CGI Inc. ($GIBA)

Earnings Call Transcript · April 29, 2026

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Highlights from the call

In the second quarter of fiscal 2026, CGI Inc. reported revenue of $4.2 billion, reflecting a 3.3% year-over-year increase, driven by strong demand in the APAC region and recent acquisitions. Adjusted EBIT rose to $692 million, resulting in an adjusted EPS of $2.27, a 7.1% increase from the prior year. Management maintained a positive outlook, expecting organic growth in the U.S. Federal segment in Q3 and signaling continued strength in bookings, which totaled $4.3 billion with a book-to-bill ratio of 104%.

Main topics

  • Revenue Growth: CGI reported revenue of $4.2 billion, up 3.3% year-over-year, with a 1.6% increase when excluding foreign exchange impacts. Management noted, "Growth was driven by our recent business acquisitions and continued demand for our APAC delivery center, especially from our North American clients."
  • Bookings Strength: The company achieved bookings of $4.3 billion, resulting in a book-to-bill ratio of 104%. The U.S. Federal segment led with a ratio of 122%, indicating strong demand and recovery. Management stated, "Based on what we see in the pipeline and our bookings strength in Q2, we expect that CGI Federal will return to positive organic growth in Q3."
  • Profitability Metrics: Adjusted EBIT for the quarter was $692 million, yielding a margin of 16.6%, up 10 basis points year-over-year. This reflects effective cost management amid growth initiatives. Management emphasized, "Our capital allocation priorities have always remained consistent to deliver shareholder value."
  • AI Strategy Progress: CGI's focus on AI integration is evident, with management highlighting that "every new CGI managed services proposal embeds advanced AI as the rule, the exception." This strategy is expected to drive operational efficiencies and client demand for new projects.
  • Geographic Performance Variability: While the U.S. Federal segment showed improvement, management noted delays in decision-making in Europe, particularly in the Nordic countries. They stated, "We also were impacted by delays in decision-making across Europe, mainly with the Nordic countries."

Key metrics mentioned

  • Revenue: $4.2 billion (up 3.3% YoY, driven by acquisitions and APAC demand)
  • Adjusted EBIT: $692 million (up 3.9% YoY, margin of 16.6%)
  • Adjusted EPS: $2.27 (up 7.1% YoY)
  • Bookings: $4.3 billion (book-to-bill ratio of 104%)
  • Contracted Backlog: $31.5 billion (1.9x revenue)
  • Cash from Operations: $451 million (11% of total revenue)

CGI's solid performance in Q2 2026, driven by strategic acquisitions and a robust AI strategy, positions the company well for future growth. However, the delays in decision-making in Europe and potential pricing pressures warrant close monitoring. Investors should watch for continued strength in bookings and the effectiveness of CGI's AI integration as key catalysts.

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

Operator
#1

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to CGI's Second Quarter Fiscal 2026 Conference Call. I would now like to turn the meeting over to Mr. Kevin Linder, SVP of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Mr. Linder.

Kevin Linder

Executives
#2

Thank you, Sylvia, and good morning. With me to discuss CGI's second quarter fiscal 2026 results are Francois Boulanger, our President and CEO; and Steve Perron, Executive Vice President and CFO. This call is being broadcast on cgi.com and recorded live at 9:00 a.m. Eastern Time on Wednesday, April 29, 2026. Supplemental slides as well as the press release we issued earlier this morning are available for download along with our MD&A, financial statements and accompanying notes, all of which have been filed with both SEDAR+ and EDGAR. Please note that some statements made on the call may be forward-looking. Actual events or results may differ materially from those expressed or implied and CGI disclaims any intent or obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. The complete safe harbor statement is available in both our MD&A and press release as well as on cgi.com. We recommend our investors read it in its entirety. We are reporting our financial results in accordance with International Financial Reporting Standards or IFRS. As always, we will also discuss non-GAAP performance measures, which should be viewed as supplemental. The MD&A contains definitions of each one used in our reporting. All of the dollar figures expressed on this call are Canadian, unless otherwise noted. Now I'll turn the call over to Steve to review our Q2 financials and then Francois will comment on the business and market outlook. Steve?

Steve Perron

Executives
#3

Thank you, Kevin, and good day, everyone. In our second quarter of fiscal 2026, we continue to create value for our shareholders while executing on our AI strategy. In the quarter, we delivered $4.2 billion of revenue up 3.3% year-over-year or up 1.6% when excluding the impact of foreign exchange. Growth was driven by our recent business acquisitions and continued demand for our APAC delivery center, especially from our North American clients. APAC reported growth of 7.2%, supported by [indiscernible], our winning AI-powered offering for the delivery of managed services. In our U.K. and Australia segment, with our acquisition of [indiscernible] growth was 16.5%. In our Western and Southern Europe segment, growth was 8.3%, led by our acquisition of [indiscernible], which added scale for our software engineering services. Our U.S. Federal unit took a bit longer to recover from delays in decision-making and the ramp-up of new contracted work following the full U.S. government shutdown. This segment improved sequentially. And based on what we see in the pipeline and our bookings strength in Q2, we expect that CGI Federal will return to positive organic growth in Q3. We also were impacted by delays in decision-making across Europe, mainly with the Nordic countries. Bookings in the quarter were $4.3 billion or a book-to-bill ratio of 104% led by a strong return in our U.S. Federal segment at 122%. Other notable segments were concentrated in Europe, with Germany at 114% and Scandinavia, Northwest and Central East Europe and WSE at 111%. On a trailing 12-month basis, bookings reached a record eye of $18 billion, up 6% or nearly $1 billion. Book-to-bill ratio was 108%, with North America at 117% and Europe at 102%. On [indiscernible] basis, Managed Services had a book-to-bill ratio of 118% and the FI&C book-to-bill ratio was 98%. Our contracted backlog stands at $31.5 billion or 1.9x revenue. Of the $31.5 billion, we have almost [indiscernible]. Turning to profitability. Adjusted EBIT in the quarter was $692 million, up 3.9% year-over-year for a very strong margin of 16.6%, up 10 basis points. Including acquisition and related integration costs of $41 million, earnings before income taxes were $618 million for a margin of 14.9%. Our effective tax rate in the quarter was 26.6%, an increase from the 25.9% in the prior year when excluding the tax impacts from acquisition and related integration costs. The increase is mainly explained by the new corporate tax surcharge in France. Based on enacted rates at the end of the quarter and our current profitability mix, we expect our tax rate for future quarters to be in the range of 26% to 27%. Adjusted net earnings were $483 million for a margin of 11.6%. On the same basis, diluted EPS was $2.27, an accretion of 7.1% when compared to Q2 last year. Net earnings were $445 million for a margin of 10.7% and diluted EPS was $2.09, an accretion of 10.6% when compared to Q2 last year. Turning to cash. On the back of strong cash generation in our first quarter was $180 million of prepayments from clients in Q2 we generated $451 million, representing 11% of total revenue. Our cash on a trailing 12-month basis was $2.5 billion, representing 15% of revenue. DSO was 40 days, unchanged when compared to the prior year. In Q2, we continue to deploy our capital and invested $105 million back in your business, which includes strategic investment in advanced AI, $397 million to buy back our stock, and in addition, we returned $36 million to our shareholders under our dividend program. Yesterday, our Board of Directors approved a quarterly cash dividend of $0.17 per share, this dividend is payable on June 19, 2026, to shareholders of record as of the close of business on May 15, 2026. At quarter end, CGI had over $2.2 billion in capital resources readily available and a net debt leverage ratio of just over 1. And yesterday, we increased our credit facility by $1 billion, now totaling $2.5 billion, providing additional financial capacity for our build and buy growth plans. Our capital allocation priorities have always remained consistent to deliver shareholder value, investing back in the business, pursuing accretive acquisitions and share buybacks. Now I will turn the call over to Francois to further discuss insights on the quarter, the progress on our AI strategy and the outlook for our business and markets. Francois?

François Boulanger

Executives
#4

Thank you, Steve, and good morning, everyone. Today, I will focus on our first half performance, the demand outlook for the second [indiscernible]. Revenue was up 5.5% or 2.5% in constant currency to more than $8.2 billion. Adjusted EBIT was up 5.4% to $1.35 million. Adjusted EPS was up 7.4% to $4.38, and cash from operations totaled over $1.3 billion, up by more than $238 million, representing 16.1% of revenue. Each of these results represent a record high for half year performance, demonstrating CGI's proven discipline and agility to deliver shareholder value. Accordingly, these results also underscore our financial strength and our ongoing capacity to invest in profitable growth to position CGI for the future. CI's financial health remains a differentiator in the current market for shareholders and for clients. Thank you to our experts, engineers and consultants around the world for earning the trust of our clients every day. Your expertise, insights and commitment make these results possible. During Q2, many clients again face an unpredictable business environment. To help them navigate these conditions, many turn to CGI as a trusted steadfast partner to help them consider new strategies and delivery approaches, notably to address the opportunity to integrate advanced AI at the enterprise level. Our positioning contributed to strong first half bookings of nearly $8.8 billion, up $141 million year-over-year, even with temporary decision delays impacting some larger agreements, mainly in Finland. Specific to government sector bookings, we saw a return to strong awards in the quarter with a book-to-bill of 111%. This was led by our U.S. Federal segment at 122% as our team closed a combination of large managed services wins as well as IP and AI land monetization engagements. The strong quarter raised the U.S. Federal trailing 12-month book-to-bill to 111%. The first time this metric has been above 110% since Q4 of fiscal 2024. With these new projects in U.S. Federal, we expect this segment to grow organically in Q3, as Steve indicated. From a services perspective, wings were driven by robust demand for our AI and IP integrated managed services, which totaled $10.5 billion on a trailing 12-month basis for a book-to-bill of 118%. Clients continue to expand core system modernization to drive operational efficiencies and generate savings to reinvest in new priorities, requiring more systems integration and consulting services such as AI adversary and change management. Continuing the trend we signaled last quarter, demand for [ SI and CROs ] in Q2 with a book-to-bill of 104%. This also represents a sequential quarter improvement of 5.5%. Strong SI&C wins in H1 contributed to a trailing 12-month increase of more than $800 million compared to the previous period. Representative Q2 wins included U.S. Social Security Administration expanded its relationships with CGI [indiscernible] contract to provide 24/7 support of mission critical infrastructure, serving more than 75 million beneficiaries. [indiscernible] reinforces CGI's role in operating large-scale secure government systems. The U.S. Department of Veteran Affairs extended its partnership with CGI to advance financial management transformation using CGI's Momentum Enterprise Suite. In Germany, Schneider Electric expanded its agreement with CGI to deliver end-to-end AI-enabled solutions for energy providers across 3 countries. Combining consulting, integration and managed services to help utilities optimize operations and navigate regulatory complexity. And a subsidiary of the Saint-Gobain group in France selected CGI's Retail Suite IP to modernize point-of-sale systems across 68 locations, improving checkout efficiency transaction security and real-time operational ability. CGI's global alliance relationships are also contributing to our bookings and our pipeline of opportunities is up more than 180%. Recently, we expanded our joint to go-to-market collaboration with AWS, OpenAI and Google [indiscernible]. We also continue to deepen our existing partnerships with firms like Microsoft, SAP, Databricks and salesforce through advanced certifications and recognitions. These developments reinforce CGI's position as a preferred global integrator. Throughout the first half, our financial strength enabled us to continue strategic investments in our business, including M&A. In the quarter, we announced the acquisition of Strat field Consulting, further strengthening CGI's position in [indiscernible] we'll be accretive to each of our stakeholders. I will now turn to the market dynamics, how these shape the outlook and our positioning to drive growth, notably through the continued progression of embedding AI across client enterprises. Throughout Q2, we met with more than 1,800 current and prospective clients, mainly C-level business and IT executives as part of our annual strategic planning. And discussion about their budgets for the next year, 2/3 of executives indicated they plan to sustain or increase their IT budgets. Our pipeline over the next year validates this as the value of new opportunities grew by over 40%. Executives we spoke with also noted that the alignment gap in business and IT within their organization is starting to expand again, making it more challenging to achieve the expected ROI. Over the years, we have measured this ROI metric and this year, the results show a plateau. The jump start their results for monetization client are increasingly turning to AI and managed services, particularly at the C-suite level. Enterprise AI adoption rose compared to last year, with 1/3 of our organizations now at the implementation stage, notably for generative AI, and a top emerging priority remains Gentek AI integrations. These findings are growing alignment gap, stall and accelerating use of emerging technologies are a natural effect of earlier-stage AI adoption. All of these findings create new opportunities for CGI to deliver a wide range of end-to-end services. To understand these shifts and what they mean for CGI growth, it is important to recognize the complex systems underpinning our clients' operations. Introducing AI doesn't simplify this complexity [indiscernible]. It increases the need to manage and integrate it properly. As a result, stand-alone AI tools are not a substitute for enterprise IT, they accelerate tasks and processes but don't solve integration at scale. This complexity is driving new clients' behaviors. For example, organizations continue to move toward fewer trusted IT partners who can deliver end-to-end outcomes. These shifts play directly to CGI strength. We are positioned at the center of this change because of how we operate our engineering client relationships industry expertise and end-to-end value proposition. This enables us to meaningfully embed AI directly into the systems and processes that run our clients' organizations. CGI's AI-first approach is based on 2 core tenets. We make AI real and outcome focus. At the core of every enterprise, including our own, we transform how value is created, how work gets done and how the future is built. We remain well positioned to drive new growth leveraging this AI first approach in 4 ways. We help clients operate more efficiently. We transform the legacy technology estate. We launched new services and solutions to capture net new areas of spend and growth. And across all of these areas, we deliver consulting services. These 4 areas are closely integrated and together, they offer significant opportunities for CGI to grow in this market environment. I will now go deeper in each of these elements. Clients continue to focus on driving efficiency as a top business priority. Through our managed services and IP solutions, we embed AI into IT operations, software delivery and business workflows, reducing manual effort and improving performance. For example, CGI transformed customer service for global financial institution by deploying an AI-driven operations platform integrated with core systems to handle and self-resolve over 500,000 interactions annually. And for our health care organization, we implemented an enterprise AI platform to automate workflows and optimize claims driving higher efficiency, increased savings and establishing a scalable foundation for broader AI-driven transformation. Today, every new CGI managed services proposal embeds advanced AI as the rule, the exception. The majority of our contracts are outcome-based where the margin gains translate into benefits for both clients and CGI shareholders. As Steve mentioned, our AI-powered managed services platform, [indiscernible] was recently recognized with the top innovation honor for helping clients drive practical identic AI adoption. DG Ops integrates CGI IP, accelerators and alliance technologies and spans nearly 200 agents and 400 workflows to automate and improve enterprise operations. As client realized operational efficiencies those savings are not all removed from IT budgets. They are often reinvested. Clients have significant backlogs of monetization [indiscernible] and scale or mission-critical complexity. For example, CGI embedded AI across a utility serving 9 million customers, replacing rule-based outage forecasting to improve grid availability, faster technician onboarding and enabling self-service analytics. And a leading financial institution partnered with CGI to modernize legacy systems using CGI and Seco, our production-grade generative AI platform or code conversion. The project is accelerating the transition to a [indiscernible] architecture, at least 50% and improving system scalability. As clients modernize, they typically invest in new areas to drive their growth and improve stakeholder values. This requires new services and capabilities from CGI which helps them address priorities that cannot be resolved without meterages like AI. For example, CGI developed and deployed the AI Felix platform for NATO to modernize large-scale document processing and task management [indiscernible] and deploy scalable AI solutions with full data sovereignty, regulatory compliance and secure integration within a locally hosted environment. These new services and solutions are not examples of isolated pilots, they are scale AI offerings built for complex enterprises to achieve measurable outcomes. Across these areas, consulting plays a critical role as clients seek guidance on where to apply AI, how to structure their operating models and how to embed new ways of working. This is why we are seeing strong demand for consulting services. In fact, Q2 booking for our [indiscernible] services in AI, change management and risk and cyber security. For example, a leading telecom operator partner with CGI to scale a genetic AI in a secure on-premise environment by defining and deploying road map, framework and use cases. CGI partner with a large European bank to translate its AI strategy into operational governance aligned with regulatory requirements. This created structured processes, improved compliance and enabled faster, more consistent adoption of AI across the organization. In closing, we continue to see indicators of gradual improvement for the rest of the year. Our positioning as the AI to ROI partner for our clients is deliberate. It reflects how we help clients move from potential to performance, and it enables our future growth. Clients today are not looking for generic AI capabilities. They want solutions tailored to their industries and that operate within their constraint, all with a trusted partner who has the capabilities and longevity to be part of their transformation journey. We combine expertise in domains plus technology, including AI, we work inside complex mission-critical environments. We have the proximity and sovereign services and solutions, and we deliver results that are measurable, repeatable and tied to business outcomes. So while the headlines may focus on how easy AI has become, the reality for large enterprises is very different. The real challenge is mastering complexity and that is exactly where CGI is built to lead and to grow. Thank you for your continued interest and support. Let's go to the questions now, Kevin.

Kevin Linder

Executives
#5

Thank you, Francois. Sylvie, we can now pull for questions, and I would ask that each participant hold to 1 question in light of the time we have remaining.

Operator

Operator
#6

[Operator Instructions] First, we will hear from Suthan Sukumar at Stifel.

Suthan Sukumar

Analysts
#7

That's my first question. I just wanted to talk about AI and you guys have announced some recent partnerships with folks like OpenAI and Google. What would you call out as being different about these partnerships relative to what your some of the more traditional tech partnerships that you have today?

François Boulanger

Executives
#8

I don't necessarily see some differences. It's -- for sure, we are close to them. They want us to use their tools and to create platforms that are relevant by industries. And so that's really what we're working, especially with Google and OpenAI. So it's really to help them, and we had our CTO that went to the Google event last week in Vegas, and that's exactly what he was working [indiscernible]. By using AI we were talking about close to 50% of a project where we can use AI to reduce and we see some saving between 20% easily to 40% and sometimes 50% on these portions. So for sure, it's reducing the number or the cost of doing these implementation. But that's the good news on that. It's creating the funnel to do more. And some of these clients then when I'm talking to some of these clients, doing these SAP implementation are costly and some people are postponing or trying to delay. And so this will just create [indiscernible].

Operator

Operator
#9

[indiscernible] go ahead, Kevin.

Kevin Krishnaratne

Analysts
#10

Francois, you talked about your clients are expressing new behaviors with this new technology AI they're talking a fewer IT providers. So I'm wondering, could you talk about maybe your win rates when it comes to some of these AI projects. And where do you feel you may be better positioned than some of your competitors because it seems like everyone is signing a partnership with whether it's Anthropic or OpenAI? I'm just curious as to like why you -- what you bring relative to the others in the industry.

François Boulanger

Executives
#11

Thanks for the question. First of all, it's our model met model, right? We are close to our clients. We know our clients. We understand their complexity. So we're the best suited people for our existing clients to apply and help them with their AI implementation. We're also built by industry [indiscernible] you need people and expertise to implement that. And again, we are also a very good in complex environment. We know we are working with big companies. We understand how to manage complexity. So all that together, I feel that it's giving us advantage to win and grow in that area.

Operator

Operator
#12

Next question will be from Stephanie Price at CIBC.

Stephanie Price

Analysts
#13

Maybe a broader question for you, just characterizing the macro backdrop here. You mentioned some contract signing delays in Europe, but it sounds like U.S. federal is expected to return to growth next quarter. Just curious, macro-wise, what you're hearing from clients and how that varies by geography [indiscernible].

François Boulanger

Executives
#14

[indiscernible] is till a growth factor with all the investment that they want to do in the defense, for example, is potential growth for us in the future. I would say the financial sector are still, as we know, a lot of AI and investment but also very GCCs, managed services is still a lot of discussion on that side. So we're seeing a lot of momentum. I would say the one that is still in flux is the manufacturing, especially in France and Germany. As we know, Germany, it's a tough economy for now. And so that's where we're seeing some softness on that side. But like I'm saying government and financial sector, we're still seeing some good momentum on that time.

Operator

Operator
#15

Next question will be from Richard Tse at National Bank Capital Markets.

Richard Tse

Analysts
#16

Yes. In your comments, you talked about continuing on sort of both the build and buy strategy. So with AI in the backdrop, how does that impact how you assess and then sort of value these prospects? Has anything sort of changed in terms of that process, given sort of the potential disintermediation in the market. But -- just kind of want to understand how you're thinking about that now?

François Boulanger

Executives
#17

We, for sure, like any other merger and acquisition that we looked at, expertise something that we're always looking at also. It needs to be, yes, we're buying client relationships where, yes, it's important, but we need also to be sure that we have the right expertise. So for sure, when we're looking at these companies, AI and how much they are advancing AI technology and AI expertise is a criteria, when we're looking at them. So that's, for sure, one. And as you know, evaluations are down. So it's a very good market for now. And we're there for long term. So we are always strong still believers that this industry will grow in the future if you have naturally the right relationship and the right technology. And that's what we're looking when we're doing [indiscernible].

Operator

Operator
#18

[indiscernible] RBC Capital Markets. Paul.

Paul Treiber

Analysts
#19

You mentioned earlier, AI is driving productivity and cost savings for Managed Services. Can you speak to the pricing, how you're pricing those productivity gains in terms of either how much you're passing along to customers? And then also, is there an opportunity for you to capture some of those savings with higher margin as a result?

François Boulanger

Executives
#20

Well, clearly, and you have to -- I would say, 2 parts. We have our existing 1 that we signed, right? Where we promise a percentage of saving because again, like [indiscernible] we're mostly all outcome-based pricing, especially in the [indiscernible] Services. So we promised a saving percentage. And having AI now it's helping us and accelerating that the production of savings. And so [indiscernible] capable of doing both, and that's how we -- and that's why also it will create new demand, I'm convinced, new demand for managed services because people will see that they can achieve these savings. And it's not everybody who wants to do it by themselves. They all need experts. And so that's why, yes, it will create new savings and cost reduction, but it will create a brand-new demand and managed services.

Operator

Operator
#21

Next question will be from Thanos Moschopoulos at BMO Capital Markets.

Thanos Moschopoulos

Analysts
#22

Can you update us with respect to AI in the context of your IP portfolio. To what extent does that helping accelerate development cycles, something you bring maybe offerings to market, creating some ups opportunities in your existing base just with respect to your track solutions?

François Boulanger

Executives
#23

Yes. Sure. Thanks for the question. So yes, we -- most of our development of IP is done in India. And for sure, we deployed all these tools in India to help them to go faster on these upgrade or a new version of our tools. So for sure, the cost of producing these new version of IP is going down big time. We are also naturally putting agents in our IPs for clients. So that's another big focus. We were talking about agents. So we have more than 400 agents that is included in our IP, included in our service delivery, like I was saying, like [indiscernible] and so we continue to implement these agents for clients and actually using them for our own development.

Operator

Operator
#24

[Operator Instructions] Next is David Kwan at TD Cowen.

David Kwan

Analysts
#25

I was wondering you talked about customers likely using some of the savings that you'd help generate from the AI as it relates to on the managed services side. Do you see that, I guess, as a net neutral or maybe even a net positive in terms of the managed services trajectory? Obviously, it's been the growth has come down here. But I was wondering when you could see that potentially reverse and to what extent customers spending savings on new projects could be either neutral or net positive for you?

François Boulanger

Executives
#26

Yes. I'm seeing it for the future as a net positive. Again, today, when you're meeting with a CIO, also at the time, you'll say that -- or she'll say that they don't have enough budget. Maintenance is, what, 70% to 80% of their budget. So that it's giving them 20% to 30% for new projects. It's never enough. And so when they are able to -- capable of reducing the maintenance or the running cost of their application, they'll use these savings to invest in new product and new services for their own clients. And that's -- I always -- when I'm meeting CEOs and meaning business people, that's what they're expecting them on from their department. So we see that as future growth. And like I was saying before, it will increase also the demand for managed services, because I am saying it's not every company will try to do it by themselves. It's complex. It's not easy tools to implement and they'll need experts like us to help them to achieve their comes.

Kevin Linder

Executives
#27

Just everyone, my apologies. It's Kevin here. I know it's [indiscernible] I thought we'd run out of time, but it looks like we have more time. So if folks on the line have other questions, please feel free to open the Q.

Operator

Operator
#28

Next question will be from Robert Young at Canaccord Genuity.

Robert Young

Analysts
#29

Revenue per employee looks like it's still going higher, and I guess, AI will help that. And then you said you target 16% plus EBIT margins going forward. And looking back to a target you -- I haven't heard you mentioned it in a while, but the double-digit earnings per share growth that was a target in the past. Is that something that you can get to? Or is that a function of the top line growth today? Are there other tools you have operating margin expansion or buyback, et cetera, that could get you back to that double-digit earnings per share growth?

François Boulanger

Executives
#30

Thanks for your questions, Robert. So yes, it's still our aspiration to do double-digit EPS growth, and that will always be the aspiration. On that end, you touch all these levers. I think the first one naturally is growth. And like I was saying, we are seeing a gradual improvement on that growth side. Acquisitions is also very -- we are very active on that side. Our valuations are down, so that will help on the [indiscernible] close to $2 billion. So before acquisitions. So when we can do both acquisitions and share buyback. And for sure, the EBIT margin will continue, and we have some levers at least on a long-term basis. It's not all the segments that are at 16%. We have segments of the business at 20%, 21% and 18%, but we have other ones that are still in the low teens. So we can improve these segments and bring them back to a 15%, 16%, we would be able to come back to an accretion of 10% to 15% in the future.

Robert Young

Analysts
#31

Okay. I think I can ask a second one. The -- it seems to be a little more focused on cybersecurity. I mean there's some worry around mythos, et cetera. And just can you just touch on where you're seeing opportunities related to that in your business? And then I'll pass the line.

François Boulanger

Executives
#32

That's a very good question for sure, a lot of the conversation on cybersecurity. And when we were saying that consulting is picking up, A lot of it is on the cybersecurity side, like you said, with [indiscernible] and all that. For sure, a lot of -- even when I met CEOs lately, that's top of the mind on their mind. And so that's a source of future growth for us for sure.

Operator

Operator
#33

[indiscernible].

Jerome Dubreuil

Analysts
#34

[indiscernible] for me. You did -- you touched on the buybacks a previous answer, but you did a lot of it over the last year, but you did slow down in March, still doing a lot, but still a material slowdown there despite the share price being the press. I'm wondering if there's a particular reason? And then the second follow-up I have you for sure heard about the 4 deploy engineering, where it seems like software companies model maybe evolving a bit closer to an IT service model. How do you compete with those software companies? And have you seen this trend materialize so far?

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#35

Yes. I'll ask Steve to answer the first one, and I'll answer the second one. So Steve.

Steve Perron

Executives
#36

Thank you, Jerome. On the first 1 on the NCIB. Look, what you're looking each quarter, we're looking at the cash -- the free cash flow that we're generating. And it's really based on that, that -- first of all, as you know, we want to grow with good M&A. So we are making sure that we deployed our cash with M&A. But in the quarter, if there is no cash outflow coming from the M&A, we'll look at our free cash flow and we'll purchase some shares. We did yes, less than Q1, but free cash flow was less. So it was done really by design. And that's really it. We are really looking at our cash generation in the quarter and based on that, we are adjusting our NCIB.

François Boulanger

Executives
#37

And Jerome, for your second question, I would say we are a company of for deployed engineers. And again, our model with the proximity, we will do better than all the [indiscernible] that's what we're bringing. And I think that's something that it's harder for these software companies to do. And again, it's not the first time I'm a little bit older than usual. It's not our first time that these technology companies try to go into services and it was always -- it never happened because it's a tough -- they are good in their tools, and they're fantastic to know their tools. but it's not the expertise to manage complexity and manage understanding these industries.

Operator

Operator
#38

Next question will be from Steven Li at Raymond James.

Steven Li

Analysts
#39

Francois, Steve. I heard you on the green shoots. Do you have enough visibility to see positive organic growth exiting the year?

François Boulanger

Executives
#40

Again, as you know, I'm not giving guidance, Steve, but we are seeing improvement and a gradual improvement. I think the fact that example you had federal government that was pretty tough 2 quarters ago at minus 12% this quarter at minus 7%, and the fact that no acquisition on their side. So it's all organic. And the fact now that we were pretty convinced that they'll be able to come back to organic growth this quarter. For sure, that's helping the overall results of the company. So we are seeing these improvements coming back. And so that's why we're positive to say that this improvement will continue in the next several quarters.

Operator

Operator
#41

Next question is from Suthan Sukumar at Stifel.

Suthan Sukumar

Analysts
#42

Just a follow-up for me. On the discretionary spending, segment here from -- sorry, SIMC and more so discretionary spending. What changes in priorities? Are you -- have you guys been seeing from clients compared to recent quarters? And the second part is, some of your offshore peers have been talking about pricing compression. What are you seeing in the pricing environment? And where are you seeing pressure specifically? And is that more of a function of kind of the softer discretionary spending backdrop? Or is it more structural from AI or the shift to outcome-based pricing?

François Boulanger

Executives
#43

But yes, for sure, clients are asking more and more on outcome-based pricing, already us, and I did state in the past, we're more than 60% [indiscernible] yes. we have -- they are also -- the majority of our business is outcome-based pricing. So that's naturally -- we're different and these very large Indian firms where there are input-based pricing. So that's helping on our side. And you see still good growth in the quarter. in India and Asia Pac, a lot of demand still for Asia Pac. And I don't see that demand to reduce in the future. So that's -- and that's where we have also a lot of talent. So that's why we are happy with where our position of our [indiscernible] region, and we are seeing that as a growth lever for the future.

Operator

Operator
#44

Our next question is from Stephanie Price at CIBC.

Stephanie Price

Analysts
#45

Follow-up for me just as on the Canadian region. Curious if you could talk a little bit about the environment there. Is Canada one of the regions where you're seeing a solid government pipeline just given the push to buy Canadian and how should investors think about potential upside in Canada?

François Boulanger

Executives
#46

Thanks, Stephanie. For Canada, we are seeing a very good pipeline for government. I think it's just they need to produce these RFP and going to the market, but we have good discussion with clients on the government side and they want and they need to invest An example on the defense side. And we have very good defense capabilities across the world, as you know, in the U.S., but also in Europe with NATO. NATO is a good kind of ours. And in U.K., we have a lot of defense projects there. So and the fact that Canada wants to be closer to Europe, we see that as great opportunities for us to help them to achieve their objectives.

Operator

Operator
#47

Next question will be from Richard Tse at National Bank.

Richard Tse

Analysts
#48

You did have this nice rebound in terms of the U.S. federal bookings. [indiscernible].

François Boulanger

Executives
#49

As we know, last year, a lot of slowdown in the procurement in general. And so a lot of agency put their projects on the side and waiting a bit how it would resolved with those and everything else that was happening. And so now it's a little bit -- we're not saying to normal, but at least procurement is now going out with RFPs. And so that's helping to improve the pipeline and naturally the bookings. Like I said, it's now close to 2 years that we didn't have the booking of that level in the Federal government. So -- and we are seeing RFPs going out, continue to go out. So that's why I'm saying on the Federal side. And some agencies are even hiring now. So I think it's -- we will see that continue in the future. And that's why we're positive on the Federal side.

Richard Tse

Analysts
#50

Okay. And I just had 1 other question. Like recently, you had kind of a local sort of, call it, AI data sort of so and win locally. Do you think CGI is in a position to kind of compete globally in that sort of sovereign AI data market, looking ahead here as more and more countries and regions look to that?

François Boulanger

Executives
#51

For sure. And again, when you're talking, especially in Europe, everybody is talking about sovereignty. Again, it's not saying bring everything back but naturally, they're looking at their data and the most important data, that's where they're saying, perhaps I need to change a bit where we are with that and coming more with a sovereign solutions. And the fact that we are in each of these regions, the fact that we know these clients [indiscernible] and having some of the solutions running in their environment. instead of having it in the public cloud.

Operator

Operator
#52

[Operator Instructions] Our last question is from Dave Kwan at TD Cowen.

Unknown Executive

Executives
#53

Just wondering if you've had conversations with clients and kind of what they're thinking about as it relates to the run conflict and how that's impacting their business and their intentions on doing more business with you?

François Boulanger

Executives
#54

For sure, Iran, it's giving some pressure on the manufacturing side. It's putting pressure some in the airlines side. it's putting pressure also a bit even on the supply chain for hardware, for example, we are seeing some of that pressure and slowdown because of the hardware. So naturally, again, it's giving us the opportunity to see how we can help them on the cost reduction side, especially on the manufacturing side and even on the airline side because it's putting pressure and they need to increase cost and increase price. So that's really the opportunity for us to go and see these clients and showing how we can help them in the cost reduction side.

Unknown Analyst

Analysts
#55

Are you seeing any slowdown in sales cycles?

François Boulanger

Executives
#56

Not for now. I would not say that I'm seeing a slowdown on the sales cycle because of it, no.

Operator

Operator
#57

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude your conference call for today. Once again, thank you for attending. At this time, we ask that you please disconnect your lines. Enjoy the rest of your day.

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