get that done. A little more on customer fulfillment, Drew, great job. You talked about CHEP automated, intelligent replenishment. But I think in order to understand how powerful that is, it's probably wise for me to spend a little bit of time and talk about how our fulfillment model actually works. For more than half of our deliveries each year, we use dedicated fleets. So it's the same trailers, the same trucks, the same truck operators who deliver to more than 58% of our customers. Some of these customers get pallets 10 a day, some of these customers get a load of pallets maybe once every 2 weeks. But there's a lot of variation in that. So what happens is our operators drop off the trailer. They don't wait in line for live unloading and delays at warehouses. It's much more efficient than that. We simply drop off a trailer and we pick up an empty trailer and then in turn goes through our supply chain, chances are through a collaboration like Vishal mentioned or to a retail location to pick up more pallets to bring back to our service centers. That whole thing is absolutely dependent on clear communication from the sites of what's actually going on with those trailers to our central intelligence team so that we can dispatch all the trucks properly. Almost 5,000 trucks a day are dispatched by my team and my people, my very talented people. But this technology that Drew told you about, we don't have the capability to understand the precise location of each and every trailer, each and every trailer, whether that trailer is full of pallets or whether that trailer has been emptied. And we can actually see when they begin the process. So we have the capability to know when a trailer is being unloaded at a customer site and we can already be dispatching the next load. Now that's what I call seamless customer experience. I'm going to end with some ideas around operational excellence. Operational excellence, we have really accelerated over the last 2 years and we've delivered some great performance. We've delivered some truly great performance. But let me give you a great example of something we just did in the last 3 months. We pulled the team of our operations and logistics experts together and we looked hard at our network of where it is today and where it needs to be in 4 years, and my brilliant team came up with an initiative where they believed by restructuring several sites, changing a bunch of information, closing a couple of service centers, changing some flows based on where our retail business is and where it's going to go, and they believe they could save somewhere between $10 million and $12 million a year if we could get this initiative executed. The team executed it in less than 90 days. And in the month of September, we're realizing $1 million in cost savings from what we planned for the year. I think our effectiveness, capability and dedication of our team is a testament to our value. I can absolutely assure you it's our people who deliver and I can also assure you that we will deliver improved customer service, better efficiencies and even better quality in the next 4 years. It's a very, very exciting time in the supply chain, and I have loved having the ability to share these thoughts with you today. And what I'm going to love even more is seeing you at our service center tomorrow morning, where I'm actually going to show you that robot not a robot, that robot and you're going to see how it adds value for our customers and our investors. Thank you. I'm going to turn it over to David.

David Cuenca

executive
#148

And I think the team did a great job by putting a little bit of color to the way that we are going to deliver our commitments. I think it's time now to recap and to bring four main ideas they want you to retain after this session. So the first one is that safety and customer is part of our DNA. And this is not something that we are paying tactically. It is embedded in our culture. The second, you have see it, there is a big white space in front of us, and we are ready to convert because we have the right strategy, the right capabilities, and the right sales plan. Third, we want to be more competitive and we have the right commercial supply chain excellence, asset efficiency and digital initiatives to deliver value and to reduce our costs. And then last but not least and I think that's an important message. We are going to keep playing an important role in supporting the company in the digitally transformation and we're going to be a key player in delivering the Brambles investor value proposition. With that, let me share with you that I'm really excited to lead this business in these amazing times. And I want also to use this opportunity to thank to all the North American employees for the great efforts and the great results over the last year. This is bringing us to the last of the -- or to the last of this session and I'm going to ask the team to join me in the stage, and I'm going to be more than happy to answer any questions that you might have. Feel the way that we are going to do it, I can centralize the questions and I will distribute to the team.

Cameron McDonald

analyst
#149

It's Cameron McDonald from E&P. Question, Drew, for you, just around the growth prioritization framework for those new categories that you're targeting. Can you break it down for us with those -- the near-term opportunities how many of those are with existing customers that do have a product expansion capability as opposed to winning new customers?

Drew Merrill

executive
#150

Yes. I won't give an exact amount, but it's fairly balanced and there is a large amount of new customers that do sit in more of a smaller space. So it's a mix of large lane expansion for our existing customers and then brand-new customers more in that small to midsize range.

Cameron McDonald

analyst
#151

Just because I would have thought that the larger customers with lane expansion are easier. That's why I'm asking the question because pick FMCG retailer, they probably do a lot of those products already. So the alternative question is, why aren't they using you now?

Drew Merrill

executive
#152

Yes. So automation may be emerging, so that could be a catalyst to drive that growth. There has been some of the NPD channels historically that maybe would make sense for them to move that to whitewood. So as our collection engine improves, that could be a future conversion but those conversations are always ongoing.

Cameron McDonald

analyst
#153

And what's the incentive that you're providing for the sales team to actually execute on that?

Drew Merrill

executive
#154

So they're incentivized on both volume and profit. It is a mix for those existing customers.

Samuel Seow

analyst
#155

It's Sam Seow from Citi. Just on the bubble chart, particularly interested in one of the axis where you had right to win. And maybe if you could go into why you had more right to win in some of those categories versus others like I think fresh produce, you had more right to win than fresh food. So just to understand that. And in terms of the white space, is there any opportunities that are less, I guess, price dependent as well that you call it.

Unknown Executive

executive
#156

Drew, do you want to...

Drew Merrill

executive
#157

Yes. So I mean there are a few things at play there. The type of product could dictate why it's more attractive. So if it is a faster cycle time or if it's heavier weighted, so there's more benefit from a strong pool pallet where you can give more on it. Those are some of the attributes that could impact that. The amount of NPDs versus non-NPDs could be one of the challenges. What channels those categories service. I mentioned that we didn't include subcategories. We didn't include channels. That has an impact also in the addressability. We just didn't break that out for this presentation. And what was your second part of your question?

Samuel Seow

analyst
#158

Just price dependent.

Drew Merrill

executive
#159

Price dependent. I mean, look, when we price customers, it's really based on three things. You have the input costs, you have the customer behavior and then you have the potential value creation that we're offering them. And so those things come into play. If you have a general merchandise item that is sitting for 180 days versus a dairy item that's moving very quickly within a certain retail framework. That's what's determining our price flexibility. On top of that, typically larger customers where we can gain scale, a lot of the value solutions that Vishal talked about, that would also come into play as well as impacting the total cost of ownership will go into some of the pricing conversations we have. That answer your question?

Niraj-Samip Shah

analyst
#160

It's Niraj from Goldman Sachs. You guys provided us with the DIFOT metrics, customer satisfaction and NPS. It looks like they're year-on-year '24 versus '23. I imagine it's been a bit of a roller coaster ride on a few of those metrics over the last sort of 4 or 5 years. So just curious on how -- what the delta looks like versus a pre-pandemic baseline.

Unknown Executive

executive
#161

Actually, DIFOT is a new metric that they incorporated into the business recently last year. So we cannot compare with the previous. So we don't have a metric to compare.

Niraj-Samip Shah

analyst
#162

What about NPS?

Unknown Executive

executive
#163

For NPS, you mean. So this improvement that we highlighted, it's over the last 4 years.

Andre Fromyhr

analyst
#164

Andre Fromyhr from UBS. Just over here. Can you talk a bit about the sort of profitability of new customers that you gained in the white space. For example, if you would grow that part of your book faster than, say, like-for-like volumes. Is it more expensive to serve a new customer potentially the smaller end of the scale? Or what are the attributes about that customer that would drive the margin?

Unknown Executive

executive
#165

Do you want to have that or let me?

Unknown Executive

executive
#166

Sure. Our profit -- we're going after new volume, but at the right profitability levels. So we will take into account the granularity of the cost to serve we have now. So for instance, we will look at a market analysis of inventory positioning, amongst other things, in order to price the customer. So -- but we always strive to maintain at least current profitability levels for new volume.

Matthew Ryan

analyst
#167

It's Matt Ryan over here from Barrenjoey. It can't be a Brambles Investor Day without a bubble chart. So I just want to ask about the what appear to be the really near-term larger opportunities in fresh produce and Fresh Foods. You are in those markets already. So just interested in, is that something that's sort of already rolling out and you're sort of seeing a much larger opportunity there? And can you just comment on the major competitor in that space? Is it RPCs that you're sort of trying to take share from? Or is it other sort of pallet providers?

Unknown Executive

executive
#168

Yes. So everything that we are trying to convert is primarily in a pallet today, right? So not so much RPCs. Yes, a lot of that is within our current wheelhouse. You heard Dave talk about that during the pandemic, we did stall sales activities and completely focused on customer retention and just making sure we get everybody through the pandemic. But that is within our wheelhouse and a lot of that is BAU, business as usual today in the near term. There is some segmentation of prioritization that's going on. It's a little more grand there before. Not to say that we used to be a bit of spray and pray, but a lot more targeted in our sales efforts. That was the impetus behind refreshing the market analysis was so that knowing that we're going to have a more solution-centric lens. We have a tough competitive environment. We have to be segmented and prioritized to focus our efforts where we have the highest level of success opportunity.

Matthew Ryan

analyst
#169

Got it. And just a follow-on, the 36-point improvement to our NPS score. Can you give us some of the detail around what people were, I guess, supporting you with in that NPS score. And also just talk a little bit about how much of it was driven by customers coming off allocation in the '24 year.

Unknown Executive

executive
#170

Look, that's certainly played into it. But I think with some of the things Anthony was talking about earlier with retailer chargebacks to move towards automation, they're looking for a step change in what we call the brilliant basics. And in a way, we've -- I know we've talked about a lot of the flashy things we're doing in addition to that. But I think one of the core things is delivering in full on time providing the right pallet to the right place at the right time on a consistent basis. And certainly, post-pandemic, getting that right and getting that consistently was really important to get back into our normal step.

Anthony Moulder

analyst
#171

Anthony Moulder from Jefferies. I wanted to talk also on that white pallet space opportunity. Since 2019, you haven't really delivered a lot into that white pallet space, obviously, for the reasons you outlined. But since that time, we've also seen a considerable consolidation of the white pallet space, just thinking how you see that opportunity versus what you would have in 2019 now that, that market is, I think, significantly changed with those 3 key white pallet plays.

Unknown Executive

executive
#172

Yes, there has been consolidation. Some of the supply chain dynamics are talked about the fact that you have to compete for supply, no matter if you're large or big, that's just how that business model works. What we see is the big shift is the trend in customer automation, sustainability coming back to the forefront and now our asset efficiency capability where sometimes Whitewood was used for a lot of those NPDs as we're able to expand even further into that, we see our value proposition being very strong. And we see some headwind issues with where the market is going from a Whitewood grade A standpoint.

Tyler Vassar

executive
#173

Tailwind.

Unknown Executive

executive
#174

Tailwind. My fact check over there. Thank you, Tyler.

Anthony Moulder

analyst
#175

And secondly, if I could, dual sourcing was mentioned as far as you winning share from PECO another competitor, I expect it was probably PECO with some of their customers. What are you picking up that those customers are talking to you as why would they want to be or move volume to chair as opposed to staying with PECO at this point?

Unknown Executive

executive
#176

Are you saying, are we dual sourcing PECO's customers? I'm trying to understand...

Anthony Moulder

analyst
#177

I think that was a comment of the FY '24 result that you were going to win share back the other way, having a loss of share to dual sourcing through FY '24, that there was the opportunity to take some back on the other one.

Unknown Executive

executive
#178

So let me just build on this because what we're trying to do is to focus on white space, obviously, if it's a customer that is working with a different competitor calls us and as for help, we are going to be speaking about value, not price, but we are going to be seeking actively to win back customers from our competitors. We want to focus on white -- do you want to build on that, Drew?

Drew Merrill

executive
#179

Yes. I mean, with 59% of the white space in Whitewood, 90% our efforts are there. Now if a customer comes to us or prospects or that happens to be working with another pooler and they have a problem we can solve, but we can do it through value, not price. We are engaging, we're having those conversations. But in the balance, we have not -- we haven't had any material market share change or shift with our competitor in that space.

Anthony Moulder

analyst
#180

Right. And lastly, if I could, on the 6 million fewer losses, can you just profile that over whether or a lot of those losses were more in FY '24 as opposed to FY '22? Or I mean, 6 million, 3 years, is it improved towards where we are now as opposed to maybe having more of that benefit through FY '22.

Unknown Executive

executive
#181

I don't have that off top of my head. [indiscernible]. Can you just give me that question again?

Anthony Moulder

analyst
#182

So it was [indiscernible] and that's over 3 years [indiscernible] understand whether or not most of that saving was forward loaded into '22? Or you're actually accelerating the losses savings through FY '24 and that continues?

Unknown Executive

executive
#183

Yes. So maybe if I answer a slightly different way, not specifically on the U.S. or North America. But we talked earlier today about the 16 million pallets that we recovered in FY '24, and that was compared to 10 million the year before. So that gives you a 6 million improvement, and a lot of that was driven by our U.S. business. And that's why you had Vishal, just to clarify what he talked about is not only are they going to deliver on the 30% reduction in FY '25 on uncompensated losses, but they've got the same target as we talked about earlier, on improving that as we go ahead. So asset efficiency across the group is improving.

Andre Fromyhr

analyst
#184

Andre from UBS again over here. There's been a bit of talk today about Whitewood prices being low. I wonder if you have a view on what a normal Whitewood price is in a stable sort of supply-demand environment? And perhaps another way to think about that would be has the Whitewood industry experience the same level of costs to serve inflation as what the pooling industry has?

Unknown Executive

executive
#185

Yes. My view and happy for you guys to add on is that Whitewood is below and there are inflationary costs that it should be coming up at some point. I will say -- I know we've said I would not say we're dependent upon that. It would be nice, and that would certainly help our conversations with our prospects, but we're not reliant on it. What we have seen is that price stabilized for 3 months now and inventory relatively flushing that was excess prior is now moving through. So with that, there could be some increase and we have seen some regional already upticks in those moves. But I do think it will end up higher than where it is today. Any other adds?

Unknown Executive

executive
#186

You answered it.

Owen Birrell

analyst
#187

It's Owen Birrell from RBC. I just wanted to delve again into that white space addressability and I guess, some of the new cuts that you've got here in terms of the near to medium term, long-term opportunities. With medium term, you've mentioned moderate intervention to, I guess, access that 50% of that pie. Can you give us a sense of what you mean by moderate intervention? And then second question, just looking at the long-term opportunity. Most of those segments were really just not accessible at all because they are types of products they've got to damage pallets and so forth. And you've mentioned to your product development. What do you mean in terms of product development? Are you talking about making the entire pool stronger or nonpermeable -- so what are you talking about there in terms of product development?

Unknown Executive

executive
#188

Yes. The first one, I think the best way to answer, maybe Debbie, with the medium with packaging as an example because that fits right into your question and maybe you can...

Unknown Executive

executive
#189

Yes. I mean one of the things that we discovered is that packaging was not in target in North America and we see that in Europe, we deployed during the segment. So we incorporate it. But that is not happening overnight. So you need to build the right relationship with the industry, you need to have a right plan. So this is a great example of a big bubble that you can deliver, but you need to build certain capabilities. On the second, if you want to...

Owen Birrell

analyst
#190

Sorry sir, just customer relationship capabilities. You actually need to knock on the door.

Unknown Executive

executive
#191

Not just not just. You need to understand how you need to address your business model to make it attractive for all the players in the industry, to advocate for the conversion of the first mile, for example.

Unknown Executive

executive
#192

So that's model intervention and a customer behavior intervention. And it's something like durable goods, so your washer dryer, for example, that's going to require a different sized pallet. So I mean, some of those longer-term space, I don't know you had one in particular. They all would require some element of either digital capability, but certainly product platform is not always going to be a [ 4840 ]. Dairy is another example. They have dairy creates that are on a total standard-sized platform that would require product and innovation.

Andre Fromyhr

analyst
#193

Just a quick question on the retail value framework. Is it to think about that, that could potentially lower loss and as a consequence, lower compensation, lower IPEP, is that the best way to think about that retail value framework.

Unknown Executive

executive
#194

Yes. Our ultimate objective -- our first objective is to have lost prevention, right? Because that has benefits for the retailer for CHEP for the environment, for everything. So that is the focus.

Andre Fromyhr

analyst
#195

Which is a better way of delivering that lower uncompensated loss, I guess the correct?

Unknown Executive

executive
#196

Correct, than seeking compensation, which is works against sort of the customer experience part of things.

Raluca Chiriacescu

executive
#197

Well, I think I might jump in there and give everybody an afternoon tea break. And hopefully, we're going to be back here at 4:00 p.m. for closing remarks and Q&A. Thank you to the North America team. [Break]

Graham Chipchase

executive
#198

So I think what we're going to do now is just to give some time if there are any other questions that we haven't answered earlier. And I know there were a few hands still up when we got finished the digital session. So then I'll do some closing remarks after we've gone through any other questions. So has anybody got any more questions they would like to ask. Cam?

Cameron McDonald

analyst
#199

Graham, when you got the floor. I mean, there's been a big focus on the U.S. There's been [ next to ] no comment about the biggest market you've got in Europe and EMEA. So how do we think about translating some of this growth focus into our thinking around EMEA and Europe?

Graham Chipchase

executive
#200

So I think we made a very conscious decision that trying to boil the ocean today. It was not necessarily going to be that interesting for everybody. So that's why we haven't done a sort of "here's a trip around the world." I think what we said at the full year results in terms of outlook for '25, if you recall, was that margins were going to go up everywhere apart from the U.S. in the short term because of the investments we're making. So -- and that is driven by a lot of the same stuff. So in terms of operational excellence and productivity, that's what's going to help with margin improvement, obviously, a little bit on asset efficiency as well. So the story is pretty similar. I just think that the majority of the improvements going forward are going to come from this area here. So that's why we wanted to focus on it, and we're here. Anthony?

Anthony Moulder

analyst
#201

Asset efficiency is obviously key, I think, for your business and how you improve the value proposition for customers, but also shareholders. Is there any other way that you can think of show how you're delivering that asset efficiency to the market? Is it turns -- I suspect you'll not give us terms, but...

Graham Chipchase

executive
#202

Or cycle [indiscernible] times, I mean, the...

Anthony Moulder

analyst
#203

Or anything, maybe in a similar way of that uncompensated loss baseline, is there a way that you can show that asset efficiency year-on-year?

Graham Chipchase

executive
#204

Joaquin, I think that's one for you. Thanks, Guy.

Joaquin Gil

executive
#205

Look, [ I'm giving ] just suggestions, I think, Anthony, but traditionally how we've done it, we felt that uncompensated loss chart is very clear about what's happening in terms of the capital investment in the pool. And then pulling CapEx to sales has been the traditional measure. I think as Graham said, a few people have asked about cycle time, but we see that as commercially sensitive. So at this stage, that's not something we're going to put out. But if you've got any other thoughts or anyone in the room, we're always happy to think about it. I think the problem is here, it's very hard to have 15 metrics to be putting out. And is it of help to anybody. But if you got any suggestions, maybe happy take them.

Matthew Ryan

analyst
#206

I just saw a couple of times during your presentation that you've beefed up commercial capabilities and sales teams and things like that. So presumably, that's to go after new business wins. Can you just talk about, I guess, what and before the whitewood price goes up. And if it doesn't, can you get new business wins?

Graham Chipchase

executive
#207

Yes. So when it comes to beefing up with commercial teams, I think it's about them better trained to use, for example, Salesforce, which we've implemented. But I wouldn't say we're getting the maximum value out of sales force yet. So there's some work around training existing sales force. There is that move from farmers to hunters, which we need now in the U.S. and not for any thought of anybody who's been in the sales team, they've become farmers over the last few years, and we need to help them become hunters. And that's a combination of improving their skill sets or and/or bringing new people into the organization. Absolutely. I think Drew said this, we are not dependent on the whitewood price going up to still be able to get net new business wins. I think it just will be easier with that going on as well. So I think that's -- and that's why partly we're saying FY '25, we think the net new business wins will be back-end weighted to the second half because we do think the whitewood price would have gone up more by the time we get to the end of the year.

Samuel Seow

analyst
#208

Just a quick question on serialization. Interested in Chile, there's 2.6 million pallets. And I think you called out $60 million in CapEx to serialize that pool. Just wondering is that ratio kind of representative of what this utilization costs might be for the bigger markets?

Graham Chipchase

executive
#209

So I'm not going to answer that fully, but I am going to say that -- we said that we had a higher percentage of our ultras in the Chile pool for various reasons. We wouldn't. That was the 2% that Helen was asked about. We wouldn't expect that level of up of expensive trackers in a pool that we were going to serialize elsewhere around the world, so you shouldn't take that as a extrapolatable fact. And that's why -- and that's also -- again, this wide range and the cost of the technology, the way we might roll it out is why we're not giving any numbers because it will vary as we go, as we go forward.

Joaquin Gil

executive
#210

Can I maybe just clarify that $60 million is the FY '25 serialization number, and that includes the operational sort of testing in the U.S. and the U.K. So if you look at FY '24, the number was $10 million. Just so most of that $60 million in non-pooling CapEx is actually equipment for service centers in the U.S. and the U.K.

Owen Birrell

analyst
#211

Just a follow-up to that question. So the $60 million gets you the equipment in the service centers in the U.S. and the U.K., is that -- that's correct?

Joaquin Gil

executive
#212

No. It doesn't get you all the equipment you would need. We're just operational testing in a range of sites. But again, I think as Graham was talking about. And hopefully, you heard through my presentation, there's such a wide range of costs that we're not comfortable yet saying what would the cost be? And what would the benefits be? We need a bit more time. So I wouldn't extrapolate any of the numbers.

Owen Birrell

analyst
#213

I think that's the big problem though, like as everybody wants to know what's the cost of serializing the U.S. pool and we can't have an estimate.

Joaquin Gil

executive
#214

Yes. So I mean, unfortunately, that's the reality, right? Like I wish I could give you a number. The only reason I wanted to step in there is I didn't want you to think Chile cost of $60 million and then extrapolate that, that would be a little scary as a number. But I think maybe if I can use this opportunity just to clarify something that maybe I wasn't as clear on as they should be. And I have learned one thing is that we're going to make the font size of the plus symbols a lot bigger in our presentations going forward. Because I think one of the things that I've realized is everybody is taking, let's say, free cash flow before dividends is $750 million, but there is a plus, it's just very small. So next time we'll make it bigger. Because I guess we've given a range of like non-pooling CapEx to sale -- of pulling CapEx to sales. We've said 15% to 17%, right? So there's a range there. So hence, at one end of the range, you you would deliver $750 million and at a different end of that range, you deliver more than $750 million. So that's one. And then I think maybe the message that I didn't land as clearly as I would have liked is that we're going to deliver the investor value proposition or our commitment is to deliver that investor value proposition, sort of even if we do serialization plus investment. So what I mean by that is we're still going to deliver high single digit UOP growth, and we'll still deliver free cash flow before dividends of that $750 million plus.

Graham Chipchase

executive
#215

Good. Okay. Great. Well, first of all, and to sort of thank a few people. thank all of you for coming. It's been quite a long day in sitting down and listening to lots of speeches and presentations. So thank you for your patience and for your questions as well. I would also like to thank Raluca and to the team for making this happen because I think it's been a great venue and really well organized. So thank you, Raluca very much. And I'd also like to all the presenters. Some of them -- this is not their day job. So as you can imagine, there been a lot of work gone into getting ready for this. And I'll come on to talk about culture in a minute, but inside Brambles, everyone is very competitive. So I guarantee you tonight, there will be a lot of debate about how is it that JJ was the only [indiscernible] were the only ones who got a round of applause at the end of the presentation. So just a few sort of key points to wrap up. First one is I hope it's really clear that the transformation we've been on has made the company much more resilient and much more agile, both commercially and operationally. And that, for me, is a really key thing that's different about Brambles today than even 10 years ago. The other thing is about culture. Tyler, I think embody the culture we have here, which is very passionate, really focused on people. But if I talk about it a bit more broadly, we are very customer-centric now. I don't think that was always the case, but I think we are now, we've always been very collaborative. And I hope, again, that's come out in a number of comments from the presenters about how they're collaborating within the business across the globe around Brambles. We're very results driven. And we're very sort of aspirational. So one of the things I think that's been great over the last 3 or 4 years is when we started off with shaping our future, everyone was a bit nervous about some of the targets we had. And you can see through what we said at last Investor Day, we have gone through those targets, and we have beaten them. And I think that's a really great thing that we're trying to encourage people to think about what if everything does go right. What could we really be? Now that doesn't necessarily mean we're going to tell you guys that because that's -- you wouldn't expect us to do that or you might, but you're not going to -- it's not going to happen. But I think that culture of was trying to exceed and always trying to go after targets and go beyond them is really something that's in the business now, which I think is fantastic. Very transparent. So yes, we don't give the cycle times and other things you'd like. But by and large, I think the scorecard we put out has been really good because it covers the whole breadth of the business, and we're very clear about it. And when things -- for example, the fact that maybe we've got the metric wrong about end-to-end automation. We didn't change the goalpost we said look, we haven't got the number, but here's why you shouldn't worry about it. And I think finally, within the culture, what I love is there's massive engagement around sustainability and safety. And you hear that from everybody, and that is a very powerful thing when you're in the business, and it's very powerful when you're trying to recruit people into the business as well. When it comes to the transformation, I think we're now moving away from those early days of shaping our future when we're looking at the twin track of trying to optimize our business and being a bit of sort of experimentation around the transformational ideas. We're now talking about delivery. So we're delivering for our customers, and it's driven by digital, and we are totally committed to delivering the investor value prop. And I'll repeat it again, that means $750 million free cash flow regardless of the investments we're making on things like digital. So that is what we are committing to deliver year in, year out. One other thing. Raluca has told me to say this, she doesn't have to go up on the stage again. If you want to come for the dinner tonight, then you need to be at the front of the hotel by 6:15. So with that, thank you very much for your time and look forward to seeing you later and in the bar later for those of you who are the bar men and women. Thank you.

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