Dentalcorp Holdings Ltd. (DNTL) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 22, 2021

Toronto Stock Exchange CA Health Care Health Care Providers and Services conference_presentation 30 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Scott Fletcher

analyst
#1

Good morning, everyone. My name is Scott Fletcher, and I'm a research analyst that covers health care and health technology at CIBC. It's my pleasure to be with you here today for the CIBC Eastern Institutional Investor Conference being brought to you virtually. Our next presenting company this morning is dentalcorp, and joining us from the company is Graham Rosenberg, Founder and CEO. dentalcorp is Canada's largest network of dental practices with over 430 practices and locations across the country. dentalcorp joined the public markets in May, raising $950 million and was the largest health care IPO on the TSX. Today's presentation is structured as a fireside chat, and we'd like to encourage you to submit questions throughout the presentation. [Operator Instructions] Good morning, Graham. Thanks for joining us.

Graham Rosenberg

executive
#2

Good morning. Thank you for having me. Pleasure to be here.

Scott Fletcher

analyst
#3

So to start our conversation off, I thought it might be helpful for people that are newer to the story, if you could maybe give us an overview of the business and what specifically makes the dentalcorp approach so successful.

Graham Rosenberg

executive
#4

Absolutely. Thank you. So great being here again. I just started dentalcorp 10 years ago with the vision to revolutionize the business of dentistry in Canada, and we've evolved into a real health care company since then, with an ambition to be Canada's most trusted health care network. 10 years ago, set out to really align our interest with dentists that we were acquiring and partnering with, supporting their growth ambitions and supporting them with all the things that they weren't particularly good at nor particularly desirous of continuing to do in their careers. And so on that premise built a business that today is $1.1 billion approximately of pro forma revenue and about $206 million of EBITDA, as you said, 430 locations across the country. And what really differentiated us is our acquisition program via which we've steadily, year in and year out, acquired between $35 million and $40 million a year of EBITDA. The significant corporate infrastructure that we've created over the last 10 years and with significant investments over the last 3 years, which will allow us to double or even triple from here on in. Our infrastructure includes finance people, operations people, technology people, marketing people, people managing the talent cycle, everything from recruiting, training and development, and day-to-day HR management for our 7,000 people and 430 locations across the country. Our acquisition model has consistently driven strong returns on invested capital. It's a model that's built around a strong alignment of interest with our dentists that we acquire. When we acquired a practice, generally, roughly $2 million plus of revenues, about $450,000 to $500,000 of EBITDA. At least 2 dentists that we can manage succession risk in case somebody -- one of our partners has issues or stops the proverbial bus. We signed people up to a 5-year contract. We align them by giving them at least anywhere between 15% and 20% in dentalcorp equity to align the interest at the dentalcorp level. And they've been wonderful ambassadors of our business, supporting our business development agenda, lots of collaboration with best practices both clinically and operationally across the network. And then at the practice level, the folks we acquire have a profit sharing to the upside. They generally accrue 20% of the upside in the EBITDA performance of which we acquire the practices on an annual basis. But we also have some downside protection as well. So the first 10% of the downside is the responsibility of the dentist. And so we believe that it's that alignment of interest, our execution over the last 10 years, which we believe has been second to none, that has put us in a dominant position in the Canadian dental market. Again, 430-plus locations, we own about 3% of the market. We're twice the size of the next 2 largest players combined. We've been in business 10 years, they've been in business about 35 years. And we see a wonderful opportunity to continue to drive 15%-plus returns on our invested capital, 3% to 4.5% plus organic growth and continue to grow at double digits for the long term in a market that's only 5% penetrated compared to our U.S. counterpart, which is around 20% consolidated. So those are the headlines on the business.

Scott Fletcher

analyst
#5

Yes, that's a really helpful overview. Thanks. So next, I want to dig into what maybe a typical dentalcorp practice looks like. Is there a location, a practice size, a patient demographic that makes a practice more attractive for an acquisition?

Graham Rosenberg

executive
#6

Yes, absolutely. So as listed today, just headline, we basically are located within 75% of the Canadian population within 15 to 20 kilometers of any one of our stores. So we typically look for areas where when we're making acquisitions, we're really focusing on talent. If talent turns over, can we go out and acquire the best talent in the industry, everything from associate dentists working on the practice, hygienist, dental assistants and so on. Talent is always a challenge in businesses that are driven by people. We think we have a better mouse trap and a better employee value proposition, but we're not going to go buy practices in areas where it's difficult to attract the best talent in the industry. That's the first [ provisor ]. Our second [ provisor ] is reputation of the dentists that we are acquiring, and their practice, we do a lot of work around that. And then when you looked at the numbers, every general practice has about $2 million to $2.5 million of revenue, and for average location, $450,000 to $500,000 of EBITDA, so 22% to 24% margins at the EBITDA level. We make sure that when we acquire them, they have all the technology in place to continue to deliver on the value-add services that we can provide both clinically and in terms of back office. And typical practice has about 20 people working in it, so usually 2 to 4 dentists, 3 to 4 hygienists, some dental assistants obviously support the dentists, practice managers and then a bunch of administrative staff. So that's the headline. Low CapEx in the business, probably about $30,000 per clinic on a maintenance CapEx basis, so really high free cash flow to the equity when we acquire and continue to run these businesses.

Scott Fletcher

analyst
#7

All right. That's another great overview. So obviously, you had -- you have this large network of now over 430 practices. Can you speak a little bit to how scale has become an advantage when it comes to both optimizing talent and for patient flow?

Graham Rosenberg

executive
#8

Yes, definitely. So scale has allowed us to make the appropriate investments in both the patient journey, both in terms of their patient experience inside the clinic as well as our clinical agenda. So our scale has also allowed us to drive better margins through significant purchasing efficiencies and some labor efficiencies at the practice level as well. And then finally, our employee value proposition has really been fine-tuned over the last 10 years. Obviously, the market for talent, especially now through the COVID period and the post COVID period is challenging. We believe that our employee value proposition and our scale vis-a-vis training and the whole talent management agenda has put us in a position where we can outperform our competition. And our competition is the dentists across the street from our 430 locations. So our dentists across the street have a $50 million a year corporate infrastructure. That's what we've invested in, we'll continue to invest in on an annual basis, so there's a lot of scalability there when we talk about margin expansion. But that's the benefit that a dentist has. Every dentist has a cloud of our 200-plus people at our corporate offices, our technology stack and our purchasing and scale efficiencies brought to bear on their individual location. And their competition is dentists in 5- to 10-kilometer radius. On the talent side, we invest a lot in training and development. We have our institute called DC Institute, and that has proven to be a real value add in particular on the provider side. Dentists and hygienists, training them, optimizing their skills to provide more value-add services to patients. On the patient side, we've created and we really invested a lot of time during the COVID period. During COVID, we were shut down. We were basically running at about 5% of 2019 revenues in the midst of the depths of the pandemic. We made a decision to take the time to invest heavily in technology, really digitize the patient journey, and we've done exactly that. So we've created a portal in that patient acquisition portal called hellodent. It allows us to acquire patients digitally, and it is new to the Canadian dental market, and we started -- we're getting some real traction out of that 2,500 to 3,000 bookings a month. You can go online, search for dentists near you, hellodent pops up, click through straight to the practice and book your appointment. We're also from a patient perspective able to, with our scale and also for people as well, we keep people in the network and create this network effect. And so when you look at our revenues, 87% of our revenues repeat every year. But the 17% that doesn't is primarily because those patients have moved somewhere. As an individual practitioner, your patients move, either they move out of city or to a different part of city or out of province, they're gone. For us, with our reach, and I spoke earlier about our 75% reach of 2 Canadians within -- say, we reach 75% of Canadians within 10- to 20-kilometers of any one of our clinics. And we have an ability of leveraging data, leveraging digital, including hellodent to recapture those patients inside network and mitigate our attrition. So not only do we drive more patients top of funnel through our marketing teams and our marketing programs and our technologies, but we capture them bottom of funnel. And in that way, we're able to grow our patient base at a disproportionately higher rate, 1% to 2% a year, more than the individual practitioner can. And so that's the value of the network.

Scott Fletcher

analyst
#9

Okay. There's a lot of good facts to them. I'm probably going to come back to some of those as we go on. But first, I want to touch on something on something...

Graham Rosenberg

executive
#10

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Scott Fletcher

analyst
#11

We'll see. One of the items you touched on was margin expansion, post acquisition. I'm wondering if you can maybe give us sort of a -- maybe a little bit more detail on how you drive that margin expansion post practice acquisition.

Graham Rosenberg

executive
#12

Absolutely. So when we acquire a practice, that $2 million of revenues, keep the number simple and say $400,000, $500,000 -- $400,000 of EBITDA. We're able to expand those margins, which generally when we acquire a practice, around 22% to 23%, we're able to expand them by between 10% and 15% not of revenues but expand the margins. So call it 1% to 1.5%, which has a 5% to 10% to 15% accretion to EBITDA out of the gate in that first year of earning them. We'll do that primarily by driving cost efficiencies. We obviously have a national program with a bunch of larger distributors. We started to actually go manufacture direct as well, looking at private label for everything that goes into delivering a patient visit. So everything from gloves, bibs, amalgams, things that go into patient's mouth, that are used for every visit. We call them consumables. Generally we warrant an average practice about 7% to 7.5% of revenues from when we acquire them. We were able to reduce those down to around 5%, 5.5%. So significant uptick there on the purchasing side of things. And then leveraging technology. We have a lot of technology automation that leverages algorithms, that drives the patient recall and then patient engagement. So it relieves the front office people at a practice to do other things to add value to the business. And so we see some labor efficiencies as well after about 6 to 12 months. And then after that, practices come on to our organic growth programs, where we drive that 3% to 4.5% uplift beyond that. So out of the gate, I'd say 5% to 15%, closer to 10% to 15% EBITDA expansion through margin expansion because of cost efficiencies and some labor efficiencies as well.

Scott Fletcher

analyst
#13

Great. And now on the flip side -- or on the top of the income statement, you mentioned an organic growth program post acquisition. So I think that there's some really interesting initiatives that the company tracks to there, so if you could maybe dig into that as well it would be really helpful.

Graham Rosenberg

executive
#14

Yes, definitely. And our scale has supported an organic growth agenda that continues to increase in -- it is called size of pie, certainly over the last 18 to 24 months. So historically, we've driven around 3% to 3.5% organic growth on the top line, which obviously drops through to the EBITDA level. 3% to 3.5% organic growth in an industry that's otherwise very steady and has grown through recessions and demonstrated resiliency year in and year out for the last 30-plus years. That growth, that base level of growth comes from around 1.5% to 2% price increases every year and around 1.5% to 2% of volume increases every year. How do we drive volume? We drive volume by marketing to patients, capturing more patients top of funnel, retaining in bottom of funnel, which I spoke about earlier. That network effect, how do we capture those movers and the majority of our patients moving? And also increasing the customer service because some patients, because they're not having a great experience, and so we work on that. But there's another area that we've opened up as well, and it's been technology that has been a catalyst for this as well as the demand side of things. And what I'm talking about at the moment is orthodontics. Typically, until about 24 months ago or 18, 24 months ago, if you went to a dentalcorp practice, about 95% plus of our practices or our general practitioner practices, they would send you -- if you need orthodontics treatment, for example, they'd send you to an orthodontist. Clearer line of therapies has been a major advent in dental technology over the last 10 years. You probably -- many of you have probably heard of Invisalign. More and more adults looking to advance their aesthetics, improve their smiles, clear up some malocclusion in their teeth, so crooked teeth and so on, and jaws that are out of sync, and are turning to Invisalign. And so about 18 months ago, we began in earnest to invest in the technologies in every one of our 430 clinics to allow our general practitioners to do that kind of work on the basis that, look, yes, the outcome is going to be more money, but your patients are looking for a one-stop shop. Patients are increasingly sophisticated and, obviously, that headline demand equation that I spoke about. So we made the investments. We've invested significantly in training of about 160 of our practices so far. We think we'll have the remaining -- the remainder of the 430 done by the end of, I'd say, 12 to 24 months out. And we've seen a $30 million uptick in revenues just from those 160 clinics. We think that can be closer to $50 million to $60 million, and then when you attribute that to the rest of the network, we're looking at $100 million to $150 million plus opportunity in orthodontic insourcing across the network over the next 24 to 36 months. And we see that as a wonderful opportunity to augment our organic growth, which, again, was steady around 3% to 3.5% to around the 4.5-plus percent range going forward. Implants is another area we focus on. Aging population losing their dentition. They want a permanent solution, they don't want dentures. Implants is opportunity for that, and that's the next area that we'll begin to focus on next year and while we continue to complete the orthodontic training and insourcing.

Scott Fletcher

analyst
#15

Great. So you mentioned in one of your earlier comments the impact that COVID has had on the business. And obviously, as an essential health care business, you have -- that's something that directly impacts you. Can you maybe give us an idea of what the initial impacts that were in sort of 2020 and how the business has come back from that and maybe even what you're seeing now with this sort of fourth wave that we're experiencing in Canada?

Graham Rosenberg

executive
#16

Yes. Definitely, you had to bring it up. So everyone knows what went down middle of last March, March 2020. Because of regulatory and other restrictions, both provincial restrictions on the flow of traffic and the flow of people, lockdowns, exacerbated by regulatory restrictions, which are imposed upon us. We went down to about 5% of 2019 revenues. Very difficult time for the business. But when we spoke a little bit about the people agenda earlier on, we kept paying our people even before [ sues ] became a thing, and took care of our folks during that time and really hunkered down and, as I said earlier, advance the business technologically and [ aimed for ] some other strategic initiatives as opposed to just putting our heads down and doing nothing. And we really were seen as a leader in the industry, and it's really come back to support our business in many ways including on our M&A agenda, which we can talk about later. So during COVID, that's where we're at. We rebounded really nicely. Once provincial restrictions were lifted, regulatory restrictions actually still remain in place. We have about a 10% restriction on our hygiene business, capacity restriction with fallow times, so that's the time between patients having been increased. And so that has an overall about 3.5% to 4% effect on the business that continues to persist. But nonetheless, we saw a really, really nice uptick through the September to December period. We're tracking above 2019 levels, a lot of pent-up demand, certainly at or above in and around 2019 levels. Q1 saw that continue, Q2 -- and we'll continue to this year exceed 2019 levels of revenue, all else being equal, even accounting for acquisitions, which we think is a wonderful recovery from what was a very difficult time. But we still continue to face the challenges. And really, again, transitory class rings in terms of 3 things vis-a-vis COVID. One is the regulatory restrictions, which have a 10% impact on our hygiene business, which is a highly recurring business, which informs dentistry down the road. We're seeing about 10% restrictions there. Hygiene is about 35% of our business, so 3.5% of total revenue impact of capacity constraints, trying to come up with ways to bring more patients in, opening more days and so on. Second thing is we're obviously sitting in the middle of a fourth wave. People are a lot more cautious in terms of sticking around in close quarters, downtown cores, even like Toronto, are still pretty empty. But we think, again, this is all temporary. It will come back just like cities and the big cities in the U.S. have. And then the third thing is, people are a little bit out after 12 to 18 months of real slugging and very challenging environments. And so we're just working with our talent teams to make sure that our people are -- remain strong and remain in place and are appropriately handled.

Scott Fletcher

analyst
#17

Great. So now as you alluded to there, I want to talk about M&A, and I want to talk about -- I want to start the conversation off sort of at the top of the funnel and get an idea about how your team sources potential acquisitions and sort of spans that network or practices is across Canada.

Graham Rosenberg

executive
#18

Yes. So we've invested heavily, obviously, in our M&A agenda. We're a large acquirer. We're a very active acquirer of dental practices. If you stack us up against -- in North America, we're right up there in terms of health care consolidation in terms of our activity. We have a business development team from coast to coast. And my philosophy has always been I don't want to buy somebody for sale. We built partnerships with the dentists that -- practices that we acquire. Average dentist is late 40s, early 50s when we acquire them. They're still in their prime earning years. And we made a decision about 4 years ago to really invest in relationships from the ground up as opposed to trying to get deals done on an ad hoc basis. And so we've built out a business development team that spans the country. They're in every province, sometimes, oftentimes doubled up in provinces and larger provinces. We have anywhere from 10 to 14 business development people in place at any one time. And they are tasked with building those relationships from the bottom up. We also invested a lot back into the industry in terms of conferences. We obviously attend conferences. We do all the things that you would expect us to do to really build relationships from the ground up and get those dentists into our network when they're ready. And that has lifted our M&A pipeline to -- going into COVID, we're running at about $45 million of acquired EBITDA. Obviously, the pipeline was impacted by COVID, but we've seen a really nice resilience in that pipeline, pretty much close to pre-COVID levels. So we feel really good about our M&A agenda. And it's because of those relationships, because we've really continued to invest in those relationships. During COVID, we really stepped up beyond what the associations and regulators were doing for dentists across the country and said, "Look, we have, for all of you -- we invested in programs. How do you deal with the new protocols and the new regimes around PPE, around fallow times." We had health care experts from around the country present on conferences and things that we put together. And really, we're seen as a thought leader. And all those things cumulatively have positioned us as the partner of choice for leading dentists across the country, everything from relationships to the things that we provide them, to the leadership that we've provided to this industry over the last 10 years. And as I said, we've seen a really nice bounce back to pretty close to pre-2019 levels -- or pre-COVID levels, should I say.

Scott Fletcher

analyst
#19

So could you maybe explain on -- you sort of -- you mentioned it a little bit but touch maybe a little deeper on why a selling dentist would look to dentalcorp as an acquirer, as a partner? And sort of what do you -- what you offer to those selling dentists to make it an attractive acquisition?

Graham Rosenberg

executive
#20

Right. So the headline themes are that dentists went to dental school to become dentist, not to become -- not to run a business. And many dentists are -- end up running a business. They end up getting dental scope, they hang up the shingle. They build the business doing $2 million, $2.5 million of revenue. They're running 20 people. And they reach a point in their careers where they say, "Look, I just want to be an earner, and I don't want to deal with all the headaches of the day to day administration. I don't want to deal with talent," which is obviously very challenging both inside the business and in terms of acquiring talent, "I don't want to invest in training. I don't want to do any of those things. I don't want to do accounting," all that good stuff. And so they see us as an opportunity to really unshackle them in a way and say, "I'm going to continue to focus on my patients to do the things that I love doing. You guys take care of the rest." And the business has become increasingly challenging. There's some tailwinds really driving consolidation, increased regulatory -- increased regulations around the business, increased required investments in technology, managing talents, just complexities of running a business. They just don't want to deal with anymore, and that's what's driving consolidation in the industry and driving these folks to us to seek us out as a partner. And I think our execution and our delivery on our promises over the last 10 years since we started the business has really, again, positioned us as the partner of choice to these leading dentists across the country.

Scott Fletcher

analyst
#21

Great. And when you're looking at M&A in a given time period, do you focus on the number of practice acquisitions? Or is it more of an EBITDA focus in terms of the amount of EBITDA you can bring into the network?

Graham Rosenberg

executive
#22

Look, when we give our business development teams their targets for the year, it's usually a number of deals, which translates into a number of practices. Oftentimes, one deal could have multiple practices. We're looking at -- there's many -- this called mid-market players with 10 to 20 to 30 locations, that we're consistently talking to, and we picked a bunch of those off historically, and we'll continue to do so. But for the most part, it's a you got to get X number of deals done, which translates to practices, which translates to EBITDA. But at a top level, top down, me and my senior team look at acquired EBITDA. We've -- we believe that we can acquire $35 million to $40 million plus a year like we've done historically. Some years will be better than that. Worse case, probably around $35 million a year.

Scott Fletcher

analyst
#23

Okay. That's definitely helpful. So moving on from the M&A discussion, just one thing I wanted to touch on before our time here ends, and that was the recently announced partnership between TeleDent and Loblaw, and I think that it's certainly a very interesting headline. I'd love to hear some more details on it and how it -- you expect it to help the business.

Graham Rosenberg

executive
#24

So Loblaw has actually sought us out because they were looking for some -- for a dental network or a variety of dental clinics to add to their PC Health app and their PC Health community. And they sought us out because they've found in us a network of choice both for consumers, talent and dentists going forward, a grower in the industry. We're going to grow about 15% to 20% plus every year for the long term, and a player that has the scale, the technology investments that would play nicely into the PC health networks. So we stuck a partnership, I'd say, by the end of the year, early Q1. You'll be able to go onto PC Health and click through to hellodent, which is our patient acquisition portal and fine a dentist near you. And towards the end of next year, 2022, early 2023, it will just show up directly. You go onto PC Health, you'll see our clinics. hellodent will be in the background in that regard, although we'll continue to acquire patients outside of PC Health, obviously. And you'll be able to click through to one of our practices. Another thing that's really compelling is that PC Optimum points are one of the most sought after loyalty programs, certainly in Canada, probably in North America, when you measure customer feedback and satisfaction and so on. We will have an opportunity to use that in trying to reward our patients for good behaviors. I can't pay somebody to come to the dentist, but I can certainly reward them for good behaviors around their oral hygiene. And so there's a wonderful opportunity to continue to attract patients, retain patients in network and continue to drive our growth.

Scott Fletcher

analyst
#25

All right. I think, yes, I do think it's a very interesting opportunity. So with our last minute here, I want to give you maybe an opportunity to talk about one thing in your business that you're most excited for in the coming year, the thing that you think is you're working the hardest on or what you see as the most creating opportunity for dentalcorp in the next couple of months.

Graham Rosenberg

executive
#26

So there's a whole bunch of things, but our M&A agenda is really, really strong. We feel really good about that. We will continue to consolidate and, we believe, meet or exceed expectations. On the patient side, we were really excited about our marketing agenda. We're doing some really interesting things, including through our digital platforms, acquiring patients digitally and really getting consistently more intelligent about and knowledgeable about how to reduce our cost to acquire, which is around $70 a patient, and how to optimize that patient relationship. And then on the talent side, continuing to be a -- really establishing ourselves as an employer of choice in the industry and continue to attract the top talent in the industry, and it's really those 3 things that I'm really excited about. We have great leadership -- a great leadership team, a couple of announcements coming up soon, and we feel really good about the business going forward.

Scott Fletcher

analyst
#27

Great. Thanks, Graham. I appreciate your time and enjoy the rest of your day. Bye.

Graham Rosenberg

executive
#28

Thank you. Thank you. Wonderful. Bye.

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