Equinix, Inc. (EQIX) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

November 26, 2020

NASDAQ US Real Estate Specialized REITs conference_presentation 43 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Michael Funk

analyst
#1

Hi. Good morning and good evening to all the investor clients who have dialed in to the Equinix presentation. This is Michael Funk from Bank of America. Very happy to have Jeremy Deutsch from Equinix here with us tonight for the presentation. His colleague, Katrina Rymill, has a disclosure to read before we begin. So I'll kick it over to Katrina.

Katrina Rymill

executive
#2

Great. Thank you, Mike. And as always, appreciate you hosting us. So before we get started, some of what we'll be talking about today contains forward-looking statements. Please read our SEC filing for more information about factors that could affect these statements. Thanks, Mike.

Michael Funk

analyst
#3

Great. Thank you, Katrina. And as a quick reminder, the format tonight is going to be a 45-minute fireside chat. [Operator Instructions] Quick introduction of Jeremy. And I think Equinix is one of the more unique companies that I covered here in the U.S. in terms of their global reach. So very lucky to have Jeremy here with us tonight. He is the President of Asia Pacific and responsible for all the regional management strategy and growth plans for Equinix in Asia Pacific, including operations in Australia, China, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Japan, Korea and Singapore. So certainly able to comment on a wide range of geographies in APAC this evening. He's held multiple roles at Equinix, including Sales Director of Equinix Australia and Managing Director of Equinix Australia. He has almost 20 years of experience in the information and communications technology industry. So certainly a wealth of knowledge to bring to the conversation tonight. So I wanted to thank Jeremy for being here with us.

Jeremy Deutsch

executive
#4

Mike, thanks for having me. I really appreciate the opportunity to come out to chat.

Michael Funk

analyst
#5

And maybe we can just kick off, and you can walk through what your priorities are in APAC.

Jeremy Deutsch

executive
#6

Yes, sure. So you've sort of covered off some of the background there with the markets we operate in Asia Pac. We have 227 data centers around the world. 46 of them are across the Asia Pac region. So we've got a lot of focus on obviously making sure we support our customers across the region in a very strong fashion. As far as priorities go and where the focus has been, even in the last couple of weeks, we've made some announcements on new infrastructure that we're building in the region. So we announced a new facility a couple of weeks ago in Perth called Perth 3, PE3. And just today, actually, we announced a new facility in Osaka, Osaka 3. So we've been quite busy on the organic growth side. We've also, during this year, announced an acquisition in India, which is a location that many of our global customers -- and we have over 10,000 global customers. One of the most frequently asked-for locations that was missing in our platform potentially was India and specifically Mumbai. So this year, we've made an announcement of an acquisition in India with a company called GPX Global Systems of their Indian operations, which gives us 2 facilities in Mumbai. So I guess from that side, a big focus on continuing to organically scale our platform across the region for our customers and then entering new markets and extending that platform across the region. And really, all of that has been around supporting our customers through their digital transformation requirements. And I think that's the key reason that we're continuing to see a strong acceleration across the platform and across the Asia Pac region.

Michael Funk

analyst
#7

It's all a very helpful baseline for conversation. And I'm very interested in hearing about how APAC market is different from North America and Europe. Clearly, North America, more mature market in North America. But how do the customers differ? Is there a difference in the deal size you're seeing in APAC? Build time and cost? Power availability? Can you compare and contrast that market to EMEA and North America?

Jeremy Deutsch

executive
#8

Yes, sure. So let me start off with the similarities first before I go to the differences. One of the amazing about the Equinix platform is how many of customers are deployed with us across multiple locations. So this may be multiple regions or multiple -- or cities. So over 80% of our customers are with us in more than one city or one metro as we call them. And over 60% of our customers are with us across all 3 regions. So you really have that cross-pollination between the regions and a lot of similarities baseline in the customers. Now as far as what the customers are focused on doing with us, again, a lot of similarities across the 3 regions. And probably I'll break it down for you to give you a bit of a flavor. The customers generally are coming to us to solve their interconnection requirements. They're coming in to make sure that they can plug into their network service providers in the market, the cloud service providers in the market and offer either their services to their end users or complete their digital architecture. And that's very consistent across all 3 regions. In actual fact, if you look at the third quarter, we did over 4,400 deals across 3,100 customers just across the global platform there. And that was very evenly spread as you look at it in the different sort of mix capabilities between the 3 regions. So a lot of those customers are coming to us for a highly interconnected footprint, so similar deal sizes that we're seeing across the regions there, similar kinds of requirements. In actual fact, it's often the same customer deploying very similar architecture in Europe as well as in Asia Pac as a they already have in the Americas. So a lot of similarities, I guess, is the thesis that I would give you as they're looking at scaling their platforms. So -- and one of the most interesting things we're seeing from our customers has been desire for e-mobility. When they're looking to do their architecture if they're doing hybrid multicloud, for example, they're leveraging an Amazon connection and Microsoft connection, their global connection. They want to be able to do that in their home market, which could be Amsterdam. And when they come to APAC, they want to replicate that it into a couple of markets to interconnect. They're looking for a location where they can pick up the exact same parts and build the exact same platform. And that's very much what the Equinix Cloud does and gives our customers the opportunity to leverage.

Michael Funk

analyst
#9

Jeremy, I wonder if you could do me a favor, and I think Katrina can jump in here for a moment, but your line is feeling a little bit faint. Do you mind disconnecting and dialing back in, and I can ask maybe Katrina about some of the ESG while you do that?

Jeremy Deutsch

executive
#10

Sure, can do. Give me a second.

Michael Funk

analyst
#11

Okay. Thank you. Katrina, are you still there?

Katrina Rymill

executive
#12

Yes, I'm still here. I'm only -- sorry.

Michael Funk

analyst
#13

Yes. Sorry about that. He...

Katrina Rymill

executive
#14

Okay.

Michael Funk

analyst
#15

Yes. And I wanted to ask about ESG and specifically in APAC, and I hope it's not too narrowing a focus. But one of the questions I've been asking, and clearly, I mean all the companies the last 2 days have articulated an ESG strategy. I think Equinix was relatively early with their own sustainability reports. But just on procuring renewable energy and challenges across markets in that procurement, are you able to talk to that at all?

Katrina Rymill

executive
#16

Yes, absolutely. And it's interesting, Mike, you brought that up because the first time it was on about a quarter of our -- we did the one-on-ones last time. In about a quarter, the investors were asking about ESG. So as a topic, it is absolutely coming to the forefront. And when it comes to Equinix, we are very lucky. We started early on to think about particularly the pillars around environmental, social and governance. Kind of turning more to your question around renewables, for us, the environmental pillar, it is all about renewable energy. Energy is 98% of our carbon footprint. And the initial strategy was thinking about, okay, how do we help procure renewable energy to fund what is today over 500,000 U.S. homes' worth of energy that our customers are using? So we were the first data center to set a goal of 100% cleaner renewable energy. Last year, we were at 92% of that goal. And so making -- continue to make progress. Two areas we are looking at is both the composition of that 92%. So how do you continue to improve the mix? So it's about supporting incremental renewables coming out of the market. And then of course, how do you increase to that last part? For APAC, it is tougher. If you look at the split between the 3 regions, APAC is the lowest of the 3 at 75%. I think it's a combination of a little bit more of earlier markets. And the other area is there's -- many markets like Singapore and Japan, there's just not the quantity of land available that you have for, say, a large wind or solar farm. I think the next move you'll see us is in Australia. So it really is a very interesting market to add on the renewable piece. We're looking at on-site solar in some cases. The challenging part, you can't cover the whole load. Usually covers about 5% of the load. But we're looking at supplementing with potentially direct power purchase agreements or VPPAs in markets as well. But expect us to continue to kind of push and expand on the renewable side. And the last piece is for those of you who saw us through the green bonds, you saw us kind of codify our approach not just in renewables but green buildings, energy efficiency and other areas that we're trying to expand into. So we're very excited about the work and scope that's being invested upon in those areas.

Michael Funk

analyst
#17

And are you finding, when procuring renewables, that this cost is higher than traditional power? And I guess if so, are you able to pass it on to your customers? Or does that have a negative margin impact?

Katrina Rymill

executive
#18

It depends on what and where you're procuring it. So for example, in Europe, you're procuring it directly from the grid because more of the grids are renewable there. So inherently, it doesn't actually mean more cost. What we've ultimately liked is for the utility grids themselves to be sourced primarily from renewables. And then you don't have to go through these various structures to support that. Same thing for VPPAs. Inherently, it just depends on how your VPPA is trading because you can both lose or actually gain money off of that. And then RECs, inherently, you are outright purchasing RECs, so there is a cost associated for that. But roughly, Mike, I'd say it's about 1% of our overall costs given those 3 different components right now. And that's -- you wouldn't -- just given the margin we have off of power and space, we don't necessarily charge directly for it. But it is very valuable to customers. We've done over 50 green power reports out to our customers, which is helping them certify the footprint they have with us. And it's becoming more of a requirement since for the supply side essentially for some of these big hyperscalers and networks.

Michael Funk

analyst
#19

Got it. And you're definitely right. I mean investor clients do care a lot more about ESG today than even in -- 12 months ago. So it's great to have that color, Katrina. And I think Jeremy has joined us back again?

Jeremy Deutsch

executive
#20

Yes, Mike, I'm back. Hopefully, the crackling has gone.

Michael Funk

analyst
#21

Yes. No, you sound great now. So thank you. I wanted to follow along with your previous answer to the question that I had. And the question had to do with connectivity. And are there markets in APAC where -- I mean obviously, Equinix as a platform is based on interconnection and obviously connectivity and very high performance. Are there markets where connectivity is more challenging than others?

Jeremy Deutsch

executive
#22

Look, I think there are certainly some markets in APAC where the capability for interconnection is growing. I would put India on that list. So that market, as I mentioned, is a big focus for many of our global customers. Having one location or the ability to connect that platform into a global architecture for organizations, I think, is pretty attractive for them. So I think further development in that market -- and GPX for us was a great acquisition opportunity because they'd already got the fundamentals of having highly interconnected facilities. So they have north of 200 customers, 130 ISPs in that platform. So it gives us a good foundation to start building that highly interconnected architecture. And that's really what our customers are asking for, is making sure that we get all that connectivity into the one location to make it easy for them to deploy their services and deliver their architecture. So yes, I would say that definitely, as you go out of the more established markets, there continues to be opportunity in Asia Pac where people are asking us to help them solve that problem.

Michael Funk

analyst
#23

And I wanted to dig into some of the metrics now if I could.

Jeremy Deutsch

executive
#24

Sure.

Michael Funk

analyst
#25

Equinix reports great comparative metrics across regions, and one of them is the MRR per cabinet. And that fell in APAC in third quarter. Was that purely a function of mix? And what are you seeing in terms of pricing in APAC?

Jeremy Deutsch

executive
#26

Yes. No, appreciate the question. So for us, pricing remains really healthy across the Asia Pac region, and we expect the MRR to continue to remain firm. I think it's important to keep in mind that on a quarterly-by-quarterly basis, there are some fluctuations depending on foreign exchange and installs and churn cadence, et cetera. So the moves on a quarterly-by-quarterly basis probably not necessarily giving you a correct indication of what's going on underlying. If you have a look at the year-on-year numbers for Asia Pac, you're seeing the MRR per cab remains very strong. In actual fact, it's up $100 year-on-year on a reported basis. And we really see that on the back of our customers continuing to leverage the platform and scale across the market. So we're very comfortable with where the pricing is sitting in Asia Pac. In an actual fact, in Q3, when we reported our results, we called out some significant strength in Singapore and Tokyo. And we have some new capacity coming on in Singapore as well in the first quarter. So we see a good opportunity for us to continue to support the market as they -- as customers scale across the platform.

Michael Funk

analyst
#27

And you mentioned there are opportunities on the cross-connects and cross-connects' growth, which lags in absolute numbers relative to the Americas and Europe but growing at a much faster rate. Do you expect to close that gap relative to the Americas and Europe?

Jeremy Deutsch

executive
#28

Yes. Look, I think there's -- as we look at interconnection globally, I think it's approximately 18% of our revenues around the world. And if you're looking at Americas, Americas are seeing about 24% of the revenues coming from interconnection. Asia Pac's at 16%, and EMEA's at 12%. APAC, you're right, is growing very quickly, and we continue to see that opportunity to scale for our customers. Again, in the third quarter, we called out some significant strengths on the back of our Cloud Exchange platform in some of the markets where we're seeing some real adoption there. So that's our virtual cross-connect capability. So just to put it in a frame of reference, we provide both physical cross-connects where a cross-connected cable is run from one location in a data center to another. But now we also have the capability with our Equinix Fabric service to support connectivity to clouds or connectivity between countries, between different parties on that platform as well. And we've been seeing some real pickup there. But if you dig into it a little bit deeper, globally, we've said we have a set of markets -- in actual fact, 14 markets around the world where we have over 10,000 cross-connects in those metros. And in Asia Pac, we have 3 of those. So that's Sydney, Singapore and Tokyo. So you really have that opportunity where we're continuing to scale cross-connects' growth across the region, and we continue to see momentum in that. As far as at what stage do they start to approach other regions, I think that's continued aspiration for us, is to continue to grow and scale and support our customers with cross-connect capability across the region.

Michael Funk

analyst
#29

And I'm sure -- correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that cross-connects, historically, were not so prevalent in Asia as well. It wasn't as much part of the model over in Asia. Are there structural differences in the region that make it more difficult to grow that business? Or are these mostly non-APAC customers that can kind of get the value of the cross-connect, and that's helping to drive the growth as well?

Jeremy Deutsch

executive
#30

So across the Asia Pac region, again, as I'm sure you're aware and many of the investors are, Equinix has completed over 27 acquisitions over the last number of years of operations that we've been in place. With those acquisitions, you come with a slightly different cross-connect model in some of those acquired assets. Obviously, we move to normalize those across the region. But if you look at the very first acquisition in Asia Pac for Equinix, which was Pihana Pacific, they did have, in that level set, the ability for cross-connect. So it has been in the region for a long time. Some of the fundamentals that may be different in the region would be that earlier on, there was a higher prevalence of copper cross-connects in Asia Pac towards fiber cross-connects in other parts of the world. That is gradually starting to phase out. So that's one trend we've been seeing over the last handful of years. I think as far as the opportunity goes with connectivity now, it's really moved to focus on that enterprise cloud connectivity element. And we see that very consistently across the global footprint. So I think we'll continue to see that scaling growth across the Asia Pac footprint just as much as we will in the other regions.

Michael Funk

analyst
#31

And Equinix, generally, highlights the growth from existing customers on the platform across cross-geography customers. And so just wondering if most new logos in-region are regional companies or if they are from customers that are out of region.

Jeremy Deutsch

executive
#32

So again, we get a very good mix there. So across our -- I mentioned some of the stats earlier about the customers that are with us in multiple metros and across multiple regions. So we really help our customers as they're continuing to scale. So if you will, think of the perfect ecosystem in any one of our cities, whether it's in Asia Pac or otherwise, is a really good combination of global network service providers, local network service providers, married up with local systems integrators, cloud service providers as well as global cloud service providers as well as hyperscalers, and then helping to support both branch office locations for global multinationals as well as head office locations for local multinationals or larger enterprises. So it really is a perfect combination in those digital ecosystems that we create, which is why we get such good adoption and capability in the platform because you really get that network effect. Once you have the right number of networks, the right number of cloud connectivity points, it makes it really easy for enterprises to come and deploy. And as you get more and more enterprises, they start connecting with each other as well, and you get that true digital ecosystem. And that's really what we look to create in each one of the markets.

Michael Funk

analyst
#33

And you mentioned Perth 3 earlier. And we had an Australian-based company on yesterday as well, and they were talking about some of their expansion throughout the region. And one thing we were talking about was the population density, right, in Australia and how that affects data center kind of placement or distribution. Does regional population density differences -- does that affect how you think about data center placement in APAC? Or is it similar to North America?

Jeremy Deutsch

executive
#34

Look, I think if we break it up into the region and then cover Australia specifically for a second, I'll just take you through it. I think many of the investors on the call may be from the Asia Pac region. So they're probably well aware. But with Australia, looking at a landmass the size of the United States, with a population of, I think, approximately 10% of the United States, so you have that geographic distribution which needs to be solved for from an application perspective for many different organizations. So being able to have multiple locations across the Australian footprint is particularly important. As you roll that into the region, you look at Singapore. And obviously, one location or one metro of Singapore makes sense. Given the particular layout of Singapore, it's that kind of market. Same for Hong Kong. But it's more about the clusters of population nearby that you're supporting. So Singapore continues to be a really strong regional hub obviously for Indonesia, even for India, for Malaysia, as an example. Hong Kong also is a gateway location for Mainland China. It's a really clear position there. In Japan, we have the situation where you have Tokyo and Osaka, very similar to the dynamics you would see in -- if you went south again between Sydney and Melbourne. Sort of the primary location would be Tokyo, but having the capability for extending that ecosystem and the diversity into Osaka is particularly important. South Korea for us has been really interesting. Very high population density, very digitally capable. So being able to support that in Korea, separate to Japan or Hong Kong as an example, in North Asia, that's been quite important. China, with the capability we have in Shanghai, we see specific use cases that are locating there as well. So it really is quite a focused area to make sure you solve for the customers' needs in each particular location. And the needs may change and their requirements may change depending on what applications they're trying to host and what kind of users they're trying to connect with.

Michael Funk

analyst
#35

And then on your channel partner program in the region, I'm just wondering if the use of channel partners is different over in APAC than it is in some other regions as well.

Jeremy Deutsch

executive
#36

So channel for us globally is now achieving over 30% of our new bookings. And that's very consistent again across the Asia Pac region. And we have a good solid mix there of global channel partners and local channel partners that are helping us do that. And perhaps it's helpful for everybody to understand, one of the key themes about our solution is where the core digital infrastructure. To build on top of core digital infrastructure, you do often need additional solutions, which is what many of our channel partners do. So these could be global systems integrators, global telecommunications providers or local in both of those categories as well. They will sit there and deliver a broader set of solutions for enterprise customers as they're looking to adopt digital infrastructure. But if they're doing that on top of the base platform of Equinix, they're really giving all of those interconnection benefits for those customers upfront, which obviously helps their technical solution and ultimately delivers a better digital transformation for enterprise customers and a repeatable one at that. So we're really seeing our channel partners adopt and embrace the platform and really leverage Equinix Fabric, cloud connectivity, the multiple locations, the repeatability of our platform solutions, which is really making a huge difference for them because it decreases the friction inside their organizations. They don't have to do bespoke infrastructure every time. They can set and forget, leverage the Equinix platform in Singapore. It's exactly the same in Hong Kong. It's exactly the same in Amsterdam. It's exactly the same in New York. That really enables those channel partners to get leverage out of their own sales skills and deeper penetration with their enterprise customers. So we're seeing that really pick up in actual fact. A fair-sized chunk of our new logos or our new customers entering our platform globally are coming through our channel partners. So we're really seeing that acceleration on the channel side, and we expect that to continue both across the Asia Pac region and also globally.

Michael Funk

analyst
#37

And maybe one for Katrina if I could. And you mentioned the GPX acquisition earlier and makes you think back to some of the acquisitions earlier, whether it was Infomart in U.S. or the Verizon assets in the U.S. Is the strategy with APAC the same, Katrina, to acquire these kind of these very network-dense assets? And then assuming that it is, do the valuations look similar to the deals that you did over in North America?

Katrina Rymill

executive
#38

Yes. I would go back to -- if you look at the 27 acquisitions that Jeremy had mentioned that we've done, there's really 2, 3 key themes, right? We're looking -- we typically do acquisitions to enter into new markets. There's been some cases such as South Korea and Melbourne where we built organically. But for the most part, when you go into a new market like Mexico or India, it is through acquisitions. Now ideally, you're marrying that up with buying an interconnected asset, which is why we're particularly excited about the GPX assets over in India where you're entering into a new market with 2 new data centers. They also have already that bulk of interconnection density and switching capacity built into those sites, which is great. The second one you've seen us do is scaling up in a region. So that category I put more in, for example, the Verizon data center acquisitions in North America. You also are trying to scale up, for example, the Bell acquisition through the combination of bulking up in Toronto in new markets or at Telecity, right, a great example of the #1 provider buying the #2 provider. And then maybe the last category is tech acquisitions. The one we've done there is Packet, which is essentially entering into the bare metal arena with a smaller acquisition. So I think those 3 parameters are what we look at globally. I wouldn't expect that strategy to change for APAC. In terms of multiples, I would say regardless of the region, if you're buying an interconnected asset, it will most likely be on the higher side of valuations. And that's what you see versus -- so you tend to see at the, I'd say, 20x plus side if it's an interconnected asset or if it's a larger portfolio, a mix of various assets. We've had some opportunities like with Bell and Verizon where it was more in the 15 turns. So for us, it's a lot about, what value are we getting out of the asset? Who are we competing against? And then there might be things like with Metronode where there was additional land. So that wasn't necessarily -- it didn't show up in the EBITDA multiple, but there was incremental land that we got with that purchase that had options to build that was valuable as well.

Michael Funk

analyst
#39

And I'm actually glad you mentioned Packet, so I don't forget that. Katrina, do you mind taking just some minutes explaining to investors exactly what that acquisition does for Equinix and the product that you're offering to customers?

Katrina Rymill

executive
#40

Yes. I would want to take it a step back and say, you've seen us evolve from being a provider that's really about colocation and cross-connects to being a provider that also thinks about how customers actually consume the service. So there's been an evolution of some of our products to more as-a-service consumption model. So for example, the establishment of Equinix Fabric where now you have virtual connections, it's more dynamic, it's faster. And while we think we can sell cross-connects quickly, you're still literally laying fiber across the room as opposed to Equinix Fabric, you can literally take up and take down connections within minutes. From there, the Equinix Metal and Network Edge product, too, was about a customer wanting to have reach into a newer location, say, where they don't want to necessarily go out and procure the equipment themselves. The environmental service is a great example of having dedicated infrastructure. You can be up and running extremely quickly. And then often customers use that in connecting to the public cloud. So I think it's just kind of expanding the different product offerings and how we sell to customers.

Michael Funk

analyst
#41

No. I think it's a key differentiator, though, too, Katrina. And we hear a lot from the companies that are purely real estate plays. And I think it's important to highlight the difference in the solutions offered and the premium pricing Equinix does get because of the interconnection and the solutions on top of the real estate, right, for the clients. Jeremy, just curious from you and back to the cross-region customers, thinking more about the inflow into Europe and North America. If you're thinking about kind of like a one-to-one type flow level, are you seeing greater demand flowing out of Asia into Europe and North America? Or is it more customers in those regions driving the cross-border demand into APAC?

Jeremy Deutsch

executive
#42

Yes. So Mike, I don't think we break out specifically the flows and the directions. I can tell you, though, that we're seeing really consistent growth both intra-region and outside of the region as far as where our sort of regional-headquartered customers are focused. So if you take China, for example, many of the Chinese organizations are looking to scale out across the Asia Pac region into some of the key markets there to support South Asia and even West Asia as you look at India as well. Certainly, they're also interested in EMEA. So maybe a little bit less interested in the U.S. at the moment. But we're seeing really consistent trends as we look across the region with organizations really growing across the region and then looking at the global locations. And that's the real benefit of the platform. You've got that situation where organizations can really take advantage of either staying inside region or continuing to grow out in the global scale. And we're definitely seeing that in all directions. And that really comes back in those stats that I mentioned right upfront about how many of our customers are with us across multiple regions and then how many customers are with us in multiple cities. So you're really seeing that advantage of the platform. I couldn't sort of more -- highlight it more clearly for you. You mentioned there that other providers really just provide the space and power and maybe point locations only. The key differentiator with Equinix is it's truly a platform that companies will leverage multiple times in multiple locations and then interconnect those locations together. So it's a completely different solution set than just placing equipment somewhere to keep it safe.

Michael Funk

analyst
#43

No. I think it's an important distinction to make as well. To what do you attribute the less demand out of region in the U.S. versus Europe from APAC customers? What drives that?

Jeremy Deutsch

executive
#44

Sorry, can you repeat that question again?

Michael Funk

analyst
#45

Yes. I thought you said that you were seeing less intra-region demand in the Americas and APAC customers than you are in Europe. And I'm just wondering why that is given the size of the market, largest data center market in the world obviously economically. Just wondering why you're seeing less cross-border demand in the U.S. if that's what you did say.

Jeremy Deutsch

executive
#46

Yes, sorry, sorry. Yes, I probably joined a couple of dots there that weren't necessarily correct. So let me just clarify. So I was speaking specifically on that one with regards to China and where Chinese organizations might be interested in going. I think we understand some of the dynamics that might [ be in effect ] there. I think if you look at the broader Asia Pac, we're seeing very consistent trends flows into North America, into Europe and across the Asia Pac region. So nothing untoward or strange there. As I said, the only callout I would put in there for obvious reasons is probably that China dynamic. But I think that's well understood by everybody.

Michael Funk

analyst
#47

And is there -- I mean just in your opinion, is there an expectation that could change just given the changing climate over in the U.S.?

Jeremy Deutsch

executive
#48

Look, I'm certainly not an expert to make commentary on geopolitical situation. But I will say that our customers are really focused on leveraging the platform into new markets. So we continue to get organizations across the world, looking to see how we can help them do that. And connectivity between the regions is really important to them. The connectivity to the cloud service providers is very important to them. The repeatability of the platform is very important to them. So I guess we're set up on the digital infrastructure label -- digital infrastructure layer to support it. And we continue to do that for as many organizations as possible across the region.

Michael Funk

analyst
#49

Sure. And maybe one for Katrina, too, and maybe actually both of you. You've announced several of your hyperscale JVs, I think, mostly targeted at Europe, Katrina. Is that going to be an expanding strategy over in Asia as well?

Katrina Rymill

executive
#50

Yes. So we started with Europe, and again, we're continuing to add to that JV and pleased with how it's progressing. We also announced xScale JV with GIC again out of Japan, which we actually [ closed here in the quarterly ]. So I think you're seeing an expansion there. I mean most likely we are going to look at other opportunities beyond those 2 specific JVs. Now again, the reason you can't necessarily go full board all at once is it takes quite a bit of effort to set these up. So you're kind of focusing on one area, which is the Japan JV, while exploring other opportunities. I would say the initial view is the JVs will be weighted more towards EMEA and APAC. I think there's inherently more opportunity, more differentiation in how we tie together the larger footprint in the retail side at least to start with. And then we'll continue to kind of explore other markets over time as well. But I think it's an important strategy to help ourselves be able to address the larger market opportunity with -- particularly with the hyperscalers. So it's been helpful to have this much larger footprint offering and to be able to build and architect and sell as such rather than trying to have a blended retail offering to provide to those specific hyperscalers.

Michael Funk

analyst
#51

And do you expect a similar structure to future JVs that you have with GIC today? Or do you expect that to change?

Katrina Rymill

executive
#52

I think we'll have to look at it. We absolutely enjoy working with GIC. They're a very good partner for us. But it's not to say that we will use them on every JV, which means we will be ideally looking at how do we work with more partners there. So I would say TBD at this point. But I think we're quite happy with kind of the current way we've been structuring it.

Michael Funk

analyst
#53

Understood. We have about 5 minutes left. And maybe a chance to try to kind of take it back a little bit higher level to some of the corporate targets and guidance that are out there, just kind of talking about the revenue guidance expectation for margin expansion, not 4Q, kind of standard guidance for 4Q but longer term, and then your AFFO per share target expectations. Just kind of give you a chance to bring it back to a higher level.

Katrina Rymill

executive
#54

Yes. I would definitely direct folks back to our earnings call. And what you heard on there is continuing to feel very good about the resiliency and the robustness of our business. If I take investors back to kind of the start of the year, as we progress through the year despite the pandemic, despite everything that's happening, we -- as we said on the last call when we guided, if you look at kind of where we're coming in at, it's pretty close to where we started the year from an expectations perspective. So it just shows you see MRR per cabinet, the pricing remained firm. Churn is where we thought it would be. Overall, a very strong, resilient and diverse business, which is fantastic. You're seeing, not surprising, outweighting growth on the regions. So APAC, continuing in the low mid-teens. EMEA also low mid-teens. And then Americas coming up just a notch up to 5%, and I think we'd like to see it kind of trend around that 5%. It's a little bit lower than that earlier this year, but we continue to feel good about the -- particularly the gross production on bookings going into that region. Charles also talked about the longer-term margin target. So we are very cognizant of that, continue to be committed to 50%. I think it's always a balance. You always hear us talking about in the fall. We're literally in the middle of budgeting right now, looking at where the investment opportunities, balance against the scale of the business and then what do we want to deliver back to investors. And we look forward to providing a little bit more color around that on the next call.

Michael Funk

analyst
#55

And you open up an Analyst Day sometime in 2021 as well. Is that correct?

Katrina Rymill

executive
#56

Yes, yes. We're definitely going to host most likely a virtual-physical Analyst Day. So we're going to host an event. Still figuring out if we could do it in person, but that's looking a little bit less likely.

Michael Funk

analyst
#57

I don't want to hold you to it. But yes.

Katrina Rymill

executive
#58

But yes, that is set up for June 2021.

Michael Funk

analyst
#59

Perfect. And maybe just with one more high-level question. And it's one I've asked everyone. I understand you guys don't deal in megawatts and millions of leasing per quarter but certainly have a view on the market and demand. And so I'm just kind of curious for 2021 for the total industry, not Equinix, total industry, and if you think that demand in megawatts is going to be higher, lower or the same versus 2020.

Katrina Rymill

executive
#60

I would say I don't have a specific view onto that. I think we, frankly, have such a specific total addressable market that we go after that we are very focused on the retail side. Jeremy, I don't -- I mean I know the wholesalers have continued to have a very good year. And then I know digital is already and some of the other providers continue to give some softer guidance out there. But Jeremy, I don't know if you have thoughts on the broader market.

Jeremy Deutsch

executive
#61

Yes. Look, I would probably just add to that, that digital transformation, if it wasn't on the register for CIOs at enterprise organizations, it certainly is after this year. So we're continuing to see really strong conversations, momentum as organizations are quickly transforming it and leveraging their digital platform properly. So we certainly see that on the retail side into 2021. I wouldn't make a comment with regards to the hyperscale or the wholesale-type model.

Michael Funk

analyst
#62

Sure. And just for the record, I received emphatic higher from almost everyone else that I asked, but clearly, companies that are more hyperscale focused. So I think expectations are certainly very bullish for 2021 for the entire industry. But wanted to thank Jeremy again for being with us here, very, very kind with your time. And Katrina, thank you so much. Happy Thanksgiving to you, Katrina. And look forward to speaking soon.

Katrina Rymill

executive
#63

Thanks, Mike. Appreciate you hosting us both.

Jeremy Deutsch

executive
#64

Happy Thanksgiving, Mike.

Michael Funk

analyst
#65

Okay. Take care.

Katrina Rymill

executive
#66

Bye.

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