FedEx Corporation (FDX) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
July 23, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeHey, everybody. Welcome to our live virtual event. We are going to be talking today about doing more IT with less, economizing and innovating today's IT organization. We have a fantastic keynote to start us off. I'm really excited about this. In a moment, I'll introduce Rob Carter. He's the CIO of FedEx. We're going to be talking about some of the interesting things that FedEx is doing to get through the current challenges and looking ahead and how information technology is going to be helping the company. Before we do get to that, I just have a couple of things I wanted to get through. Please remember to turn off any of the pop-up blockers that you may have on your screen so that you get a good performance here. If you have any technical problems throughout, if you lose sound or whatever the case maybe, just type your issue into the Q&A window there, and somebody from our team will take care of that. So I am Brian Gillooly. I am the Content Director of Data Center World, and I'm joined today across this entire event by all my colleagues in the enterprise IT group of Informa Tech that includes folks from Data Center Knowledge, Data Center World, Interop, InformationWeek, ITPro Today -- boy, I hope I'm getting them all -- Omdia. But we have just an entirely huge amount of brain power ready to meet up with you in the zones later on after the keynote. And also one more thing. We do have group chats for you to be a part of if you'd like to. We have 2 places you can go. One is the lobby, and you can chat with people in the lobby, or you go to 1 of 4 zones, and you'll see those designated in our zone area. And if you want to have particularly specific conversations on topic -- on different technology topics, go to those zones, and you'll be able to chat with people there as well. So let's kick things off. We're going to be talking to Rob Carter and some of the innovations that are going on at FedEx. Rob and I have known each other, God, Rob, 25 years, I think, now. And he has been the CIO at FedEx, I just learned 20 years now, just this past June, the CIO at FedEx for 20 years. Before that, he was the CTO. And I think, Rob, you're one of the rare people in the industry. And I remember that old adage about CIOs only being there for 1.5 years on average. You've been at it 20 years. And I might point out, too, this is very important. When I was with InformationWeek, we had our annual Elite 100 survey, and we decided 1 year to look back 10 years and see which companies ranked the highest in our Elite 100 over the past 10 years, in other words, showing consistency. FedEx ranked #1 out of all the companies that had been in that survey over the past 10 years, and Rob Carter was the CIO for all 10 of those years. So I think that's a testament to the gentleman who's about to chat with us here in our fireside chat. So Rob, welcome here.
Robert Carter
executiveWell, you're clearly dating this, Brian. We both are a little worse for wear and tear over all these years, but it's really been fun watching the industry grow and change these years, applying technology in unique ways for business results. And Brian's one of those people that ask me to do something, and I dwell on it for about a nanosecond and say okay because I just can't say no to, Brian.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeThank you very much. And by the way, we all appreciate it. We were very excited to find out that you were available to do this, so thank you so much.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeSo let's get started. One of the things that I wanted to talk to you about, we'll cover the gamut of different things. But let's start off with any changes in your approach to IT delivery and implementation because of the COVID challenge. Has anything really changed dramatically? Or is it kind of business as usual from a planning and implementation standpoint?
Robert Carter
executiveWell, let's talk about the what and the how just a little bit. The what has been really interesting. I'm not sure if we're lucky or good, but we had been spending a tremendous amount of energy and time and resource in our company preparing for the growth of e-commerce, preparing for onslaughts of volume as e-commerce becomes a bigger and bigger part of how consumers receive goods at their home. That was certainly pre-COVID and pre this world that we find ourselves in. So it was particularly interesting to see all of that work come to fruition. We had expanded our networks from 5 days to 6 days to 7 days of operation; and with that, the technology really had to be adapted to a world that's always on 24/7, not a lot of patching windows or maintenance windows or things like that. So the what we had been deploying was really unchanged as the onslaught came about of coronavirus and work from home. Now the how we were doing, it has changed a lot. We obviously had to send everyone home. Our work-from-home workforce and IT is -- everyone is at home worldwide on our IT teams right now, including the third parties that support us or about 97%, 98% of them. But in the case of our business, we sent almost 100,000 people home not just in IT but across the enterprise to work from home. And fortunately, our agile methods in our CICD pipelines and the critical ways that we had learned to deliver technology in a more spontaneous and responsive way paid off big during that time.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeSo as an example for some of our attendees who are looking for insight and ideas and whatnot, there was no knee-jerk reaction, no panic or anything like that, that happened at FedEx. It was -- we've already got our building blocks in place. Let's just change a little bit with how we go about doing this.
Robert Carter
executiveYes. I think we surprised ourselves, though, at the speed with which we were able to deploy. I mean we emptied out every call center. We emptied out all of our inside sales, team members, finance, marketing, audit, you name it, around the world. All those folks went home. And we recently got a survey back that -- from all those people that we surveyed and the responses we got back, 96% of them said that they were properly equipped with the tools and technology that they needed to do their job in a work-from-home environment. Frankly, I laugh about that a little bit if we had surveyed them while they were sitting in their desk at work, we've gotten about an 8%, "Yes, we got what we need." But the reality is, is they felt well equipped as they went home. We had to do some pretty quick things. So we were in the middle of an Okta implementation for multifactor authentication and Zero Trust. And actually, the CEO of Okta was on CNN (sic) [ CNBC ] yesterday with Cramer talking about FedEx and the implementation because we pulled it forward 2 months. We did 2 months' worth of work. We're already in the midst of the rollout when we started, but we just accelerated it big time and equipped the team to be much more secure at home too because that was a big concern of ours.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeIt's interesting -- when you talk about that accelerating a project, it's interesting. If you can give us some more examples of how you adjusted projects -- the theme of this event is doing more IT with less, and we assume a lot of companies were pulling back on their budgeting. Not necessarily the case for you. In fact, a friend of ours, Mike Cuddy, who's the CIO of Toromont, he actually said they accelerated the spending in some of the areas to get projects done sooner. So can you give us some examples of what FedEx has done in terms of either accelerating or pulling back on projects?
Robert Carter
executiveYes. I think it was more a matter of -- the word crisis, actually, its Greek root kind of means "to sift through things." And so what happened more than accelerated spending was we sifted through the things that we were doing, and we found ourselves much more focused on the things that were most critical. The things that are most critical clearly rose to the top as we were adjusting our networks around the world, and I don't mean our data in telecommunications networks. I mean our aircraft and vehicles and because -- while 100,000 team members were home, we had a couple hundred thousand of them out there serving the world at a very critical time. We were bringing PPN from China. We were serving people in their homes in ways that were vital as they were in work-from-home and sheltered home orders to stay at home. So we had a really important societal role to play, and it was important for us to be able to rapidly shift our networks, our aircraft alignment, fire up charters as this is an important part about how the world changed. Obviously, the passenger airliners pulled down an awful lot of routes and flights. And so that left airfreight, especially critical airfreight, much of which often rides in the underbellies of passenger airliners really on our shoulders. So we had to put a lot of extra capacity in place. And there's a lot of technology and a lot of work to do to make sure that those airline flights -- at FedEx, trucks don't roll and sorts don't sort and airplanes don't fly without the kind of central nervous system represented by the technology that keeps track of where everything is and how it needs to move.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeSo could you describe then to -- like every company has a business continuity plan or disaster recovery plan. A lot of the IT executives I've spoken with in the past 3 or 4 months said, yes, we -- everybody does, and everybody plans for just about every contingency. I can't get anybody to say, yes, we were ready for a global pandemic. And I'm not saying it critically. I'm just saying make plans for that. So could you describe for us how your business continuity plan kept you in a position to be able to address something that nobody would have expected?
Robert Carter
executiveWell...
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeUnless you're going to tell me that FedEx did expect it.
Robert Carter
executiveNo. Well, here's a little bit of an interesting insight about how I work through this because I sit on the Board of New York Life, the life insurance company. New York Life's 175 years old this year. It's a very data-rich environment. You think of data analytics and data science. I mean actuarial science is really all about data. Well, New York Life had been through many number of pandemics in their history and had sort of a genetic -- the 1918 flu pandemic and other things were part of the ethos of that company. And so they did, in fact, have an extraordinarily robust notion of what it's like to go through a pandemic. And so as I was sitting in those board meetings listening to that, it helped me to respond better and to think more about what were we really making sure was operable and capable for withstanding this kind of an event. But no, I would never tell you we were, at FedEx, prepared for this kind of a pandemic, but we established a task force very quickly to go over every single business continuity plan. And I'd still get weekly reports, as the pandemic has worn on of each business area and their focused pandemic and business continuity plan, not really pandemic plan but business continuity in the event of needing to support a shift of where the processing takes place for cataclysmic loss of data or systems.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeCan you describe that task force a little bit, like who was involved in it? Who headed it up? I'd be curious about, too. And how do decisions get made? Because I think that's something a lot of the attendees would love to know about maybe put into practice.
Robert Carter
executiveYes. So our CISO organization, the information security organization is actually focused on governance, risk and compliance as well the GRC functions of risk management are a critical part of what Gene Sun, our CISO does. And there's an officer that works for Gene, who is specifically responsible for governance and risk. And so she headed the task force to review, pull in every business unit and review the specific business continuity plans that were in place. And by the way, she also turned those guns towards our third-party providers because there was huge amount of risk there. So we had to go to -- use a lot of alternative delivery capacity and manage services capacity out of India, for example. Well, we went immediately to them. I had a call yesterday with one of our big providers kind of reviewing, doing a deep dive on how they were faring and what their work-from-home environment was and their business continuity plan was. So it was robust. I can honest -- I was proud of the team for their quick response, but we didn't have to build an organization focused on risk, compliance and governance. We already had that, and they just sort of sprung into action in a new way.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeSo if we've gone into a conversation about the way the business itself had to shift pretty quickly. One of the things you've described is how a lot of the business side shipping kind of pulled back because of all the companies that we're having to shut down and whatnot. And then the consumer side just started exploding. How did you use technology to make that shift because it had to have been rippling across the entire company?
Robert Carter
executiveWell, let's unpack that just a little bit. I think it's a really important question, and there is a big technological component to that. So when you think about route-based systems like ours, where we're running the very dense routes of business-to-business traffic in industries like automotive and telecom and technology and health care and aerospace, you see kind of really big stops and big movements in these business-to-business worlds. You shift the focus to a business-to-consumer e-commerce, and what you see is less dense routes, routes that are -- have lighter weight traffic and smaller amounts of that traffic going to each individual stop, the difference between a consumer and a business. So we have a lot of technology to dynamically route our route drivers in ways that get the most density into the lanes and the routes that we're working through. So our ability to use dynamic route optimization and shift the way that we were running routes to deemphasize. And if you look at our day-to-day operations under normal circumstances, the men and women of FedEx are out there running pretty similar routes every day. I mean they're used to a pattern, a circadian rhythm of delivery and traffic, and that changed remarkably. So equipping them with tools and technology on their handhelds and all the technology, the equipment allowed them to move into unfamiliar spaces and do it quickly and efficiently. And we have had an unbelievable surge. I mean we call it getting slingshotted into 2023 when it comes to the e-commerce traffic and volume, the surge in it, and frankly, we're not sure it's going back. So we were really proud of the fact that we have been working on cost-to-serve models and technology optimization capabilities that help the business to run these kind of routes efficiently. And other than that, it would have probably been mayhem. It's been hard. I don't want to say it was easy, but the technology enablers really helped the business withstand this massive shift in traffic patterns.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeYes. It's funny because we've talked in the past a lot about how FedEx is in such a great position from an IT standpoint because you've always been able to innovate. You've got -- you've had very good budgets for IT innovation. You've got a CEO who is absolutely onboard with the implementation of IT advancements and whatnot. So you're in a great position. If there are companies that are not as -- and I'm not saying -- like you said, it's not easy for FedEx. I'm just saying you're well equipped to get stuff done. For companies that aren't in that kind of a position, what might be some things they would need to do to better position themselves for the future? You mentioned 2023. And I want to follow up on that as well. What might they need to do for better long-range planning, budgeting innovation, that sort of thing?
Robert Carter
executiveYes. I think it's getting more and more obvious in the world that we all serve as technology leaders that the digital revelation -- revolution and innovations are actually helping businesses grow. They're helping businesses get better. The use of data, the use of technology, the strategic applications of tapping into the right resources, cloud resources, software resources is a strategic growth driver for the business. And so I think as technology leaders, it's incumbent on us to make sure that the leaderships of our companies isn't looking at technology and digital as some kind of just a cost center. When we talk about -- because we've known each other so long and have this conversation so much, I'm crazy fortunate to have a CEO like Fred Smith, who's an information architect. I mean he said back in 1979 that the information about the package was as important as the package itself and started really a revolution of custodial chain visibility and automation and the ability to keep track of things that were moving through our networks and that DNA is probably one of our best attributes. But companies in situations aren't exactly like that really have to begin to understand that the large -- the companies with the gigantic market caps today are the ones that spend the most on technology, not the least. And there's an inverse relationship between crimping and cramming down IT budgets and thinking that's the right thing for the profitability of the company. And so there's a lot of data. Gartner has data on that, that says, look, don't just constrain your IT spending in a way that hampers the growth of the business because in this digital world, your technology is a critical strategic enabler.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeYou mentioned earlier managed services and you mentioned cloud and whatnot. And under our theme of doing more IT with less, do you think, generally speaking, across business, in general, that there will be more of a reliance on things like managed services, outsourcing, cloud platforms that sort of that shadow IT approaches, anything like that? Do you think there's going to be a shift that we'll see over the next couple of years?
Robert Carter
executiveWell, here's the way I think about it, Brian. I mean it is shifting and the world of technology, I mean, when I started in technology 35 years ago, I mean, there was -- everything was custom crafted. Everything was in your data center and your technology and writing -- there were very few packaged apps at all. There was no ERP. And today, more and more, it's a tap into world of technology. You get to tap into the things that matter the most. You can tap into compute. You can tap into network. You can tap into software, services and capabilities in the ways that really accelerate your ability to do things and to do more with less to the theme of the conference. So for the things that we build inside of our company, we're building them in that cloud-native style of delivery and execution because instead of building big vertical applications inside of an enterprise anymore, we just build capabilities, and they're componentized capabilities that allow us to create horizontal business processes that unlock value. And many of the things that we're tapping into in those horizontal processes are not things that we wrote. They're APIs and services and micro services that we can simply tap into. But that's also true for compute. We don't believe that the enterprise and data center has an infinite life. I mean we think -- now we do think that there is a hybrid model that's emerging that's very clear that uses exascale colos to deploy your technology into. We deploy a lot of our baseload technology into colos these days like Switch, where we have the ability to use unbelievable infrastructure and Infrastructure as a Service and put our workload in there and then have the ability to tap into public cloud. So our deployments there are private cloud, and what we've tapped into is public cloud on the other side of that. And that's what hybrid looks like to us in the future. Even though we still do have a few enterprise-class data centers out there at FedEx, we've closed the vast majority of them already.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeYes. It's interesting. The rethinking of how IT is thought about and deployed and whatnot is so cool. I remember the number of times we came down to Memphis with information. We -- and we'd be sitting in your conference room, and you'd always have this terrific plan. Here's our new 3-year plan moving out, and it was always rethinking how IT is done. And I learned so much from that sort of stuff. So is -- do you have any sort of long-range plan that you've been crafting? Has it changed at all because of what we're going through? How is your thinking going these days?
Robert Carter
executiveYes. You'd be disappointed if I said no, and of course, I won't say no. I mean I probably have more time these days, because I have such a great team working for me, to think about what the future holds for us. And I'll give you -- hopefully, this isn't too deep of a dive for a call -- for a webcast like this. But we've got a framework that we're working on right now, and it has 3 pillars to it. It's called demand shaping, environment shaping and resource shaping, and here's how that works. In demand shaping, we've shifted the entire enterprise into using the business agility frameworks to say, okay, one of the most critical things you can do is understand demand, where it's coming from, have prioritization, economic value drivers inside your demand shaping. So what you work on is really important. Resource shaping is really about the people resources that you have at your disposal to deliver value for the business. So we have a large team of excellent IT practitioners at FedEx, but we also tap into a lot of additional resources out there in the resource shaping and managed technical services world. So we run -- frankly, we run about a 50-50 mix in resource shaping, but those are -- shaping that model is a critical thought process for CIOs and technology leaders, and the onshore/offshore ratios, all of those kinds of things are really important notions of how you shape resource. Then environment shaping is the technology and tools, data centers, network, storage, how do you deploy the environments, and that's where we would get into the conversations like what we just had about colo deployments in Singapore and in Ireland and in Las Vegas that really matter about how we can apportion the environments and connect to them and be effective in that space. So the framework that we plan in right now are those 3 things and is proven to be a really useful way to think about, including -- to be a little bit long, including how we talk to our business partners. They get that. It's not a hard concept for them to get. We're working in those dimensions to try and manage cost and capability, make sure we're working on the right things in an economically effective way.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeDo you anticipate a shift or change of any kind in the way your IT organization is shaped or managed as a result of that 3-pillar approach? Like will you have, for example, more business people coming into the organization to help you make sure that those 3 pillars are being implemented in the right way?
Robert Carter
executiveYes. I don't -- well, other than in the business agility, well, business agility is not an IT thing, and it's not just agile. It's a set of constructs that the President of our corporation and I sponsor, the enterprise business agility frameworks, he and I both are the co-CEOs of our shared services company. We're all marketing in IT and sales and much of the finance organizations and things like that operate, but Raj Subramaniam, this guy that I'm talking about, he is a great business partner. We sit side by side driving demand shaping through the business agility framework. And business agility is not a -- just a term or philosophy. It's a thing. It's a very specific set of capabilities, processes, architectures that we work through to make sure we're working on the right stuff. So there's a lot of no-code and low-code work going on as well, and many of the system capabilities that we've built are oriented to be data driven for changes rather than code driven for changes, pricing and customer systems, things like that. We try not to have to write a whole bunch of code to allow the business to adapt products and pricing and things like that. So -- but I mean the most important thing I've learned over all these years is that if the business teams and the technology teams are aligned and are pulling together, then my job gets easy. All I have to do is get out of the way and watch great things happen because it's just the way it is, but conversely and all too often, when business and IT, you're pointing fingers and blaming, and then it's, frankly, an insult to glaciers to say that things move at glacial speed at that point. And so that's the places that I run to, is when I sense those kind of misalignments. And I have some personal capital with my business partners after all these years to go in and say, "Hey, this is -- if you would like to not see your pet work and your critical projects get done and let's allow that to happen. If you'd like to see great things happen, let's make sure that our teams are aligned and working in a trusted and collaborative fashion."
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeSo speaking of teams, it's obvious that a lot of companies have had to disperse their workforces to work at home. And I know it's a particular -- I was going to stay struggle, but I think FedEx has done a great job in implementing that, but those people who work at home -- and I see you and your beautiful fireplace in the background there.
Robert Carter
executiveYou said it was going to be a fireside chat, Brian.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeFireside chat, that's right. Yes.
Robert Carter
executiveIf it wasn't 97 here in Memphis today, I would have lit the fire, but it's July, [indiscernible].
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeYes. I've got the air conditioning blowing on me right now. But yes, in terms of the workforces, the people working at home, is there any particular concern or risk that there are greater threats to your IT organization because of people -- like have you had to retrain people on not being risky about how they're using technology or transferring data around the organization or anything like that?
Robert Carter
executiveYes. We had, to some degree, moved past a lot of persistent data and files at the client level of the organization. We're a big Office 365 Teams shop. We keep and store most of our work and have for some time in cloud environments rather than pushing it all the way down to the edge. And having said that, we still had to do an awful lot of work, like I said, accelerating the Okta rollout to make sure that we were doing the right things. We -- and that helped us push a lot of our SaaS -- we're a fairly large SaaS shop these days. We have Workday and Salesforce and ServiceNow and Pega and Oracle Cloud Financials (sic) [ Oracle Financials Cloud ] and Office 365. I mean much of what we've done to implement core cloud capabilities comes through tapping into, once again, Software-as-a-Service providers out there to do things that they're particularly good at. But all that said, we've been on high alert. We've seen -- and I'm sure this next conversation kind of will highlight some of this. We've just seen an onslaught of bad guys and bad actors trying to exploit work from home and maybe a distracted team kind of thing. But our team, I'm super proud of and they've done a great job. We're always on high alert. I mean we're never brag about how good we are at this because it's a fraught with peril world out there in the world of cybersecurity. But we've had a -- since 2000, when I became CIO, we've had a full-blown committee of our Board of Directors, is focused on information technology. We were the first Fortune company to put in an IT committee of our Board and have had it for these 2 decades. So now when people say, well, boards have to pay attention to cyber risk and things like that, our Board has been paying attention to it for decades now. And so again, I think we're fortunate that we have -- sort of have a DNA that worked hard to be vigilant, but there's a lot of looming danger out there from all kinds of different bad actors. It's a bit of a tumultuous world from a geopolitical standpoint. It's a bit of a tumultuous world from thieves and black market and things like that. So we're always on guard.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeYes. Good to hear and when I'm trying to send all my packages around. You mentioned something earlier that really intrigued me. I'd love to dig into that a little bit. We've got about 10 minutes. The issue you brought up about the evolution of the data center for FedEx and that you're moving more to colo and other options, cloud on-ramps and Infrastructure as a Service, et cetera, how much of that shift is being driven by cost efficiencies? And how much is it being influenced by the fact that workloads are really the important thing that's going on here, not where the workloads are?
Robert Carter
executiveYes. We've had to learn, Brian, to not be so addicted to our buildings, I mean, and this is a tough thing. This is an organizational change management and cultural thing. A lot of IT teams sort of identify with their data center and identify with the buildings. And so frankly, we're -- your business and the role that you play right now is on data centers and data center management. So we just have to admit to ourselves that, even though we're good at it, we're not as good as these exascale providers that just do build Tier 4 and 5 data centers in ways that are just hyper-resilient. And we're not as interested in the future where we're spending our capital to try and keep our data center infrastructure up-to-date and going through uptime institute audits and finding out that we have this flaw or that. We're -- so again, probably a construct that's worth the audience hearing, we started off on this journey with a construct we called 40, 40, 20, and that adds up to 100%. 40 -- we were going to move from 100% really on-site, owned data centers to 40% owned data centers, 40% colo and 20% cloud. That was where we started. We've now, in talking to all of our team, this won't come as a surprise to them because we talked -- I had an all management meeting yesterday, which is kind of a nice thing about this world. I can have global all management meetings in Zoom or Teams and get the whole team together. And we're doing that monthly now instead of trying to pull it off once a year. But all that said, we've been talking about 0, 50, 50 now. So we're moving from 40, 40, 20 to 0, 50, 50. Now we're several years off from being at that 0 mark, but the target is to say, look, we're going to deploy into colos around the world and into public cloud environments, and it is about workload. We're -- as we've been building these cloud-native capabilities, I mean, we find them to be quite portable. We can use Kubernetes, Kafka and Core Technologies to move workload around, and that's what we believe is important now, is the workload and how it runs. We -- the reason we would go 50-50, people are probably going why not just go all into the public cloud. That is an economic question right now. The economics of public cloud today -- maybe this will change and maybe our numbers will change in the future, but today, public cloud is much more economical if you have an elastic workload, one that goes up and down a lot. We have a huge amount, billions of transactions a day, literally about 20 billion transactions a day managing shipments and customer interactions all over the world, most of which is baseload compute. And so we deploy that on our own infrastructure into colos because it's much more economical for us to do that. We use public cloud. Obviously, we have a lot of SaaS implementations that we've already talked about. We use public cloud for elastic workloads that scale up and down. And where our goal is -- we can't say we're there yet, is to be able to burst workload across those boundaries effectively for our transactional systems going forward.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeAnd it sounds to me also, like it would help very much in another situation where, as you said earlier, your business or corporate business has shifted more towards consumer side business and making that shift might be easier in the future with that kind of an implementation.
Robert Carter
executiveYes. I mean -- and the technology needs have changed dramatically. We used to be pretty shipper oriented in our systems and technology. We've had to -- and the shippers, frankly, are the ones that pay the bills, but the consumer is the recipient, now that has the highest demand for information and a lot of the work that we're doing on digital transformation and digital experience is very much oriented to that recipient consumer.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeOkay. So let me ask you, well, crystal ball a couple of things here. Regardless of whether we're going through a pandemic or some other challenge may come in the future, are there any technologies that FedEx is looking at that are not quite yet prevalent in the organization that you're intrigued by, like AI, machine learning, predictive analytics, anything like that, that's sort of on the horizon for you that your -- you and your organization are kind of just keeping an eye on?
Robert Carter
executiveYes. Maybe more than keeping an eye on a couple of things that pop to mind. I mean maybe one of the most important ones, and it may sound -- I don't know how it will sound to the team of people out there in the audience. But the IoT revolution is so far from finished. And so we're rolling out sensor-based logistics at a fairly rapid pace right now, embedding sensors into shipments so that what you're looking at when you're tracking a package isn't the last event -- the last scan event, but it's actually the on-network capability of a shipment to do that. Our first overnight product, which is kind of our premium product and the express enterprise is being onboarded with sensors in every one of those shipments that keep track of it and allow you to find it and track the journey of it very effectively. So I think sensor-based logistics and IoT is a big deal. I think automation -- and when I'd say automation at this point in time, I mean vehicle automation is really interesting. We're working on our same-day delivery bot called Roxo. We announced it last year. We're getting ready to go into Phase 2 testing with a killer robot that's based on Dean Kamen and DEKA's iBOT platform, a platform that has 10 million hours of testing. It was the wheelchair that Dean Kamen invented that could climb steps and do things like that. And so I actually -- I think I met Dean at an InformationWeek event many, many years ago, and he delivered his keynote from a Segway. But we've done a lot of work with DEKA and the incredible work that they're doing. But Roxo is the name of this little bot. It's really coming along well. It's being tested in New Hampshire, in Tennessee and North Carolina and Texas. Really, really kind of an exciting potential to have same-day delivery in an economical and environmentally friendly way, with a lot of AI embedded in autonomy, embedded in those things and their ability to navigate. We're also doing blockchain work, Brian. I mean we've got -- people have sort of lost track of maybe the fact that blockchain might be an important technology. We've made investments in blockchain. We think that, particularly in times like these when we see counterfeit PPE coming in and counterfeit testing kits, nothing speaks more to me about the importance of ultimately what blockchain will become and authenticity, providence and the ability to track the heritage of something as it moves through a supply chain and blockchain. So we've spent a lot of time with the block -- we've shared the Blockchain in Transportation Alliance for a while now. We were founding members of the -- of Don Tapscott's Blockchain Research Institute. And we continue to believe that it's one of those technologies that may seem like it was overhyped and kind of conflated with cryptocurrency in its earliest days, but I think there'll come a time and we'll look back over our shoulder, and it will be everywhere. It will be embedded in so many different things, particularly as it relates to supply chains.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeWell, if there was ever a better example of Fred Smith and his 1979 prediction about -- the information about the package to be more valuable than the package itself, that's -- you are absolutely headed beyond that with all of this stuff. So greatly appreciate your time today, Rob. I know that you have to go. You've got a multibillion-dollar IT organization to run there. But as always, thank you so much. You've always been so generous to us and our audiences, and thank you very much for keynoting this event with us today. Rob Carter, CIO of FedEx, thanks. And I'll bring in Michael Kaczmarek now. Rob, thanks so much.
Robert Carter
executiveThank you so much, Brian. What a treat to catch up with you again. See you soon.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeYes, you too. Thank you. So Michael Kaczmarek is the VP of Security Solutions for Neustar. He's joining us now for another 15 minutes. And Michael, I just wanted to ask you, Rob did mention that issue where they're getting bombarded by these DDoS attacks and whatnot because the workforce is working at home. What did you think of his comments about that?
Michael Kaczmarek
attendeeI think it was spot on. It's -- we're seeing a lot of that in the trends these days that your bad actors aren't just doing more attacks. We've seen an increase of about 180% in the number of attacks in this half of the year from last half -- the first half of last year. They're actually targeting systems now that weren't once considered critical infrastructure. So we're seeing beyond just trying to take down the online presence, attackers going after things like VPNs, going after smaller systems, back-end systems, which are essential now during the pandemic because your workforce is so diverse, your workforce is no longer protected behind your corporate infrastructure any longer. It's so spread out, and attackers know this. They're just -- they're looking for ways to get in for holes, and it's changed the entire manner in which we're having to protect infrastructures.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeWhat do you think of Rob's comment about the moving from 40, 40, 20 to 0, 50, 50 and 50% of it going to the cloud? Does -- what does that mean to organizations as they're trying to protect that kind of a shift from bad actors?
Michael Kaczmarek
attendeeSo the interesting thing about it is, is that when you see this big shift that's happening and it's been progressing over the years, that your footprint for protection has just broadened -- continues to broaden. And so you go from supporting a singular infrastructure, let's say, that was originally in your data center to now infrastructure that's a hybrid, which is your data center and your cloud to then moving into things like multi-cloud environments that a lot of organizations are adopting in multi-CDN environments. Your footprint for attack has just increased, and every time, it doesn't just double. It increases exponentially. So you now have new tool sets, new things you have to take into account to protect. It puts a strain on an already stressed security workforce, and even though it -- yes, it may be cost effective and economical to move down that path, you have to go in eyes wide open because you have to understand exactly how are you going to orchestrate your security controls across all of those environments now, which makes it a little bit -- changes the way in which you're going to do things. And then you throw having a work-from-home on top of that from when now you no longer have the ability to look to the left and say, "Oh, I'm going to talk to my colleague here because I see something. He might know something about it." You have to take a larger effort. You have to pick -- you have to now pick the phone up. You have to jump on a video chat, whatever that may be. Correlations go down. The importance of your tool sets now increase the importance on potentially even third parties who could help take some of that heavy lifting off your plate becomes even more and more essential.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeIn fact, I was going to say, not just third parties. But what about automation? Is that -- do you anticipate there's going to be more of that going on, too?
Michael Kaczmarek
attendeeI'd believe so. I would think that you're going to see a lot more automation, especially for the heavy lifting. So as you or -- dependency on other organizations who can look broadly across all of the various industries as well as within your industry, to be able to make that assessment of what they see happening allow the systems into or allow the protection to go across and take off like that -- take a cut of that first layer and now allow your security teams within the organization to focus on the specifics for your applications or your business or whatever is necessary to keep things running and operational. I'd see a significant change moving more towards the automation as well as a dependency on, as I said, third parties to look across the organizations.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeLet me ask you this about now, again, on the topic of the shift towards the cloud and other platforms that are not on-prem or other approaches that are not on-prem. Do you think companies need to, especially smaller companies, but not exclusively smaller, do you think these companies need to include a risk profile kind of approach to how much they should be considering these off-prem platforms? Like in other words, if they think, okay, let's do -- I don't know if I shouldn't use FedEx as an example -- but let's put 40% of our business in the cloud, do you think that they should be having conversations about the risk of doing so the whole time they're making this plan and perhaps they adjust that differently because of the risk?
Michael Kaczmarek
attendeeOh, without a doubt. You -- anytime you're walking in that it's if you're building any new product or you're launching in any new service or in this case, you're deploying into new infrastructures, you shouldn't be evaluating the risk after you've adopted it. You should be looking at the risk right at the beginning and make a determination, is your team structure set up, ready to go to be able to take that all, number one; number two, understand the challenges associated with it; but then number three, understand what gotchas are going to come as a part of the adoption of doing so. So evaluating that risk should be a continuous effort. It shouldn't just be after I've implemented. You should be looking at it in the beginning and are you willing to absorb it during what have I found and even if you migrate away, what are the new risks that are going to -- what are the risks that are going to happen when I move away from something like that. All of that needs to be taken into account. It should be continuously evaluated during the life cycle.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeSo we've seen all these surveys about organizations who are saying their work-at-home workforce, the people who've shifted there, a lot of them are either preferring to work there permanently or some companies are saying a higher percentage of our people will be working at home permanently. What has to be done? What should be considered about that from a security strategy standpoint?
Michael Kaczmarek
attendeeThat's a great question. So what's interesting is when -- the majority of organizations when the pandemic hit had to take their business continuity plan. Obviously, Rob made the comment that they went back through, reevaluated their business continuity plan, but they had considered what was the evolution or what would happen if the majority of the workforce had to work from home. But most organizations had to take their business continuity plan and throw it away because business continuity in that consideration was what happens when I move from building A to building B into a different remote location, not what happens when every one of my people now have to -- has to work from their house. How do I protect that? So the strategy shifted significantly and actually, I would even say the tactics even more so because everything that you -- most organizations, everything they had put in place were put in place to protect anything behind the corporate WAN, right? So within the corporate LAN, within that infrastructure that was out there. Keep everything in the building, funnel everything through. I have 75% to 80% of my workforce working out of a singular location or 2 to 3 locations, and from there, I could protect them because I would just -- I have all my components built in place. I have all my pieces that would look for anything from a next-generation firewall to ACLs, to anything that could control what was coming in or going out of the organization. Then all of a sudden...
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeAnd with that -- oh sorry, go ahead.
Michael Kaczmarek
attendeeYes. Then all of a sudden, the pandemic hit. And then now how do you protect not only the individual device because it's connecting remotely? So number one, did I even have enough VPN connectivity to support a remote workforce of that significance, which was only originally intended for people on travel or very few who worked out of their house? Now I've got to protect every device on a network, which I don't own, which is also being shared with personal computers, iPads, other devices where I don't have any control over where they are going now online. So you have all -- not only just the threat of protecting that device as it connects into the infrastructure but all the other devices now that could be cross-pollinating with that device. And how -- it's just the security issue just like went up just immensely, hundredfold the minute everyone had to work from home.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeSo I'm curious, too, then. With that as a backdrop, do you think that companies also need to reconsider or renegotiate their SLAs with some of their vendors, with security vendors to make sure that they are getting the level of service in a new environment? I mean this is very different for a lot of companies.
Michael Kaczmarek
attendeeWell, I think -- so probably you bring that up, companies should be going through and reevaluating their SLAs continuously with their vendors, right? It's -- it shouldn't have taken a pandemic or it shouldn't have taken the change in the manner in which we have to work for an organization to say, "Hey, maybe I should go back through and relook at our SLAs and what works for my business." They should be doing that continuously. They should be -- you're getting in -- you're not going to realize -- you're going to get the majority of the standard SLAs, which are associated with availability or reliability or performance that are going to come into play on a standard contract, but until you implement that service in your environment or in the cloud or integrated in with your systems, you're never going to know exactly what things need to be tweaked along the way with the SLAs. So they should be going back and should always go back and reevaluate the SLAs and shouldn't wait until the contract is up. They should start the conversations, right, as they believe that there's time for renegotiation or reevaluation.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeNegotiate like a baseball player, like mid-season.
Michael Kaczmarek
attendeeExactly.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeYes. So you were in the background during Rob's keynote presentation. You were listening in. Was there anything else Rob brought up that you thought was particularly interesting that you wanted to comment on or maybe share with the audience?
Michael Kaczmarek
attendeeI think he made a good point about that his -- that the business and technology teams need to work together in order to create -- get that at high speed as opposed to turning an aircraft carrier when they're not -- you can actually turn pretty quickly and maneuver. It's like riding in a -- it's like managing or navigating with a canoe. You have a little bit more control. And I think that is a critical thing because as having a running product, working very closely with our IT organizations, it's critical to ensure that we are working with the technology teams to make sure that we're moving products forward and meeting our customers' requirements because, if not, one, I can be putting together a product that no one's going to buy; two, I could put together a product that no one wants; or three, I could be building a product that completely missed the mark. And without having the technology teams integrated in, I'm not going to achieve a level of success that's going to get me to that next point in the evolution of either the product or the business. And that same holds true for security that if you're not bringing those teams in at the same time you're trying to operate your business, yes, your security organization is going to be a little bit more standoffish, kind of put the hand up and say, "Hold on, we may not want to do it." But they're as much invested in the success of the company as the people who are trying to grow it. They're just looking at it from a different perspective of what can I do to protect it versus what can I do to open it all up and grow it. So I think -- I thought that was -- among the other items that you brought up, I thought that was one of the key items that it's critical that business and technology work closely together. Without it, you're never going to achieve success.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeWell, we had the good fortune of having some terrific perspective from Rob Carter and from you as well on this topic, so we really do appreciate it. Kaz, are you going to be able to join us in the group chat after this?
Michael Kaczmarek
attendeeYes, I will be sitting around, listening in.
Brian Gillooly;AFCOM Data Center World;Content Director
attendeeOkay. Wonderful. So to that end, folks, if you want to join Kaz, Michael Kaczmarek, in the group chat after this, he will be there to take questions from you. Again, you have the opportunity to go to all the group chats. You can go to our lobby chat. You can chat with people one on one as well, but we do invite you to continue throughout. We do have our next session that's coming up is "In Search of the Silver Lining in the Rush to Remote Work." So that'll be our first panel conversation. So join us for that as well. Once again, thanks to Rob Carter, FedEx, and Michael Kaczmarek from Neustar for joining us for this opening keynote. We had a great time. I really appreciate it. And thank you, everybody, for joining us, and we'll talk to you throughout the rest of the day. Thanks very much.
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