Equinix, Inc. (EQIX) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
June 6, 2023
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Aryeh Klein
analystAll right. Thank you all for joining us. I'm Aryeh Klein, data center analyst at BMO. Pleased to have Equinix presenting here. And to my left is Simon Miller, Chief Accounting Officer at Equinix. Maybe if you can just give a brief introduction on yourself and then we'll kind of kick off the Q&A.
Simon Miller
executiveYes, you bet. So I've been at Equinix for about 12 years, started supporting Charles Meyers, who was then President of the Americas. He went on to be the COO and now the CEO of the company. Spent another 5 years supporting Karl Strohmeyer, who is more recently the CRO at the company. I've spent time in region as the Americas' Finance VP, running commercial aspects of deal review, accounting, billing, credit collection, and financial planning. And since taking over as CAO for the last 5 years, it's been more of a journey about globalizing the entire finance function. So spend a little less on the commercial side of the business, but a ton of time in leadership meetings talking about the strategy, how we're pursuing and how we're delivering against those expectations. So long time, seeing the company grow quite a bit back, and we used to talk about what you got to believe -- in 2011, you used to talk about what you got to believe to get this to a $3 billion a year company and here we are 12 years later sitting at about $8.2 billion. So tremendous journey.
Aryeh Klein
analystThanks for that. And for those unfamiliar, maybe if you can provide a bit of an overview of Equinix, what differentiates the company and why investors should consider investing in Equinix today?
Simon Miller
executiveYes. Sure. While we're a traditional REIT in a lot of senses, we're not traditional in terms of our overall business plan. We think of Equinix, its data centers and its suite of digital services more as a platform. We focused really since day 1 on our founding on network neutral interconnection. And so you hear us talk a lot about the value of interconnection. And what that means for us, when we're building out business cases for development of new properties, is this good -- you want to disclose -- when we're evaluating new projects, we really focus on what type of interconnection density can we drive and expanding on that. So we don't build a ton of data centers with a lot of density and megawatts. We focus on access to PoPs and the critical applications that are low latency sensitive for our customers. And we found through churn rates over the years that those types of deployments are the most sticky, and that's why customers come to Equinix, its access to the carriers, access to the Internet, nowadays access to cloud providers and on-ramps, in the future probably access to AI as well. But through all of the waves of digital transformation across the industry, I would say that Equinix has played a key role in the delivery of those services.
Aryeh Klein
analystGot it. So globally, Equinix has data centers in 71 metros, in 32 countries. What are some of the benefits of having the global platform? And how is Equinix thinking about expanding further in international markets? And maybe what are some of those markets that you could look to enter?
Simon Miller
executiveYes, for sure. That's a great question. So the benefits are that when you look at our customer base, the majority of our customers are greater than $150 million in revenue. A lot of our customers, greater than 65%, are -- utilize our entire regional platform as well. And most of them -- most of our customers are at least what I would say is multimarket. So the more that we globalize, the more ability that we have to capture market share or wallet share for our customers as they expand globally. And most of the time when we expand into new markets, it's because a customer has been asking us for a couple of years that that's where they want to pin the flag on the map for their next deployment. So we spend a ton of time talking to our customers, but not just talking to our customers because they would tell you they want you everywhere globally that they even maybe aren't even thinking of being today. But we always cross-reference that with availability of power and availability of the telco -- telecommunications infrastructure there. Because, again, it all ties back to our strategy of being the platform of interconnection to deliver, not just colocations but a host of digital services on top of that. And to do that, you need access to power, you need access to space expansion and really good physical infrastructure. So with a lot of the dynamics going on in Asia, you'll hear us talk about continuing our investments in like Indonesia, in Malaysia and in India. A lot of our customers for years have been asking us to look into those locations and given some of the power constraints and other constraints in Hong Kong and Singapore were kind of speeding that up a little bit. Africa, South Africa, we recently announced an investment in Joburg. We'll probably continue to look in West Africa. We don't have anything specific, but again, more customer questions and requests for us to explore there. And then some -- maybe a little less important, but I'd say equally strategic is Latin America.
Aryeh Klein
analystGot it. And when you're looking to grow the platform internationally or just a platform overall, how do you balance organic growth with M&A?
Simon Miller
executiveYes, that's a good question.
Aryeh Klein
analystHow do you choose between the two? How are you thinking about that?
Simon Miller
executiveWhen we're going into an entirely new geography and entirely new market, we prefer to buy our way in, quite honestly, and keep that management team on board for a longer-than-normal integration period, so not just a couple of months, right? We really want to leverage their local knowledge. We want to leverage their existing contract structure and really just how to do business locally. In some of the markets that we're getting into, it's not as crystal clear as maybe some of the traditional markets that we've gotten into in Europe and certainly in the U.S. And there's not like a bright line of like here is when you get your access to power, here's when this permit clears. And so having that local expertise is just hugely important. And I expect that we'll continue to do that. And we've made a couple of, what I'd say, are small bets, but like if you look at what we just announced in Johor, we're really leveraging off of our local team. You could throw a rock and basically hit the new development site compared to where our existing Singapore assets are. So where we can leverage the local talent and that's already in place in Equinix, we'll continue to do that. But it would definitely -- it's definitely our preference when we are going into new geographies to acquire our way in there and then maintain management for a period of time.
Aryeh Klein
analystGot it. Is the strategy the same in the xScale piece of the business? I think there, you pretty much, you've leveraged your JV partners and you've grown organically, could M&A ever be a part of that piece of the business?
Simon Miller
executiveFor sure. Yes. I think it could be. It's going to depend on the multiples that are out there right now. Some of the multiples on the sell side are still in excess of what the public multiples are. But once that sort of evens out, I would expect that we would look at that type of expansion the same way that we do on the retail side of the business.
Aryeh Klein
analystGot it. Taking a step back, how the demand drivers for the data center business evolved over the years? And to what extent will those be different over the next few years?
Simon Miller
executiveYes. Boy, AI comes to mind. That's a new one. We have yet to see how that materializes at a project level for Equinix directly. I mean there's a lot of heat going to the hardware vendors right now as I think people queue up to make sure that they're getting whatever allocations of chipsets, GPUs and other hardware. But gosh, Web 1.0, then Web 2.0 and then the increase to cloud, these are all just huge shifts in the market where Equinix was at the right place at the right time with the right suite of services to deliver against those applications. I think we got a little bit more of a boost unexpectedly from the pandemic as well. That kind of -- the digital transformation, I think, that's going on right now in the enterprise is as big a one, as I've seen since I've been at Equinix. And boy, back about 8 years, 10 years ago, it was a little bit cloudy, and we were wondering where we existed in that space because there were a lot of companies that were founded in the 4 walls of Equinix. Companies like Facebook or Yahoo! that deployed their own hardware inside of Equinix. But that was back when they were getting Series A funding in the hundreds of millions of dollars. And now investors are investing in the tens of millions of dollars and people are leveraging cloud-based architectures to deliver that stuff. That was a threat to our business model at the time. So we invested heavily and focused heavily on focusing on the enterprise's transformation in that digital world and pursuing as many cloud on-ramps as possible and cable landing stations as possible. So that no matter what, it still came down to delivering an interconnection platform that provided value, not just for the cloud or other SaaS providers or IaaS providers but also for the enterprise. Well, you fast forward here another almost 10 years, and enterprise bookings relative to what they were 10 years ago are an immense increase for us. And it's the other side of now investing in that hybrid cloud model, which is now the flywheel is going and you're seeing companies like SAP or Oracle, they're no longer signing on-prem licenses for their software. They're moving everybody to cloud-based architectures. That means they're going to have to move all their boundary systems in some way, shape or form to that cloud-based architecture and Equinix is getting an unfair advantage of that. And I think we saw a little bit of an acceleration of that during the pandemic as well as more folks were looking to ensure that a big chunk of their workforce could be serviced remotely.
Aryeh Klein
analystGot it. You briefly mentioned AI. It's clearly emerged as a pretty big theme more recently. How is Equinix positioned to capitalize on some of the AI trends? How early days are we? And within your business, where do you see the most opportunity? Would it be on the retail colo side or maybe on xScale?
Simon Miller
executiveYes. It still feels very early, although I will say this pressure wave feels a little more ubiquitous than other recent trends like 5G or edge data centers and edge computing. It feels like everyone is going to participate, whether it's the hyperscalers doing offerings or the enterprise utilizing those offerings and creating their own unique brands of AI for either their own customer set or internal use. But it's still early in terms of seeing how it's all going to be sort of framework and projectized. I think there's a run on the hardware stuff early on here and then there is a fair amount of training that needs to happen at the bot level for a period of time before something is released to production, whether that's for internal use or external use. I still think there's a lot to figure out there. But whether it's a training module or inference, I feel like Equinix is uniquely positioned to take advantage of that in either case. On the training side, that's heavy compute and storage. It's more likely that we'll deliver an xScale solution in that world. And with -- given our focus on the top hyperscalers in the world, we'll have as good a shot, if not a better shot than others, at taking down the business that we see as strategic in that space. Not every opportunity that's out there, but ones that we think are viable and long term. And then when we get to a larger portion of delivery being inference, I think that Equinix will again get its -- an unfair share of the opportunities out there, just simply because of how interconnected we are and the fact that however you deploy that final solution for AI, it's going to need low latency and proximity to the carriers and to other service providers in the data center to ensure that you get the best throughput and. In those situations Equinix wins, right? I mean it's just -- that's been our mantra since our founding, and it's been a huge driving force in our strategy holistically.
Aryeh Klein
analystSpecifically, how it happens so...
Simon Miller
executiveI don't know. Check back in a year, something tells me that this will all actually materialize a lot faster than maybe other paradigms have. It seems like there's a lot of money and momentum behind it. And I think there's a lot of enterprises specifically looking to get scale and leverage out of AI. And in a world of increasing interest rates and inflation, that's just going to be even more of a catalyst to see things happen here.
Aryeh Klein
analystAre you seeing those types of deals kind of start flowing through the pipeline? Or is it even too early to talk about.
Simon Miller
executiveYes. It's a little too early. I think you're seeing a lot of banter about stuff like a potential deal that might show up. But it is entirely possible though that like when we're talking about leasing large swaths of xScale footprint right now to hyperscalers that really were talking to their infrastructure team, and it's hugely possible that embedded inside of that is some portion of that infrastructure that's going to be dedicated to AI. And they may not even know what it is. But if it's delivering some amount of a global SaaS office type of -- or office type applications to the extent that they embed AI in that in the future, it could totally be on the table.
Aryeh Klein
analystGot it. On the demand side, it's been pretty healthy record or near record bookings for a number of quarters in a row here. How sustainable is that in a tougher macro backdrop? We've heard cloud providers talking about slowing consumption in their businesses. How does that impact Equinix and what's the outlook of this?
Simon Miller
executiveYes, we're definitely seeing customers sharpen their pencil a little bit and as Charles likes to say, they're measuring twice and cutting once. But the overall pipeline still looks very healthy. We're seeing a few things slip but no degradation or stuff falling out. And I've said this a lot today and when I've met with investors in the past, like the digital transformation for enterprises, it's done. It's happening. There's a -- I mean it's just very hard to find on-prem licenses for anything anymore. Whether it's Infrastructure as a Service or Software as a Service, you have to have a hybrid cloud strategy going forward to either service your end users and customers or your internal end users and customers. And so there's still a long tail on that. It's still very easy. I mean if you're -- we're an Oracle shop internally. I just -- I got the notice 2 years ago. And every other customer that's on Oracle got to notice 2 years ago. And it's a specific negotiation with Oracle, how long you stay on the on-prem stuff? And if you're slower, thankfully, we were a little ahead. We started converting a lot of our applications to be cloud-ready like a year earlier. So we were anticipating that Oracle would come to us. But there are other companies that they may have gotten that notice and they were caught flat-footed. And so they're starting their journey a little later. So they're still -- gosh, it's hard for me to even look beyond 5 years and say it's going to slow down there because it's going to enhance over time. And once you build -- let's say, you have to replace an ERP and get that cloud rig. Now you got to focus on all the boundary systems to make sure that not only do they work with that cloud solution, but that they scale with it, and that's -- there's going to be a lot of try and buy solutions out there and there's going to be winners and losers on those boundary systems. But all of that is going to -- it's going to end up with being some portion of the critical infrastructure for every enterprise to be in or adjacent to Equinix.
Aryeh Klein
analystOkay. And then on the cross-connect side, we have seen net adds come in a little bit. What's kind of driving that? How do you think about just the overall demand backdrop for cross-connect and interconnection overall? And I think we've seen some grooming taking place. Are we at kind of trough levels?
Simon Miller
executiveHard to predict that because there are so many influencers going on right now. Macroeconomically, that's a big one in volatility. I would say even though we don't disclose -- give a number externally, the gross adds continue to be really healthy and strong. We look at overall traffic on the Internet -- Ethernet exchange as well, and that continues to be extremely robust. So other than how it all nets out, we're still seeing good leading indicators that it continues to be a strength of the business. I would say that given some of the probably budget challenges that some of the companies have relative to inflation, they're probably looking a little bit harder at their footprint. So some grooming related to that, just general cost cutting and consolidation of internal footprints. And then on top of that, we have M&A and people grooming as it relates to integrations on that side. And then just transfer from like 100 megabytes to 10 gigabit for instance and aggregation points on that. You buy one piece of glass where you needed maybe 5 before -- or fiber optic connection, sorry.
Aryeh Klein
analystKeith likes to talk a lot about the net positive pricing actions in the business. Can you just talk a little bit about the pricing levers that you have? How much opportunity you see in the business to continue to push pricing maybe where you see the most opportunity? And is there -- has there been pushback just in this backdrop on some of those increases that you have pushed through?
Simon Miller
executiveYes, we're always very sensitive for those who follow us, we just did a very large power price adjustment on our customers, primarily in Europe. And so there's still a lot of sensitivity out there in the market giving better than $350 million of revenue just from that one thing. But we generally like to increase prices kind of subtly across various markets over a period of time. We have the luxury of having shorter contract terms than traditional wholesalers. So it's not -- we don't sign like a 15- or a 20-year lease with our customers. We generally sign them up for a 3 to 5 years on the initial contract. If they -- if we don't do a stated renewal, it auto renews for another year. At any point in time upon renewal, given specific market level dynamics and what competition is doing and prices locally, when we get to a renewal spot, we'll raise prices. But given the overall economic conditions that are going on right now and globally across the entire Equinix platform, we've seen roughly about 10% inflationary impacts. In some areas, it spiked higher. In some areas, it's a little bit lower. But we've already adjusted, for instance, list prices on new deals. But we carry like 92% of our revenue in any period -- annual period from the previous year's MRR jump off. So it takes a while for those new deals filtered in and be felt through the entire base of MRR. But as those new deals get signed up, we'll adjust pricing. As we go through and do renewals, you'll see this in the positive pricing actions that Keith likes to talk about. You'll see it happen there. But it will be more of a feathering in where you look like 5 years down the road, and the entire footprint is rightsized to what the current economic conditions are, but will always lag a little bit just because so much of our base is coming in from prenegotiated deals. In some markets, we're tied to CPI indexes and in others, we just have similar to a traditional real estate lease. We might have a stated price increase on space somewhere from like 3% to 5%, but we always get an opportunity after like, call it, 3 years to renegotiate everything.
Aryeh Klein
analystI think in Q1, same store revenue growth was 7%. How are you thinking about that metric? Is that a reasonable level that you can continue to grow at? Does it moderate a little bit? I think historically, maybe been a little bit lower than that?
Simon Miller
executiveYes. Historically, it's been lower. I mean, as we have more assets enter that stabilized tier, I mean, they're generally some of our stronger assets, quite honestly. I think there's an equal opportunity for that to continue to grow, especially as we enhance some of those offerings with digital services. But yes, I mean, overall, I think it's reflective of a strong business model. Putting the right applications in there, signing people up, getting renewals and gaining efficiencies at the asset level.
Aryeh Klein
analystIs there a region where you think you have the most opportunity to push pricing higher? I think EMEA probably lags the other 2 regions?
Simon Miller
executiveYes. Just from a practical standpoint, we just dropped so many PIs on them for power. It would just -- it would be psychological at that point to come in and hit them over the head with space as well. So I'd probably say we'll feather it in more over in EMEA. Between Asia and the U.S., it's really a hodgepodge and it comes down to the metro level and how network dense a facility is, who do we have competing with us in region, in market there. Nothing I would point to that says one is specifically better than the other.
Aryeh Klein
analystGot it. If anyone in the audience has any questions, we can take.
Unknown Analyst
analystYou said that you are more connected player of the [indiscernible] digital hyperscale, you get tangential benefit from that? Or are they able to do that just on their own?
Simon Miller
executiveYes. So just for those watching on webcast question, and correct me if I'm wrong, is with all of the continued activity of hyperscalers, do we see our core business model, I'm assuming around retail, getting tangential benefit from that? And yes, the answer is absolutely. Most of what the hyperscalers are doing, I mean, and they build, by the way, their own data centers with land that they bought on their own, much more they buy from us or our competitors, quite honestly. I mean they build footprints that, in many cases, are like half the size of what Equinix has built entire history in one year. But it's a game of optimization for them as well. There are some markets where it's easy for them to utilize somebody to go do all the permitting and get the allocation of power because they just don't have the resources. So they're always doing an optimization game. And I would say the way we look at it is how many of the on-ramps are we getting from these folks? How many markets do we have all 5 of the players out there that are offering cloud on-ramps? Because that's where the enterprises and the users are going to engage with not just the hyperscalers, but other SaaS and IaaS providers as well.
Unknown Analyst
analystJust a question on maybe the largest data center market in the country is around DC. And what the -- what you see are the threats or concerns going forward? And then also regarding the power and getting power to your site?
Simon Miller
executiveYes, sure. So the question was, what do we see as a potential threat around power to the DC campus? I'd say -- the good news there is if anyone has ever seen a bird's eye view of D.C. in Loudoun County in general, you'll see that Equinix is actually just this little small thing in the middle of it all and the power consumers for the big deployments are actually radiating out all around Equinix. Look, there -- I think we're working on a host of opportunities to ensure we've got power continuity for long term there. I think that the local folks in government understand the importance of Equinix to that overall ecosystem and how much revenue it drive -- tax revenue, it drives and jobs that it drives for everyone there locally. We have a very, very big voice there. And I think we have a lot of relationships going all the way back 25 years in our history. So while there are some specifics that not really -- I can't really discuss here, I would say that we're always looking for ways to ensure that we've got that continuity and we'll probably end up in a relatively good position compared to others in the space.
Aryeh Klein
analystMaybe up there.
Unknown Analyst
analystIs the potential recession could harm your business and forecast and [indiscernible]
Simon Miller
executiveYes. So the question is, could the pending recession here potentially harm the business and lower occupancy rates? I think the biggest thing that we've seen so far is that it's maybe extending sales cycles a little bit. So much of our focus and investment has been around interconnection, hybrid cloud, hyperscalers getting on-ramps to the cloud. And as I mentioned earlier, the digital transformation for enterprises is here, and it's here to stay. There's a lot of external forces from vendors that are just going to make that happen. So for me, it's not -- we're going to win the deals we would have won anyway. It's just the specific timing. I think in the short term, you're seeing a little bit of belt tightening, people sharpening their pencils, making sure that they're allocating capital investments appropriately across their portfolio of investments. But the deals that need to be close to cloud on-ramps, that need to be close to service providers, we're going to get those. It's going to happen. It just may take a little bit longer.
Unknown Analyst
analystSo there was this concern out there that some of the big cloud providers may carve out their own connection for their own customers at least with out there. It hasn't come to pass so far, but how do you ensure that it doesn't happen? Is it the technology you provide? Or just like saying or is it the optimizing over the whole business?
Simon Miller
executiveYes. So question is, will hyperscalers kind of replicate the interconnection platform that we have and go direct to their customers? Look, they offer today a host of connection products, quite honestly. But in the world that we live in, I think, long term, where there's no provider that has a 100% of every solution, I just don't think that you can build a -- a walled garden around all of that, right? And you think of some of the cloud providers' biggest partners out there that's not -- they can't tighten down the interconnection. And I think overall, large enterprises are going to need and want access to other service providers within our data center or just within their own topography. And so while there might be opportunities for the hyperscalers to do that, it's hard for me to see them doing that in a way that's ubiquitous, that really chokes out competition from other service providers in general. And we're kind of selling pickaxes and shovels during the gold rush, everybody can win. We're happy when everyone wins. And I think it's better overall for the consumer and for competition in general.
Aryeh Klein
analystI'll squeeze one more in just on the balance sheet. It's in good shape, low leverage. What are the company's capital allocation priorities moving forward?
Simon Miller
executiveYes. We're going to continue to be balanced. We've got a lot of cash on the balance sheet right now, but we also have more expansion projects than at any time in our history. So we got a lot of checks to write here in the next 12 months. But yes, I think we're -- our strategy is going to be balanced. We'll take down debt when it's accretive to AFFO per year. We'll take down equity when that's accretive to AFFO per share. We're viewed a little bit differently than a traditional REIT from the rating agencies. So we're constantly fighting a battle there to get to get improved leverage ratios, and we'll keep doing that. But I could see us over time maybe limiting the amount of cash we keep on balance sheet. We'll continue to also look for creative ways just given our global platform and ability to take down debt internationally, we'll continue to do that. So like you just saw with our Japanese yen offering that gives us the ability to fund a lot of expansion projects in and around Asia, and we'll take advantage of that. Hard to move that money around globally, but where there's other opportunities that are similar to what we saw in Japan, you will see us do that as well.
Aryeh Klein
analystGreat. I think that's a good place to wrap it up. Thanks, Simon.
Simon Miller
executiveThank you, Aryeh. I appreciate it.
Aryeh Klein
analystThank you.
Simon Miller
executiveThank you.
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