Envirosuite Limited (EVS) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
July 26, 2023
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Jason Cooper
executive[Audio Gap] [Operator Instructions] I'm going to first start though with a bit of an explanation of who Envirosuite is for the new investors. And just to remind people of the journey, we're very much a purpose-driven company, and we believe environmental intelligence is improving the well-being of people and the planet and also to drive prosperity. We focus on 6 key sectors: aviation, mining, industrial, waste, wastewater and water treatment. And we have 3 product suites within that. We have our Aviation Group, our Industrial Group and our Water Group. The common part that threads all of them through is that science is the core of everything that we build. We're taking environmental events and we're turning that into data, returning that then into information, knowledge and decisions. And from NASA to BHP, we're an intrinsic part of an efficient modern day operations, enabling data to decisions. We do benefit from strong demand driven through ESG principles all around the world. And we are a truly global operation, and we operate in 3 regions: the Americas, APAC and EMEA. Today, we won't be getting too far into the financial details as the full year results will be presented on August 22. So this is going to be primarily focused around the sales update for Q4. So from a key highlights perspective, we had a fantastic Q4, one that I'm incredibly proud of, a truly record quarter. $6.8 million in new sales, up 13% on PCP. Total ARR grew by 12% on PCP to $59.4 million. So let's get into some of those deeper parts or the key parts. The record sales of $6.8 million was made up of $3.1 million new ARR and in project sales of $3.7 million. The total ARR, which grew at 12% on PCP, actually grew this year at 20% growth at the company level when excluding the one-off churn event that we spoke about in Q3. So we're incredibly proud of the 20% growth on the top line through this year. EVS Aviation achieved a record -- sorry, not a record, but a very strong $1.2 million in new ARR. This is an important customer win this quarter that we do want to highlight, which was a 10-year engagement with Egyptian Airports Company with a total contract value of $9.8 million. I'll get further into what that contract is made up of. This is an incredibly exciting opportunity for us. We've made a fourth sale of carbon emissions modeling now across 13 times as the Aviation sector absolutely is being proactive in addressing the climate impact and the greenhouse gas emission issues that it has to deal with. And we will support our customers on that journey. EVS Industrial did have a record quarter, and that was $1.7 million of new ARR, driven by particularly strong growth in the Americas once again as the company's relationship with BHP continued to grow. And that's based on our Land, Expand and Scale strategy. So 2 new sites were added during the quarter with BHP. EVS Water, and we announced this at the Wilsons Rapid Insights earlier in the year, we were successful in signing NEOM. Now for those of you who don't know who NEOM is, there's a link in the release. NEOM is an incredibly high profile city in Saudi Arabia, with a $500 billion investment going through. The engagement is though for 2 of its existing desalination plants, but this is going to be a long-term partner for us as NEOM starts to grow through. There's an annualized churn of 8.1%, which included that one-off event. If you exclude that, our churn is down at 1.9% for Q4. So if we spend time on Aviation, let's get into a little bit more detail on this. The total ARR is now at $36.4 million, which is up 7% on PCP, adding that $1.2 million you can see on the left-hand side of the table. That though is 19% growth excluding that one-off event. Now if you look at the history now of the Aviation segment within Envirosuite over the last 3 years, this is an incredibly strong year. And what is encouraging is we're getting growth in all 3 regions. Certainly, we've had strong in the second half of this year. We've seen strong growth in EMEA, which is which is Europe, the Middle East and Africa, but we've also had strong contribution from the Americas and also from APAC. In this particular quarter, we added sites in Americas, which is Ontario, Portland and Naples. And here, in the APAC region, we added Christchurch. We also -- in the Middle East, we added Abu Dhabi, so 2 airports there. I want to spend a little bit of time though on the flagship win, which is EAC, Egyptian Airports Company. I was actually in Cairo with the customers in June. And it was fantastic to see the way that Egypt is addressing -- at being proactive in addressing environmental impacts. COP27 was held in Egypt, COP28 is moving to Dubai. And as part of the COP27 initiatives, they are being proactive in a way that they want to drive improvements at all levels. This is the first time that we have added [ noise test ] carbon emissions modeling and on this solution into one new airport site. And so that's addressing air quality, noise and carbon. They're being -- they're see now certainly as the leaders in this region, and arguably the world, as to what they're trying to do in addressing their impact and understanding how this addresses the community and their operations. So we're excited to work with EAC. The other part of this, which is important, is it represents a 10-year engagement. One of the strong parts of our aviation business model is our long-term contracts that we have with customers, and we see this as a true partnership. On the left-hand side, you'll see that new ARR is not a linear path, and this is going to be based on sometimes having large project wins, which you will see. But what is encouraging is our Aviation total ARR now is up at $36.4 million, a really strong finish for the year. Moving to Industrial. So strong quarter for total sales, $2.1 million. New ARR of $1.7 million, which I said earlier, which represents growth of [ 19% ] on PCP. It was a really strong continued growth in the mining sector. What we're seeing in FY '23 is continued growth in the Industrial part within Mining, and this is based on a certain need from a customer with a really strong value proposition. As we've highlighted earlier and throughout the year, adding noise and vibration into the ANOMS platform has significantly expanded our reach and the benefit that we provide to our customers. And certainly with BHP now, we're well positioned for a long period of time. And if you think about the mining sector, similarly to airports, who want to operate for 40, 50, 60 years, and so we see this as a very strong business model and a very sticky business model. The Americas contributed 52% of new ARR. And what we are seeing is it's not just mining within the Americas, so environmental justice is certainly driving awareness and driving investment from our customers. We also were able to add a significant customer in the waste sector, and we will see that in the FY '24 growth that waste will continue to play a key part in our growth. What I'm particularly excited about though is the emerging blueprint for cross-selling EVS Industrial into EVS Aviation as air quality becomes a stronger need to address in the marketplace. Whilst we can't name the mine site with BHP, it is a large copper facility, copper mine in Chile. So this is helping them address their environmental risks and identifying when those risks develop and when those risks are expected. And this comes back to the strength of our platform, being strong in our predictive capability. We're able to work with them in a proactive sense. So the platform is helping them think ahead of time, and this is driving a strong operational improvement. Again, another key part of our strategy that we set 2 years ago is Land, Expand and Scale. We've spent time with our customers. We understand what the product can do. It's also fed them into new product ideation and making sure that we have a truly scalable, repeatable and efficient platform to help our customers. Moving into Water. As we said, we added $0.2 million for Optimiser and Designer. So this is looking at desalination plants where we are looking to reduce the energy required to produce drinking water as well as the chemicals that go into the process. This provides a strong return on investment. If you now look at the footprint of our desalination plants, we're being strong in Hong Kong, in Singapore and now in the Middle East. And what we have seen on the back of this announcement with NEOM is a strong interest across the board. A global lead for water Sada joined around 5, 6 months ago. And Sada has been working proactively with key customers around the world, both at an asset level with [indiscernible] of income as well as in the industrial and partnership opportunities. As for the coming quarters, we'll start to see some benefits of the investment that we've made with Sada in that space. The other part though to think about is what we have already done with our customers with Water Corp. and we continue to work with Water Corp., SA Water, SIAAP, DAM, Kalamazoo and Evoqua to work through how SeweX plays a pivotal in them addressing their operations and the risk moving forward. SeweX is seeing significant advancement at a technology level this year. And we're proud in how we've been able to validate the technology and help our customers achieve their goals. We encourage all listeners today to go on to the link on the bottom of Page 5 to have a look at NEOM and what NEOM is wanting to do. By us positioning on the first 2 desalinate upsets and building that out, we are very well positioned to support the significant investment that NEOM will have over the coming years. But importantly, we don't have to wait for these desalination plants to be built. [ They're ] operational today. [ Leading ] up here on project sales. You'll see that graph is a very nice graph where it goes up for the last 3 quarters, finishing with a very strong $3.7 million. That is helped somewhat by the large aviation projects wins that we had in Q4. And you'll also see that this is not necessarily a linear path, so this will be lumpy as we move forward. What we have now seen over the last 2 to 3 years is that project sales are stronger in the second half of the year. At the moment, we don't anticipate that changing, but just to give you that insight. The other part there of project sales is it does drive with the expansion opportunity. And so project sales we see, and been the case over the last few years, is how that supports the ARR business model. The other part of project sales and why it's important for our business, and I'll pass to Justin in a minute to cover some of the financial observations of the quarter, is it does leave them into cash and profit in a relatively short spae and time. I'll finish with the outlook. So look, we do reaffirm our position, our transition to adjusted EBITDA, but we're not going to spend a lot of time on this today because the results will come out in around a month's time. But we did end the year with another record sales event. And we're really proud of how we finish the year on Q4, but we're also into now FY '24 with a really strong momentum. Each quarter, we're seeing stronger lead generation through our marketing platforms. And we have got a strong pipeline within our current key accounts through our Land, Expand and Scale. And we're very targeted in the 6 sectors that we spoke about at the start of the presentation about how we want to drive growth. So we do see strong upward momentum. Also, the other part of that is bringing a product-led organization. We have strong product portfolios, and we have invested into that technology leadership. All of those wins that we had this year, we were actually in competitive situations, which is great to do. But we also were able to be successful getting -- just engaging with the customer directly to help them and take them on a journey. They trust us, and we want to be there as a long-term partner. Our 3 regions now have a mature sales operations and leadership team, and we'll continue to see growth in all 3 sectors. So Justin, I might ask to you now just close off on the financials.
Justin Owen
executiveThanks, Jason, and good morning. As Jason mentioned earlier, we will be providing further visibility on our results and outlook when we release FY '23 later in the year. But again, confirming the transition to adjusted EBITDA profitability. And what we will see is a significant improvement over our FY '22 comparative being a loss of $4 million. In terms of the year, we finished with cash above $8 million, which is in line with expectations. So pleased on that piece. In terms of churn, we mentioned our churn number of 8.1%, including the significant event and 1.9% on the exclusive -- the excluded basis. When we dig a little bit deeper into our reasoning for churn, a couple of the key points that come out on a relatively small population, I should say. Firstly, it's budget constraints in some of our customers where there was no alternative provider of sort, so it provides an opportunity for us down the track. And another thing was the completion of initial phase of the contract, with a potential for future but nothing signed up at this point. And the last one was a change in management and the priorities. So no - none of the churn events that we identified or we reported, there any transition to another provider. So we're very comfortable in those ones as well as providing an opportunity for us down the track. As Jason said, moving to project sales, they are a combination of implementation and instrumentation for some of the major projects in the period. Certainly, [ each of them ] is a significant one for us as is Abu Dhabi where, again, these project sales and [ as well ] shorter-term revenue opportunity will lead to the longer-term recurring growth. Of course, there are, on the project sales, some instrumentation replacement and expansion programs that are operating within our existing customer base that won't have a direct impact on ARR going forward. Lastly, just want to finish off in our implementation activities. They remain well managed with a very big understanding of currencies within the supply chain. We mentioned at the half year that our supply chain has recovered from the pre-pandemic, and we're able to manage those customer -- sorry, the supply relationships very positively. More importantly, we have a very strong team leading our implementation process, and we're confident that implementations will -- or implementation time frames will continue to improve as we move forward. But the highlight, if you like, from the finance piece, clearly, there will be more that we will cover in our next update. What I would like to do is I'll hand to Jason, myself to the presentation team and open up for questions.
Unknown Attendee
attendee[Operator Instructions] Chris Savage from Bell Potter, you should be unmuted now and go ahead with your question.
Chris Savage
analystYou hear me okay?
Jason Cooper
executiveYes.
Justin Owen
executiveYes.
Chris Savage
analystGreat. Just firstly, was Q4 on budget, was it ahead of budget in terms of new ARR and total ARR?
Justin Owen
executiveWe think it was slightly ahead of budget, certainly a strong quarter there, with some significant wins being in the Aviation and Industrial. Some of those, though, were slightly delayed through the year. just from the procurement part. But if you look at it from a full year, slightly on budget.
Chris Savage
analystWas there anything that slips potentially into Q1?
Justin Owen
executiveNot in this quarter. We closed everything that we did want to close in this quarter.
Chris Savage
analystAnd just the pipeline for '24 across the 3 sectors, if you can?
Jason Cooper
executiveYes. What we have seen, let's start with the smallest one in Water. Obviously, with the validation that we've now got with our customers in the 3 regions and also the 3 product sets, we have seen a strong pipeline build up over time. I understand from some shareholders that they want to see the Water go much faster. But I think we have to be realistic with understanding that this is a water utilities that we're dealing with. And it is important to understand that this is drinking water, and so we want to be making sure that we're working with our customers, not pushing that through. But Chris, very excited about the water pipeline opportunity, and that's with a mixture of different cost segments. Industrial, I was reviewing the pipeline as we always do, but really strong in mining, in waste and in industrial. And we know that we've got a strong value up there that we will continue to build through. What we have also seen is through the last 3 months is the transition into, say, a new presales team, and they're functioning at a higher level there. So certainly health efficiency within the industrial part has improved. And aviation, look, on the back in carbon emissions coming in with what we're doing with the [ ASP ] in North America, we are seeing certainly a shift into the greenhouse gas impact. And so the pipeline and the value prop is certainly evolving in aviation. And as a market leader, we're really well positioned [ to pick ] up strong market share as we move forward.
Chris Savage
analystAnd just back on Water, Jason. What's going on with Water Corp? That seems to have stopped a bit. Any comment?
Jason Cooper
executiveNo, the opposite of that. I think it's a great outcome that we're working with the Corp. and we are -- spent [ more ] sessions with them, myself in Perth and with the team. Really strong validation. They are really pushing SeweX working and bringing it into realization. So we're very, very happy with Water Corp. using that [ much ] and how they're applying it into their business. So we're happy, Chris.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeWe might just go to a written question before we hand over to the next person that's going to ask live. It's about project sales. Jason, could you just provide a bit of color around project sales, how it's charged to the clients and whether it's on a contracts basis?
Jason Cooper
executiveYes absolutely. So the projects sales are -- has a strong contribution margin and a strong gross margin contribution to the business. So yes. Well, there's a combination where we have instrumentation sales. So it could be instrumentation sales to the aviation sector. And also in industrials, we -- industrial is a slightly -- obviously, a slightly different product and one that we are [ I would say ] third-party, so clients and agreements that we're going to see as opposed to the Aviation, which is essentially our designed and contract-manufactured product. But there's also an element of people cost on project sales with the -- or project revenue when it comes to people costs associated with implementations. So there's a mix across that, that we're seeing right at the moment with the strength around Abu Dhabi [ B2B ] on the aviation side, we're seeing that combined instrumentation sales as the lead indicator to the future ARR. And as mentioned earlier, there are a couple of one-off projects where we are replacing the noise monitoring terminals in a couple of instances and also expanding within an existing environment with additional monitors. Again, that's across the industrial space.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeThanks, Justin. We'll go to Ross Barrows now. Ross, if you would like to unmute yourself and pose your question?
Chris Savage
analystCan you hear me okay?
Jason Cooper
executiveYes. [indiscernible]
Ross Barrows
analystJust a question around the ARR growth over the year. It was around $6 million of absolute ARR that was added, that's to $6.5 million this year. If we look back the year before that, it was also in a $6.5 million level. Is it fair to say that you'd be hoping to get incrementally higher ARR in dollar terms going forward? Or do you think that it could be kind of like year-on-year? I'm assuming it's going to start to accelerate with the pipeline. If you can maybe give some color around that, that would be helpful.
Jason Cooper
executiveYes, Ross, if you look at that, the actual ARR growth is higher than $6 million as far as the results are. So we've done [ $2.12 million ] and [ $3.1 million ] in the fourth quarter related to this. So that's around $9.2 million of ARR growth. What dragged that down was, let's call it, a single event churn in Q3. And so I think that's a really strong part. What we are seeing is certainly a stronger lead into FY '24. But just turning towards $6 million. Justin?
Justin Owen
executiveYes. Ross, the [ main point ] when you're looking at the comparison is at FY '24 when we were at $53 million, that included that major churn event. So we're calling that because it is so significant in its impact on the financial result and doesn't truly reflect the effort and the success that the company has enjoyed in growing ARR over the 12-month period. Clearly, all the other churn events are in there. But the severity and significance of it, it's worth doing it on a normalized position in terms of what the sales teams have to achieve.
Ross Barrows
analystThat's fair. [ I like where the churn. It does make sense ]. The other comment was just around the project sales were -- is a leading indicator over time. And hopefully, that's going to continue going forward. The question I have is, is there any kind of rule of thumb -- it's probably a difficult one to answer, but is there a $1 million of project sales that turns into x million of ARR? Or is there any way you can think about it? Obviously, [ they are taking time ] so there's no way to answer it, but any color around that?
Jason Cooper
executiveThere is a sense of -- in the aviation and industrial, the [ reporting ] there's no rule of thumb, but we see this sort of carbon business model being able to move project sales to revenue and profit in a relatively short space of time and a long-term sticky business model.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeThanks, Ross. We'll go back to the Q&A board. There's been questions. Jay, it's about the competitor scape, saying you mentioned competitors. Who are the competitors? And a question from [ John McBain ] that also the competitors, and were there [ gains or ] losses in the quarter?
Jason Cooper
executiveSo who are the competitors? The competitors in -- that's focused on water. There is a competitive product, SeweX. It is unique, [ has been on ] the same level, [ so that means that can be an advantage ] having 3 or 4 years ahead of the [ winnings ] more competitor and [ proven ] capability. What we mean in that part is more [ comp ] centers, so instrumentation is a simple path. But if anyone wants to drive operational improvement, we really are [ since we can afford taking that path ]. I guess it's a slightly different in the standard noise [ facility ] from our competitors both in North Amara and Europe. We said that we have been highly [ scaled ] through that. I think off the top of my head of any competitive losses into it, I can't comment on what [ it's going to be ].
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. A couple of questions just on -- I know we made a comment about profitability. But could you talk to closing cash and cash burn during the quarter? And also does that figure of the closing cash include the Egyptian one-off upfront payments.
Justin Owen
executiveOkay. So thank you for the question. Of course, when it comes to profitability and financial, more deep financial metrics, we'll provide an update -- or not provide update we'll provide insight on these when we get to our full year results. In terms of cash, we were advised that it's probably closed at over $8 million in the quarter, which was in line with expectations. In relation to Egypt, that -- it's announced today as a tale, not yet as revenue. So we anticipate having mobilized [ this in ]. We anticipate that the project revenue, so the instrumentation sales and implementation, will be hitting the -- hitting revenue and ultimately cash during the latter part of H1. Those immediate implementation time frames are yet to be locked into fund. But certainly, the team are mobilizing for that rollout. In terms of cash and cash burn, it's something that we focus on quite significantly in the -- as the executive team. And certainly, the operating cash flow level, we're starting to see some good around -- in those numbers. What we have got is an increasing push that our customers are wanting to take in the -- certainly in the industrial space, whether they're wanting to transition from an upfront acquisition of instrumentation to one where the instrumentation is packaged up and rolled up with the software access piece. So they're wanting to convert what we term a CapEx sale into OpEx. So we are seeing an increasing pressure, if you like, on -- from the sales organization and how they wanted to do in the industrial space, we want to accommodate that. And so we are investigating options on how we best fund that going into the future.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeThanks, Justin. Just mindful of time, I think we'll take one more spoken question. We'll go to [ Andrew Page ]. [ Andrew ], if you can unmute yourself and pose your question.
Unknown Analyst
analystYes. Thanks, [ Pat ]. Obviously, a lot of talk of inflation lately. I'm curious as to what pressures you've built directly with your costs, whether that be sort of staff or instrumentation? But also perhaps more interestingly, what ability do you have to pass on? Cost is fairly low churn, you're pretty tightly embedded into customer workflows. Is that a lever that you have pulled or can pull? And to what extent that might be achieved?
Jason Cooper
executiveYes. Thanks, Andrew. Good question. So look, [ based of ] the company, our biggest costs are going to be people and the cloud infrastructure to support it. So we do manage that tightly. We haven't grown anywhere near the space from a headcount perspective that other technology companies have done over the last 2 years who have really controlled their headcount number, and thereby controlling cost of the business as we move through that cash flow positive target that we have. From supply chain instrumentation, we do manage that incredibly tightly through good, strong partnerships in industrial sector and also our own supply chain within the aviation part. So that is area that we'll be focused on and utilization of cash is strong. So yes, we're happy to date of how we have been able to manage that. Going back to the ability to fix that with the customer, where we can, we do within the contract construct. And so in large parts of the Aviation and the Industrial part, we do have CPI as a trigger point in those contracts. And so we do -- winning contract then, obviously. And we want to look after our customers and understand that journey, but we do have that ability to do that.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeThanks very much, Andrew and Jason. I might just -- I'll quickly say we're always very happy to take questions. Please submit any questions at any time to investors@envirosuite.com, and we'll come back to you. [ John ] has posed a very specific client question, which I'm not sure we are at liberty to talk publicly about. So [ John ], we will look at that and come back to you with an answer there. But Jason, perhaps just some concluding comments from yourself?
Jason Cooper
executiveYes, really happy with the quarter, but more importantly, happy with the year. So first of all, to our staff around the world to the environmental staff, a fantastic year. I know people have worked incredibly hard to get to the results and to really focusing on our customers. So first of all, thank you to the [ Enviros ]. For our customers, the partnerships that we've built and the trust that we have built, we'll continue to invest into that and to make sure that we are seen as a leading environmental intelligence technology company in the world, which we are. And so the outlook for FY '24, I think, is exceptionally strong for us. We're well positioned from both from the technology and a product perspective, from a go-to-market motion that we have in each of the products. So we really are well positioned for a strong FY '24. And so the new shareholders that have come on, thank you. Thank you for supporting. Also for the existing shares that supports for a long time. I think the transformation that we have made in the coming -- that you would have seen over many years now, I think we continue to improve each part. So I think Q4 caps off a great FY '23 and importantly positions us for a really strong FY '24. So yes, thank you to everyone for joining today.
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