FLYHT Aerospace Solutions Ltd. (FLY) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

April 13, 2023

TSX Venture Exchange CA Industrials earnings 54 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Welcome to the FLYHT Aerospace Solutions Fourth Quarter and Year-End 2022 Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Due to the volume of questions expected on today's call, we ask that you please limit your questions to 3 to allow time for others in the queue. If there are any outstanding questions at the end of the call, the company will be happy to take them by e-mail to investors@flyht.com. I would now like to turn the conference over to Matt Chesler, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Matt.

Matt Chesler

attendee
#2

Thank you for joining our fourth quarter and full year 2022 earnings call. On the call with me today are Kent Jacobs, President and Interim CEO of FLYHT and Alana Forbes, FLYHT's Chief Financial Officer. On our website, flyht.com, we posted a press release covering the information we'll review today as well as a webcast of today's conference call. An archived version of the call will be posted on the Investor Relations section of our website as soon as it is available from the conference call provider. Before we start, I'd like to remind everyone to read the forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial and other information that we have included in our 2022 annual report. Certain of the statements made today may constitute forward-looking statements, and these statements are our present expectations. Relevant factors that could cause actual results to differ materially are listed in our earnings materials and in our SEDAR filings, including our annual report, which should be filed today, which is already filed. During the course of today's call, we will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. You can find the reconciliation of these to the nearest comparable GAAP measures in the 2022 annual report. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Kent.

Kent Jacobs

executive
#3

Thank you, Matt. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. My name is Kent Jacobs. And late in 2022, I was appointed to the expanded role of President and Interim CEO of FLYHT. Bill Tempany, our CEO, passed away unexpectedly on December 20th of last year. It is with both a heavy heart and an unwavering commitment to his vision and legacy that I speak to you on this regular earnings call. Bill is deeply missed by everyone at FLYHT and by me as a colleague, a mentor and a friend. When Bill returned to FLYHT as our CEO in 2020, we set the tone for our software focused vision and informed the team that successfully continues its work today. I am proud to meet that to you. But this is an ordinary time for FLYHT. 2022 was a year of exciting accomplishments and opportunities. As I consider my 20 years at FLYHT, I have never been more optimistic about our current state and future opportunities. With the strong execution of our strategy, we delivered record revenue of nearly $24 million, representing a doubling of our 2021 revenue, while also generating positive EBITDA in the second half of 2022 and on a full year basis. The continued recovery of the airline industry, coupled with FLYHT approach have placed us in a strong position to benefit from the ongoing robust demand for our legacy products and surging interest for our new and innovative solutions. FLYHT vision to become a global for in providing innovative aviation and environmental solutions for our customers is coming to fruition. We are on the verge of obtaining the initial supplemental type certificates of our new innovation debater's edge. The 5G enabled [indiscernible] utilized cellular, Iridium Certus and Wi-Fi capabilities to provide powerful fluctuation awareness by delivering data in real time. If lightweight form and versatility bridge the end-to-end digital divide to make narrowbody connectivity a reality. Our FTC rollout strategy is the first [indiscernible] Airbus A320 and Boeing 737 around the world. By focusing on these narrow-body fleets, we're targeting roughly 70% of the commercial aircraft worldwide. We envision an addressable market of approximately 25,000 aircraft with the AFIRS Edge to become the dominant avionics of choice for wireless quick access recorder and aircraft interface device function, thereby enabling operations in finite airspace and in a progressively carbon-free environment. Building upon the AFIRS Edge infrastructure, weather and environmental services are becoming an increasingly important component of our staff operating model. As presented in FLYHT's recent testimony to the subcommittee on environment of the United States House of Representatives to make on science, based on technology. FLYHT WBFF2-water-based offenses a bolt-on aircraft with an AFIRS Edge is a critical component of weather, aircraft-based observations for metrologists and airlines. Weather is constantly changing, making real-time ABO a prime source of recurring revenue in support of weather forecasting model and aviation operations. As part of the global focus on environmental impact of Aviation, researchers have projected the cloud form from Contrail that Contrail [indiscernible] Cloud are responsible for approximately half of aviation climate effect, making Contrail detection and avoidance programs a priority. The FLYHT WVSS-II sensor provides accurate water vapor detection, thus providing valuable data and services regarding aircraft in due Cloud [indiscernible] Contrail avoidance. Initially, these services are expected to support the research community and government with airline and military operational applications to follow. Validation of FLYHT's environmental strategy was removed last year as the United Kingdom Metrological office announced their intent to purchase FLYHT WVSS-II Water Vapor Vendor System. While the acreage edge is our new flagship offering, demand for the complementary acreage 228 satcom demand at an all-time high. In 2022, FLYHT landed and fulfilled our single largest licensing order totaling more than $7 million. The success of Airbus A220, A320 and A330 aircraft means we fully expect additional orders to continue from our licensing agreement with Altera. Additionally, with a proven track record, the AFT has allowed us to maintain our base of loyal customers. Over the years, we have developed a library of more than 100 STCs, which we continue to expand in concert with new airliner development, including the Airbus Neo and Boeing MAX fleet. In addition to the ACSA and the AFIRS Edge, both supporting all our products and services, we have also developed stand-alone staff offerings as part of our recurring revenue strategy. The recent introduction of ClearPort our aircraft turn management tool represents FLYHT's latest stand-alone at product as we expand into artificial intelligence and machine learning models and further develop either our data warehouse capability, we look forward to reaching our full fast revenue potential. As in any year, 2022 is all about the people who make it happen. As we move forward from development to market introduction, we brought on board 4 new members with a combined 75-plus years of skill and experience in the aviation industry. These team members bring with them a terming track record of success as an elite professional network, thereby enhancing FLYHT's reputation and improving our time to market. Our innovative technologies and vision were paramount in attracting such talent to our organization. Their impact has been immediately felt and will be reflected in future results. I'd also like to highlight key changes to our Board of Directors, which we announced this morning. I am privileged to announce that Captain Mary McMillan, a current independent directors on the Board has been named as Non-Executive Chairman of the Board. Captain McMillan replaced Nina Johnson, who is feeding the role of Chair due to external commitments. Based on Virginia Mary a true pioneer of women in aviation with decades of leadership experience at major companies such as Inmarsat. For knowledge of airlines, aircraft products and aviation safety makes it a key part of the FLYHT family and helping CRS to solutions that are attractive to airlines and related service providers. She is currently President of Casual Aviation, a consulting company dedicated to the development and implementation of aviation safety and environmental strategy. Captain Mary --[indiscernible] began 1982 and has over 12,000 hours light time under the belt. I also want to extend my heartfelt gratitude to longtime Board member, Jack Wolcott, who has stepped down after 15 years of service. 2 periods of rapid growth and challenges such as COVID-19, is deep understanding of business aviation and steady guidance to Bill Tempany and more recently to me, have helped to build FLYHT into the leader that it is today. Thank you, Jack. As we accelerate out of COVID-19 and honor Bill's legacy, we remain steadfast in our execution of FLYHT's vision. I would like to thank our dedicated staff for their hard work in preservers, our loyal shareholders for your continued support and our customers for allowing us to continue to provide service in value. I'd now like to turn the call over to Alana for a review of our financial performance.

Alana Forbes

executive
#4

Thank you, Kent. I will begin by reviewing fourth quarter and full year 2022 results, and then will discuss key operating metrics and highlight the tremendous operating leverage our company enjoyed this past quarter as revenues grew much faster year-over-year than expenses. Looking at Q4, we achieved record high revenue of $7.2 million, representing a 186% increase over the $2.5 million reported in Q4 of 2021. All of our operating segments contributed to this growth. SaaS revenues increased 50% year-over-year to $2.3 million, which was in part due to the addition of cross consensus SaaS revenue. Hardware revenues doubled to $1.2 million from $591,000 reported in Q4 of 2021. We shipped 16 kits in Q4 of 2022 compared to 9 in Q4 of 2021. Licensing revenue increased 751% to $3 million compared to just $356,000 reported for Q4 2021 due to increases in the number of modems and associated license fees ordered for delivery in comparative periods as we delivered on the largest licensing order we've received to date. That order was valued at over $7 million and was received in Q2 of 2022. As of December 2022, we have completed all shipments for this quarter. Technical Services in Q4 increased over 800% to $740,000 as a result of the addition of cross-consent services to this revenue category. In terms of profitability, we reported another strong quarter of margins, with Q4 gross margin of 67%, increasing 1,700 basis points year-over-year compared to 49.5% reported for the same period in 2021. The increase in licensing, our highest margin revenue line drove the margin expansion again this quarter. Operating expenses increased 24% to $3.9 million as 2021's fourth quarter did not include cross -consent. With revenue scaling faster than OpEx, we, therefore, reported an operating profit of $900,000 in 2022 fourth quarter compared to a loss of $1.9 million reported in Q4 2021. EBITDA was $1.2 million compared to a loss of $1.7 million reported in the same period of 2021, which was an increase of $2.9 million. Likewise, net income was positive in Q4 of 2022 at $700,000 compared to a loss in the prior year or in the prior year's fourth quarter of $2.4 million, which was an improvement of $3.2 million. I would now like to turn our attention to full year 2022 results. For the full year, we achieved record revenue with a 111% increase year-over-year to $23.9 million compared to $11.3 million reported for 2021. Growth again came from all of our operating segments. SaaS revenue increased 36% year-over-year to just over $8 million compared to $6 million reported in 2021. The cross-consent acquisition closed at the end of quarter 1 in 2022, so its SaaS revenue has contributed to our consolidated results for a little more than 3 quarters of 2022, which has provided a boost to our SaaS revenue. Hardware revenue increased 39% year-over-year to $4.7 million as compared to $3.4 million reported in 2021. This was a result of a total of 69 installation kits being shipped in 2022 versus 54 in 2021. Licensing revenue jumped by 487% for a total of just over $9.1 million compared to $1.6 million in 2021 due to the previously mentioned delivery of our record licensing orders. Technical Services revenue increased almost 400% year-over-year to $1.9 million from $380,000 as a result of the addition of cross-consent services to this revenue category. In terms of profitability, full year 2022 gross margin was 63.7%, an increase of over 650 basis points compared to 57.2% reported for 2021. Operating expenses increased by 33% to $15.6 million in 2022 compared to $11.7 million reported for 2021. The largest contributors to this increase were the addition of cross-consent personnel and associated expenses, multiple 2022 sales hires, as Kent mentioned, to support our growth initiatives and increased associated costs to support hardware product development and certification processes and development of new SaaS solutions to support our customers in their post-pandemic recovery efforts. 2022 EBITDA was a positive $250,000 compared to a loss of $4.5 million in 2021, which was an improvement of $4.8 million. 2022 net loss was $1 million compared to a loss of $5.9 million in the prior year, also an improvement of $4.8 million. Looking at the balance sheet. We generated $900,000 in cash from operations in Q4, ending the year with $2.6 million in cash and equivalents compared to $1.8 million reported in Q3 2022. Our receivables balance at year-end showed some impact from our Q4 delivery, which should come in, in the early part of 2023 and which has contributed to healthy cash generation in our first quarter. You will also notice increases on the balance sheet in the goodwill, intangible assets and contract liabilities categories, all of which relate to the cross-consent acquisition in March of 2022. And finally, it is worth noting that revenues from all of our major geographic regions increased year-over-year with the exception of China, the Middle East and Africa. As the recovery of the airline industry in those regions has lagged the Western world, our mix of revenue shifted to 51% from the U.S. and Mexico in early 2022 compared to 39% in the same period last year. The large licensing order delivered in the second half of 2022 accounted for most of the year-over-year increase in U.S. revenue. We expect over the coming years, Edge platform sales will drive increased hardware sales and with the recovery ongoing in China, the Middle East and Africa that SaaS revenue will likewise show continued growth. A second phase of fast growth should curve as the installed base of Edge platform increases and customers recognize the tremendous value our software solutions provide to their operations. Looking ahead, we expect continued growth in our business, driven by the ongoing recovery of the global aviation industry as well as the execution of our strategy. Last week, the International Air Transport Association, IATA, announced continued strong growth in air travel. February 2023 Revenue Passenger Kilometers or RPKs, rose 56% compared to February 2022 and now stands at 85% of pre-pandemic levels measured as opposed to February 2019. Domestic travel rose 25% year-over-year, representing 97% of pre-sediment level and international traffic rose 90% year-over-year, representing 78% of pre-sediment levels. According to IATA, despite uncertain economic signals, demand for air travel continues to be strong across the globe and in particular in the Asia Pacific region. At FLYHT, our backlog, which includes contracted business of $25 million at the end of Q4 2022 gives us good visibility on revenue over the coming quarters. Additionally, our pipeline, which includes uncontracted opportunities for newer offerings such as the Edge FLYHT [indiscernible] more than $70 million and is the most robust we've ever experienced. As we obtain STCs on our edge platform, we expect our type of opportunity will continue to grow over the course of time. And with all of that said, we'll answer the questions that have come in via e-mail to investors@flyht.com.

Alana Forbes

executive
#5

Now that the modem order is delivered, should we expect to see licensing revenues go back to the level they were running at before?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#6

We expect continued licensing revenues. Our agreement and our cooperation with [indiscernible], we don't expect it to go away. We supply that product to support the Airbus family of aircraft is more successful line of aircraft on the planet. We expect it to continue, and we expect it to grow.

Alana Forbes

executive
#7

Might there be additional modem orders that would result in this list in licensing revenues again.

Kent Jacobs

executive
#8

Kind of the same question, yes, we are expecting continued growth there.

Alana Forbes

executive
#9

In terms of the FTC, can you talk about the sequences of approval? Is Canada first and which airframes would that cover? Will it go something like Airbus model 1, 2, 3 and then the same for Boeing models? Or is it more of a blanket.

Kent Jacobs

executive
#10

And different companies to build Avionics and get FCC before they could put those products on the trade, approach the challenge of getting FMC in different ways. The FLYHT is taking the approach for the edge of completing the A320 and the 737 at the highest -- at the most modern level of the airline that began. So for the 737, we're completing it on the MAX model as quickly as possible. That will cover us on the lower models, such as the 737 NGs and the 737 classics. We can then take those STCs and familiarize them into other jurisdictions such as the [indiscernible] into Europe. So we've got a very structured strategy for dealing with the SEC process. It's a challenge, we have the same challenge with the AFS 220. We have challenge with 228 and now with the Edge. It's just a matter of getting to the taper, getting the government agencies to support us and get those initial information.

Alana Forbes

executive
#11

What is the process to get the Canada STCs approved in the U.S. and Europe? And how long does that take?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#12

It's a process [ calculization ]. So there are bilateral agreements between groups like agencies like Transport Canada and the FAA. Transport Canada and the other and once we have a complete SCC in a jurisdiction like Canada, we can familiarize that package, familiarize that FPC into those other jurisdictions. We would gather up all the documentation once the STP is completed in Canada, we gather all the documentation, all the test results, everything that went into the approval and Transport Canada will submit that on our behalf into the FAA. It then becomes an exercise between Transport Canada and the FAA, we don't play a large role in it. We support any kind of additional resume come along. But it's primarily then a government agency to government agency. We don't have any control over the time that, that takes. Right now, the FAA is running quite slow, much more than they were before COVID. In Europe, it's much better. So as we get those FCC done in Canada, we will familiarize the [indiscernible] as quickly as possible. There's a bit of an element there where we don't control the time.

Alana Forbes

executive
#13

New aircraft today, are they rolling off the line with the AFIRS 228 [indiscernible] product.

Kent Jacobs

executive
#14

Well, if it's an Airbus A320 family or A330 aircraft is a very, very good chance of rolling off line with an [indiscernible] product provided to the [indiscernible] agreement. That is our only lift opportunity right now our engagement that we have, but it could be in a one line of aircraft on the planet that the one I would want the most successful aircraft. So that's the line that's rolling off of the [indiscernible].

Alana Forbes

executive
#15

And a follow-on, who else is offering a competitive option to situate?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#16

Well, from a [indiscernible] on standpoint, there is competition in that space. The Collins Rockwell Avionics they have competing [indiscernible] products, not only with Iridium, but also with the satellite networks like Inmersat. But that's not new. FLYHT has been in that competing in the apps for 10 to 15 years. So nothing new there. We do very well in that space.

Alana Forbes

executive
#17

In terms of the Edge product, can a customer -- no, we answered that one. Do the contracts for the SaaS offerings have price escalation options for inflation over the term [indiscernible]. Those escalations clauses are in all of our contracts. Over the long term, do you expect to launch additional software and data applications that would ride on top of the Edge SAP platform that would result in additional SaaS revenue opportunity?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#18

Yes. That is exactly the model that we are taking, not the approach that we are taking. The edge is the platform that provides the access to the data on the aircraft. We have the most efficient way to get that data off the aircraft and then we have the ability to analyze to do what we will with that information, that data, turn it into knowledge, turning into actionable intelligence. That is the vision to build brought the company 2.5 years ago. That is what we are focusing on.

Alana Forbes

executive
#19

Will the Edge FTCs be received in Q2?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#20

The answer is yes. We have provisions on the A320. We're expecting provisions on the 737 MAX, very, very easy. That will allow us to then do those initial roots and turn those into activation SEC. I just want to clarify something. Sorry, I read that wrong. I thought that said in 2023 in Q2, we still expect to have the provisions in Q2 absolutely.

Alana Forbes

executive
#21

Has there been any presales at the edge ahead of the ceding SEC?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#22

Not yet. Can I -- Sorry. We don't have any presales. We're in active discussions with several airlines about this right now. Look, there's a challenge and there are additional steps that the airline has to go through if they're the first airline to put the product on their aircraft and to provide the FLYHT in the round down. And that's the stage that we're at right now. The product becomes much easier to sell, much more attractive to an airline. So the moment those STCs are available. We have experience with the 220 on this with the API-2 with A28 and now with the Edge the same thing. We're just going through those initial bases with them.

Alana Forbes

executive
#23

Great. Has there been any sales of the partnership product with MBS? Will it work with Edge as well as [indiscernible]?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#24

The partnership with MDS is on the data loading, airborne data loading functions. There have been no sales yet. We're in fashion with the 1 airline regarding that capability right now and that partnership that MBS and FLYHT would have. Will it work with the [indiscernible] as well as the Edge. That data loading functionality works with the Edge only at doesn't work with the [indiscernible]. So it's a delay for edge and an NB combined solution.

Alana Forbes

executive
#25

Can be said that FLYHT's actionable intelligence software is presently producing that?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#26

Absolutely. There are -- when Bill made the decision and brought the vision, we were going to focus on that maximum intelligence, we tweaked and we completed some of the programs on the AFIRS-228 platform that allow us to provide axial intelligence. And we are doing that right now [indiscernible]of our customers. The new products, such as ClearPort they're rolling out now. They'll just be adding to that a opportunity.

Alana Forbes

executive
#27

Great. What are the expectations for AFIRS L3Harris Airbus licensing in 2023?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#28

It's a little bit tricky to answer that. That revenue is very lumpy. Those orders come in, in big toner and then we can go up to 1 or 2 quarters where we don't have any additional sales or additional into revenue there. It is the A320 line of aircraft, and we absolutely expect more orders to be coming in. The popular airplanes, most aircraft that are coming off the line or dating the dotcom product while the successful product.

Alana Forbes

executive
#29

Have there been presales at the WQA version -- let me answer that one. Where does the sale of the WVSS-II sensor [indiscernible]stand?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#30

We're in contract negotiations right now like today.

Alana Forbes

executive
#31

Can you provide updates for the activities with the ECP only Environment Canada and with Sweep?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#32

So yes, we're continuing to provide efficacy with AMDAR data from our aircraft need in Canada. We expect that relationship to continue and grow as we add new aircraft and as we bring the WVSS-II online.

Alana Forbes

executive
#33

Those are all the questions that we received in advance. [indiscernible], I'd like to turn the call back to you now, and we'd be pleased to take questions from callers.

Operator

operator
#34

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Jaeson Schmidt from Lake Street.

Jaeson Schmidt

analyst
#35

I know you guys don't provide guidance, but just curious if you could comment on what you're seeing from an order pattern standpoint year-to-date here.

Kent Jacobs

executive
#36

We see an increasing -- the pattern is increasing. It's something that we monitor and it's the recovery. The recovery of the industry is demonstrating that.

Jaeson Schmidt

analyst
#37

And curious if you could provide color on what your expectations are for -- from a supply chain standpoint? Are you expecting any significant friction or headwinds there?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#38

No. That has been something that we have been constantly monitoring over throughout COVID and spend into the following year. Right now, we're very confident that we're in a very good brand for our supply chain. It's something that we are actively working continuously in the organization, making sure that we're not caught off guard.

Alana Forbes

executive
#39

I would also say, we did take extra time to redesign several portions of the edge to account for anticipated supply chain issue. So we've increased -- we've spent a lot of time and effort in increasing the resilience of that product in particular. And the supply chain for the other product lines are pretty [indiscernible].

Jaeson Schmidt

analyst
#40

And then just the last one for me, and I'll jump back into queue. Gross margin was obviously strong in Q4. I assume partly that was due to [indiscernible], but how should we think about gross margin trending here in 2023?

Alana Forbes

executive
#41

I think it will all depend on if we are able to receive further licensing orders through 2023. The gross margin for that product line is in the 80% range. So it really increases our gross margin when we have a significant portion of our revenue derived from licensing. SaaS revenues are increasing. The bigger they are, the more lift we get off of our fixed costs in that category. And we're seeing around 60% for that category. Hardware is a bit more challenging. We do take lower gross margins just to get the real estate on the aircraft so that we can start the SaaS pipe and start providing data services to our customers. Hardware revenues are carrying about 30% gross margins at this time.

Operator

operator
#42

Next question comes from Dick Ryan from Oak Ridge Financial.

Richard Ryan

analyst
#43

Congratulations on the strong finish to 22 days. If I can, when you look at the -- and there's a lot of commentary on STCs, but I guess I just want to go back to the 228 STC on the MAX. You've got a launch customer there. With the Airbus side, you've got the relationship with L3 that pulls that through. Do you need an L3 version on Boeing to help pull that through? Or will that be more direct between just you and Boeing and the airlines?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#44

Look, having a relationship with Boeing, similar to the one that we have with Airbus would be great. But you mentioned the 2 to 8 and the MAX. It's not -- we're not going to get that relationship with the 228 on the Boeing, please, if that's what you're asking. That opportunity for the line [indiscernible] is over on the Boeing product. The 228 MAX STC that we just received was to take provisions on a MAX aircraft and install the satcom system directly into those provisions. Not sure.

Richard Ryan

analyst
#45

You announced a couple of Boeing openings? What's the process and where do you stand to fill some Boeing seats? Or are you going to leave it at the current configuration?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#46

A week from now, there's an information circular that will address that. Any concerns about the Board, it will all be covered in that. The Board is going to remain extremely strong and potentially stronger. That will come up... Yes, you get it a week from today.

Richard Ryan

analyst
#47

You've had some strong industry hires from Teledyne to post the -- that it gets to the certification process. Can you just kind of acquire subjectively talk about. You've had these guys on board for 6 months. What are you seeing now that 6 months after their hires, what kind of progress are you seeing touch points with airlines, whether that's domestic or international. Can you just kind of give us a sense of the progress you're seeing there?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#48

Yes. It's a great point. So the -- and I did talk about the addition of the sales team there. It's been a great experience for FLYHT. The first thing that's really obvious about that is that the U.K. program is moving ahead so quickly and so actively. It's really -- that is directly related to the input from that new team that is LYHT. The other part is really, really obvious to me about the way that, that team is influencing our is that the fall to be a little bit careful with the work, but the quality of the airline. The importance -- the value of the airlines that are coming to the table now that we are dealing with has changed significantly. FLYHT, we've had a long history of working with great companies. But we're moving into a different tier with the airlines because the people that we have on board. And we're responding to RFPs. We're putting direct into airlines that we wouldn't have been dealing with before. That's a testament to the people that we brought on board.

Operator

operator
#49

The next question comes from [ Bruce Krugel ], private investor.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#50

A couple of follow-up questions, specifically on the weather. So per my research, I understand now that you own probably the weather devices for aircraft. Now you've got the U.K. [indiscernible] contract which you've commented on, yet the opportunity to go down to the United States and present in the Congress, are you seeing any traction on the weather front outside of U.K. [indiscernible]?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#51

Yes, absolutely. And the experience working with U.K. [indiscernible]. The experience of working with U.K. [indiscernible] showed us that it is the government agencies that are the primary user of that initial set of data that we collect. So with the relative community sensors that FLYHT owns, we have the Tambar product and we have the WVSS, we turn those aircraft-based observations is something that is completely different than the industry we add relative to humidity. The most important value that is not inherently collected off an aircraft. So our ABOs are that much better than anybody else who's putting it out there. U.K. [indiscernible] with the first government [indiscernible] are the 2 Environment Canada or the 3 government agencies that have started taking that data and have been taking it for years. And that's opened up all the other met agencies around the world, whether it's in Australia, whether it's in China, whether it's in Germany, the parts of South East Asia, all of those net agencies are now paying attention to what FLYHT is able to do and how we're able to produce the best ABOs with relative [indiscernible].

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#52

Just another question on the edge STCs -- if when you get the STCs, would you expect to have clients to sign immediately struck relatively immediately? Or would these clients have to then go out and test the product first before they commit themselves to the edge device.

Kent Jacobs

executive
#53

Well, from the perspective of testing the product in their aircraft, if the STC is available, they know the airlines have absolute confidence in the product function working the way that it would be intended to. That is the idea -- part of the idea behind having to obtain the STC's. So that's what makes that second airline customer that much easier to get than the first one we have to go through the process of doing all the testing with FLYHT and doing certification. We expect those sales to come much quicker once we have the STCs in place. It's -- yes, that's where we expect it to be much quicker and much easier. That's why we're targeting 20 from the 30.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#54

And then my final question, any update on China and the Chinese domestically produced aircraft? No, yes. So the 2 aircraft, the ARJ21 and the C919 aircraft, we're actively installing on the ARJ21 through long-time customer, China Express. We're continuing as they expand their fleet where we're only on every ARJ that they bring in. The C919 is still going through some development. It's a slightly delayed program, probably not a surprise. But as that aircraft continues to be developed and go through the certification process right there ready to be installed on it. It's a little out of our control right now as we wait for them to complete that product in the year.

Operator

operator
#55

The next question comes from Kris Tuttle from IPO Candy.

Kris Tuttle

analyst
#56

I was just curious now that you're growing very rapidly, and you did have this jump in receivables, it sounds like it's coming down. But it just prompted my question. Do you guys have -- do you feel like you're set up with enough liquidity for your working capital needs as we go through what will be a bigger year for you 2023 and beyond?

Alana Forbes

executive
#57

We do. We generated cash in Q4. Some of those receivables have been collected to the first part of 2023. We've had healthy cash generation in the first quarter. We've really done a lot of work throughout the pandemic and particularly lately, even into Q1 in adjusting our cost base just to make sure that we can sustain ourselves with the cash balances and receivable balances that we do have coming in. We're pretty comfortable. We're definitely keeping our eye on it. I'm always concerned about cash, of course, but we're doing well. We don't anticipate a working capital need.

Operator

operator
#58

The next question comes from Marc Berger from MKB Associates.

Marc Berger

analyst
#59

To expand on the question that Bruce had with regard to China and the airlines there. Is the 919, the airline that has about 1,200 orders in backlog?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#60

I don't know for sure. I don't believe that it has 12 -- did you say 1,200?

Marc Berger

analyst
#61

Yes.

Kent Jacobs

executive
#62

But the numbers that we get out of -- you can imagine that there's a little bit secret that we don't always get. FLYHT is not privy to that information of the direct number of orders. It's going to be a very successful aircraft. The Chinese government will make sure of that, and it will be sold a lot in China and that part of the world.

Marc Berger

analyst
#63

And will we be on each one of those? Is that a done deal?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#64

That is not a done deal. FLYHT is working with [indiscernible]. We are working on the process to be the Satcom or a Satcom provider for them. But no, there is no formal decision there.

Marc Berger

analyst
#65

And here in Asia, how is the business starting to ramp up there?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#66

Here in Asia is continuing to accelerate out of the pandemic. We had a lot of our product that was parked and we're not generating revenue, we're seeing those numbers tick up.

Alana Forbes

executive
#67

They were down to about 6% at the low. And right now, they're up back to about 50% operational of the aircraft that are installed with our product. So we're seeing some really good recovery within Asia.

Marc Berger

analyst
#68

So that should show up in the first quarter of '23.

Alana Forbes

executive
#69

Marc, we don't give guidance.

Marc Berger

analyst
#70

Also, with regard to the 5G and all these telecom companies switching to it, what kind of timetable do you expect that airlines are going to have to make that switch to a 5G product one way or another?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#71

We see the airlines in that mode right now. So the airlines -- when they make the decision to swap in products, like we believe that they're going to be doing. They don't make that decision and then 2 weeks later, start swapping it out on their aircraft. This is a -- it's a fairly lengthy exercise. The airlines are looking 1, 3 years out, they have to coordinate their fleet in through maintenance opportunities to get to swap product out. And I'll temper that just a tiny bit. The quick replacement of the existing 2G, 3G product that we anticipate doing that large deductible market is a much, much easier swap. It's not a full [ eculation ], we would be using provisions that were already on the aircraft. But it's -- Yes, it will be happening. The airlines are making the decisions now and we're seeing that in the discussions that we're having with them. It's active with many airlines and our sales team right now.

Marc Berger

analyst
#72

So if there are - what? 20,000, 25,000 opportunities out there, it would mean, what, over a 3-year, 4-year period of time that they have to swap that out.

Kent Jacobs

executive
#73

Yes. That's correct. Because as the networks go down around the world, the older value networks go down around the world and their lines to not to replace with the -- to keep going with a wireless QAR functionality, when 5G is the only option, they need to be looking to a product like the one like the edge, that's like that. And we expect that -- well, those towers are being retired now around the world. It's happening at different rates around the planet, and it's not going to go back. So it's just a matter of time before the 5G is the dominant technology for cellular providers around the world.

Marc Berger

analyst
#74

And would you be able to meet that demand based on what we have in place infrastructure already?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#75

It's something that we consider. And the answer is yes. We're making sure that, that is a capability that we have as we move forward. Yes. Absolutely. We're planning for that.

Operator

operator
#76

The next question comes from George Melas from MKH Management.

George Melas

analyst
#77

Congratulations on a great year. I have a follow-up regarding the question on the edge. You're providing a 5G sort of replacement upgrade to an existing product, primarily the Teledyne product. Are they currently -- so from the point of view of the airline, what are the options that they have now? I mean the edge is not available right now. What are the opportunities -- what are the options they have now and maybe what are the options that they will have a year or 2 from now?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#78

Well, the options they have now is to ride out whatever product they have on the aircraft right now and as long as they can. So as long as there are capable towers that can handle things like the Teledyne product, they'll continue to work. But some of those Teledyne products are so old that they're going back to 2G, 3G technology. So an airline would need to make a decision and to plan for the retirement of those networks and the fact that their avionics in that regard would not work after those powers are down, after those networks are down. They always have the opportunity to manually retrieve the data. We know that this is not going to happen. Now that airlines are not going to go backwards. But if we're talking about all the options that they have now, that is something that they could consider. Looking out 1, 2, 3 years, airlines will they have the -- we'll definitely have the option of the edge. Right now, we still don't see any competition in the space. We don't know of anything that's coming along and being developed in the 5G state the way that we are. So I'm going to say that taking into account the development cycle, how well it takes to bring a product through development through testing to get the FTC done. The good news is that other companies would have to go through the same process that we are. I can imagine that for the next few years, we are the product. We're the auction.

George Melas

analyst
#79

If it means that if the Teledyne sort of try to upgrade from 2G and 3G to 5G, do they have to go to the same STC certification process that you do now given that it's their product?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#80

I don't know for sure because I don't know that the inner working of the Teledyne product. I do know that the Teledyne product -- I believe the Teledyne product is 20 years old. It's very old. And I don't believe that the -- I think it would be a big challenge for them. And I don't know that it's possible to incorporate a 5G radio into that platform into the existing Teledyne product. They were able to do it with the LTE. They were able to upgrade that product with the LTE radio. I don't think it's an option for the 5G.

George Melas

analyst
#81

So it means that right now, the airlines really they want to upgrade their products. I mean until we get the STCs, they have low options, right?

Kent Jacobs

executive
#82

George, there is no product out there that is -- we don't see any competition. We don't -- in a 5G that's correct. We don't be a 5G-enabled wireless QAR. When we talk to airlines, we're not compared to other products out there. We're the one. So yes, that is correct.

George Melas

analyst
#83

And then just a question on the licensing. You expect that to grow -- I mean, as the A320 family keeps growing and production still keeps increasing. Do you see 2020 -- but I guess it's not terribly smooth, right? You have big orders that come from time to time. And it seems like Airbus is actually sort of inventorying some units just to facilitate their supply chain. Would that be -- is that how you would see that?

Alana Forbes

executive
#84

Yes, that's accurate. And we expect our future licensing revenues to be mainly tied to the production line at Airbus of the A220, A320 339.

Kent Jacobs

executive
#85

And overall, that just keeps growing. Yes.

Alana Forbes

executive
#86

They're certainly doing well.

Operator

operator
#87

This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Kent Jacobs for any closing remarks.

Kent Jacobs

executive
#88

Thank you, [indiscernible]. Thank you, everyone, for joining us on this call. 2022 was a great year for FLYHT. It was a tough year. It was a tough year for the company in that regard and for me. But it was a very successful year in the end, and it set us up very well for 2023. We look forward to keeping you updated on our progress. We appreciate your time and interest this morning, and we appreciate you continuing to follow the light. Thank you for your time.

Operator

operator
#89

This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day.

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