Docebo Inc. (DCBO) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 7, 2026
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Operator
operatorThank you. Good morning everyone and welcome to the Just Evo's second quarter 2026 earnings call. All participants are currently in a listen-only mode. We will open the line for a question and answer session momentarily. Analysts can ask questions by pressing star one on their telephone keypad. And if you would like to withdraw your question, again, press star one. We ask that analysts please limit themselves to two questions and return to the queue for any follow-ups. Right now, I'd like to turn the call over to Dusty Bowes, Vice President of Investor Relations, Mike McCarthy. Please go ahead, Mike.
Michael McCarthy
executiveThank you, Krista. Earlier this morning, Docebo issued its Q2 2026 results. The press release, which included a link to management's prepared remarks in our quarterly investor slide deck, were all posted to our investor relations website. This morning's call will allow participants to ask questions about our results and the written commentary that management provided this morning. begin this morning's Q&A, though, Chabot would like to remind listeners that certain information discussed may be forward-looking in nature. Such forward-looking information reflects the company's current views with respect to future events. Any such information is subject to risks, uncertainties, and assumptions that could cause actual results to differ materially from those of in the forward-looking statements. For more information on the risks, uncertainties, and assumptions relating to forward-looking statements, please refer to Docebo's public findings, which are available on CDAR and EDGAR. During the call, we will reference certain non-IFRS financial measures. Although we believe these measures provide useful supplemental information about financial performance, they are not recognized measures and do not have standardized means under IFRS. Please see our MD&A for additional information regarding our non-IFRS financial measures, including reconciliations to the nearest IFRS measures. Please note that unless otherwise stated, all references to any financial figures are in U.S. dollars. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Dr. Chabot's CEO, Alessio Artufo, and our CFO, Brandon Farmer. Christine, you can open up the line.
Operator
operatorIf you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. Your first question comes from Robert Young with Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.
Unknown Speaker
unknownThanks, good morning. First place, I'm sure there's lots of questions on this forward deployed engineer model, so place I'd like to start. going to work alongside the existing professional services motion what's the impact you anticipate on revenue and margins both gross and EBITDA and then I think you said that you're hiring FDEs and so where are you in the process of building out that FD motion?.
Alessio Artuffo
executiveGood morning, Rob. So you are correct. We are starting with hiring a foundational SD that is intended so that we can build the playbook before we scale that practice further. way we think is fairly straightforward. We think that on top of our upcoming release GA of Agent Hub and Enterprise Knowledge, both planned in the early fall. we are going to build custom agents workloads that aim to solve for vertical use cases, right? very specific needs that our top customers to begin with have. Think about solving for specific operational challenges across QSR, healthcare, financial services. We know that these organizations have a data challenge. Everyone has an integration challenge. Everyone has a data discoverability and the limited challenge. And we are going to have these, these, our FDEs help with creating these custom workflows on top of our technology. Now, how does this compound? How does this create greater value? Our plan is to abstract these agents at a greater product level and make those agents available more broadly to a broader audience. In terms of monetization, look, we are going, live with Agent Hub and Knowledge Enterprise in the fall and we'll update you after that time.
Unknown Speaker
unknownOkay, that's all very helpful. I mean, where is this going to fall inside of the income statement on the cost side? Is it going to be something bundled in? Is it going to impact your gross margins or is it something that's going to be part of your sales motion? I'm trying to understand where it'll impact the margin structure.
Unknown Speaker
unknownRob, when we start to hire them, it's going to be before the product is released. At the start it will be more of an R&D type cost. These are going to work with our top 10, top 20 customers. You know, as we think about scaling, charging professional services, this adding usage to our AI, whether that's through credits or fixed price, you know, that's where it flips to gross margin. So it really depends on, you know, when does it get released? When do we start monetizing? So it's either going to be.
Unknown Speaker
unknownbe an R&D or COGS cost. OK, and then second question, just on the confidence in the second half acceleration of ARR. Maybe we could talk about where that's specifically coming from, what gets you the most excited, and then if you could touch on seasonality for the FedRAMP government opportunity alongside that. That'd be helpful. And I'll pass the line. Thanks.
Alessio Artuffo
executiveYes, so let me talk a bit about the underlying ARR acceleration. This is the second quarter in a row where we have a re-acceleration and for sure we're super pleased with that. Rob, if you recall, in November of 2020, 2025 during a conference call, we are sure to 2026 as the year of the enterprise. And that's the view into 2026 and had a point of view that the initiatives we were taking on the product and as well as, you know, broadly execution we're headed in the direction where we thought that 2026, we're going to show the results of the work we were doing. When I impact that, I think it's a three vectors, there is overall execution. where we made investments across the board over the past several years. There was a story of product with the acquisition of 365 and the acquisition of Zive, both. And frankly, a re-acceleration of shipping features in our core product as well. It's not only a story of buying technologies. And then to characterize growth and reacceleration, I always like to kind of separate our partner motion because it is a subcategory of execution, but it truly has become important. The large majority of our enterprise pipeline, roughly 80%. has a partner involved in some fashion, whether it's a wholesale fashion, whether it's an implement fashion, and most times it's a hybrid of both. Shout out to partners like Deloitte and new partners like an IIT that are really embedded with our org and we work super well together. So that story of re-acceleration is, I would say, it hinges on several factors. It's broad-based, right? It's showing in that new, it's showing in expansion, it's showing international. And I like that very much because these multiple growth factors don't, you know, rely on just one segment doing all the work. And as far as the confidence for the future, you know, it's very high. We're extremely pleased with the growth of our pipeline. We look at our pipeline in terms of, you know, deals that are – significant in material in size about 500k and we think it's a really great time at the Chabot and yes. very very excited about the coming quarters now as far as federal pipeline and quarter three Look, we think about government more broadly than just federal. We think about government as a combination of our success in state, local as well as federal. And quarter three is a heavy federal quarter. But we don't disclose what's going to happen in the next quarter. We are just extremely pleased with the pipeline buildup and execution of our teams. Thanks for taking all the questions. Yes, thank you, Rob.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of Ryan McDonald with Needham & Company.
Unknown Speaker
unknownAll right, thanks for taking my questions. Congrats on a great quarter. Alessia, I wanted to ask about the investments and decided to move into healthcare here. Obviously, interesting, large opportunity, highly regulated industry. And I feel like there are some sort of correlations to federal government. And obviously we've had those investments over the last couple of years, and that's still sort of starting to generate a return or hit an inflection point. So can you just talk about sort of, you know, the decision to move into healthcare, you know, how you think about the timeline for the return on the investments you're going to make there and where you see a gap within healthcare organizations that you think Docebo can fill.
Alessio Artuffo
executiveYes, awesome. Brian, your premise in seeing some parallels with the investments that we made broadly into government, I think it's very astute. I agree with you. There are several parallels. First, let me ground us in the context of the healthcare market as we have studied. We see this as a roughly $3 billion TAM over a roughly $30 billion corporate learning market that we already operate in. We already have an important base of healthcare customers, call it roughly $10 million of ARR. And we've acquired the $10 million of ARR, notwithstanding certain gaps of knowledge and product that we are now much more educated about. And so I would say that similarly to what happened in the past with the state and local education market, we have operated opportunistically, but we have not been extremely focused and strategic in the way we've addressed this market. Now, as we are a much more mature company, as we have matured our GTM Engine, we believe that as an horizontal player, every opportunity we have to become more efficient in our GTM Engine and more efficient in the way we address customers needs and build products for targeted audiences, the better off we're going to be. We're going to be better in our success of adoption. we're going to be better in our win rates. And so it was a no brainer to start with healthcare because we believe the distance between where we are today capability wise and the optimal scenario is very much in reach and we don't have to do you know years of work to be in an optimal scenario to double our win rate i think we have you know months of work as opposed to years Now, healthcare is a broad definition. And depending on how you slice and dice the verticals, we already have a view that is a multi-year view after which we would talk life sciences. Life sciences carries along a bit more complexity in terms of classification. technical requirements which we are already partially addressing, but we're preparing ourselves over the next 12-24 months to go even deeper. What else can I tell you? I think this is a great market. We're already winning in it. I mentioned it. It's a motion where we're going to invest in products, we're going to invest in the partner ecosystem. We have partners that are really great in the healthcare industry and we work closely with them. And also, you know, when I mentioned the content network, healthcare is also a story of content, our technology being a tool such that you can now aggregate multiple content partners in and we can augment that part is going to be important for our healthcare customers. And listen, one further validation point, we know that in healthcare alone, there are organizations that are very sizable, frankly, in AI, they are comparable to the CHEBO in that range, all they do is healthcare, healthcare learning. And just that validates that if we approach this deeply and become more specialized, which I think is very much in reach, we have an additional.
Unknown Speaker
unknownshow a little better. So, very excited about it. Yes, super helpful context and color there. And then, you know, maybe as a follow-up. So, as we think about your sort of, let's call it the increasing sort of verticalization of the platform, you know, with specific verticals where you've seen some big opportunities, can you just talk about how you're seeing or viewing the balance of sort of the pipeline of opportunities for growth sort of within some of your, let's call it your core markets or sort of more to more horizontal applications versus moving more into vertically specific applications. Is, is the healthcare expansion being done with sort of a view of, of more of a, let's call it a shorter runway or limited opportunity within sort sort of broader enterprise? Or is this just based off of seeing some really nice early success, see a product market fit for the solution, and so naturally going after a new opportunity? Thanks.
Alessio Artuffo
executiveYes, you know, I think a bit the opposite of that. Again, we built the Chebo up to where it is today as a horizontal player with the exception government, which we started specializing in a while, we've always recognized that there is a greater benefit in the earlier stages of company as being a generalist. As you grow up as a business, you realize that the generalist categorization to become an impediment to healthy growth. And it shows in every function of the company. It shows also in the way we support the customers. I'm a big believer that in order to do a great job with customers, you need to understand their business deeply and you need to address And when you know you have just for a sheer example, somebody in a sales executive capacity that at 9 a.m. in the morning has a conversation with a manufacturer, you know, and at 11 a.m. with a security company and at 2 p.m. with a healthcare organization, they're going to request their needs deeply. Having that depth of knowledge of the business problems that each of these carry is incredibly hard to scale. And so I believe that it's incumbent upon us as we continue to mature to taking the most valuable verticals and creating emotion around it and the caveat there is, is there opportunity to also verticalize the product and create capabilities that go beyond the lingo and the jargon. And if there really is the combination of that product build alongside the knowledge creates an unstoppable force and an absolute differentiation in the market. So we don't see it as a need to find a new pocket. rather as a desire to win at a higher rate and be seen more as a leader in those verticals.
Operator
operatorThanks, Alyssa. Your next question comes from the line of Erin Kyle with CIBC.
Unknown Speaker
unknownGo ahead. Hi, good morning and thanks for taking the questions. Alessio, maybe a question for you on the skills side. You know, you've described it as a bit of a second door into new logos and a retention lever. So maybe in Q2, can you speak to how many enterprise deals were influenced by having that skills capability? And do you see it lifting your win rates versus a year ago? Yes.
Alessio Artuffo
executiveSure, thank you for the question. First, let me tell you, we are beyond pleased with the progress that we've made so far in the integration process. of 365 talents. It's like all integrations and acquisitions, there are always challenges and we don't shy away from those, but the results speak for themselves. We are six months in, frankly, and our five targets, we've blown that up. We are very pleased with seeing the pipeline growth, including the 365 in enterprise combined offering. While I can tell you exactly the percentage of deals in the tax rates, I don't know that that's something that we are necessarily the federal disclosing, we've mentioned a couple of wins that are very significant in this quarter. One being the world's largest telecom and networking, one of the world's largest telecom and networking companies and one being the world's largest supplier of automotive safety systems. And both of them, we would not have been at the table with them had we not offered the capabilities of 365. And to me that is, you know, more than in initial validation. I think it really validates what we originally thought. And when I look at our pipeline, there are many more of these coming up. The next step here is the job isn't done, to be clear. The job is far from being done. What we need to do and what we're doing is progressing at fast speed our product integration, so that the story of 1 plus 1 equals 3 becomes even more tangible, even in the product and not just in theory. And we are, you know, ahead of schedule in that regard. I'm very pleased with our integration here. And then additionally, I think the story wraps and comes with all together as we launch Agent Hub and we develop further our agentic efforts. Agents that reason around data and take into consideration skills in order to train people on what they want and need is the ultimate connection of all the points here. Again, I can't tell you how excited I am about 365 moving forward. work to do and on the standalone side we haven't even scratched the surface of the potential of this as a secondary product and that's what we hope to do in 2027 and beyond.
Unknown Speaker
unknownThanks, that's helpful, Keller. And then maybe just on the sales cycle side, we've seen some industry headlines recently about software sales cycles have begun to compress across most ACV buckets. Just wondering if Duchebo is seeing this at all across your enterprise customers?.
Unknown Speaker
unknownHey, Erin. We have not seen that type of today, if any Within NH1 we've seen sales cycles decrease in a number of segments. Now a lot of that is related to execution. You know, if you recall our mark, our new CRO came in roughly July of last year, came in, did some tweaks and changed some processes that were seen for that labor. But the commentary that you're referring to of other software companies seeing e-login sales cycles is not something we're seeing today.
Unknown Speaker
unknownSorry, Randall, just to clarify, we were actually seeing headlines that sales cycles were decreasing, not elongating. So good to see that. The shape of things.
Operator
operatorYes, correct. Yes. Your next question comes from the line of George Sutton with Craig Hallam. Please go ahead.
Unknown Speaker
unknownThank you. Alessio, you called out NIT. I'm curious if you could just give us a sense of the go-to-market with them. And is that one of the reasons why you're seeing the enterprise strength that you're seeing?.
Alessio Artuffo
executiveGeorge, for sure. You know, NIIT is a relatively new partner. I call them out in the context of our partner motion being a significant contributor to our ARR reacceleration. Kudos to the partners and to our partnership teams and broadly our GTMT partners. teams for for you know the way we're leveraging this partner motion. It's a lot of work and it's not just over the past few months and I wouldn't you know I wouldn't regard a single partner as part of this and I had used a relative new partner we're doing great work with them. They have a great penetration and. I would equally regard the partners that we worked with longer, like Deloitte, as a firm that is very aligned with the way we operate and we're very close with.
Unknown Speaker
unknownSo yes, that's all I have to say about that. So the topic of the week in AI, or certainly one of them has been around rogue agents. And I'm curious with your agent hub, how can you give confidence to customers that you've built proper guardrails in to protect them?.
Alessio Artuffo
executiveYes, yes. Look, first of all, our agent technology is something that we've been working on for a while. We have a very sophisticated team in our AI team that has been doing this for a long time, I trust. their knowledge and expertise and that's in this area are CTO and and I have a you know a very strong point of view on the value you know sits very much also in its reliability and safety and security so everything we're going to be building is going to have a strong point of view on on safeguards and guard rail standards and frankly George you know I think it's a it's a new territory And we're going to be working closely with our customers and their security officers to progress, you know, how we document this and how we give confidence to everyone that what we're building is, is, you know it will improve physically perfect thank you.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of Matthew VanVleet with Cantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead.
Unknown Speaker
unknownYes, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I guess as you look at expanding the product platform into healthcare and a couple other areas you talked about today, and then integrating 365. What is the view from here on future M&A.
Alessio Artuffo
executivea broader capital allocation strategy? I'll start and I don't know if Randall wants to then follow on the specifics for capital allocation, but I would say, in pure business terms. We have a... Executed two MNAs with 365 and enzymes. Different profile in terms of, you know, of costs and frankly, different profile in terms of product category and capabilities and whatnot. But that has given us the point of view that we have a lot of work to do to truly we benefit from what we have acquired. We're well ahead of integration schedule, the integration and the work that now we can do on top of these technologies and alongside these teams, it's very significant. As a result, we are just incredibly focused on integrating and extracting value and building for future capabilities. we remain opportunistic. We always look at the market. We don't disregard any opportunity, but M&A presently in terms of net new deals is not our primary focus. Brandon? On capital allocation, it's something we think about daily and as different variables change, our priorities change. Right now, we look at stock price and we believe it is undervalued. you know, based on the stock price today, we believe that that capital allocation is buying back shares. You know, that could change in a couple of weeks, could change in months, depending on how the share price does. You know, we think about interest rates, we think about opportunistic M&A. So it's a daily equation, and right now, as Alessio mentioned, M&A is not top priority, and when we look at the stock price, buyback shares is.
Unknown Speaker
unknownVery helpful. And then you mentioned the success of the partner community helping you grow here. How can we think about sort of the size and scale of that partner community? Are you trying to just maybe focus on going broader and deeper with the partners you have and developing those relationships? Or is there still build out of new partners to the ecosystem?.
Alessio Artuffo
executivethat you see on the roadmap? There's a great deal of opportunity because, you know, the award that partner has in our mind different connotations. You have different categories of partners, different specialties, different virtualizations, different market positions. Think about company partners that are a very important part of our business. partner with several great companies in that area and it will be plausible that we will increase the portfolio even more in the future. System integrators are the ones that we tend to think immediately more of in enterprise But there is different degrees of system integrators. Some are regional, some are more global, some are very much specialized around certain verticals and sectors. For example, we work closely with a partner called P1, a great firm that has a great deal of expertise in healthcare sector. And it's important to have a broad-based, varied strategy around partners. So our job, frankly, is to become crisper and crisper and more clear as to how to couple partners in the areas where we want to win and continue to execute our GDM together. There's also partnerships that are more... product attached partnerships. I can think of marketplaces initiatives like AWS, where it's less of a commercial first motion, but it's the ability to attach onto big commercial engines like the Amazon AWS one to enable customers to buy using credits, we've had a lot of deals and customers that have preferred that buying modality as opposed to a direct buying modality. And all these avenues of buying, the way we think about it is how can we reduce the risk and the... friction of purchasing for the customer. Great, thank you.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of John Xiao with TD Cowan. Please go ahead.
Unknown Speaker
unknownThanks for taking my question. Maybe one more question on the healthcare vertical. Could you compare the healthcare opportunity today to where government was when you first began investing in FAT grant and what kind of milestones should investors expect over 12 to 18 months to gauge the success? Great question. So,.
Alessio Artuffo
executiveThe first, the first milestones are going to be, you know. Setting up the team for success. We are going to be staffing. And organization across product and GM. To. to really conquer this new vertical, while we continue by the way in parallel to win the vertical, it's a bit like a more sophisticated plane while we fly a radio plane. So once we have the team in seat, which is we're working on actively, Then comes the development of, you know, it's the org-radiates. It's the development of ROM books. It's the development of specific vertical problem roadmap that allows us to have the confidence that we're executing towards something tangible that then leads to improve doing rates that it leads to customer satisfaction in general and and that you know will occur over the next few quarters. I guess differently from federal okay in this category I want to emphasize is that you know we're already winning significant customers in healthcare right now and some of these requirements at times become more stringent and at times are a little looser and it's not that federal is either you have FedRAMP or you don't have FedRAMP. With healthcare, it's our ability to increase our right to win is going to be dependent upon how fast we execute on the people and product vectors. That's as simple as that. And so the faster we do all of that, the faster we're going to increase our share of wallet in that industry.
Unknown Speaker
unknownGot it. And on FTE, I know it's still relatively early, but could you maybe talk about the revenue opportunity? Is it recurring or one-time, and maybe the margin profile?.
Alessio Artuffo
executiveI'm hesitant to share details that have not been fully ironed out yet. I described the FD opportunity on a principle basis because we believe in this AI era. customers are more and more in need of working with true builders. And that's what we're prepared to do. We want to really enter in organizations and not just onboard them and let them do the work. We want to do the work with them and them towards their own personalized outcomes. How does this translate in a recurring model and the marginal idea that it's something that of course we're thinking about deeply and we believe we have good constructs, but it's perhaps premature to sharing this call and I feel more comfortable that we're going to have a more polished point of view as we talk about this. November post our agent release, which is going to be the fall. That's great, thank you.
Operator
operatorThank you. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. Your next question comes from the line of Ken Wong with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.
Unknown Speaker
unknownFantastic. Thanks for taking my question. Brandon, I wanted to circle up on the guidance a little bit. You guys have a second straight quarter of accelerating underlying ARR. Just want to get a sense for what level of prudence is baked into the guidance. Have you guys changed your philosophy in terms of handicapping?.
Unknown Speaker
unknownsome of the big deal pipeline and any color there would be helpful. Yes, maybe let's just take a step back and look at the actual revenue increase. So we raised our guidance by three and a half million dollars relative to last quarter. You know, transparently, 1.6 of that was from our Q2 needs and 2.1 of that is the flow through to H2. And then even within that 2.1, You have 1.2 of that being professional services and closer to 900 K of subs. So, you know, what's really driving that increase? What assumptions are we changing? we go through our different segments, mid-market, our assumptions are pretty much flat. We've seen consistent performance, the team is still performing great, there's no changes. Governments, we already had strong expectations built into our guidance, so we knew we were going to execute Q2 we had a record flat quarter Q2. Q3 we do expect a solid FedRAMP quarter and that was always baked into our commitment. So what changed? It's really enterprise. You know, we came into 2026. I talked about it in February where we assumed roughly, you know, flat enterprise growth, which was conservative. You know, we saw two quarters of big performance, strong wind rates, good pipeline, and that's given us the confidence to increase our enterprise assumptions in each two. And that's really what's driving the incremental revenue guide.
Unknown Speaker
unknownFantastic. And then the other half of the guidance, you guys kept EBITDA unchanged. I think you called out healthcare as an investment that you guys are making in the back half. How should we think about the run rate of that investment? Is this just a small start that ramps up? as something that we should expect to carry into 27?.
Unknown Speaker
unknownIt's going to be a relatively small pod for H2. The expenses will certainly continue to grow. It's 2027, but how we're thinking about it is that H2 is more heavy on R&D investments. So when I think about our spend patterns, like sell to marketing, we know it's going to be downside. sequentially in Q3. A lot of that is event related spend that happens in Q2 and Q1. R&D will scale up throughout the year. So from Q2, Q3 to Q4, we're going to see R&D scale up and G&A is going to remain relatively flat. The constitution team is going to be, own pod of engineering team with a specific product manager that's specialized in healthcare. And then we're going to scale up a sales team with a leader that's specific to healthcare and their own sellers of, you know, We're going to start off small with a team of three, which is exactly what we did in government. So we're really following the exact playbook of Spent and what we did in government.
Operator
operatorAll right, fantastic. Thank you for the call. Your next question comes from the line of Gavin Fairweather with ATB Cormark, please.
Unknown Speaker
unknownGo ahead. Oh, hey, good morning, and thanks for taking my questions. Maybe just on internal use cases, I'm curious to what extent 365 talents near AI releases are helping carve out a bit more differentiation in a competitive space and if you've seen any movement in your win rate as a result.
Alessio Artuffo
executiveYou're correct, Gavin. 365 talents. is giving us a stronger posture in internal use cases where the topic of SBO or skills-based organization, upskilling and reskilling are critical topics. Frankly, we had a light response prior to 365 Talents in that context. And that becomes particularly true in the enterprise and strategic enterprise segments. Your observation therefore, that 365 impacts our ability to win at larger scale in terms use cases where our capabilities were lighter in the past is correct and you when I think about our agentic capabilities, I believe this becomes even more true in the upcoming months. And so we're seeing, a very positive return from the 365 side.
Unknown Speaker
unknownrelative to this. Great, very helpful. And then just secondly, on the enterprise motion, it's been about a year, maybe a little bit more than from the leadership changes, you know, two very good quarters in a row. When you look at the sales team productivity, would you say that you've now kind of hit your strider or are you seeing still potential improvement in that motion given sales cycle?.
Alessio Artuffo
executiveNo, first of all, it's a good opportunity to give kudos to our great management team, led by our CRO and our CMO and our ADPO partnerships. These guys have been working super hard and their teams on the enterprise side. even our mid-market function international, because it's not only a story of one segment, as I said earlier, it's a broad day success. They've been doing really good. As far as whether, you know, we reached a, we reached the max of what we can do. I believe there's a lot of runway ahead of us. That's both in terms of the single unit productivity per seller. So you know, we need to increase quotas given the amount of products that we we are. you know, delivering to sales, validated by customers and upcoming products. That's just something that we would likely do. But also, you know, there's the. Having access to two gigabits like enterprise knowledge and 365 opens up a new. you know, in new territories in terms of not only companies, buyers, but also buyer personas that we're going to be able to sell into. We're going to get closer, much closer to the CIO office. We're going to get much closer to the chief people office as a result of these product thinking of the ATMs. And so I think we're starting to scratch the surface about this can look like over the next three years. And for that, I'm really excited.
Operator
operatorThanks so much for the first one. Your next question comes from the line of Suhan Sukumar. Kumar with Stifel, please go ahead. Good morning guys.
Unknown Speaker
unknownThe first question I wanted to touch on, the ARR reacceleration of RAGE-2. And obviously there's some benefits there for the day force and AWS headwinds tapering off this year, allowing the strong underlying growth to show. What is giving you guys that visibility from a net new AR perspective? And how much is that growth is coming from expansion versus net new?.
Unknown Speaker
unknownIt's a good question. So, you know, as we know, we are starting to lapse some of the quarters that make it easier for us to reaccelerate on the top line. So, you know, just as a reminder, AWS shared each year for last year, the $4 million and we have, we have the force, which the period disclosed has essentially gone from 19 and a half to 6.5 mil in the current quarter. So we're lapsing in let's call it 19 million dollars of fluids over the next four quarters. What's given us that confidence is really what I talked about before, where we're seeing strength across our end markets, whether we're talking about mid markets. Gov, if you think about last Q3, we essentially won FedRAMP, I think it was three to four prior to this September 30th close. So we didn't have much of an opportunity to play in the FedRAMP space. This is really what we consider our first Q3 with significant pipe and the ability to win in FedRAMP. So we have the FedRAMP opportunity. Enterprise, you know, there's no doubt about it, Again, this year we are growing this season. We're seeing strong performance, good pipeline, And when you just add everything together, it's pretty easy to see how it can reaccelerate on the top line. Okay, good. Thank you for that caller.
Unknown Speaker
unknownFor my second question, I want to touch on more from a balance sheet, capital allocation perspective. You guys appear to be in an investment mode, given the new FD model, the healthcare vertical ramp. And I think, and I have to think strategic acquisitions may still be part of the overall strategy. What is the leveraging path here to get you to a more flexible balance sheet? And can you remind us on what your capital allocation priorities are?.
Unknown Speaker
unknownThank you. So if you look at the numbers today, and I'm just going to use some clean round numbers to make it a little bit easier. So we have $45 million in cash. We have about $90 million of debt, so let's call it 45 net debt on our annual EBITDA guide You know, as we know, we've announced an SID for Spur-Ed that $70 million funded by $16 million in debt and $10 in cash that would take us from 90 in debt to 150. Now, at the same time, it's a bit of a nuanced question because we don't know how many shares will get tendered in the SFV. If we look at today and you think about a rational investor, our current stock price is relatively low relatively close or slightly above our SID price, so that would suggest we're going to have fairly different frankly, no shares tendered in our SIP. That's just kind of, you know, the rational assumption to make as of today. But we need to always never say never, so we need to think about the maximum potential. You know, we do think at the moment, as Alessio mentioned, We are looking at opportunity. Yes, I can't looking, you know, while Docebo made two acquisitions in H1, we don't believe that that's the norm. You know, we are very much an organic growth shop that's in our DNA and that will always be part of our DNA. You know, will we continue to other opportunities such as 365 that are easier bolt-ons that improve our sales and marketing efficiency because it's an easy add-on. We will look at that, but we just don't see anything in the next 12 months. think about 12 months of runway or a strong fee for cash flow generation, we do think we have the capacity to look at maybe increasing that capacity, paying down debt. or building up cash through free cash flow generation. On your second question, new logo versus expansion, we are typically 65 new logo, 35 expansion, and we've seen that formula relatively similar in Q2. In Q1, it was a little more heavily shifted towards expansion We had a couple of large expansions, but we're generally in that 65-35 range.
Unknown Speaker
unknownOkay, okay, great. Thanks for taking my questions, guys. I'll pass the line.
Operator
operatorAnd that concludes the question and answer session. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Alessio for closing comments.
Alessio Artuffo
executiveThank you all for being on the call today, and we look forward to our next earnings call in November.
Operator
operatorHave a good day. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation and you may now disconnect. This live transcript is auto-generated without human intervention or review. [Call has ended.]
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