eMemory Technology Inc. (3529) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 8, 2024

Taipei Exchange TW Information Technology Semiconductors and Semiconductor Equipment earnings 61 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Millie Wang

executive
#1

Good afternoon, and welcome to eMemory's First Quarter 2024 Webcast Investor Conference. Joining us today is our Chairman, Dr. Charles Hsu; President, Mr. Michael Ho; Head of IR, Ms. Li-Jeng Chen; and the Director of the Finance Department, Ms. Teresa Kuo. The format of today's event will be as follows: first, eMemory's Chairman, Dr. Charles Hsu, will give an opening remark. Afterwards, President, Mr. Michael Ho, will summarize our operations, followed by our business outlook. Next, Dr. Charles Hsu will give a talk titled, Caliptra: Building a Silicon Root of Trust in Datacenters and Every Chip. Then we will conclude today's conference with a Q&A session, where our management team will be ready to answer your questions. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded and a webcast replay will be available after the conference is finished. For more information, please visit the company's website under the Investor Relations section. As usual, before we begin, we would like to remind everyone that today's presentation may contain forward-looking statements, subject to the risk factors associated with the semiconductor and IP business. Please refer to the cautionary statement on Page 3 of today's presentation. Now I would like to give the floor over to eMemory's Chairman, Dr. Charles Hsu.

Charles Hsu

executive
#2

Okay. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for attending our conference call today. As we mentioned in previous quarters, our multiyear growth cycle has just begun. eMemory is a company dedicated to inventing semiconductor device technologies. We license these technologies to foundries and based on our technology, we design IPs which are then licensed to fabless customers. Each of our newly invented technologies take at least 5 to 10 years to commercialize. However, once successful, the resulting royalty can last for over 20 years. We are still receiving royalties from our first technology, NeoBit, which was licensed 20 years ago. Over the past 2 decades, once foundries and fabless adopt our technologies, they continue to use them for every following generation. Moreover, our technology and IP portfolios continue growing. We now offer not only OTP but also MTP, EE, Flash, RRAM, PUF, Secure OTP and PUFrt, which is Root of Trust and PUFcc, which is Crypto Coprocessor. The demand for each technology has been increasing, resulting in significant growth in our licensing fees. The corresponding royalties will increase greatly in the future. With expansion of the foundry capacity worldwide, both existing and new foundries continue to license our technologies. And the royalties for advanced processes or new technologies are much higher compared to the past. Therefore, we are very confident in our future continuous growth. Next, I will invite our President, Michael Ho, to share our first quarter performance and the future outlook. Thank you.

Michael Ho

executive
#3

Good afternoon, everyone. Now let's begin with our 2024 first quarter financial results. The first quarter revenue was TWD 803 million, down 10.7% sequentially but up 20.2% year-over-year. Operating expenses were TWD 382 million, up 6.3% sequentially and 27.1% year-over-year. The increase in operating expenses is mainly due to the increase in employee and director bonuses as a result of increased net profit before tax. We allocated bonuses expenses each quarter as a percentage of net profit before tax, 15% for employees and 1.5% for directors. This quarter, there are foreign exchange gain in nonoperating income, leading to an increase in net profit before tax and nonrecurring increase in bonuses expenses. Operating income was TWD 421 million, with decrease of 22% sequentially but an increase of 14.6% year-over-year. Operating margin decreased by 7.6 percentage points sequentially and decreased by 2.6 percentage points year-over-year to 52.4%. Our net income amounting to TWD 431 million experienced an increase of 6.6% sequentially and 37.5% year-over-year. EPS for the quarter was TWD 5.77 and ROE was 53.2%. Now let's move on to the revenue contribution by licensing and royalty. Licensing in the first quarter accounted for 28.4% of the total revenue, down 16.6% sequentially but up 59.6% year-over-year. Royalties in the first quarter contributed 71.6% of the total revenue, decreasing 8.1% sequentially but increasing 9.5% year-over-year. Total revenue for the first quarter decreased by 10.7% compared to the previous quarter but increased by 20.2% compared to the previous year. With that, I will comment on our revenue contribution by specific IPs. For NeoBit, accounted for 20.9% of total licensing revenue in the first quarter, decreasing 33.5% sequentially but increasing 70% year-over-year. Its royalties accounted for 24.7% of total royalty, up 4% sequentially but down 11.1% year-over-year. For NeoFuse, accounted for 52.6% of total licensing revenue in the first quarter, up 2.3% sequentially and up 69.3% year-over-year. In terms of total royalty revenue, NeoFuse royalties decreased by 11.4% sequentially but increased by 17.4% year-over-year, accounting for 72.8% of total royalties. For PUF-based security IPs, contributed 8% of licensing revenue, decreasing 39% sequentially but increasing 10.2% year-over-year. Its royalties accounted for less than 1% of total royalties, up 15.9% compared to the previous quarter but down 59% compared to previous year. For MTP technology, accounted for 18.5% of the total licensing revenue, down 22.8% sequentially but up 53.7% year-over-year. Royalty from MTP decreased 12.2% sequentially but increased 64.7% year-over-year, accounted for 2.5% of total royalties. Now let's look at royalties for 8-inch and 12-inch wafers. For 8-inch wafers accounted for 42.8% of royalties, up 4% sequentially but down 0.2% year-over-year. For 12-inch wafers accounted for 57.2% of royalties, decreasing 15.4% sequentially but up 18.1% year-over. In total, 154 product tape-outs were completed in the first quarter. We will provide more information in the management report. In the next section, I will address our future outlook. For licensing revenues, due to strong demand from foundries and chip design customers for all of our technologies, the growth momentum of licensing revenue will continue to increase. For royalty revenues, we are beginning a multiyear growth cycle for royalties. Over the past 3 years, we have accumulated over 1,500 new tape-outs, which are entering mass production. From the first quarter royalty report, production for 22-, 28-nanometer and below has resulted in new royalty contribution from applications such as 6-nanometer DTV, 7-nanometer ADAS, 12-nanometer SSD controller and ISP as well as the 22-, 28-nanometer networking, switch and smart image processor. For specialty processes like high v in FinFET, BCD, embedded flash and emerging memory, we have the following development status. One, NeoFuse is developing toward FinFET in high v process for OLED DDI applications; two, RRAM is expanding into more processes; three, NeoFlash continue progressing in specialty process for automotive PMIC and MCU-related products. For advanced processes, one, NeoFuse has successfully qualified for the N5 automotive process with customer design in; two, PUFrt collaboration with CPU partners in 3-nanometer is progressing successfully. And regarding the business collaboration platform. For NVM and PUF-based technologies, expanding cooperation with all new foundries to license our technologies besides existing foundries. For security IPs, we have completed the agreement with the largest CPU IP company to integrate our security solution into the CPU architecture. This concludes my comments. Next, I will pass the time to Charles. Thank you.

Charles Hsu

executive
#4

Okay. So next, I would like to share with you about the Caliptra, which is Building a Silicon Root of Trust in Datacenters and Every Chip. As many devices are connected through Internet, there is a growing demand for emerging business models at the edge and higher levels of confidentiality between clouds and edge devices, particularly for the data center applications. Confidential computing for data center applications is raising the bar for security, requiring every individual chip at the SoC level to prove its trustworthiness. As a result, industry leaders have come together as part of the Open Compute Project, which is called OCP community to define and introduce Caliptra, which is a reusable silicon-level security IP block. We also call it the Hardware Root of Trust designed for integration into future chips used for the data centers, such as DPU, CPU, GPU and NIC and more, network IC. NIC stand for network IC. So Caliptra's development is spearheaded by NVIDIA, AMD, Google, Microsoft and other key players. The related Silicon Root of Trust IP will be adopted in the data centers, especially driven by the AI data centers. The milestones of the Caliptra are shown on this page. As you can see, Caliptra 1.0 has just been published in March of 2024. After knowing the background of Caliptra, let me share with you about eMemory's IPs can do for Caliptra. Caliptra Silicon RoT requires several key components, including Secure OTP, which is one-time programmable memory; and PUF, which is physically unclonable functions; and TRNG, which is true random number generator; and Crypto Engine. These elements establish a Hardware Root of Trust for the chip, ensuring the security of the operating systems, software and the personal privacy data. eMemory has been long -- has long been the major OTP IP provider. Based on our OTP technology, we also invented PUF, which is the most stable and reliable PUF in the industry. By integrating OTP, PUF and 4 environmental noise inputs, we have created the fastest true random number generator. To achieve Caliptra's high-level Root of Trust requirement, our Root of Trust plays a very important role. With the continued proliferation of the chips integrating Caliptra security (sic) [ Silicon ] Root of Trust, the demand for eMemory's IP will be increasing. And the next, I would like to further elaborate how eMemory's IP can achieve the 3 security functions required by Caliptra Root of Trust. The first important security function is unique chip identity, which is by chip fingerprint and also can be [indiscernible] PUF . This function is like a personal ID, with each chip having a unique identity number, eMemory's PUF and true random number generator can generate non-repeating random numbers stored directly into the anti-fuse OTP. And this unique chip identity serves as the foundation for the secure attestation process. After making sure the connected device unique ID, the next step is performing secure attestation, which should be done by the device certificate. So each chip must undergo the attestation, which is the process of verifying its integrity and the authenticity. This process involves generating a device certificate based on unique chip identifiers, granting the chip a genuine identity. With this certificate, the chip can be authorized by data centers and registered as a recognized device in the data center system to ensure secure connections. This process is similar to a company issuing a badge to a new employee, granting access to the company's facilities and resources. Following secure attestation, inter-chip communication via ciphertext is performed. True random number generator and the Crypto Engine will play important roles to ensure cybersecurity is maintained at a secure level. And the next after attestation is booting the system by Secure Boot. Secure Boot is a critical step in ensuring the integrity of the operating system during the boot process. If the tampered operating system manages to boot through a nonsecure boot process, subsequent applications may be vulnerable to malicious eavesdropping, which may lead to the leakage of private information. Secure Boot is essential to verify the authenticity of the operating system image and ensure that it has not been altered. During Secure Boot, the hardware used for performing security is initialized first. Then, the operating system image and code are authenticated through the hardware during the boot process. To ensure the integrity of operating system image, the source image must be protected and verified, which requires key generation by a true random number generator and encryption/decryption by a crypto engine. So eMemory has the full IP portfolio required for Caliptra Silicon Root of Trust. So with NVIDIA, AMD, Google and Microsoft implementing the Caliptra Silicon Root of Trust in data center chips, we believe the use of eMemory's IP in every chip for security will speed up. That concludes our sharings on Caliptra, which is building a silicon root of trust in data centers and every chip. Thank you very much for your time. Next, we will enter the Q&A section.

Millie Wang

executive
#5

Thank you, Charles. This is our prepared statement. We will now begin the Q&A session.

Millie Wang

executive
#6

[Operator Instructions] All of our questions will follow the format of answering the Chinese version first, followed by the English version. Okay. Li-Jeng?

Li-Jeng Chen

executive
#7

[Foreign Language]

Michael Ho

executive
#8

[Foreign Language]

Millie Wang

executive
#9

The first question was during the last earnings call, you mentioned that there are 3 main areas in AI applications: computing, storage, and sensing. Which of these 3 areas will contribute the fastest to your royalty revenue? And which one will have the largest addressable market in the future. Michael?

Michael Ho

executive
#10

Application systems, there are 3 main components: data input, data/model storage and computing accelerators. Currently, data input has go through various sensor applications, and eMemory has already entered the field and started receiving royalties. For data storage in NAND and DRAM, quite a few customers in NAND SSD controllers and CXL memory interface using our IPs, which also result in royalty contribution. In terms of computing, mainly in the advanced nodes, customers are using our Root of Trust IPs and SRAM repair IPs, and we believe it will significantly contribute to royalty in the future. Thank you.

Li-Jeng Chen

executive
#11

[Foreign Language] Michael?

Michael Ho

executive
#12

[Foreign Language]

Millie Wang

executive
#13

The question was, do you have any solutions for chiplet-related? Michael?

Michael Ho

executive
#14

eMemory's IPs have been adopted across various applications, which will be integrated into the packaged module as chiplets. One, in digital ICs for storaging key, ROM code and repairing high-density SRAM; two, in analog ICs for circuit repair and code storage; three, in DRAM ICs for DRAM repair functions; four, in NAND modules for storing keys for confidential computing. In the future development of chiplets, we anticipate that more chips in the chiplets will incorporate our IPs instead of just one chip. Thank you.

Li-Jeng Chen

executive
#15

[Foreign Language]

Michael Ho

executive
#16

[Foreign Language]

Millie Wang

executive
#17

The question was TSMC's latest A16 process technology featuring Super Power Rail will relocate the power grid to the backside of the wafer. Will this have an impact on your technologies? Michael, can you answer the question?

Michael Ho

executive
#18

Power primarily aims to achieve 2 objectives in process below the 2-nanometer: one is to improve power efficiency; and second is to reduce the number of back-end layers to lower manufacturing costs. This has no impact on the use of our IPs. Thank you.

Li-Jeng Chen

executive
#19

[Foreign Language]

Michael Ho

executive
#20

[Foreign Language]

Millie Wang

executive
#21

The question was, you recently announced the new Board members this year, which include notable additions such as Dr. F.C. Tseng and Dr. Jack Sun, both well-known figures closely linked with TSMC. What is the reason behind selecting these 2 members? And how does it benefit the company? Michael?

Michael Ho

executive
#22

Per FSC regulations, our independent directors have served 3 terms and, therefore, more than half of them need to be replaced. eMemory is a leading company in embedded nonvolatile memory within the IP industry. We will continue to collaborate with foundries in advanced process to develop cutting-edge nonvolatile memory and security technologies, while also expanding our business strategy and partnerships. The newly nominated directors will provide invaluable support to the company, bringing its expertise in technology, operating strategy and forging key partnerships. Thank you.

Li-Jeng Chen

executive
#23

[Foreign Language]

Charles Hsu

executive
#24

[Foreign Language]

Millie Wang

executive
#25

The question was, Synopsys recently acquired Intrinsic ID. Will this affect your PUF-based applications and business? Also, will this have an impact on similar technologies and IPs of your company? Charles?

Charles Hsu

executive
#26

After the launch of NeoPUF, our PUF technology, many customers have switched to use our NeoPUF and OTP instead of SRAM PUF from the -- SRAM PUF is from Intrinsic ID. The main reason is that our NeoPUF has better properties than SRAM PUF, including 5 different properties: first is the enhanced stability; second is increased reliability; and the third is eliminating the need for the error correction; and also eliminating the need for OTP for storing helper data; and we also demonstrate the radiation-hardened capabilities. So with these 5 extra properties, better than SRAM PUF, we are very confident that we will become a leading company in the field of PUF and OTP and TRNG and the Root of Trust IPs. And furthermore, Synopsys' acquisition of Intrinsic ID is a good sign that the industry recognize the significant potential and future demand for PUF in chip security and driving the provisioning of this IP solution through acquisition to better penetrate the market and capitalize on these opportunities. And eMemory recognized this trend in 2015 and developed the best PUF-based technology to address the problem encountered by SRAM PUF. Combined with our own IP, we can provide customers with a complete hardware security solution. We believe that we are at the forefront of this trend and will be the first to provide one-stop shop service to meet customers' demand.

Li-Jeng Chen

executive
#27

[Foreign Language] Michael?

Michael Ho

executive
#28

[Foreign Language]

Millie Wang

executive
#29

The question was, TSMC is accelerating their investment in advanced 3D packaging technologies such as CoWoS, InFO and SoIC. Are there opportunities for your IPs? And can you tell us if you currently have any customers adopting these applications?

Michael Ho

executive
#30

In 2.5D and 3D packaging, chips with different functionalities are packaged together. Therefore, if one chip fails, the entire package chip will fall. Our IP can help repair these failed chips. For example, memory components such as DRAM and SRAM and image sensors, CIS, are frequently combined with logic ICs. OTP plays an important role as a high-density memory repair and sensor repair in these packaged chips. We already have many customers in this area and continuing adoption from the new customers and applications. Thank you.

Li-Jeng Chen

executive
#31

[Foreign Language]

Michael Ho

executive
#32

[Foreign Language]

Millie Wang

executive
#33

The question was, do you have any solutions for AI-related applications? Michael?

Michael Ho

executive
#34

Three aspects to this question. One, AI applications need a hardware root of trust for protecting assets and ensuring operational security. We offer several security solutions tailored to address these specific security concerns related to the AI applications. Two, the computational demands of AI applications require substantial SRAM. Our comprehensive SRAM repair solutions are designed to improve the yield of AI chips and reduce the production cost. Three, AI applications rely heavily on the large scale of DRAM. Our complete DRAM repair solution can help meet the demands of AI chips in high-density memory applications. Thank you.

Li-Jeng Chen

executive
#35

[Foreign Language] Michael?

Michael Ho

executive
#36

[Foreign Language]

Millie Wang

executive
#37

We noticed a significant increase in operating expenses in quarter 1 compared to last year. Was there a rise in recruitment during this period? And additionally, could you provide an estimate of the growth ratio of your operating expenses for the entire year? Michael?

Michael Ho

executive
#38

Increase in operating expenses in the first quarter is mainly due to the increase in employee and director bonuses as a result of increased net profit before tax. We allocate bonuses expenses each quarter as a percentage of net profit before tax. That is 15% for employees and 1.5% for directors, which were included in that quarter's operating expenses. In the first quarter, there are foreign exchange gains in the nonoperating income, leading to an increase in the net profit before tax and nonrecurring increase in bonuses expenses.

Li-Jeng Chen

executive
#39

[Foreign Language] Michael?

Michael Ho

executive
#40

[Foreign Language]

Millie Wang

executive
#41

TSMC has lowered their growth forecast for the global semiconductor foundry industry, indicating weak demand across industries apart from AI-related products. What is the impact on your business in 2024?

Michael Ho

executive
#42

For the business growth in 2022 (sic) [ 2024 ], we are very confident due to the following reasons. One, our IP portfolios are increasing, diversified, including the OTP, MTP, EE [indiscernible], Flash, RRAM, MRAM, PUF, Secure OTP, PUFrt, that is Root of Trust IP, and PUFcc, that is Secure Coprocessor IP. This will drive significant growth in licensing, NRE and usage revenue in 2024 compared to the 2023. Two, regarding the royalties, according to the feedback from our customers, their inventory has decreased to a certain extent, returning to the normal levels. Therefore, demand for our products in mature nodes will also return to normal level of production. Furthermore, we have accumulated over 1,500 tape-outs in the pipeline in the past 3 years, which will drive our royalty growth further. Thank you.

Li-Jeng Chen

executive
#43

[Foreign Language]

Michael Ho

executive
#44

[Foreign Language]

Millie Wang

executive
#45

Will the excessive expansion and price-cutting competition among Chinese foundries affect the company's royalty? Michael, can you please answer this?

Michael Ho

executive
#46

Asset expansion of Chinese foundry in mature process nodes will limit for the following reasons: one, the leading foundry haven't followed pricing cut as the reducing foundry price doesn't necessarily guarantee an increase in market share; two, customers choose foundry partners not only based on the pricing but also on-time delivery, time to market, yield and service; three, furthermore, the geopolitical risk pushed major U.S. chipmakers to shift away from the manufacturing in China. Also, the semiconductor manufacturing localization policies in regions like Europe, the U.S. and then Japan, all limit the effect of China overcapacity and the downward pressure on the foundry price outside of China. As our technology development towards more advanced nodes and specialty process such as NeoFlash and MTP, the royalty we receive will be higher than average. Therefore, we are not concerned about the impact of price erosion of Chinese foundries. Additionally, based on our previous experience, IP demand and adoption trend to rise as the price of foundry wafer price decline, ultimately resulting in increased penetration and royalty revenue over time. Also, as foundry continue to expand their capacities, our royalty revenue will grow continuously. Thank you.

Li-Jeng Chen

executive
#47

[Foreign Language] Michael?

Michael Ho

executive
#48

[Foreign Language]

Millie Wang

executive
#49

Do you have cloud service customers? Michael?

Michael Ho

executive
#50

Service providers are our customers already using our IP across different product lines. These major players have a strict requirement for IP vendors, which we have qualified for many years. Therefore, our IPs can be used in chips of different functionalities, whether in AI servers or edge devices. Thank you.

Li-Jeng Chen

executive
#51

[Foreign Language] Michael?

Michael Ho

executive
#52

[Foreign Language]

Millie Wang

executive
#53

There are multiple companies claiming to enter the OTP market and stating that their IPs are more competitive because their IP size is smaller than yours. Will you be losing orders because of them? Michael?

Michael Ho

executive
#54

OTP and MTP technologies have been in the market for over 20 years, and the competition has never stopped. Our company continues to progress into the most leading process nodes, extending our technology portfolio into the security area. Reputation is very important in the IP industry and our customers, whether they are foundries, fabless or even OEMs, are all satisfied with our technologies and services. All of these are reflected in our revenue and earnings. We strongly believe this trend will continue in the future. Thank you.

Li-Jeng Chen

executive
#55

[Foreign Language] Michael?

Michael Ho

executive
#56

[Foreign Language]

Millie Wang

executive
#57

UMC mentioned that they are postponing their Singapore fab expansion. Will this affect you? Michael?

Michael Ho

executive
#58

Frequently revise their expansion plans and schedule in response to the economic cycles, customer demand and various other factors. Our collaboration with UMC is not limited to specific process or location. There are multiple projects ongoing across all our technologies. Therefore, the delay in expanding a particular factory location will not affect us. Thank you.

Li-Jeng Chen

executive
#59

[Foreign Language] Michael?

Michael Ho

executive
#60

[Foreign Language]

Millie Wang

executive
#61

Your customer mentioned in their earnings that the driver IC is facing severe price, pressure with hopes of foundry reducing wafer prices. Will this affect your royalty?

Michael Ho

executive
#62

Customers continue to migrate toward more advanced process with the proportion of high-end OLED DDI steadily increasing. Additionally, the number of OLED DDI will increase in the foldable smartphones, along with the content increase on the panel such as like e-paper, ESL, PMIC-related and more. Overall, we believe that these factors will mitigate the impact of declining wafer price and remain a strong cash cow for us. Thank you.

Li-Jeng Chen

executive
#63

[Foreign Language] Michael?

Michael Ho

executive
#64

[Foreign Language]

Millie Wang

executive
#65

Does China's semiconductor localization plan include IPs? And do we face competition from local IP vendors in China? And are customers switching to domestic IPs due to government policies? Michael?

Michael Ho

executive
#66

As we mentioned before, the nonvolatile memory IP business is characterized by high technological barriers, very long period of development and the relatively small revenue output compared to the foundries and chips. Therefore, there is not the focus of localization of semiconductor policies. While we have observed some competition from the local IP vendors, customers are very careful about the IP adoption, which is not only cost consideration. Factors such as the patent protection, quality, reliability and technical support are much more important considerations. Thus, our licensing cases in China continue to increase. Additionally, some customers have encountered big issue after trying local IP vendors and have subsequently switched back to using our IPs. Thank you.

Li-Jeng Chen

executive
#67

[Foreign Language] Michael?

Michael Ho

executive
#68

[Foreign Language]

Millie Wang

executive
#69

Starting from the third quarter of 2020, your NTO average is around 140 to 150 with no substantial increase. Does this mean that your R&D resources are limited? And how do you predict your NTO trends? Michael?

Michael Ho

executive
#70

85% of our NTOs are from usage cases, where customers reuse existing IPs and therefore, require minimal engineering resources. Although there hasn't been a significant increase in NTO number per quarter in the recent years, our tape-outs are continuously moving toward more advanced nodes. The cost of design, development, and mask increase at more advanced nodes, resulting in fewer NTOs in advanced process compared to the mature process. The average royalty per tape-out in advanced nodes is much higher. In addition, as the proportion of tape-out in advanced node increase year-over-year, so does our licensing revenue. Thank you.

Millie Wang

executive
#71

[indiscernible] time, we will answer our last question.

Li-Jeng Chen

executive
#72

[Foreign Language]

Michael Ho

executive
#73

[Foreign Language]

Millie Wang

executive
#74

The license fee for MTP in 2023 grew nearly 100% compared to 2022. When can we expect to see a significant royalty contribution and in which areas? Additionally, how do you view the ESL market? Michael?

Michael Ho

executive
#75

Past 3 years, we have accumulated over 200 NTOs for MTP, primarily used in the applications such as MCU, PMIC and sensors. These products have gradually entered the production, contributing to royalty revenue. In the first quarter alone, we sold over 60% year-over-year growth in MTP royalty. As for ESL, we already have customers in production using our OTP for single-color and the 3-color driver ICs. Due to customers requiring MTP on the new 4-color driver ICs, we already have many customers adopting our MTP on multiple foundry process platforms over the past years, which will contribute to our royalties soon. Thank you.

Millie Wang

executive
#76

We will now begin the closing comments. Charles, please proceed.

Charles Hsu

executive
#77

Okay. Thank you once again for your patience and the support for eMemory. We will continue to work hard on technology and IP innovation and the PUF-based hardware security solutions for our customers and bringing higher returns for our shareholders. And for more information about our PUF-based security IP and the technology, we encourage you to visit our PUFsecurity website and check out our articles and other materials. Thank you.

Millie Wang

executive
#78

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Please be advised that the conference recording will be accessible within the next 3 hours. You may now disconnect. Goodbye, and have a good day.

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