Ford Motor Company (F) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

November 10, 2020

New York Stock Exchange US Consumer Discretionary Automobiles conference_presentation 46 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#1

Hello, everybody, and thank you for joining us for this session with Ford Motor Company as part of Deutsche Bank's Auto Tech Conference. My name is Emmanuel Rosner, and I'm the senior U.S. autos analyst at Deutsche Bank. I'm very pleased to host Ford's Executive Director of Enterprise Connectivity, Stuart Taylor; and Director of Investor Relations, Jeff Zelenick, for a discussion with us this morning. The format of this session will be a short presentation by Stuart, followed by a fireside chat around some of my prepared topics as well as questions from all of you on the call. To submit a question, please type it in the box on the left side of the webcast window. Only I will see your question, and I will ask it on this call without mentioning your name or affiliation. I highly encourage you to do so and to get involved in this discussion. So with that, Stuart, thanks for being with us, and over to you.

Stuart Taylor

executive
#2

Thanks, Emmanuel. So good morning. My name is Stuart Taylor. And today, I'm going to talk to you about the role that connectivity plays at Ford and our plans to leverage the technologies that we have for maximum benefit for our customers. So I'm going to give you some insights into how we think about it in the context of our business ambitions, and I'm also going to talk to you about how we're leveraging the platforms that we're designing and our scale to move faster and to expand our offerings in all the areas of our business. But firstly, I wanted to show you this slide because this summarizes what we communicated back on October 1 when Jim Farley took over as CEO. And this is really what we're focused on as an organization. The allocation of capital to enhance our strongest businesses and our vehicle franchises is really at the core of turning around our automotive operations and then, of course, expanding our commercial vehicle businesses. And for us, we think about connectivity as being foundational to this plan, and it's supporting both the strengthening of our base, the core strengths that we have, whilst expanding our reach and enabling new areas of growth for us such as new propulsion choices and new businesses. Connectivity, really, as we see it, is the enabler for a lot of those growth levers. So I'm going to touch on those on the next few slides and go through them. So I wanted to show you this slide because this is really important in framing how we view connectivity. These are really the 4 pillars of business that we view connectivity through, and this framework informs our choices. We use our connected vehicle technology as a common platform that supports these 4 pillars. And this enables us to define, to design and to build products and services as well as applications that can work or serve a wide variety of customers, spanning from our commercial vehicles right the way through to our retail businesses. And many of the same platform capabilities can be tailored then to serve the purpose we need in any one of these pillars, including how we generate internal value or third-party enablement. So next slide, Jeff. As you think about how important these 4 pillars are to our plan and the breadth and depth of our vehicle lines, along with our diverse global markets that we serve, the importance of connecting all of our vehicles really comes into sharp focus. So this year, 100% of our Ford vehicles in North America are now connected. And by the end of this year, 90% of all of our new vehicles will be globally connected. So this is a really important milestone for us as a company. So focusing now on the customer. Our customer really is at the center of everything we work on, particularly in connectivity, as we think about how we can derive customer value as the primary input. And we use this circle as an explanation to many of the team. So on the inside of this circle, you can see how we frame value for our customers. And these are very traditional measures that you'll have heard us talk about before, but very relevant now right up to the minute in technology terms: so providing choices and optionality for our customers; creating experiences that are relevant to the retail and the commercial customer; driving engagement beyond the initial point-of-sale throughout the life cycle of the ownership experience; and then importantly, how can we gain insights from that to design better experiences and better vehicles. And then the Ford value is returned both directly as direct revenue through subscriptions or activations, the traditional way and, more importantly, an area of focus indirectly through loyalty and, quite frankly, better performing products, better performing vehicles. Now all of this is built on our tech stack, and this is our Ford tech stack, next slide, please, Jeff, that enables us to focus our resources and efforts where it matters most to our customers. All of our experiences, be they retail, commercial, internal or third-party, are built on this platform. And from now through to 2024, we are investing a significant amount of money in this tech stack to support our connected vehicle ambitions. And this is how it all shows up to our customers. So this is the new Mach-E. I think most of you will be familiar with this. It's a great example of this strategy starting to come through in our products that are launching right now. And it's all around building platform capability into every vehicle, design experiences that matter most to our customers and then engage our customers through this life cycle, and particularly now increasingly relevant, providing over-the-air updates, keeping those vehicles fresh, up-to-date and increasingly getting better over time. The connectivity platform also enables us to reframe the approach for our commercial customers, providing a suite of software services for our small, medium and large commercial business customers. Because of the loyalty of our commercial customers, really built on the strength of our vehicles, we are uniquely placed to work directly with them to derive innovative products and services that enable them to drive efficiency in their operations. Next slide, Jeff. I want to give you a bit more of an explanation of what that looks like. So this is the symbiotic relationship with our commercial customers in more detail. We're very proud of the relationship we have with our commercial customers. So the importance of tailoring new services, new capability to serve what is a very diverse set of customers that can add substantial value to those businesses, and to do that, you have to know what's important to those businesses, those diverse groups. So it can be as important as keeping uptime as the highest priority, the total cost of ownership or a complex fleet management tool. And internally, the value of [ data ] is also not underestimated. We're already seeing the value this can bring to all areas of our business. So connectivity is enabling new ways of deriving internal value, serving manufacturing teams, serving marketing, serving our Ford Customer Service Division and dealers with products and capabilities that can drive efficiencies in those businesses. And these teams are now finding new muscles based on informed and curated data from us that allows them to make step function improvements in both their financial health and their business but also in how they engage their customers going forward. And so the internal value should not be underestimated either. And then bringing that back to our retail customer with the power of choice through new subscription services and potentially new revenue streams that are derived from that. And just in case you think I'm kind of talking about the distant future, it's not. This capability is here and now, and you'll see it in all of our upcoming launches, which are really starting with these 3 iconic vehicle lines launching right now. So new vehicle connected capability such as over-the-air updates, keeping vehicles at the forefront of technology while providing uniquely tailored experiences and capabilities that serve a broad spectrum of customers. So in this example, from connected off-road navigation for Bronco being one example, a cloud-based smart distance-to-empty for our Mach-E customers to new connected towing capabilities for F1 customers. That's just the start of this, and there's a lot more to come very shortly with the follow-on launches. Now the good news from Ford's perspective is all of this is built on a platform, and that means that with our scale and our diversity, we can roll this out at scale very quickly across all new vehicles as we launch them in the coming years. So from my perspective and Ford's perspective, it's truly an exciting time to be able to deliver this content and really usher in a new era of capability, a new era of experiences and start to determine and derive real value for our customers and for Ford. So thank you very much. That was a very brief overview of how Ford is thinking about connectivity. I'll pause here, and Emmanuel, perhaps we'll open for a Q&A at this point.

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#3

Yes, absolutely. Thanks a lot for this presentation, Stuart. So maybe let's get right to it. So this focus on connectivity seems to have been a key area for Jim Farley even before he took over as CEO. What would you say is unique about Ford's approach to connectivity?

Stuart Taylor

executive
#4

Yes, Emmanuel, I think it's a good question. So we've really focused on those 4 pillars that I talked about in the earlier slide, those 4 pillars being our strength in commercial vehicles; our diversity of our retail vehicles; and then two which perhaps are nontraditional from a sense of what you would see from other automakers, this idea about internal value creation, how we serve the business internally, and then third-party enablement, which is really how we use the data to design better card and to work with third parties. All of this is centered around that slide which I showed you around making the ownership experience better. It's not just being a shop-by experience, it being a life-cycle experience that you will have with Ford. And I think what this will mean to us is building commercial applications or retail applications off of this common platform that can serve a multitude of different customers. That is a competitive advantage because of the strength we have in those areas in specific markets with specific customers. And then, of course, the other advantage that we have is, once you've built a common platform is that you can scale that very quickly across all the vehicle lines. So you can deploy to all markets globally. You've seen that in how quickly we've managed to connect the whole fleet. And so that really allows us to serve as many customers as we possibly can very, very quickly. And that really is an approach that Jim has talked strongly about in the past, and we're really starting to see it come to life with these new launches.

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#5

That makes sense. So you were mentioning, I think, 100% connectivity in the U.S. as of now by the end of the year, 90% globally. Do these numbers include both retail and fleet and commercial customers? Is it across the entire customer base?

Stuart Taylor

executive
#6

Yes, that's correct. It is. It's across the entire customer base. So we've been building the tech stack that I showed you for a number of years really, and really building to this point, but it's really starting to explode now. And then what we're doing is using the data analytics capability across our retail and commercial customers to turn -- in turn, turn those vehicles into better products. It really is -- this feels like a jumping-off point, in all honesty, Emmanuel, because we are at the point where we now have the entire fleet connected, and we can provide commercial and retail capability everywhere that we serve vehicles. So it's a really exciting time to be here.

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#7

So one point I wanted to come back to, can you elaborate on the connectivity's ability to increase your engineering efficiency over the next few years? It feels like this is, in terms of dollars and cents and sort of impact on the P&L, this seems to be probably the largest piece. Am I right?

Stuart Taylor

executive
#8

Yes. It's certainly the most immediate efficiency that we can get. The data from connected vehicles is already telling us, in significant detail, the kind of features our customers use, what they really value in their vehicles. And that allows us to look for design efficiency. So we can optimize designs for a specific market or for a specific customer. And of course, we can deprecate features that they really don't use or don't value. And so what we're doing is really sharpening the pencil on the work that we do as engineering to make sure that we're really focused on what the customer wants. I'll just give you one good example, Emmanuel, because this one's a -- was a really good insight from the data that we're using to drive these efficiencies. We have a proximity sensor in every single door to remotely unlock the doors. When you look at our F-150 customer, that feature is used on the rear doors almost never. There's -- because there's very few people traveling in the rear of an F-150, and if it is they do, it's a rare occurrence. But that feature was really not valued by our F-150 customers. And so we were able to deprecate that feature off of the rear doors. It didn't really reduce the capability of the vehicle at all by any stretch, but it was a material opportunity and no negative customer impact at all. So a really kind of positive way of finding those efficiencies. I think there's another point around the internal value of this that we don't talk about too often, but it's really important, the idea that because of this data that we can act and provide insight a lot earlier in the customer ownership experience. So if we do detect a problem with an early failure of parts or an issue because of a calibration or a fuel type or -- there's a whole gamut of data that we're getting. We can now act much earlier. And so before that even becomes a problem for our customer, we can get on to the game and start to address it. And I think having that data insight early and having all of those early indicators allows us to eliminate problems before they really become problems. And so you'll see that in the improvement in our quality numbers and the cost that we spend in quality.

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#9

Right. So one question that came from the audience, which was literally my next question, so perfect timing. Will Ford leverage partnerships or your alliances to create this connectivity plan? I was going to ask specifically about your partnership with Volkswagen, but I guess the broader question is even more interesting.

Stuart Taylor

executive
#10

Sure. So let me touch the Volkswagen question because that one does actually come up a lot, Emmanuel. We're continually looking for any opportunity where we can collaborate with VW. That partnership is strategic, and it's important for us, and that alliance doesn't extend into all the areas of our business. So while I can't talk to you about specifics of exactly what we're working on, let it be known here that, that is important, and we're exploring every avenue for further and deeper collaboration with Volkswagen. On the broader sense of partnerships, I think you're probably aware, we have a number of very long-standing partnerships, particularly in the electronics space and software space. And we're very pleased with those partnerships. We're going to continue to look for extending those partnerships, of course, because they've served us very well. We've accelerated our deployment of content like you're looking at now through those partnerships and through those relationships. And we'll be looking for new ones. As the business evolves, new partners emerge from within the market that we will look to work with. We do value these long-term arrangements that we have that have really contributed to our growth and our success so far. And we'll evaluate every new business opportunity based on a partnership or an in-house type activity as it arises.

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#11

That makes sense. One more, if you don't mind, from the audience. So on your F-150 slides, I think the first bullet said post-launch OTA capability. Can you maybe elaborate on that? What exactly are you enabling as part of the new F-150?

Stuart Taylor

executive
#12

Sure. So I'm not actually going to be able to tell you right now exactly the content of what's going into that first OTA release. I think we've given you some pub talked publicly about some of the information. So we're planning a series of OTA updates to add features, to add capability over the course of the life cycle of the vehicle. And if you imagine that at the scale that we're talking about for F-150, it's substantial. And the complexity, obviously, is substantial. But this allows us to really keep those vehicles up-to-date all the time for our customers. The difference with our OTA solution is that it really is a full, what we call, multi module. So pretty much every device in the vehicle can be updated, most of it behind the scenes. So without having -- with only having minimal impact to the customer, we can do it. For example, when the vehicle is shut off at night, we can do the update in the background and shut the vehicle back down again. That capability and our ability to reach every device in the vehicle allows us to really start to build out features, content and capability over time. The first one which we've really talked about is adding some of that capability, some advanced driver assistance capability in our first release, which is part of the plan that we've shared already publicly. That's a fairly substantial active drive-assist update post launch that we're all very excited about. I've actually driven it myself, Emmanuel, and it's a whole lot of fun. So I'm looking forward to being able to get that out to the market as soon as we can in that first over-the-air launch.

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#13

Got it. But just to clarify, though, when you're saying post-launch capability, the OTA capability is there from the launch. It's -- you're saying that?

Stuart Taylor

executive
#14

Exactly.

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#15

Or -- okay. So the OTA capability is there from the launch?

Stuart Taylor

executive
#16

Yes. So exactly. So from launch onwards for the life cycle of the vehicle, we will be scheduling regular OTA updates for all of the vehicle fleet, not just for F-150, for all new vehicle lines will be receiving OTA updates on a regular basis from this point forward. And that will become a very important part of our business as we offer new capabilities and new features to our customers, all part of the vehicle life cycle.

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#17

And the list of things that are updatable, that's already defined at launch? Or is that something that could change post launch as well?

Stuart Taylor

executive
#18

So this is part of our new agile thinking within Ford. It really is -- Jim Farley has really encouraged us to think on a more dynamic basis. So we'll have a number of things which are set and substantial, but we'll think of these are the right things to deliver at this right time, and then we'll be adding to that over time. So as market changes, customer preferences move to in a different direction, this will allow us to react to those on a much faster basis. So we'll be filling up, if you like, those OTA updates as we travel towards the release date. You've seen this very similar. If you think about the PC industry, you think about the mobile phone industry, this is really the next iteration, but applied from an automotive perspective, so this continuous update, continuous addition, continuous capability. And to do that, we've built excess capability into the vehicles so that we know that they're going to grow over time, and we want to make sure that we have the capacity to be able to offer new capabilities, new experiences to our customers over that life cycle. That's a fairly substantial lifetime of usage.

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#19

Yes. So the questions keep coming in. So that's a good sign. So let me just jump back to the rollout of the ADAS and the DMS features that you mentioned. What -- can you tell us what the next important ADAS feature is for Ford? What is the timetable for rolling out driver monitoring across the fleet?

Stuart Taylor

executive
#20

I can't talk to you about very specifics of exactly what's going on. I can mention to you around -- a little bit around what we're adding from an advanced driver assistance, which I think you've already seen publicly. The rest of the content is really for later communication as we refine it over the next couple of months. So what you'll see is a sequence of updates as we show you and reveal to you fully what's in those releases. And as we go through our final validation, obviously, we want to make sure that everything is rock solid as we take it to launch. But the advanced driver assist one, which is really this item, which is the second bullet point on the screen that you can see now, is a substantial upgrade for automated driving.

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#21

Okay. And then specifically on the driver monitoring, how important is it? How much fuel is it for the Euro NCAP mandates? Is it something that you need to roll out across your fleet? Is that something that could be -- become important in the U.S. as well?

Stuart Taylor

executive
#22

Yes. To that, I'd have to defer to the driver assistance specialists. So what we provide within my group is the capability to do that update. So the legal bounds and the actual technical implementation is left to the specialist team. So I wouldn't want to comment on their areas of expertise. But what we are enabling for them is this ability to build on that feature set very rapidly by updating multiple devices within the vehicle simultaneously, and that's -- so that allows them to move at scale very quickly, particularly in that exciting area. That area is moving very, very quickly from a technology perspective, and so they'll build on that over the coming releases.

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#23

Okay. Great. So I guess, let's switch over to the user experience. Will everyone receive the same level of connectivity? Or will customers have a choice?

Stuart Taylor

executive
#24

Yes, that's a good question. I think you saw in my earlier slide, we always talk in Ford about the democratization of technology and then the power of choice, so the idea being that we scale technologies so that they're available to everyone buying a Ford. And it's been something that's been really a strong suit for us as a company over the years as we've been building technology stories. And so that democratization, it really shows up here again within the products we're launching right now. As we go into the future, the power of choice is also going to become important as we design new capabilities, enabling people to make decisions on whether they want a specific feature. Navigation is always a good example that we use when we're talking like this. Not everyone wants navigation, so we're going to provide lots of optionality around how you sign up for a navigation service. The beauty of the navigation, and I'm glad Jeff's brought up the Mach-E because that screen is absolutely beautiful and fantastic to use for navigation, by the way. It's incredible to have that much screen space in a connected navigation system. So when you've got navigation like this with real-time traffic, with real-time parking, with weather, it becomes almost a must-have for a number of our customers, particularly on something like a Mach-E. Whereas if then you look at that same feature capability and you apply it to a Ranger or to an F-150 or a Bronco, maybe those features aren't quite so important to them. And so we'll give them optionality on opt-in to content like that. And what you'll see over time is we'll provide increasing levels of choice for our customers so that they can decide whether they want the capability or they don't, and I think that's really important. The ability to tailor the car to the customer's preferences gives them more choice in how they want to configure. And then, of course, post sale, a change of mind will be -- we can also enable activation. So if somebody says, "Well, actually, I've seen that navigation, I now think I want it," we can enable that through a service like a subscription service, for example, and that will become a key part of our business going forward.

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#25

Understood. Wanted to zoom in on Ford Commercial Solutions. Can you go back over how do you provide value for customers there? How is the business model different through connectivity?

Stuart Taylor

executive
#26

Yes. That's a really good question. There's -- for our commercial customers, it's a very different model. Commercial customers, and we're incredibly proud of our market strength on the commercial vehicles and really understanding our commercial vehicle customers really well. And so really, there's a couple of things which are really important to our commercial customers. It's really around uptime. They believe that and strongly believe that, obviously, the ability for the vehicle to be operating at all times is of significant importance. And then safety is the other element. And so what we're doing is we're tailoring a set of features and capabilities around the small, the medium and the large fleet customer, and they're slightly different in each area. And we'll build that suite of capabilities out using the connected vehicle. So I want to kind of give you a couple of examples of that. For example, today, we already operate a homegrown management software or third-party software for their fleet. So for the large fleet customers, what we've done is we've enabled them to integrate that into our data services product. So our data services product has OEM grade data to support an existing application that's a third-party application. So our large fleet customers have better quality data from Ford but integrated into a fleet solution that might be a multi-make fleet solution. And that's a great example of us integrating and understanding their business better. For a small or a medium, it may be a very specific tool set that they need or a very specific capability like driver state monitoring or driver monitoring for productivity. Or for example, for fuel efficiency, we have a capability to monitor excess idle time, for example. And excess idle time can be a driver coaching feature, where we allow the fleet manager, if it's a small or medium large fleet manager, to work directly with that driver to gain fuel efficiency in their operations. So really, it's about efficiency, safety and uptime for our fleet providers. The good news on that, though, Emmanuel, is this is not bespoke products, if you like. We're building all of this on this platform. And so the decision we took a few years ago to build this out as a baseline capability that is foundational to that plan that I talked about at the front with that Jim talked about, this is really the start of that. You're starting to see us building those differentiated experiences on top of this stack. And you're going to see this accelerate away. Now we're so pleased to have the foundation in place that we can really start to offer those capabilities, allowing us to be really diverse in the customer basing and just as diverse as our customers are.

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#27

I have another question from a webcast participant. Ford has talked about its transportation mobility cloud for future revenue streams. Does that play into the connected vehicle strategy? And if so, how?

Stuart Taylor

executive
#28

Sure. Yes, so we haven't talked for a while about the transport mobility cloud. We built this -- effectively, this abstraction layer, which has proved incredibly valuable to us. And so autonomic are an important part of our business with the transport mobility cloud, although we heavily use that platform to provide connected vehicle data back to Ford and to serve all of our vehicles. It's been a key strategic decision. It's been very successful in terms of our migration to using that platform. And I think we've talked publicly before about as connected vehicles accelerate across the industry, making that platform available for other OEMs to use securely, as it's a very capable and very able tool in our chain, basically. So yes, our plans haven't changed around the transport mobility cloud and its future. It's critical to the success of our connected vehicles.

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#29

Okay. And then one more. So there are third-party telematics companies that offer some of the products and services to fleet operators today. Does Ford aim to displace those players? Do you work with them? I guess, what's the relationship here?

Stuart Taylor

executive
#30

Yes, that's a good -- that's a very good question, and I think a well-informed question. These guys are obviously well-established, long-time players and really support multi-make fleets that are broader than just Ford Motor Company. And so our plan will be to work with those telematics providers where appropriate. They serve -- typically serve the larger fleets very well indeed, and we've got a good relationship with a number of them. And when we talk about partnerships, we have a number of relationships that are critical to that. What they do benefit from is things like OEM grade data. So we can offboard much more detailed data to those to help them make better business decisions as well. And so we'll continue that relationship on. I think it's productive on both sides. It serves Ford very well. It serves our multi-make fleet very well. And also, it's a good data services product that works very well for us. The question about displacement, I think we realize that they're very established players, and we're not going head-to-head to compete with those guys. What we are trying to offer here is differentiated products that really serve the Ford customer base but could serve more broadly if required.

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#31

Okay. Maybe focusing on infotainment. What are your plans for sourcing infotainment systems in the Ford vehicles? And how does connectivity support those plans?

Stuart Taylor

executive
#32

Yes. So our infotainment platform, I think we're very proud of SYNC and our SYNC brands. I think it's 13 years old this year, which is fantastic. It's been through several iterations. The latest iteration you're seeing just turn up actually in the Mach-E and in the new F-150 and the Bronco. So that is our fourth generation of that product, really pleased with the way that's come out. Actually, many of you don't know this, but SYNC has been a connected product since generation 3 of SYNC. and in fact, we've been providing Wi-Fi updates to SYNC. We've just done 4 this year, in fact, to SYNC for a number of years, and it's been a very successful product for us. SYNC 4, our latest iteration, our most powerful processor or our most capable SYNC unit ever, just starting to roll out across the fleet. And as always, with our SYNC brand, it will go to every corner of the world on every Ford vehicle out there, and it's been, both from a customer perception, a customer quality and satisfaction perspective, a really strong performer for us. So very proud of our SYNC brand. Future SYNC brand, obviously, we're going to continue to look at partnerships and investigate where that's appropriate. We'll continue to look for the latest and greatest next generation in-vehicle, particularly around the digital experience. And what you'll see from us is, and you're starting to see this in the launch now, is how we then connect that to the app experience and to the capabilities. And you'll see some of that turn up, for example, like the Pro Power Onboard on the F-150 or the smart distance to [ MT ] on the Mach-E, great examples of connected experiences that use the SYNC interface that also use the FordPass app as part of that whole ecosystem. And so we're going to continue to iterate on that. In terms of future sourcing, obviously, I'm not going to talk to you about that, but just be known that we're always iterating on SYNC. It's a really important product for us and really defines the in-vehicle experience for our truck customers, for our commercial customers and for our car customers.

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#33

Okay. So Ford, I think is now spending $1 billion a year on the vehicle connectivity. How would you summarize the path to monetization and a return on investment? I think you spoke about some engineering improvement, customer materials in the near term. Anything sort of beyond that? And how do we think about a return on that investment?

Stuart Taylor

executive
#34

Yes. $1 billion a year is a lot of money, Emmanuel. And there's no doubt about it, and we're monitoring that very closely. Obviously, we think about connectivity value much more broadly, and I explained a bit of that in terms of how we see these 4 pillars and how it returns that. We do, of course, have a view on how it's going to return tangible direct revenue, monetary benefits to really return on that investment. But also we look at it through the lens of value, those less tangible benefits that come with data and system capability and really understanding our customers better and providing a better product for our customers. We, of course, plan for the connectivity business to be profitable, of course. I mean it has to be as part of this plan, and it will be. But the derivation of value from loyalty, from residual values, from the internal knowledge base that we build up through the data partnership, really, the ability to engage with our dealers more deeply, the ability to cross-sell with data products, it really has a longer term, a much deeper impact on -- both on the brands, on both Ford and Lincoln brand, but on our ability to support that with real tangible outcomes. I think the most immediate return on the investment really will be those internal benefits that I talked about. So through warranty, through quality, through data insights, through feature usage data, and then how we serve those other businesses within Ford Motor Company with better insights, and we're already seeing that. That's really starting to come back as -- from the intangible to the tangible. And then I think as you see, with the things that we're starting to build in terms of customer experiences and relationships, you'll start to see nontraditional automotive revenue streams through subscriptions, activations. Those things will grow over time, pretty much as the industry is growing. You're seeing the elsewhere in the industry already. We'll be in the same place, providing that power of choice for our customers and enabling them to make decisions on what they want in the vehicle and opening perhaps new revenue streams for us.

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#35

Great. Maybe let's switch over to mobility and autonomous vehicles. Obviously, this is a big part of Ford's plan for the future. How do connected services support your autonomous vehicle deployment plans?

Stuart Taylor

executive
#36

Yes. So I've kind of talked to you, Emmanuel, about the power of platform, and it's no different from our AV business. They will also use much of the platform work that we're designing and defining and delivering here in connectivity. So really, that is the power of building platforms, that they can have relevance from our entry-level truck right the way through to our fully self-driving vehicle that we're working on for the future. We do work very, very closely with the AV team today to support their progress. They have some very specific requirements and some very complex requirements. And there are obviously bigger engineering problems to solve than just connectivity in the AV space, which they're tackling head on. But the importance of connectivity, and in fact, in the AV space, the importance of data, is paramount. And so what we're doing is providing them with elements, uniquely tuned elements of our platform, to help them progress along their AV path and working closely with them as a team.

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#37

Okay. And just not sure if vehicle to vehicle, vehicle to infrastructure, if that's part of connectivity. I guess to a large extent, it probably is. So what are you doing in that field? And then to achieve these higher levels of autonomy, do you expect that vehicles will all need to be connected on a V2X basis?

Stuart Taylor

executive
#38

Yes. So we're really, really excited about this space, Emmanuel, right? It does come into the connectivity domain, which is great. So we're already working on cellular V2X solutions and looking at ways we can implement that at scale. We've been very public with our support of the adoption of cellular V2X. We can see the tangible benefits in society. From a safety perspective, we can also see it from the ability to offer services and capabilities. So a huge growth area that you'll start to see roll out fairly shortly. We're not going to share -- I'm not going to share any technical details about specifically what we're working on. Yes, we do see it as absolutely critical for the future of the industry. The ability for the vehicle to talk to other vehicles and to talk to infrastructure, it's just going to enable a whole new bunch of experiences which will be really valued by our customers. And so let -- to let you know here, perhaps it's right in our line, right in our line of sight, and I'm really pleased that we're pushing forward with the cellular V2X capability.

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#39

Just maybe one more on ADAS from a participant. When you look at your plans and the services you're planning to offer, is there a Level 3 autonomy product coming out that you would sell as an option, something similar to maybe Tesla's full self-driving option? And any details you can give us on this, either a time line or cost? Or is it a subscription? How do you monetize this?

Stuart Taylor

executive
#40

I wish I could answer that one, but unfortunately, I'm not able to give you that answer today on Level 3. Yes, there's nothing further to be communicated in this session with you, unfortunately.

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#41

Not on this one. Okay. Let's talk maybe about your initiatives about smart cities.

Stuart Taylor

executive
#42

Sure. Yes. I mean, I think you know that we're working very actively with a number of cities and state departments and [indiscernible] of transportation. And we've got a number of initiatives that are going on aligned around our smart -- our vision for smart vehicles in a smart world. And so you'll start to see some of that with the new F-150 that we're rolling out now and the Mach-E. It's important to note that smart city infrastructure is really what we need to push so that we can connect the vehicles to those smart city infrastructures. So taking a lead in cellular V2X technology that we just talked about is really important so that we can deploy that cellular V2X technology at scale. And then we can work on things like emergency vehicle preemption, that idea that we can protect first responders, we can facilitate faster time to events. And then we're engaged with a number of other areas. The Texas Connected Freight Corridor, I think you may have heard of, which is one of our cellular V2X initiatives that's going on right now. And then, of course, I think we're about to announce the E-Transits. We're also -- we've also announced publicly the electric F-150. And so we're looking at how do we build out EV charging infrastructure to -- as we continually electrify our fleet and how does connectivity support that or cellular V2X support that. And So We've got a number of initiatives around smart cities around charging, which will start to come to life. The -- and if you then you extend that view a little bit further out in the field, autonomous vehicles, and then where we're testing with autonomous vehicles and the importance of smart cities, we're testing in Austin at the moment. We're testing in Miami and in Washington, D.C. with our autonomous work. Connectivity plays into all of that as we build these connected corridors for those vehicles to run in. And then there's other aspects to our business, which really are mobility parts of our business where you can start to see this coming together, so particularly around micro mobility, connecting that into this ecosystem that aligns with our vehicle connectivity, our smart cities and now micromobility. So Spin and others, you'll start to see how essential it is to have this kind of connected ecosystem going on. All of those are initiatives that are really in the learning phase as we're going through this. You're starting to see it emerge as we build the technologies that we're launching now on F-150, Mach-E and Bronco. And then what we're doing with those experiments is really gaining insights so that we can build better products. And so we're working with each of those transport departments with the engineers in our group and other innovation -- incubation areas to determine how extensible is this. But it all comes back to that idea of this, you build a connectivity platform, you use that data to inform, and then you can make really good choices about how you -- where you see the business and where you invest. And that's really what all this is about, particularly when I talk about those intangible benefits.

Emmanuel Rosner

analyst
#43

That makes a lot of sense. So I think we're fresh out of time. So I wanted to thank you so much, Stuart, Jeff, for joining us, giving us these insights for a good discussion. I want to thank everybody for participating so actively, probably a record number of questions for so early in the morning. So we'll take them, and thank you for your engagement. For everyone who's on the webcast, next up, we have the CTO of Continental. And again, Stuart and Jeff, thank you so much for being with us.

Stuart Taylor

executive
#44

Thanks very much, Emmanuel.

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