BuildDirect.com Technologies Inc. (BILD) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 28, 2025
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Prit Singh
attendeeHi, everyone. Welcome to BuildDirect's Q2 2025 Financial Results Conference Call. For those who are unfamiliar, BuildDirect trades on the TSXV under the ticker BILD, that's B-I-L-D and on the OTCQB under the ticker BDCTF. My name is Prit Singh, and I will be the moderator for today's call. Before we begin, I would like to note that some of the comments today will contain forward-looking information and statements under applicable securities laws that reflect management's current views with respect to future events. Any such information and statements are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking information and statements. Please refer to the various materials the company has filed with Canadian securities regulators for a broader description of operational and risk factors that could affect the company's performance. In addition, please note that all dollar amounts mentioned in this presentation are in U.S. dollars unless otherwise stated. On today's call, we will be covering BuildDirect's Q2 2025 financial and operational highlights as well as its growth outlook for the remainder of 2025. Following comments from BuildDirect's management, the call will be open for questions. [Operator Instructions]. If you are calling in to listen to the webinar today, please email us your questions directly to [email protected]. Again, that's [email protected]. Our presenters today will be the CEO of BuildDirect, Shawn Wilson; CFO, Kerry Biggs; and COIO, Jay Allen. I will now turn the conference call over to Shawn.
Shawn Wilson
executiveThanks, Prit. And for those joining for the first time, welcome. Let me start with the industry picture. The North America retail flooring market is about $90 billion in size and growing at a steady rate. One of the big shifts is how pro customers are buying. They're looking for reliable supply, stronger service and integrated solutions, not just product. That's where BuildDirect is positioned differently with direct procurement, pro centers and e-commerce all working together. Now the broad industry has faced some pressure. Some estimates have industry-wide sales down roughly 2% to 5% with higher interest rates and tighter consumer spending weighing on demand, tariffs add another layer of pressure in markets like Michigan where the economy is heavily tied on manufacturing. We saw those tariffs impact the local macro environment. However, our business held up very well despite the headwinds and I've never been more excited about what we're building. Companies are the strongest model, are positioned to win, and we think that's BuildDirect. In Q2, we expanded our Pro network with a new build in Santa Fe Springs, California, and a bolt-on acquisition in Orlando, Florida. These strengthen our coverage in 2 important regions and building the model we've proven elsewhere. The strategy is straightforward, bring inventory close to the customer, provide hands-on Pro support and tie directly to our e-commerce engine. That's what makes each pro center more than a store. It becomes a growth hub. Now let's shift to e-commerce. Our e-commerce business has been fully overhauled. We've streamlined the assortment, shifted fulfillment into our Pro centers and move sample distribution to Michigan from Richmond BC to cut tariffs and improve delivery speed. The platform is now leaner, faster and built to scale. With that, I'll hand it over to Jay.
John Allen
executiveThanks, Shawn. Our view is that the U.S. digital channel represents a massive opportunity for our organic growth. What we see in customer behavior and competitor activity suggests a meaningful headroom for growth. With a $15 million current run rate, we believe our e-commerce business has the cost position and the structure to scale well beyond that, using our direct import model and Pro Center integration to deliver more value than distributor dependent competitors. We are intently focused on this channel. I'll now turn it over to Kerry for the detailed financial review.
Kerry Biggs
executiveYes. Great. Thanks, Jay. I'm very pleased with the progress we've achieved in Q2 of 2025. So looking at our performance for the quarter ended June 30, 2025. The key highlights are summarized here on Slide 8. Adjusted EBITDA was approximately removing the nonoperating tax credit compared to $578,000 last year, reflecting continued gross margin strength and disciplined cost management. Revenue was approximately $16.9 million, up 4.2% compared to $16.2 million the prior quarter, Q2 of 2024 last year. Gross profit was $6.7 million with a 39.9% margin compared to $6.2 million and a 38.2% margin last year, an increase of $500,000 in gross profit. Operating expenses were $6.9 million, up $500,000 year-over-year, primarily due to the opening of our new Orlando Pro Center. Excluding this new Pro Center, expenses were essentially flat with the same period last year. And again, EBITDA was approximately $1.47 million. This is including the cash tax rebate compared to $573,000 last year. And again, this increase is attributed to that $1.2 million employee retention tax credit as well as the gross margin strength that we noted earlier. Net income overall was $138,000 compared to a loss of $517,000 in Q2 of '24. And working capital was very strong at June 30, 2025, up $700,000 from the prior year. So just moving to the next slide. As I noted, our consolidated revenue in Q2 of 2025 was $16.9 million, up $700,000 or 4.2% versus Q2 of 2024. If we just look at this by segment, e-commerce revenue for Q2 '25 was $3.66 million compared to $3.26 million the same period last year. So an increase of 12.2% for our e-commerce segment. Gross profit was $1.82 million with a margin of 50% and slightly lower than the 52.4% margin last year due to sales mix driven by slightly less noncore inventory sales. On the Pro Center side, the bricks and mortar revenue was $13.2 million for Q2 of 2025, up from $12.9 million in Q2 of 2024, so an increase of 2.2% year-over-year. Gross profit in this segment grew to $4.9 million with a margin expanding to 37.1% compared to 34.6% last year, supported by incremental sales from our new Orlando Pro Center and favorable inventory mix that we sold. So together, as I noted, that resulted in a consolidated gross profit of $6.7 million, up 8.7% year-over-year and a margin improvement of 170 basis points to 39.9%. On the OpEx side, operating expenses were $6.9 million for Q2 of 2025 and up from $6.4 million in Q2 of '24, again, largely driven by the new expenses from our Orlando Pro Center. Excluding these expenses, operating expenses were generally flat year-over-year. So a good sign. On the fulfillment side, fulfillment costs decreased 10.2%, and to $905,000 in Q2 of '25, thanks to lower in-house fulfillment costs. Selling and marketing expenses rose modestly by 5.9% to $1.5 million. Admin costs increased to $3.8 million in Q2 of 2 million from $3.3 million in the same period prior year, and that's where we saw the incremental expenses of our new Orlando operation, excluding those new expenses from Orlando, overall costs were fairly flat year-over-year. Depreciation and amortization was $741,000, up slightly from last year -- last year's $700,000. So overall, our operating expense ratio in Q2 '25 saw a slight increase year-over-year, again showing our strong commitment to cost management. Just moving down on the other income side. I'll go through a couple of the key items here. Interest expense rose to $407,000 versus $322,000 in the prior year. Again, majority of that is noncash related to the insider notes and the larger accrued balances. We recorded a noncash warrant fair value loss of $116,000 and compared to a gain of $24,000 in the same period prior year. Again, included in here, we received a $1.2 million cash from the U.S. IRS under a prior employee retention tax credit program and restructuring costs were $37,000 in e-commerce related to severance and head count reduction. Finally, we had a noncash foreign exchange loss of $126,000 compared to a small gain in the prior year of 42,000. So overall, adjusted EBITDA was around $600,000, again slightly above last year's $578,000. So moving on to Slide 10 on the balance sheet. Very pleased with the state of our balance sheet and our working capital position. At June 30, 2025, current assets totaled $19.5 million. Overall current liabilities were $15.9 million, so resulting in a current ratio of 1.2x and working capital of approximately $3.6 million at June 2025 quarter end compared to $2.7 million at December 31, '24 and then $2.9 million at Q2 '24, the same period prior year. Overall, our cash balance was $4.1 million at June 30, up $1.7 million from both the prior quarter and the year-end '24, so we're in a great place as we speak. Moving on to Slide 11, I'll quickly walk you through the cash flow summary. So on the operating activity side, after changes in noncash working capital, we had cash provided of $529,000 for Q2 of 2025 compared to $89,000 the prior year, same quarter, Q2 '24, an improvement of over $440,000, reflecting stronger operating income partially offset by larger working capital changes with our inventory build that occurred in Q2. Investing activities used $33,000 compared to cash provided of $53,000 last year, reflecting modest equipment purchases offset by a small asset sale in Q2 of '25. Finally, financing activities provided $84,000 of cash compared to a small outflow of the prior year of $36,000 last year. Overall, this included net advances on our revolving credit facility to fund working capital insider borrowing, offset by a loan receivable, scheduled lease payments, prom note payments as well as interest payments on our line of credit. Overall, we ended Q2 with a stronger cash position, improved operating cash flow. With that, I will turn the call back over to Shawn.
Shawn Wilson
executiveOkay. Great. Thanks, Kerry. On August 1, we closed a nonbrokered private placement of approximately CAD 7 million. This financing involved the issuance of just over 6 million common shares at a price of $1.15 per share. The financing was led by Sun Mountain Partners and IFCM MicroCap. In addition, our 3 largest shareholders and several insiders, including myself, also participated in the financing. This capital further strengthens our balance sheet and positions us to execute on our growth strategy. On that, Jay will update us on our most recent acquisition.
John Allen
executiveEarlier this year, we acquired a $6 million revenue business in Orlando with a strong niche in institutional flooring. Since then, we've moved the operation into a better facility at minimal cost, migrated all of their systems on to our ERP and consolidated our Georgia 3PL e-commerce fulfillment into that location. We've also launched a retailer program in the Orlando market. And the next step is rolling out our Pro Elite contractor program, which will further leverage our shared inventory.
Shawn Wilson
executiveIt's a great example of what we mean by a bolt-on acquisition, one that not only expands our footprint in a high-growth region, but also in the institutional segment and also enhances efficiency across multiple channels.
John Allen
executiveSo looking ahead, our growth plan runs on 3 tracks. Organic growth will come from scaling e-commerce. We're targeting 2 to 3x its current run rate, expanding the commercial spec and quote pipeline and launching a pro marketing funnel focused on value-added services. While the exact size of online flooring isn't fully reported, we view it as a significant growing channel where we have a strong advantage.
Shawn Wilson
executiveYes. Thanks, Jay. Track 2 is our bolt-on acquisition program. We buy smaller pro-focused locations and convert them into build direct pro centers. And then track 3 is larger division expansions. These are selective opportunities to add capabilities like new categories, contractor networks and create clear synergies. These 3 tracks give us flexibility, different paths to grow while keeping capital efficiency at the forefront. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Prit to begin the Q&A session.
Prit Singh
attendeeThanks, Shawn. Thanks, Kerry. Thanks, Jay. Thank you, everyone. We will now begin the Q&A session. [Operator Instructions]. If you listening in the call today, please email us your questions directly to [email protected]. Again that is [email protected]. First question. Your gross margins expanded to nearly 40% this quarter. Can you discuss the sustainability of this margin profile and whether you see additional levers to further expand margins going forward?
Shawn Wilson
executiveYes, it's a great question. So we're in a pretty unique position. We have our direct import, and that really complements what we also buy from like stateside distribution to balance out the working capital requirement for our inventory. So like when things like the tariffs happen, the noise and all the -- all the different changes, having both lines of site was really important. You can leverage existing inventory, it's already here as well as have clarity on like the actual practical implication of what those tariffs are, whereas others who don't have those 2 lines are really held captive, right? So for example, we source from multiple countries and the ability to have that flexibility, I mean, who would have known, right, like as kind of a surprise for a lot of companies. But that really helped us protect it. And then with that, so for us, we track our penetration of what we sell to our network from direct import versus other distribution. It's a key metric that we watch and keep working towards increasing. So I would say on the margin front, there definitely is room for further expansion. And then for us, ensuring that we have multiple supply chains and really make sure we're folks in the Pro segment, which is a very profitable segment. Relatively speaking, is how we continue to win there on the gross margin side and how we continue to intend on increasing it.
Prit Singh
attendeeOkay. Fantastic. With Pro Center is now accounting for approximately 80% of your overall revenue, how do you continue to balance e-commerce investment with accelerating pro center expansion?
Shawn Wilson
executiveJay, you can take that one.
John Allen
executiveYes, I'll jump in here. Well, I think on the e-commerce side, we've already made the big investments in systems and processes and kind of the hard decisions to give us a good platform to grow from. And I think we feel great about the growth there further expansion just requires us to invest in some marketing spend and inventory, which also benefit the pro center side. So I think overall, I would say we're in a good place to grow both e-commerce and the Pro Centers without having to make -- without having to starve one channel or another to do it.
Prit Singh
attendeePerfect. Can you provide some color on the current M&A pipeline?
Shawn Wilson
executiveYes. So on the pipeline, I would say going back to our 3 tracks. So Jay touched on the biggest one for our organic side. The -- especially on track 2, the industry is very dense on targets. And so a lot of that is also just like with the tariff and noise, the up and down, so on and so forth. You have a lot of smaller distributors or Pro-focused locations or having to kind of -- working through like what that means. Often it's because their supply chain is tied to like a distributor who might have been adversely impacted or maybe taking advantage of the noise on pricing. And so we're finding a pretty significant amount of inbound on that track. I won't get into too much detail on the call. But like for us, even we have a pretty good marketing program that's running to help kind of -- help bring those to light. On track for the larger acquisitions, right? So there's a lot of companies who are in the flooring business but have adjacent categories. For example, countertops, cabinets, so on and so forth are relatively kind of relatively common. And so I'd say on those, we're being a bit more selective, making sure they make more sense because to delay those out. Those have those have been more on the goodwill side versus -- track 2 is really just your -- the assets with some reasonable expectations on earnout potentially. But I would say for us, like, the pipeline of targets is not a limiting factor for us. It's pretty healthy on both those fronts.
Prit Singh
attendeeJust next question here. How much of your revenue growth this quarter was a result of new acquisitions and pro centers coming online? Did you also see same-store sales growth across existing Pro Center locations?
Shawn Wilson
executiveYes. I'll actually take that one and then, Jay, you can add to it or Kerry, can add to it. So in Q2, the structure for the end acquisition was effectively neutral -- ARAP neutral, and there's a buildup period for institutional flooring. So that -- what I'm trying to say there is -- the short answer is no. On the revenue side, Q2 is not really where that started showing up. Anything you would like -- will add to that?
Kerry Biggs
executiveYes. I think I'd just echo that, Shawn. So generally speaking, we're going to see the run rate of Orlando moving forward, kind of starting now as we speak, right? So the majority of the revenue in Q2 was kind of current operations. A little bit of it was Orlando as it ramped up. Happy to kind of get into the specific numbers offline through Prit. But yes, the majority of our current Q2 revenue was kind of current operations with a small portion of Orlando.
John Allen
executiveYes, which is why we really believe we -- the model held up well. For 2 reasons, I'd say first and foremost, a majority of our current revenue outside of e-commerce is concentrated in Michigan. And Michigan, the macro environment had pretty -- hit pretty hard, right, with all the noise, with all the states, you can have a lot of volume in. And then for us to stand up well and this location is to do very well in that environment was really encouraging also, I think, a testament to the team and as well the model that we're running in addition to that. So it's interesting to see. Like so if you look at the overall industry with estimates kind of what we've said earlier, potentially down 2% to 5%. That's going to be a lot sharper and -- some of those areas are heavily impacted. And for us to stand up what we did was pretty exciting.
Prit Singh
attendeeGreat. It's a 2-part question. It sounds like you would like to double e-commerce business over the next few years. When do you think we'll start to see higher growth rates this year or next year? And what type of EBITDA margins do you target for e-commerce?
Shawn Wilson
executiveYes. Jay, do you want to take that one to start off and I can fill in?
John Allen
executiveSure. On the e-commerce side, we are targeting higher growth rates really starting now in the fourth quarter of this year, and we are investing in order to grow that business now and then into 2026. And then on the e-commerce side, we target EBITDA margins -- I mean, we target product margin above 50%.
Shawn Wilson
executiveYes. And from there, that product margin bleeds down a little bit with the fulfillment costs. But I would say I think like maybe like the root question there is, hey, if you double e-commerce, like what does that do to your financials? So I would say, if you look at like the contribution margin, take 20%, 25%, somewhere in there, that's like a pretty good like number. That business model is highly leverageable. So for example, if you were to pick up another $10 million in sales, a whole lot of that flows down the bottom line.
Prit Singh
attendeeYes. Perfect. Should we expect you to pursue additional equity raises moving forward? Or will future growth be funded through your debt facility and operating cash flow?
Shawn Wilson
executiveYes. So that one, I'll -- few thoughts and Kerry feel free to fill in. Like look, we've said this before, and I think we've probably more so than others, like we treat equity as one of most viable assets, of course, we have. And so for us, we're primarily interested in growth and doing it in a way that's the most par on track 1, track 2, you have deals that are -- you can mostly inventory, AR, things like that. So we tend to prefer those type of growth strategies that you can intuitively use debt for. And then when it comes to comes to things like way outside of that, like potentially, you can look at the need to use equity. But I think like frugality there on the equity side, it's a good characteristic of how we think about our team and our bias on how we structure deals. So Kerry, any thoughts you want to add on that in addition to it?
Kerry Biggs
executiveYes. No, I think I echo what you just said, right? So we have a lot of dry powder right now on the equity side. our debt facility as well provides a significant liquidity and capacity. So in the near term, even in the medium term, we have absolutely no thoughts on new equity, right? So we have lots of runway here to use what we have, and we're very excited. So yes, no immediate need for new equity.
Prit Singh
attendeeYes. Okay. Great. [Operator Instructions]. Alternatively, you can email us at [email protected]. That's [email protected]. Okay. I guess there's no further questions. Thank you to our attendees. Thank you, Shawn, Kerry and Jay today. That is it for the Q&A function today. Before we end the conference call, Shawn, do you have any closing comments you would like to share with our audience?
Shawn Wilson
executiveYes, I want to say thank you. We really appreciate folks coming along with us on the journey. It's been a lot of fun. Really for the rest of the 2025, our focus is growth. We've done the work to set the platform and now it's just time to lean into expansion and momentum. I want to say thanks for your time. And as always, we're happy to share more feedback or answer questions offline as well. So thanks for tuning in, and we appreciate you all very much.
Prit Singh
attendeeThank you. And for viewers again, Build trades on the TSXV under the ticker BILD, B-I-L-D and on the OTCQB under the ticker, BDCTF. For those that couldn't attend, the recording of today's earnings call will be uploaded on to BuildDirect's Investor Relations website. If you have any internal questions or were not addressed during the call, please do send them into [email protected]. I would like to thank everyone for joining us today. Have a good day.
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