Certara, Inc. (CERT) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
May 14, 2024
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Michael Ryskin
analyst[Audio Gap] session. Thanks for joining us, everyone. My name is Mike Ryskin. I'm on the BofA life science tools and diagnostics teams, and I'm excited to be joined by John Gallagher, Chief Financial Officer of Certara. John, thank you for coming.
John Gallagher
executiveHi, Mike. Thanks. Yes. Thanks for having me, Mike.
Michael Ryskin
analystWe'll do a fireside chat as usual, but maybe just to kick things off, you recently reported 1Q results. Anything you want to recap or just give us an update on how things played out relative to your expectations?
John Gallagher
executiveYes. I mean, look, the Q1 played out in line with our expectations. And as far as how we had looked at the plan, then things came in line. Software performed really well, which is a continuation of what we saw last year. Software put up 19% revenue growth on the quarter, and that's on the heels of a mid-teens last year. So very pleased with what we've seen on the software side of the business. And then in services, although services was flat, we did see a continuation of this notion of stability. So coming out of the back half of last year, we were looking for stability in our bookings, stability in the performance of the services business and looking at Q3 of last year, Q4 of last year. And now Q1 of this year, we are seeing that stability. So that's kind of what we're seeing for the quarter.
Michael Ryskin
analystOkay. And then from there, I'll just take a step back a little bit and talk about some of the bigger picture items. I think to start, Certara is a very unique business. Not a lot of direct comps, very unique technology and sort of unique market you play in. So maybe you could just walk us through sort of your view of biosimulation and what the value add is to the pharma company.
John Gallagher
executiveYes. Yes, sure. So Certara is a software and services company that's focused on model-informed drug development or biosimulation. And what that means is we're developing computer-aided models of biological processes, and then we're using those to help our customers with their -- mainly in the clinical phase of drug development is where most of our business is, and we're helping enable that clinical phase through our software and our services. Our customers, we have over 2,000 customers from the biggest biopharma customers to biotechs, and we're helping enable them by selling both the software. And of that software, we have a few different programs that really comprise the -- or platforms that comprise the majority of our software. That's Simcyp, it's Phoenix and it's Pinnacle 21. And then our services offerings are centered around biosimulation services, which help support either those software platforms or can help -- we work on projects with biotechs to help them even in the earlier phases of their development.
Michael Ryskin
analystOkay. So a lot there that I want to sort of follow up on. Maybe just to start, some of the ones you called out, Simcyp, Phoenix, Pinnacle 21. You've talked about those platforms for years. Could you give us a little bit of further detail on each of them, sort of like what the value add is, what do they enable your customers to do that they wouldn't be able to do otherwise?
John Gallagher
executiveYes. So the 3 largest software platforms comprise about 80% of our software revenue, and it is the ones you just said, Simcyp, it's Phoenix, and it's Pinnacle. Simcyp is sort of core biosimulation tool. It's a consortium model with some of the largest drug companies in the world, come together in this consortium to help drive model-informed drug development, which started a long time ago with a model of a liver, and has since moved on to having over a dozen different organs modeled. So that's sort of core biosimulation, if you will. Phoenix is also biosimulation related. It has a larger customer base and very strong renewals and expansions. In fact, one thing that I should have mentioned before, too, is our software -- on the quarter, our software net retention ratio was 114%. And that -- what that's indicative of is it's indicative of our existing customers and -- not only renewing, but then also expanding, driving that ratio to a high point that we've seen historically. And when it comes to Phoenix, that's indicative of strong renewal rates, and then expansions of additional products. And then the third one is Pinnacle 21, which is in the space of data formatting, data standardization for regulatory submissions. It's a ratable software business with high penetration across biopharmas.
Michael Ryskin
analystOkay. And then -- so that covers the software side of things. On the services side, as you said, a lot of it is really tied to biosimulation services. So how do those 2 parts of the business go hand-in-hand? And sort of what's the relationship between them?
John Gallagher
executiveYes. So probably the best way to think about that is if you break it down into customer tiering, we think about our customers in 3 tiers, a Tier 1, a Tier 2 and a Tier 3. We define that as Tier 1 customers are customers whose annual revenue is $5 billion or more, so think big pharma companies. And then Tier 3s are customers whose annual revenue is $100 million or less. So there, you can think more biotechs. And the way to think about how the services offerings port into and correlate to the software business is the software business, as you would expect, naturally skews more toward Tier 1, because those big customers have more of a propensity to be buying the software products that we have, and they've got more experience in the drug development space that's allowing them to make use of that software. And oftentimes, they use services associated with it. But when you skew over to the services side, then you see that the higher proportion of our revenue on the services side is in Tier 3s. And so that sort of fits together. So our services offerings are complementary from a customer tiering perspective, because we're hitting these customers with different value propositions at different points in their life cycles.
Michael Ryskin
analystThat's helpful. And then within services, you also have regulatory services, regulatory players. What's been sort of the key factors there? That business has been a little bit more choppy over the last couple of quarters, last couple of years.
John Gallagher
executiveYes, it has. And the recovery in regulatory services is slower than we anticipated. That business -- or that market, rather, is growing more slowly than the biosimulation side of the market. And we are -- but one thing that we've been doing to address that is last year, we did consolidate leadership of our services business to have biosimulation services and regulatory services under one leader. It allows for more cross-sell opportunity. And we really saw some fruits of that combination in the late part of last year as we were getting some of the larger regulatory services bookings in Q4, which has typically been the case. And last year, earlier in the year, we weren't seeing that. They came in, in Q4, and that was a good sign toward the recovery. But it continues to be a challenging spot for us.
Michael Ryskin
analystOkay. All right. So we kind of ran through the background of sort of the setup. I want to dive into a little bit more of the forward outlook, your '24 guide and sort of the story beyond that. So as you said, on 1Q, you [ related to ] your '24 guidance. It calls for about 11% revenue growth, a little bit of a year-over-year step down in margins. In 1Q, you put up 7%. So you're implying some acceleration as you go through the year. What are the factors underpinning that? What's driving that pickup as you go through the year?
John Gallagher
executiveYes. That's a good question, Mike. So one of the things there, at the time that we did the guidance we had laid out, that the services business is typically, and we expect to be this year too, more weighted to the back half. So there's a first half, second half story around what we're seeing or expecting for revenue achievement in the services business. So there's a natural lift associated with that. Additionally, the performance of the acquired businesses, we expect to accelerate during -- as the quarters progress, with Q1 being one of the lower quarters for this year. So what our guidance contemplates is it contemplates the stable end market environment kind of persists for the year. And for us to be at the lower end of that guidance, we would need to see a deterioration in the end markets. We're not seeing that. So the good news is that's not something we're seeing. It's not something we're anticipating. To be at the higher end of the guidance range, that's really focused on some of the efforts that I mentioned earlier. So it's really centered in this stable end market environment, our execution against some of the initiatives that we've had in place. So we said we were investing in sales and marketing. We made some changes to the commercial organization. I just mentioned that we combined the services businesses' leadership during the course of last year. We think that, that can help drive execution and growth during the course of this year, and if that plays out a little better than we had anticipated, then that would push us more to the higher end.
Michael Ryskin
analystOkay. And then thinking about underlying customer demand, underlying customer budgets, things like that. There's been a lot of talk about biotech funding. First quarter was obviously a really good start. You talked about Tier 1 versus Tier 3 in terms of your customer segments. Obviously, Tier 3 is where we're talking about emerging biotech and [ have ] that funding environment. So early signs there. Are you incorporating any of that improvement in end market into your outlook? Or would that just be upside at this point?
John Gallagher
executiveThat would be upside. So the guidance that we contemplated did not rely upon a recovery in the end markets there. What we've seen is that in the Tier 2 and particularly the Tier 3s, as you said, Mike, then we have not seen a recovery back to -- at least as it relates to our bookings and sales back to historic levels of spend. And so that's something we're keeping our eye on. Obviously, it's a really great sign that the capital markets have been conducive and biotechs are getting funding, and make no mistake, we are sending our commercial team squarely at the organizations that are receiving funding. But it takes time. And we thought that would be the case. We didn't see it in the Q1 numbers. We wouldn't expect to see it in the Q2 numbers, because from the time a company gains funding to sorting out capital allocation priorities to then ultimately creating a booking with Certara, we expect that to take time and have not baked that into the guidance for the year.
Michael Ryskin
analystOkay. And you touched on earlier, when you were discussing the business, you talked about 114% net retention in 1Q in software. I don't think you gave a number for services. But in general, as you look back over the last year or so and some of the choppy market environment we've been, has the retention rate dropped? Is it not upselling new accounts, not bringing in new accounts? Sort of where does the choppiness materialize in the business?
John Gallagher
executiveYes. That 114% is more of a software metric that we look at. But to your point, though, where -- the choppiness has been centered really in both sides of the services business. So we talk about biosim services, and then as we talked about regulatory services offerings that we have. We've seen the choppiness in both of those, particularly with Tier 3 customers, and there's been some churn there as some of those customers have gone away, and then other customers have come in. And what we haven't seen is we haven't seen the spending patterns or the bookings engagement return to historical levels. So that's -- that inflection -- I think we said on the call that although the funding environment is much better, and that's a great sign, it's not yet an inflection point for Certara's bookings. And that wasn't totally unexpected, but perhaps something that we see later in the year.
Michael Ryskin
analystOkay. And since you touched on bookings, I kind of want to follow up on that. Historically, from a model perspective, we've always kind of relied on trailing 12-month bookings both in software and services to guide the forward model. Your outlook for revenue growth in 2024 is a little bit better than trailing 12-month bookings would indicate from last year. Is there anything -- part of that obviously is the M&A you completed. That's a factor of it. But is there anything else driving that? Do you think that relationship continues to hold longer term? Or is there some reason you're able to outperform your bookings?
John Gallagher
executiveThere's 2 points that really go beyond, as you said, just the fact that the book-to-bill ratio is more like a 1:1. There's 2 factors that would drive us to be able to achieve higher than what would historically been indicated by that 1:1. One of those factors would be the backlog. So we had stronger services bookings in Q3, and especially Q4 of last year, that -- and the engagement with our customers to initiate, progress and complete projects was slower than we've seen historically, which created a bit more backlog than we've seen historically to solve for and convert to revenues during the course of this year. And you saw that play out even in Q1, where our revenue achievement remained strong and in line with our expectations, even though the bookings on the services side was softer. The other thing on -- as far as why would we achieve a bit higher than what you might have seen historically on a book-to-bill, the other reason is associated with new software products. So we've seen really strong uptake on new software product offerings, more so than we'd seen in recent years. And obviously, that was reflected in the results that we had on Q1. And that is the other key driver why we would be able to achieve higher, at least contemplated higher, in our guidance on the year. So -- and all of that, as you said, is in addition to the accretion associated with the M&A transactions that we did in Q4, which are adding to our overall growth number on the year.
Michael Ryskin
analystOkay. And just because you talked about new software offerings, how do you think about price as part of the algorithm both in 2024 and longer term? You've got a lot of -- you've got high retention, high renewals. Are there automatic price escalators? And sort of what role does that play in the model?
John Gallagher
executiveYes. price, so we do take price, and we take price on an annual basis. Obviously, we have a lot of customers, and we have long relationships with many, many of our customers. And so what we've found is that consistently raising price in and around sort of the level of CPI has been something that helps the business and is also conducive to the relationships we have with our customers. And that is -- most of our bookings are annual, but for any multi-years there, that's about the level of price we have built in as an escalator. But we do take price every year, but just -- and we do that consistently, but just not in any outsized way.
Michael Ryskin
analystOkay. And maybe we can touch on competition here. I mean there's one public competitor that we know. It's not a direct head-to-head competitor, but there's another biosimulation play out there. There's a lot of private offerings. There are a lot of sort of do-it-yourself solutions. There's also just the more traditional nonsimulation way of running clinical trials. What's your view of sort of the evolution of the competitive landscape? As your technology has improved, what's pharmas' and your biotech sponsors' perspective on where they want to take this market?
John Gallagher
executiveYes, yes. Well, as you look at biosimulation, you're right, there are a lot of players that are sort of at a smaller level. There are high barriers to entry as it relates to biosimulation when it comes to software and then doing biosimulation at scale. So the barriers are less if it's a small consulting shop that's coming in and working on 1 project, but to do it at scale the way that Certara does is really what's some of our key competitive advantages, and that's why we're the market leader in this space.
Michael Ryskin
analystOkay. So yes, you haven't really seen a big change in terms of other entrants or in terms of pharma being more willing just to maybe take on some of these costs internally. It still seems like you're sort of in that leadership position.
John Gallagher
executiveYes. We haven't seen a large change from that standpoint. Obviously, the big pharmas have always been able to have the resources to do some of that work in-house. But certainly, we've been able to prove out that there's a good model here to be able to leverage Certara's software and services outside as well. And I guess the other thing, the other thought to build on that, too, is that there's an adoption curve for biosimulation that's sort of like -- the key to really unlocking a lot of growth for biosimulation is escalating that adoption curve for biosimulation by the big pharma companies taking on -- understanding the value proposition at senior levels of their organization. That's -- one of the sales organization moves we made is to increase the call point within the largest biopharma companies to a level of decision authority where they're able to see really what the value proposition is to use biosimulation more pervasively across their programs instead of it being isolated in various silos inside of these large companies. So that's a key to unlocking adoption, and that's what's really going to help aid Certara growth. The other piece of that, too, is the regulator. So take like the FDA as an example. The FDA is a big user of our software. We hold webinars to train them on the software. They provided guidances on Certara's software, but it certainly will help to get some continuation of that kind of support to smooth the pathway to use more technology rather than the traditional pathway for clinical studies.
Michael Ryskin
analystJust following up right on that. I mean I think one of the things we've always debated is what is the right pace of adoption? What do you think we should be thinking about? And if you think about -- you just touched on the FDA. Yes, they've been your, I believe your #1 customer for a number of years. So clearly, the regulators are onboard. And they're not the only regulatory agency that's on board with biosimulation. And a lot of your major pharma customers have been using either Simcyp or Phoenix or, more recently, Pinnacle 21, for a number of years. So there's familiarity with the solutions. So why isn't penetration happening even faster? I mean what's sort of like -- what's holding back that faster adoption? Because you are still very underpenetrated in the market and what the opportunity could be.
John Gallagher
executiveYes. That's right, Mike. That's right. We are relatively underpenetrated, just -- not just Certara, but just biosimulation use cases in total. And I think that what you're touching on and the dynamic that I was speaking of is the key sort of tension in the industry in order to unlock what we believe is significant growth into the future. Because we see the biosimulation market, with Certara as a leader, but the whole market, in general, growing at about 15%. I think one of the key questions or the way that you put it is, well, why wouldn't it grow 100%? And I think that the answer to that really lies in the -- both the regulators providing a smooth pathway for drug companies to use more technology and then also for the drug companies to really embrace and look at the use of technology to help drive more efficiency in their spend programs and be in a position where they feel comfortable submitting more and more submissions to the FDA with the use of technology. And so I think that, that dynamic takes time to play out, and that's why we think it's an adoption. It's a more of a multiyear adoption than it's something that happens overnight.
Michael Ryskin
analystOkay. All right. Any questions from the audience? Anyone want to jump in? All right. I'll keep going [ a new ] one. As I think you were just touching on, you recently went through a pretty major sales force reorganization. Can you highlight some of the changes you made and what the impact you're seeing in terms of cross-selling and some of the business momentum there?
John Gallagher
executiveYes. Yes. Yes. So going back to a couple of points I made earlier. So last year, we made some changes to the way that we approach our customers and the way that we organize the sales force. We named the Chief Commercial Officer, and then we centralized the commercial support under the Chief Commercial Officer, all with the goal of a couple of things. One, as you were touching on, cross-sell opportunities. So how do we bring sort of the message of one Certara when we're having customer conversations? Many of our customers view us from the lens of, I buy Phoenix, or I buy Simcyp, or I buy Pinnacle, and we want to make sure that we open the door for all of the possibilities of what Certara offers from a product portfolio perspective. In fact, that brings up a point on Certara Cloud that we started talking about on the call, starts to introduce that notion as that's a single sign-on kind of a platform that allows visibility to all of the products that we offer. So that's an enhancement centered on cross-sell. But then the other part of our sales reorganization was also centered on elevating that discussion and elevating the call point at our customers, and how do we get ourselves to a spot where we're talking to the right level that really can really help drive that adoption curve, because they have the decision authority about how they're going to allocate R&D dollars within these larger organizations.
Michael Ryskin
analystOkay. All right. And then maybe just switching to the P&L really quick. A couple of points I want to hit on. You're one of the rare IPOs that not only doesn't have to worry about cash burn, but is also actually not just profitable, but very profitable, with your low 30s EBITDA margin. But there's a lot of moving pieces there, right? There's the mix shift between software and services. There's, on the one hand, you've got continued investment in R&D and SG&A, as you discussed, and you've also got some of the acquisitions you've got coming in. So putting all that together, sort of what's your view on the pathway for margins from here, specifically EBITDA margins?
John Gallagher
executiveYes. Yes. Good question. So historically, the company has run with an adjusted EBITDA margin in the range of sort of the mid-30s. And this year, we made a conscious decision to make investments. Those investments were centered in sales and marketing and R&D to catalyze growth into the future, some of which I touched on during the course of this conversation. But those were investments that, obviously, we believe will pay off with returns at the tail -- either at the tail end of this year or moving into next year. But it does provide for some margin compression inside of this year. In addition to that, we did do 2 acquisitions in Q4, and because we're still working through the integration of those acquisitions, and the Q1 margin, as an example, was impacted by about 200 basis points, because we're still working through the integrations. Now we believe that we can get those -- both of those organizations up to the Certara corporate average relatively quickly, but not in 1 quarter. So that was a piece of it too. So as we look out and think about longer-term margins for Certara, then we made a conscious decision to take that margin guidance and make it lower based on the investments as well as some of the dilution that we knew was coming on the M&A activity. We fully believe that the revenue growth that these investments will catalyze is going to help put us in a spot where we think that, that margin compression is temporary. And into the future, we'd expect to be able to get some margin expansion as a result of that. And Bill and I have been pretty clear -- like we can operate -- we do have flexibility to be able to operate the company at various different margin points. If we chose to, we could have not done those investments and had a higher margin this year. But we think now is the right time to make those investments, and we do think it will provide for margin expansion into the future. And so the longer-term outlook is not that we took a step function down this year and then we stay at those margin levels, but instead, that we're making conscious investments that are going to drive margin expansion into the future.
Michael Ryskin
analystOkay. And on the topic of acquisitions, you touched on a couple of times, but you closed 2 deals late in 2023. And historically, Certara has been a pretty acquisitive business. What's the -- can you give us an update on your capital deployment priorities from here in terms of debt, leverage, what you're looking for in further assets, how much capital you have to deploy?
John Gallagher
executiveYes, yes. So on capital allocation, a few things. About the balance sheet, so we have $225 million of cash. As you pointed out, we've not only been spending, because we did acquisitions, especially in the Q4 of last year, but we also generate cash, too. So we're adding to that cash balance. Our -- we have very low net leverage, thanks to the cash. And we do have a term loan out there, but it's -- that -- the cash and the term loan are basically partially offsetting one another. So from a leverage and balance sheet and cash position, we're in a good spot to take advantage of opportunities that come our way. Those opportunities -- first of all, we don't have to do a deal. As we just got done talking about, there's plenty of organic investments that we can make into the company. But we do -- we have been successful with M&A, and we do continue to look at the pipeline. And as we look at it, then there's deals -- we've generally been doing tuck-ins. I think that we could also -- based on everything that I just said, we could also do deals of a larger size, too. I think it just depends on what that opportunity looks like and what the profile and the valuation is as to whether it would make sense for us. I can tell you that we look more towards software strategically when we think about M&A and sort of rounding out our portfolio.
Michael Ryskin
analystOkay. All right. Almost out of time, so maybe just my last question. John, you've -- now you've had a couple of quarters to sort of settle into your role at Certara. Just sort of what are your biggest learnings? What do you see as the really interesting opportunities in front of you as well as the bigger challenges?
John Gallagher
executiveYes. Yes. Well, I've been thrilled to have joined Certara, as I already mentioned. I think that the growth prospects for biosimulation and for Certara as the market leader in biosimulation are tremendous going forward. And so I think that what we've seen over the course of the last 12 months or more, related to some of the volatility that we've seen, particularly on the services side in our bookings, is something that will revert over time. And I think that we will see a return to historical spending patterns at some point, and that drug companies are going to continue to spend on drug development. And I think that -- so certainly, the end market environment has been a challenge for us in the near term, but we haven't lost sight of the real growth opportunity over the long term. And that's why we've taken this opportunity to lean in with some investments that we know are going to help us pay off into the future.
Michael Ryskin
analystGreat. And with that, we're going to call it. Thanks so much. Thanks, everyone, for joining.
John Gallagher
executiveThank you. Thanks.
Michael Ryskin
analystThanks, John.
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